Guild Wars 2

As of writing, Piken Square (Very High) has the following queues on BL’s:

Jade Sea BL: 12
Piken BL: 2
Vizunah BL: 1
EB: 11

Now.. On Desolation our status is:
Gandara BL: No queue
Desolation BL: No queue
Far Shiverpeaks BL: Outmanned
EB: Outmanned (!)

So, how do ANet calculate World Population? Desolation has a decent night-crew, is it that making Desolation’s Status: Full?

I got a friend on Piken Square who just activated the game after 2 years of being inactive, him and I breathe WvW, and he can’t transfer to join me on Desolation which kinda sucks. We both have our whole former guild on this server so we’d both like to play on Desolation.

Edit: I posted this as my own thread (got merged here) and had hence not read any other replies.

Same, have a friend who was inactive for 2 years on a then mid-tier server, now that tier is absolutely dead and boring making him want to quit. He wants to transfer to play with me on the 2nd ranked EU server but can’t. This guy just bought the deluxe edition of HoT to get gems and stuff for transfer, but he can’t even use them and now he’s talking about quitting. Is this how you want it to go ANet? WvW is already partially dead in T1, if you try to force people away from kitten the lower tiers you’re only gonna demoralize and bore the T1 players even more making the largest WvW-fans quit. Please change this policy.

Agree with Kefro, in EU T1 WvW is dead most of the time outside of primetime, and even at primetime it can feel empty if a bad commander is online in EB etc.

Garrus.7403:

Entenkommando.5208:

In arrow carts we trust.
In swiftness we believe.
Nightcap is our force.

Hail Kodash!

Are you sure its not your own slogan from Kodash m8?

Don’t think we’ll see the likes of Vizunah ever again!

Piken Square (EU) just went from Full to Very High.

Ah, the good old days.

Happy to see you’re back, hope to see more vids in the future.

Hump for glory!

Legno.6548:

A great well played to all the FSP community, a special thanks to the ppl who didn’t sleep tonight, and to all who give everything they had to win this matchup.

I know that Im speaking too early, but awakening in the morning and seeing the matchup scores gave me a thrill… When I went to sleep we were 2-3k under those FR, and now we’re going to win. Amazing!

Love to this server community, which now I fell like a big family

A Dog.

Totally agree Doge, was fun to see when we woke up that we’d went past FR and that we’re now on our way to win the first matchup. Fun that we won’t lose the first round of the league system due to nightcapping.

Looking forward to a very interesting matchup coming up tonight.

Just wanted to say congratulations to UW, as of writing you’ve held SM for 14 minutes!

I reported the thread so hopefully they fix it soonish. If you get any infraction points Brodd pwease don’t kill me <3

How can they not have fixed this yet.. u.u

Been pretty bad lately. Some days whenever there is only 1 orange sword on our BL we get crazy lag.

http://i.imgur.com/liFvM3S.jpg

Yay pvd!

Cynz.9437:

french ppl, or eu rather, do fight different o.o

was pretty awkward on frist night after xfering to FR

Less omega golems?

FSP is FULL on EU guilds, this thread is not directed at EU guilds.

Had fun last night, came on pretty late but ran with 12-14 guildies for a bit at least and fought aZm and others. aZm has been the only guild on FR to avoid engaging us when they’ve seen we’re already outnumbered when we’re fighting another FR guild, so respect for that!

Had an awesome reset, huge miller blobs! Really fun fights.

Massive props to [Rage] for the GvG, was a lot more intense than we expected!

iorlas.6721:

Didn’t know Bay was thru the tunnel you tried to hide in

You mean the tunnel where we hid and later ran out and killed and scared the rest off down to the camp? After that we’d been running over you for almost 10 minutes while you kept rezzing behind us and frankly we got bored so we didn’t reengage when we saw you rezzing half of your raid, again.

poepie.6570:

Good to see VoTF knows how to “advance in the other direction” after a bunch of them get killed and they can’t seem to kill the other group. hehehe

Good fights so far on Uw border, hope to see some more during the rest of the evening. ;p

Keep it up fellow Underworlders, we can slap them back to where they came from!

When we were fighting at Northwest camp against you? Yea we went back to Bay because GH was on the inner gate. But that would be hard for you to know so I forgive you

We were talking today about it feeling like we fought Abaddon again, you rezz as much as they do midcombat. Quite boring because eventually you stop giving wexp.

iorlas.6721:

I’ll keep it simple for you…simple yes or no answer’s will do.
Did you intend to take Garrison?
Did you succeed?
If you don’t succeed at something is that a failure?
This is a game not real life all that bs has nothing to do with succeeding or failing in an online video game.Doesn’t matter if it’s in a game or real life if you do not succeed in what you attempt you have failed,no matter how you want to colour it…you failed to take Garrison.2 out of 3 is not success it’s pretty good but not successful so therefore you must have failed.If you want to believe you didn’t fail that’s up to you,everyone fails at something sometime,it’s nothing to be ashamed of.
I wanted to score 3 goals lastweek i only got 2 so i failed.i was very happy with 2 but i never got the third i don’t mind admitting i failed to reach my target.

Another comparison:

I wanted to collect a banana, an apple and a pear last night. They only had a banana and an apple at the store, so instead of buying a pear I bought an avocado. It’s also really good.

Banana = Bay
Apply = HIlls
Pear = Garrison
Avocado = lootbags & wexp

Brew Pinch.5731:

gwfanboy.2496:

Smart warriors have 10 seconds of endure pain, almost 9 seconds of immunity vs conditions and have two stabilities. One to back up the 2nd in case the 1st gets ripped. The OP might have run into those. Endure pain, zerker stance can’t be rippd. I doubt two necros will waste rip boon on one warrior. I always pop one expecting it to be ripped then pop the 2nd right after.

Carrying Endure pain, 2 stability utilities and zerker stance? Dude… That’s not possible, sorry.

You can trait for the second stability, but that doesn’t allow you to “pop one expecting it to be ripped then pop the 2nd right after”.

I’m thinking about the 50 seconds in a minute that you’re not immune to damage, conditions or CC.

I don’t even play Warrior outside of sPvP (even then just for a giggle) and I can pick the bullkitten you lot are peddling in this thread a mile away.

It’s sad people have to blame their failure on something beyond their control when it is abundantly clear they were just straight up outplayed.

Like Qla said, watch the video. It’s not only warriors in this fight. And good luck trying to catch a ton of warriors who scatter in all directions as soon as the lord is up, like going out the water gate, which we twice took down by hand cause they repaired it and we wanted to put people out there to prevent them from running out there. We always did kill a few warriors but when there’s constant harassment by enemies zerging the lords circle and by mortars & even a treb firing poison in the whole ring it’s pretty hard. And then take in to consideration that they use the WP every 3rd minute to get back in. Also you don’t really seem to understand how fast warriors are in movement.. Greatsword 3/5 & sword 2.. Good luck catching all those warriors.

CyFreeze.1275:

To add to that. We had at most 25 defenders up in the garrison at any time fighting VoTF, Kale and Punk with their 60-70 (wild guess). More in the end when we closed the gates, maybe close to even numbers then. But I don’t think we ever came close to the 20 warriors you mentioned in the beginning.

edit Also we had 30+ mins queues on the borderland. So no switching out characters.

So you had a queue on the borderland.. And only 25 defenders defending a T3 garrison..

Something doesn’t add up.

Boulderbolg.3460:

Boon (stability) strip, CC. Game over, warrior.

Good luck doing that on 10-20 warriors who all got stability when they come in from all around the upper area of Garrison, and if you send too many up there then you won’t kill them quick enough in circle.

MiLkZz.4789:

1. lure the lord to a more distant ‘hidden’ spot and leave few guarding it so nobody can manually rezz him.
2. spread out and block all players before they are even getting close to the lord.
3. strip their stability off and CC to death.
4. or if you can set up a far enough zone that they waisted all their CDs before they even get to the lord.

It’s funny how organized guilds don’t have that much trouble with this and pug zergs do. I do think banner rezz is annoying, but it is a genuine tactic and has counters. Both sides can use it and well done from the defenders.

1. Can be tried, but imagine having one guild with 20 players get the lord to a corner, what do the enemies do? They stand above and banner.
2. Spread out and block all players, hmm.. Block out 10-20 warriors using endure pain & stability? Good luck. Especially if a lot of these warriors are from the same guild and are on TS together coordinating their movement.
3. Hard to strip a lot of warriors stability when they also use other stuff to get more than 5 boons (boon cap is 5 on boonstrips). Simply put, the enemy will always get at least one warrior through. And then the rest scatter in all directions as soon as the lord is up again.
4. Clearly this is not an open field where you can try kite the lord large distances so that it’ll will take a lot of time for the enemies to get to him.

Imagine that what OP said happens with the enemy having a full (or almost full BL) defending garrison. They may be so ineffective at killing you that you’re able to stay in the lords room for a long time, but it will still be near impossible to cap garrison with so many using warbanner.

Also now, imagine that the enemy defenders has 3 guilds defending, aside from pugs. So that whenever one of your guilds pulled too far away they would instantly get jumped by these guilds from the ramps.

Also, the enemies will rebuild mortars on outer firing constantly in to the lords room, and we can’t get out because then we won’t get back in. Yes, theoretically it is possible to portal but it is all too tricky.

Simply put, this is NOT working as intended.

From the outside looks like a fun guild with a lot of colourful & positive individuals. Also from their videos seems like they love fighting organized guilds as often as possible, always a good sign!

Thanks for the warm welcome both here, ingame and on TS! Have had two very fun raids during the 2 nights we’ve been here

Happy to see you’re still around Troma. I agree, the need to seek coverage while being the top server feels a bit… off. Reminds me of JQ when we played on SoS

Had a fun night, hope HT/Rage/CE also had a fun night. Thanks to the guilds contacting us for scrims! Was very fun.

I’d rather see Devon Carver replying here about this topic as it concerns him a lot as well. I doubt the ANet player would say what he said if it wasn’t for Devon looking down so much on GvG and from that the relationship between the GvG-community and the devs have gone sour.

I’d also get mad if someone called me a “kittening kitten” like the ANet guy did, wouldn’t surprise me if the person who said that gets a short ban.. unless the ANet devs are too afraid to get more criticism if the guy who said it says it’s ANet’s revenge.

All in all a good post by Chris Whiteside. Thanks for replying on a Saturday Chris.

I’m still disappointed by the overall state of WvW and lack of capability for GvG though, but that’s another topic.

Darkman.1257:

ArenaNet killed GW2, killed any interesting part of it (GvG). Most ridiculous situation I’ve encountered in my gaming life. They are worse than EA and first Origin.

They’ve stated painfully and obviously that they are not interested in GvG or any organisation of arenas for us.

The game is dead. Shame, GW2 had so much potential. Too bad that tards in the management killed the game.

Uninstalling the game after playing it over a year. Nothing else for us here.

Pathetic

Sad to hear

Hope to see you in future games, to fight with or maybe against you!

I’ll always keep an eye out for you in the future Drq <3

lordkrall.7241:

Well, he did have a point (if the story is true). You DID disturb his WvW, and the devs have made it quite clear that WvW will always be more important than GvG in WvW.

Thanks [oO] for the scrims last night, was very fun and worked despite the orbs due to flexibility

Will look forward to seeing you future nights then on the battlefield, if you kill us you can teabag us and call it even <3 Our guild leader probably thinks that’s kinda kinky actually.

No need to lay out excuses for anything, it was fun fighting you, even though you were perhaps a bit too tanky for it to be too exciting at times. It’s not like we judge a guild or players from one fight.

The ele sitting is a “murican” called Cheng and not Super (the captain of Car Crash, who also btw isn’t the leader of VoTF).

Immolator.5640:

We get it already VotF, you guys can beat up 5 people… no need to emote spam on us too…

Dat honour and respect on the battlefield from well reputed guilds

Well you changed from 5-12 players during the several fights we had while we were 7-8.

No need to be uptight about the emotes, just some good ol’ bonding!

Hoping for less blobby fights with this matchup than we had against Piken/Vizunah. So far this night has mixed results. Some great fights vs Yak.

At 21 UK time last night we were outmanned on the BL I was on, usually there’s a 1h queue at that point.

Straegen.2938:

Arkard.3970:

Intended? Probably not. Foreseeable? Definitely.

They die when the log back in… does rob players of a bag though.

Atherakhia.4086:

Most servers out there play with a queue.

Nope… that only happens on a very small minority of servers. Mid-pack and lower servers rarely queue a map and almost never queue all the maps.

Nope if a person is put in combat with another person and then Alt+F4’s then it gets counted as a kill and you receive loot for it. They changed this a few months ago.

Happy to see you still play Troma

Oeps Rolls Necro.2594:

If you cant take it with a 2 to 1 ratio your doing it wrong.

We’re not talking about a 2:1 ratio. We’re talking about a 1:1-1:2 ratio where we’re unable to cap simply because we can’t kill them all quick enough because they use the waypoint to get in every 3rd minute AND they banner the lord over and over. This happened last night in a T3 Bay we were taking on homeland. We eventually took it but only after the lord getting bannered 4 times and them porting in 2 times using the WP.

And if you say “cover the waypoint with ranged”, do you know how stupid that would be if you’re fighting an even or outmanned battle already? You can’t waste any members then just sitting there focusing on the waypoint, because those people will die and you also won’t kill the others as efficiently.

DevonCarver.5370:

Using banners to rez is absolutely okay with us. That said, we have looked into and will continue to look into ways to make it a little less zany. But the reality is, you should kill the warriors.

I can’t believe I missed this thread (and especially the above response)..

I still can’t comprehend the fact that they’re screwing us over so bad. Especially at this point in time when GvG is becoming an even bigger and more active branch in GW2.

Hope you don’t get too disappointed by what the devs do Ogre. In the end they must somehow make us able to GvG, if not then the WvW-team is chopping their leg off (not shooting themselves in the foot..) – and then I hope you come back with your videos.

Been great fun seeing your videos though Ogre, even though you’ve heard it before most likely; kudos for coming up with a new way to broaden and increase the interest in GvG among guilds and players in WvW.

I totally agree with OP here, if a piece of siege is so effective that it can ACTUALLY help you capture a T3 keep then it should be nerfed. T3 keeps were never intended to be captured by enemies. Amirite?

Honestly though I’d like to see ram mastery, so that the rams you drop have some sort of immunity system against projectiles (maybe just AC damage or all projectile not sure) for the person using it, and of course the ram itself should get a huge damage reduction from arrow carts (how unrealistic is it not that arrows can destroy a wooden piece of siege?)

Have No Faith In Me.1840:

Equivalent to karma banner would be 5%. They increased wxp gains across the game, plus added boosters and the half level consumable. If they’re going to increase it further they may as well just give everyone every trait and do away with levels.

Maybe 15% is over the top for a banner. But 5% (like Kill Exp Banner) or 10% (like Magic Find Banner) would be useful.

I disagree on the other part though, it definitely should be possible to buy this as an upgrade as you can get all other things like +% gathering bonus & karma etc as a guild bonus.

And while you’re at it, throw in a banner for 15% as well!

Plain and simple, let us buy a guild upgrade which gives members 10% more WExp for 24 hours, just like PvP influence/Magic Find/Kill Exp etc works.

Due to recent recruitment we’re now only looking for 1 more active warrior to fill out our ranks.