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So basically you want WvW?
With better scenery – like the Brand for example.
This, that is all. I have 0 reason to play in any of the PvE maps with the current state of endgame with the exception of world bosses. That makes me a sad panda because so many of the maps are awesome.
Here is a good example. I was showing some friends obsidian sanctum for the first time the other day while playing my ranger. I spotted some fool from another server ahead of us and used my longbow knockback to decimate his progress in the puzzle hahaa. Maybe if he’d been more aware of his surroundings he could have popped some stability but players in this game aren’t used to watching their back while doing solo PvE content.
Always makes me giggle these types of threads.
So let me take a pot shot at what is really going on. You enjoyed gearing up fast in WvWvW and having an advantage over lots of lower level/geared players. Now time has passed and more often than not people have about the same gear level. You still get the odd low level player but for the most part its high level players with good or better gear on. No more ganky videos being made for youtube that call themselves PVP when its really gear vs gear.
So now, what you want, its to open the whole game up to abuse. Thats all it is, no reason to pretend otherwise. Like some have said, sitting on vista points, waiting to jump someone. Yeah, I someone wasnt expecting you to run around in the open looking for an equal fight, nope, wanting to jump low level players again.
Why not come into proper PVP, we all have the same gear and everything, nice and fair like.
Wrong, 75% of the time I play this game I’m playing SPvP. I want a feature like this b/c as someone stated above if such a feature did exist maybe map completes wouldn’t be such a bore… the second or third time around. First time working for world complete is breathtakingly awesome.
The world maps in GW2 are beautiful and I would love to do my favorite activity (PvP) in the snow of Frostgorge or tropical islands of Southsea or in the volcano of Mount Maelstrom. There would be this extra incentive and feeling of purpose for roaming around the amazing PvE maps that Anet put so much time and effort into making. After hitting 80 ppl only see about 2% of these maps on a regular basis because of a handful of world bosses.
Remember it would be OPTIONAL.
Edit: Just read the message that my thread was moved to the SPvP section… smh I don’t think it belongs here. Do you think something like this would kill the SPvP population as well as the WvW population?
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How did I not know about Black Desert until reading this thread? Holy crap it looks amazing.
The mechanics of gw2 are great, just wish there was more forms of pvp to make it more competitive and less casual.
I did not want to make me tap it. Or get killed. Or fight with players.
A limit duels, ok, people want, but the pvp in pve, I do not have any desire.I took it as the OP suggesting this be a separated part of the world, but using PvE maps to fight in.
Yes… this is my second time ever making a thread here and it is absolutely amazing how many people will jump in and post without even reading one sentence of what I’ve said and just go off the title alone.
Basically there are 2 ways it could be implemented:
1) You check or uncheck a box in your map screen that says PVP and whenever you use a waypoint you are placed in an instance of that zone according to which type you want still abiding by all the current megaserver stuff just ppl are able to attack based on WvW color.
2) At any point while you are in a zone you can check or uncheck a PvP flag which would allow the aggressive ‘PvPers’ to be mixed in the same zone as the passive ‘PvEers’ just those without the flag on would be immune to any player damage.
I think option 1 would be best because if this thread alone is any proof of the attitudes of the community, the PvEers would be outraged at the notion of even seeing so much as one asura getting knocked off of a vista by some asura engi hiding in the bushes because it doesn’t fit the ‘lore’ of everyone holding hands and working together to fight dragons. (and yet places like heart of the mists, EOTM and WvW still exists..)
I’m sure it could be fit in somehow but this really draws the line for part of the community apparently.
The megaservers don’t alleviate all the design reasons for this feature not existing. Maps will need to have all their events reworked to allow for the different player factions for a start.
How? Keep it the same as it is right now. If you kill a few things then you have essentially ‘tagged’ the event and will get appropriate credit regardless of whether or not you are in the presence of the quest when it completes. Someone killed you in the middle of completing an event? No problem, you rez at a different waypoint, your killer finishes the quest and voila you still get your gold contribution rewards for it.
Events should just ignore faction differences and continue operating the way they are right now.
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No need for a seperate pvp server; just an on/off switch to get into the pvp mode is enough
Correct. I don’t understand how people are getting mad about this if you can opt out. Do you feel like your missing out on the party if you choose not to be in a PvP version of the zone?
Ganking would be a potential but not as bad as a game like WoW b/c of the downleveling system. I do see ganking at wp’s as an issue though and some sort of nuetral zones would have to be worked out but then again there is three different colored teams. The likelihood of one color dominating the exact same instance of a map at all 20 or so waypoints seems slim.
The only valid argument I can see against this from Anet’s perspective is the health of the WvW map populations if Owpvp was put into place. Would they tank or remain the same?
Keep in mind the main reason I’m suggesting this is because megaserver exists now and there is likely only a simple boolean flag standing in the way of us being able to PvP in PvE zones right now. If megaserver wasn’t around it would certainly be a great deal of work to figure out technically.
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At this point I am all for a PvP realm. Everyone that tags up for it ends up with the other PvP people and those that don’t tag don’t end up there in the megaserver. Let them troll each other all day and night.
This is a good point, tags would have a questionable place in this sort of open world pvp system but would still be needed for guild quests etc.
Yes open world PvP in every zone, not mandatory completely optional. I’ll explain megaserver since some in this thread are apparently not aware that its already here. Whenever we go to a PvE zone right now you are thrown in an instance of that map with people from any of the the GW2 servers. Not just your own.
No extra factions are necessary because everyone is already assigned a faction color for the week for WvW (red, blue, green). So the only difference I’m suggesting is that people from a server that is a different WvW color than yours for the will be able to fight you in any zone.
Imagine camping at vistas with a knockback ready or giant battles at world boss spawns or just the ability to fight in Southsea or Frostgorge in general would be awesome. If you think that would cause too much grief and aggravate you then go to a non-pvp version of the zones while doing your map completes. That simple.
IndigoSundown.5419, if this interferes with the lore too much for you, explain WvW and Edge of The Mists lol.
http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/TemperHoof/072012/23486_Guild-Wars-2-Redefines-Open-World-PVP
“The overall design for Guild Wars 2 does not support fully open world PvP and it would take a prohibitive amount of work to even make it possible. World versus world is our version of open world PvP, and while it isn’t ‘true’ open world PvP for more PvP purists, it does contain many of the elements that make world PvP so exciting. Hopefully it will mostly satisfy people that want open world PvP.” — Mike FergusonThere you have it – NO!
When was this… oh! July 2012? You mean a year and a half before the megaserver was implemented?! I think most of that “prohibitive amount of work” is done. I’m willing to bet that whats preventing us from being able to fight one another in a PvE zone vs a WvW zone is 1 simple boolean variable labeled, PvP Enabled: True/False whenever we switch zones.
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Yes open world PvP in every zone, not mandatory completely OPTIONAL. I’ll explain megaserver since some in this thread are apparently not aware that its already here. Whenever we go to a PvE zone right now you are thrown in an instance of that map with people from any of the the GW2 servers. Not just your own.
No extra factions are necessary because everyone is already assigned a faction color for the week for WvW (red, blue, green). So the only difference I’m suggesting is that people from a server that is a different WvW color than yours for the will be able to fight you in any zone.
Imagine camping at vistas with a knockback ready or giant battles at world boss spawns or just the ability to fight in Southsea or Frostgorge in general would be awesome. If you think that would cause too much grief and aggravate you then go to a non-pvp version of the zones while doing your map completes. That simple.
IndigoSundown.5419, if this interferes with the lore too much for you, explain WvW and Edge of The Mists lol.
THIS IS NOT ANOTHER DUEL THREAD.
So I was reminiscing about my world pvp days in WoW and came up with an idea of how that could be implemented in GW2. With the megaserver already in place this could be easily done by giving players a choice of going to a pvp or non-pvp version of any of the world maps whenever they waypoint there and players are split by current WvW color.
Imagine if your doing your guild quests and you decide to enter a pvp zone! Map completes would be a million times more fun to me if this was in the game. Anyone else want this feature?
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Theres a good chance it might be complicated because these effects are particle effects and not just static meshes/textures like the other dye-able sections on armor.
But yeah, I’m running mine with a mix of arah weaps and armor thats dyed with abyss and some icy blue color so it looks like fire and ice on my thief. Just would be cool to be all ice!
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If this could be implemented I would be so happy. Right now the only thing that looks weird on my gear is the flame color on my CoF pieces. Blue fire, black fire, green fire, white fire! All those would look so dope.