Guild Wars 2

No more culling. Holy kitten.

Zynthetic.2954:

Yeah, having PiNK on the map tends to cause a zergball. We’ll often have to tell the militia to go support another commander, because otherwise they’ll have like 10 people on a map with 40 man enemy zergs. If you watch a lot of our videos taken outside of reset, the group comp is often about 50% PiNK, 25% other WvW guilds and 25% militia.

We’re trying the same, mostly because having everyone in a single big zergball isn’t efficient when you’re getting pressed on all sides. Plus, getting more of the other commanders more experience in leading can’t hurt. But zerg balls just happen and you deal with it as best you can.

Btw, I’m having a blast with all this. The fights have been fun; it just gets a little stressful for the guys unable to catch a breather.

Usagi.4835:

I think people need to take off their tin-foil hats. 50-man fights are not a common occurrence and are an exaggeration.

Well, PiNK, just like RET, tends to attract a lot of pugs because we’re both very large guilds who are constantly in WvW, so our commanders are well known. Not everytime I see PiNK are there 50 guys with em, but it has happened and they’ve been ridiculously hard to fight, as to be expected.

EDIT: Oh, and I forgot who it was. But someone brought 4 omegas to FA keep in EB at some point. It was ridiculous. I think it was KN. Obviously, they took it.

EDIT #2 (sorry, been drinking): And I know RET hit the 50 man squad limit earlier last week at some point. Surprisingly, it was mostly RET and not pugs. It just goes to show that it does happen.

Sunspots.9861:

This is the part where we get excited for doing well and everyone calls us sore winners :P

Lol. You guys are putting in the hard work, so I’ll give you props for that. Blows my mind that you have so many people that, during off-hours I’m going from 1 BL to the next and still finding 40-50 man TC zergs =/ Meanwhile half of FA seemingly disappeared, making it hard for the guys still trying to fight it out.

My question is, what’s KN doing? Like…I KNOW that there’s no KN/TC alliance or anything of the sort, but TC’s creeping up on them in points and FA’s still getting hammered really hard by KN. Whenever I’m in EB/BL it feels like we’re madly dashing from defending against KN and TC one after another, several times even them hitting Durios and Bravost simultaneously….Our kitten is paper, so I understand it’s easier to take, but kitten Meanwhile, Anz, arguably the most vulnerable tower in EB, has been fully upgraded all day. Is KN just that confident in their SEA guilds to pull away in the mornings?

Oh, one last bit. TC, must you really bring so much siege to every kitten fight? >.<

I’m looking at you, PiNK. It’s getting to be overkill when you’re flash building AC’s for a 50 TC v 20 FA fight. It’s effective, yes, but jeez. Just takes all the fun out of group engagements. /glare

Sunspots.9861:

Lot of great fights on FABL right now. [RET] and [RISE] are like a voltron when they combine forces. Oh and score update!

Voltron? Combining forces?

You not seeing Kain taking over the east side of the map? We’ve been madly dashing from side to side to try to hold what little we can with our dwindling forces.

I think most of FA recognizes the 2v1 game is as it should be and also shifts around a lot. This week I think we’ve had only one guy making an uproar on the forums about it, and i don’t believe he was from any of the big WvW guilds. Maybe more than one, but he’s the only one I remember off hand.

If anyone, I think KN gets double teamed the least, which is kind of ironic.

They see me zergin’. They hatin’.

I see your Zerg QQ and raise you coordinated GvG (20v20 here):

That’s our pain train with glamours. Still a lot of work to be done (our silly thief… >.< ), but it’s effective.

I think we have roughly 12 or so hammer guardians or hammer warriors there. Stability may save you during the first pass, but the second and third?

Teamwork and coordination is the measure of skill in WvW. If you want to flex individual skill try sPvp. Or roam, but don’t kitten about zergs.

Warriors least “survivable” in WvW. They also have “well documented weaknesses.”

Can’t tell if trolling or…..

Seriously, pro-tip: hammer. And find a good guild/commander to run with.

Hmmm. To illustrate:

My guild runs in guild groups of about 20-40, including pugs. We usually run on tactics like hammer pain train with glams, churnballs, or more often a combination of the two.

One excuse I’ve seen is people saying that you should clear siege before moving in. This ignores a) ACs in locations where siege cannot clear them, and b) flash-building ACs.

We’ve even flash built ACs in open field before if we think we’re badly outnumbered by an incoming enemy Zerg. They help, but with this lock it becomes pretty stupid.

1. Enemy Zerg spotted by our scouts, heading our way.
2. We flash build 2 ACs and put traited warriors on them.
3. Zerg charges, half or more get caught in the lock, or at least slowed down enough to effectively break their charge.
4. We can then easily stand back and AoE them or flank and wipe them. Probably both.

The issue is that the ACs severely limited their mobility, if only for a few seconds. But those few seconds made the battle a cakewalk.

It’s so stupid.

Same scenario with keep defense: flash build ACs, lock the attacking force, our force pushes out and wipes them easily.

Intigo.1653:

The people who think this is fine as it is have not been on the receiving end of multiple Warriors on AC’s with it WHILE fighting a large zerg. The amount of Immobilize is not just “cleansed off” when it is reapplied constantly.

I really don’t see how some people can argue that this is not broken.

When I see someone defending it, I just assume they’ve never actually engaged in coordinated WvW and just run pug zergs all the time, aka blindly following the nearest Dorito and letting the Dorito do their thinking for them.

Because a coordinated guild using this is just too stupidly powerful.

People like to say this will encourage small groups of defenders to break/hold large zergs of attackers. Sure, that may be true.

But they don’t like to think about what happens when there are near to equal numbers on either side.

Bump it for the loot bags.

Seems like everyday I’m hearing of new WvW focused people coming to our server. We’ve got a great WvW community that really works together to make our foes go splat. Our guilds are organized, willing to help, and very competitive, but most importantly, we know how to have fun (while drenched in our opponents’ blood).

Some of my favorite FA videos to show you what we’re like:

The incomparable BT – with a hilarious intro

The FA Airborne Brigade

GvG – The Pain Train – RET and Shh v. RISE

RET v. RISE – The Slow Walk

Vagrant.1094:

I don’t know anything about Spring Breaks :p I wasn’t even aware students were on holidays >.>

What I do know is that comparative to last week, TC’s numbers are down (outmanned in US primetime last night, for example). That doesn’t prove anything other than the fact that we have less people playing this week than last – our more casual players haven’t shown up as they did the week prior. FA and KN may have less too. They may have more. They may have the same amount. They may be playing a smarter meta-game.
~Nyari Cil, Queen of EB

Thank you. I always find it aggravating when people attribute causation to coincidence.

Who knows why FA is doing better. Maybe we upped our ppt game. Maybe TC isn’t as motivated to win this week, after winning last week. Maybe FA is more motivated this week. Maybe KN is hitting TC harder this week, relative to last. Maybe FA is focusing on TC as opposed to KN. All these things could be true or false and yet would not paint a true picture, because more factors than that are in play.

Supposition is pointless. Better to just thwack things with hammers and worry about points and ranks later.

Arkard.3970:

2.) Regarding Spring Break, yes, many places in the U.S. have Spring Break this week. Combine that with St. Patrick’s Day and you have servers with more school aged demographics having a population surge while servers with older populations have a decrease. (Think most people would prefer drinking and getting over hangovers to WvW’ing) A lot of servers/guilds are just taking it easy given this and resting due to the proximity to the big March WvW patch. Hence why servers that have gone 10-0 (BG and SOR) and 9-0 (TC and FA) have their positions reversed for the first time literally ever this week.

Hah. I think he just called us all college aged drunkards. A drunkard I may be, but I could only dream of being in college again. The real world (read: jobs) sucks.

What a silly excuse. Because obviously, everyone on spring break is staying home and WvW’ing, and not, you know, at a beach or somewhere not balls kittening freezing cold.

Additionally obvious, FA is unable to learn a bit about meta-gaming and trying to do better in ppt as opposed to just trying to kill kitten.

Oh and even more freaking additionally obvious, BG is totally not simply getting double teamed pretty badly, according to their thread. Well, okay, this one is a bit weak because we all know how easy it is to cry “double teamed!” when you’re not faring well.

Holy crap. I actually agree with the Maguumans. And saiyr, no less.

I find it hard to believe that people are actually trying to defend this.

Yes. We know it can be countered. But for how stupidly easy it is to do, it has far too much of an impact on an attacking forces’ mobility.

Add a couple more defenders strafing that area with aoe/cc and the Zerg goes splat rather easily. Let’s not even talk about roughly even numbers on offense and defense. I know if my guild group came across a Zerg our size or larger, caught in these locks, we’d have a pain train field day.

Siege is vitally important in any engagement, if someplace is sieged and manned properly, it can stop zergs dead. But numbers do matter, and any force with overwhelming numbers should be able to win out. It’s simple math.

A lot of the defending here sounds like people who believe they’re good enough or smart enough to be able to beat a Zerg alone, or with a very small group. You’re not, and stop blaming a.net for making you incapable of doing so. Some people can, cause they actually are that good, but in your case, next time just call for help on team chat, mm’kay?

Aberrant.6749:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD2pt08VDoo

I wasn’t there… but this is probably the biggest fail ever.

Is that commander still active?? Cuz…wow. That there is why commander should be bought by badges, not gold.

Expunge.4926:

Squibbles.8724:

Saweth You Him.9047:

We got focused by Kain during Jerry hours while outmanned on every map <.<. This fight seems mute. TC does the ppt thing and Kain wipes out any borderland at will. Solution? Something better than dieing alot and reupgrading everything everyday while being pinned down defending paper forts. I’ll boycott this match on account of the Jerrys.

I don’t know about you, but my guild and I are actually happier when we see that we’re outmanned on a map.

not everyone runs in a guild…. dunno how that eluded you

How interesting!

Saweth You Him.9047:

We got focused by Kain during Jerry hours while outmanned on every map <.<. This fight seems mute. TC does the ppt thing and Kain wipes out any borderland at will. Solution? Something better than dieing alot and reupgrading everything everyday while being pinned down defending paper forts. I’ll boycott this match on account of the Jerrys.

I don’t know about you, but my guild and I are actually happier when we see that we’re outmanned on a map.

Oh my god! They’re not splitting Xp up! The world is ending!

Seriously people. Get a grip, unbunch your panties. You lot have no idea what this progression even really entails.

Furthermore, WvW and sPvP are two different game modes that reward based on different skill sets. sPvP focuses on the individual, WvW focuses on group coordination.

Yes, uncoordinated zergballs are full of fail. But ask Red Guard or many other extremely well coordinated outfits how much skill is involved. To me, an extremely well-coordinated GvG engagement is far more impressive than a single player duel, simply because of the fact that you’re combining the efforts of 20 people into a well-oiled machine of death.

It’s like the difference between a solo violinist and an orchestra. Both involve very skilled individuals. One shines because of personal brilliance, the other because of discipline and coordination.

Shadow Gathering.5649:

FA, in light of this week’s WvW forum ugliness, maybe we should talk about forum civility: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Fort-Aspenwood-Code-of-Forum-Conduct/first#post1635325

Don’t you think this would be better handled, on, say, the FA forums?

Also, as you’ve noticed, there are trolls on all servers, and I doubt any manifesto like that will make them stop. Honestly, I think the ‘trolling’ here has been actually rather light. I’ve seen much worse.

OutspokenAardvark.9781:

You received 4 SoS guilds just last week (2 of which were over 200 members) and those are only the ones we know of. And you got a lot more than 3 IoJ guilds, lemme look for the list. I’m not sure why FA continuously tries to deny that they keep convincing guilds to come to their server. First, it isn’t true. Secondly, I’m pretty sure all of us are jealous. So far TC can only get guilds from CD. DIS (long time ago), KH and CYN all came from CD and that is just about all of the transfers TC has ever recieved.

Yeah, I’m not sure what 4 guilds we got. I only ever heard of two that would definitely be involved in WvW.

Nor am I sure why you think we’re denying it. We have a freaking forum post that we repeatedly bump in order to recruit guilds, specifically SEA time guilds.

Lastly, it’s odd to hear this from a server that has tried to ninja our guild recruits before. It’s gotten to the point where, on our own freaking forums, we’re not supposed to say what guild may be interested in transferring, for fear of someone from TC trying to swoop in with a counter-offer.

Just want to clarify: Our oceanic coverage is nice, but it’s nothing like the Kaineng SEA coverage. We’ll have a good number of people and a couple awesome guilds cleaning up, but it feels more like we do well because of a lack of KN and TC coverage, not because we have huge numbers at that time. When SEA prime rolls around it feels like KN’s back up to NA prime numbers. That kitten is impressive.

For this match up I’ve been seeing points swing TC’s way during NA, FA during oceanic, and then Kain during Sea/Euro.

Rinse/repeat. It’s not every night, but pretty consistent.

And while it did sometimes seem like we’re getting doubled at times, I for one don’t attribute it to some super-secret illicit agreement between the two servers – just natural tendencies to double the team in second, or hit the guy you don’t like more. It’s all in good fun for me, makes it more exciting.

Loken.9724:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpwXxEvTK4U

[RET]/[SHH] VS [RISE]

We stopped to have some fun at the end of the night, RISE was once again kind enough to meet us in battle.

P.s TC might be kitten weeds, but so are FA. who really cares. All that matters is the death and destruction in game. You know you can’t win the war on the forums right? I am saying this to EVERYONE not just TC.

That video is awesome. I’m so upset that I’ve been away and thus unable to have joined in. The veils and movement coordination prior to each engagement were downright sexy, not to mention the tight re-stacking for water fields.

Huge credit goes to Alaric and the crew we and Shh fielded, and of course to RISE. I’ve always respected them as a fighting force, and it’s great to see us having these friendly GvGs. We can stand to learn a lot from fighting each other.

So, personal attacks now? Cool.

And here I thought some civility was returning. /facepalm

Hickeroar.9734:

I see the commanders chatter with them all them all the time. There’s a LOT of communication going on, and I have several times seen commanders lead whole huge groups over from various BLs to EB (or the like) to defend in a pinch, or for a particularly big push.

It’s weird because there’s a decent sized crew of people who like to defend keeps, etc, and then those who love to follow the commander on the offensive.

I can’t imagine sitting around a keep playing defense and stuff, but that’s apparently some people’s cup of tea…and I’m thankful for them.

Well, I know RET and the other big guilds are on the teamspeak server and the leaders try to communicate all the time, and we’ll switch BLs back and forth constantly to defend/attack. I’m more envisioning some General-type figure that overlooks the battlefield from on high and directs all the respective guilds and groups around. Because, like I said, we do have a tendency to tunnel vision.

So, do you guys literally have people who sit back in the keeps, receiving scouting reports, watching the maps and timers in all 4 BLs, keep tabs on which guild groups are active in what BLs, and are in charge of allocating and directing your forces from on high?

Cuz…that’d be pretty freaking amazing. Maybe boring, since you don’t get to fight, but incredibly effective in terms of PPT. I know we tend to tunnel vision on the field.

Teamkiller.4315:

We are stuck with each other!

The horror!

Hmm, on reflection I’ll apologize if any of my posts were too trolly. Part of it is I’m stuck visiting relatives for a few days, and thus, unable to WvW. Relatives-induced stress + no WvW outlet = forum trolling.

Another part is that I think I have a skewed view of WvW. Because I almost exclusively only ever run with guild groups (sometimes if RET isn’t in force, with BT, PRO, or AVTR), I guess my experience has been mostly one of dominating uncoordinated zergs. Occasionally we’ll stack against guild groups; those are my favorite fights and are much more interesting and I’ll give due respect to good enemy tactics. RET is still developing and learning/trying new tactics, so any good fight we have is one we relish.

So, when I see TC, or anyone for that matter, boasting about their PPT or success otherwise, part of me goes “WTF we roll those fools so hard.” And then I troll.

Naturally, I’m sure a lot of TC’ers see us boasting and just think “LAWLZ those sobs are sore losers and need to grasp at straws. Suckas need to learn the meta game.” And then they troll.

Rinse, repeat. Vicious cycle.

FA definitely does suck at the meta game. We need to improve on that and could learn from TC. Also, I think some of our fairweathers may have disappeared now that things are actually challenging, putting more pressure on the big WvW guilds to carry the server. At the same time, I think, barring a few guilds, TC could stand to learn a bit from FA and/or Kaineng about tactics, builds, open field combat, etc.

OutspokenAardvark.9781:

If you don’t know who [DIS] is you must not play during NA.

Actually I play during NA prime and into oceanic. Guess I nor anyone on our teamspeak ever really noticed you guys, like we do rise, pink, wm, run, re, and the others.

Oh, I remember seeing CERN a few times now that someone mentioned them, not often though.

What is this DIS guild and why have I never noticed them in the field? Or even heard of them?

And come now. RISE is a good WvW guild, their pain train is very painful if we screw up the engagement. Also, mocking the enemy for failing to take a sieged defense (assuming so, I wasn’t there) is like a pro wrestler boasting about the time he beat a 12 year old. If numbers are roughly even, you have a huge advantage.

Of all the big guilds I’ve faced so far, RISE gives me the most cause for concern. Sometimes we wipe them. Sometimes they wipe us. I find that if you afford an enemy their due respect, losing to them on occasion isn’t troubling. Just incentive to improve.

I’ve fought PiNK, WM, Meow,TV and KH from TC.

PiNK – I can’t be sure. It seems whenever I run into you guys, it’s like 10-15 pink and 15-20 pugs, so I can’t comment on how effective you are since I’m not sure whether its a true guild group. It’d be unfair to judge you thusly.

WM & meow – Only fought their guild groups during SEA time, where the numbers difference made it impossible to judge. Looked organized and effective, for what it’s worth. (Except one delayed portal – poor golems)

TV’s strategy seems to revolve against fighting unorganized zergs that charge straight into them. Not so effective against guild groups.

KH – small skirmishes. Seemed at least tankier and more individually skilled than your average TC’er.

There’s the key difference. You like supporting people. Commanders need to lead.

I’m sorry, but you asked for advice on whether a glass commander was viable. Most people have said no, but with caveats for certain situations.

Now, after all the feedback, you sound upset that you can’t be a good commander because you’re unwilling to change your build, and you fault the game design for that. Listen, do what you want. Get the tag. Just don’t expect to be really effective.

P.s. on my guardian/necro, I’m upset if I’m not hitting 5 targets per attack/well/mark when I push into a zerg.

azizul.8469:

yeah.. be ruthless on the battlefield , but still be respectful on forum.. that’s the culture KN and TC trying to promote here….

Ruthlessly abusing our limited inventory space? Gawsh, you guys are so good at that!

But seriously. Stahp. You’re going to make me go blind. (Or did the doc say that was the other thing…? Hmmm…. )

nibbles.2408:

That’s mostly the point I wanted to get across, that every server has its trolls. It is the unfortunate circumstance that FA is viewed in the light of it’s trolls, so when TC overtakes us, the forum becomes a round of TC backslapping (which I understand, you guys worked hard to get to second, and I commend you for it).

Honestly, I think their PR crew has worked harder than their fighters. I don’t blame you, Kaineng, I understand, I really do. They have cookies and funny posts and lots of pretty glass. And cowbell!! On the other hand, we at FA are a dislikable bunch; we really are just a bunch of trolls with hammers. Really big hammers.

EnRohbi.2187:

vespers.1759:

Rayya.2591:

vespers.1759:

lol @ glass canon thief. nobody doesn’t play a glass canon thief. that invis is way way better than any armor.

Yes invisibility would save you when 2 zergs of 50 players collide.
Nobody will hit you, because you are invisible, and you are imune at aoe.
Specialy with 1900 armor /12000 hp (glass cannon thief)

people don’t usually drop AoE on themselves or behind their zerg. and i think there’s enough videos out there of thiefs running amok in zergs to know it can be done… easily.

L2P your faceroll class.

Those are terrible zergs.
It takes 1 (One) competent player in the entire group to kitten up that thief’s day.

Agreed, those are the true definition of zergs – unorganized willy nilly chaos.

Try that in a fight against an organized guild group and you’ll get smushed.

Personally, I hate following any commander who isn’t a walking tank. The commanders role isn’t really to dish out damage. Their primary role is to scope the battlefield, decide upon tactics, dictate group movement, call for coordinated group actions, etc. you need to have a ton of survivability to do that; the more time you’re spending trying to stay alive/dps, the less time you’re thinking about the battlefield as a whole.

Oddly enough, I don’t find too much issue with the engineer down-state, but I guess it’s just my build that makes it viable.

Nothing beats dropping an elixir at my feet just before I go down for a self rez

Unless someone starts their stomp immediately, and my pull misses (or multiple people stomping immediately) I can usually get myself up really quickly. It’s hilarious when I consider what baddies must be thinking when I do that.

Oh, and the AoE blast on cliff ledges in WvW is pants-wettingly funny.

But yeah, there is some imbalance with downed states. Bad mesmers will mis-time their #2. Bad stompers will stomp the clone/ dps with confusion stacks. Good mesmers will time the #2 to interrupt the stomp. Good stompers will immediately stomp to force the #2, cancel stomp, and wait for the red triangle to stomp again, all before the illusionary rogue can pop.

Annoying, yes. Game breaking? Nope. Balance needed? Maybe. But I don’t think a forum post of angry QQ and self-biased defending will do anything to further the argument in A.nets mind.

Aberrant.6749:

GREAT fight at SM tonight everyone had tons of fun with the 3 way

That was quite possibly one of the most fun and craziest fights I’ve ever had.

For an hour (or however long it took, time seemed to stand still), our teamspeak chat went something like this:

“Kain at the south hall, OH kitten TC at the northwest hall!”

“Kain pushing in, WALLS WALLS WALLS kitten they’re running up the ramp. WATCH OUT TC COMING IN TOO! Stop them stop them!!”

“Okay, I think we wiped most of —- KAIN’S COMING DOWN THE RAMP! MOVE MOVE!!”

“Kain went back up, kitten TC’S BACK!! THEY’RE BUILDING BALLISTAS IN THE NW HALL! CLEAR THE LINE OF FIRE!”

“Get the dead up, clear your bags, someone got a merchant?… KAIN’S BACK!! SO IS TC!! GET OUT OF THE CENTER!!”

“LORD’S DOWN, REZ HIM REZ HIM!”

“ kitten lag!! I can’t even heal!!”

“Kain’s pushing! Ha! They went through TC’s hall and cleared their siege!”

“Push push! NO! Fall back fall back! Walls! kitten, a mesmer got through, watch for portals!!”

“THEY’RE BACK!! Oh god, there’s so many, I don’t think we can hold — DON’T GIVE UP! KEEP FIGHTING! WE CAN DO THIS!”

“Oh my god I can’t believe we survived….THEY’RE BACK! Gahhhhh!”

Etc. Incredibly fun, and, while I try not to chest bump, I’ve got to give props to PRO for leading and making up the backbone of our group, along with a few RETs and other guilds there. Considering that we had about 20 people (maybe more by the end) and that we lost our siege pretty early in the engagement, I was astounded. Though, at some point someone actually brought in an omega golem, lol.

To the TC and Kain that were there, /salute. Great fights, guys.

Sunspots.9861:

If you were on FABL last night, you might be in this movie! Remember to watch in 1080p and subscribe if you want to see more!

Titling that video “BT and Friends…” when I only counted a few BT is kind of misleading. I saw AVTR, Drgn, TFAS, BT, SHOT, LUST, Shh…so, yeah. Seems more like an assorted bunch, rather than a BT core group with a few odd militia, as the title implies.

You know, just in case you were trying to say that you pulled a fast one on a guild that many people considered to be quite skilled.

nibbles.2408:

I don’t understand all the FA posters saying that KN is winning because of PvD. For over two hours this morning we (FA) held WM and Meow from capping our garrison. It was some of the best WvW/FA performances I have seen, and it really discredits us few SEA timeslot players when you basically state that we don’t exist. Yes we are outnumbered, but discrediting KN’s advances while we are outnumbered discredits our own accomplishments when we are the ones heavy in population.

Any points achieved during FA downtime are hard fought, and us valiant few are here to make sure of that. The problem with this morning is that our defense ultimately cost us ppt. KN stayed in FABL to take garrison for hours, whereas if they capped the whole thing they would have left and allowed us to recoup our loses, which is what happened in TCBL.

Having actually stayed awake a few times and seen what it’s like during SEA time, you guys deserve a ton of credit. It’s easy to be a NA player and enjoy the good team fights and roughly even numbers. It can be incredibly difficult and frustrating to do what you guys do day in and day out, not to mention demoralizing. However, it can also be quite fun to re-enact the battle of Thermopylae on an hourly basis. So, kudos to you guys.

I think our point was just directed at the KN zergs that run around that time. PvDoor is boring as hell, I know that many of us just stopped WvWing during certain periods in our t3 time. Run around, smack a door. Kill a NPC, sit in circle. Run around, steam roll a smaller group in an uninteresting fight. Smack a door. Repeat.

It’s no accusatory – I know that it’s just unfortunate server composition during their gaming time; I’m just honestly confused as to how they find enjoyment in that, day after day.

hyyangoz.6195:

IRSyKo.5843:

war.3790:

Mattjavelin.5164:

Good fights today Kain and TC hehe it seems like we pushed the both of you two out of our bl faster than last week with kain and SOS on day 2 haha nice attempts all.

Look at that reinforced borderline, would be sad if someone…. fliped it in 10 min =)

Great job PvDooring Meow/WM 30 man groups a piece. Against about 15 FA

You guys are really good

LoL 15 man? we were there since be beginning of the bay attack we had about 20 excluding the pugs. from what we saw from our end you guys had more than 15ppl and heaps of siege. we manage to dry up your supplys and distracted all your group. by doing this your hills and garrison was taken. after that ppl come over to bay to take

long battle it was.

You’re right. It was maybe 20 FA defenders from assorted guilds trying to run back and forth defending both Bay and Hills from simultaneous attacks from a 30+ group of Meow and militia and another 30+ group of WM and militia.

When Hills went down, we rushed to defend Bay; Garrison was a lost cause because WM had already had golems on the gates before any of our force could get back there. After Garrison went down, WM tried a rather large golem rush on the southern inner Bay door that ultimately failed because of a delayed mesmer portal, which allowed our siege to knock them to half health before they reached the door. They backed off. Then Meow hit the northern inner gate of Bay, we held them then pushed out and wiped most of your crew out. While we were busy dealing with that, WM had rushed back with more golems and finished off the southern door, got in, and finished us.

Just goes to show what overwhelming numerical superiority can do; we had to call out to the other BLs and EB just to get even those 20 defenders. We really need more of a SEA presence

Are the TC and Mag forum warriors going at it in their thread? That may be entertaining, but I don’t feel like perusing…20ish pages now…

Anyhow, I kind of feel bad for DB, Mag, and Yaks when SoS moves down to t3. I have a feeling they’re hoping/expecting that SoS will not steam roll them like FA and TC had a tendency to, but I think they’ll be mistaken. SoS may have fewer numbers, but not by too much. And they’re very well organized and effective, especially if Tsym is thrown into the mix.

XIII.6351:

Epic hills battle on SoS bl.. Fort aspenwood got a massive kitten army.. /salute

That’s funny, because the entire time we were stunned by how freaking huge your army was, lol.

I think later, after the fight for the supply depot north of hills, I was dead and watching your army stream past. It took practically a full minute for everyone to mosey on by.

Great fights though, this week has been a blast.

Tool.3749:

You could always just leave the forums?

People like this guy makes people like me just feel really good at just being, you know, better.

Better PvPers, better players, better sportsmanship, better human beings in general…Gosh, the list just goes on!

So, thanks for that, it made me smile.

Can we have our Maguuma forum warriors back please, instead of this guy? Honestly, his posts make my head hurt.

Hey pal, at no point did anyone single you out as being unskilled. They just said the obvious: an organized zerg against an unorganized one provides little to no fun, because the result is practically pre-determined. Your over-the-top reaction to this neutral comment actually singles yourself out as being typically part of an unorganized zerg, aware of the fact, and raging against your inability to be more successful. Because the healthy thing to do in the face of a challenge is rage, and not, you know, adapting to the challenge.

While no one singled you out as a terribad, due to the content of your posts and your incessant raging, you actually do sound like a terribad. So, good job on that. Please continue posting and proving what I already know.