Guild Wars 2

Fay.2357:

Dawdler.8521:

Straegen.2938:

I suspect people will be yammering on about WvW being dead in this forum next year. People have been saying WvW is dead for years. It certainly is on the decline but it will likely take a very long time to die.

WvW died when they changed the culling! Everyone knows this!

The only reason WvW still has people in it is that there is simply no other viable option for the RvR game type currently. If you want RvR, then you play GW2 WvW.

The instant another game demonstrates the ability to make and sustain a high quality RvR environment, WvW will empty faster than you can blink. So far, no game has managed this get. ESO was the only recent release that actually tried for RvR, and it was an absolute disaster for a lot of reasons. BDO is trying it, but has a lot of red flags that limit my enthusiasm. CU is still multiple years away, so we’re stuck here playing a game mode that has been neglected and eroded since launch.

I’ll agree with you on ESO, but your information on CU and BDO is way off. CU is not multiple years away from release, you must be thinking of Star Citizen. CU should be ready within a year. As for BDO, its not a RvR environment and Pearl Abyss never claimed it would ever be one. BDO is a GvG environment with open world pvp introducing events such as ‘the crimson battlefield’, castle sieges, and battling over nodes where your guild can collect the taxes. There’s no teams like RvR. It’s your guild vs every other guild, unless you manage to make a strategic alliance with another guild.

No one is forced to play a broken game. One simply chooses to play it. I suggest you research these games a bit more and a few others like Crowfall that will release in the near future. This way you’ll find you actually have viable alternatives to GW2.

Azel.4786:

WvW is dead and you are crazy if you think ANET will fix it.

Think about it, they have a team working on a major overhaul for over a year, that team comes up with Golem Bullkitten Week and now Deserted BL. If you have any glimmer of hope left in ANET that they will fix this you are beyond delusional.

That being said, this topic took a turn to more interesting discussions. Is there an MMO out there that has good WvW / RvR style of play and good action combat?

I have been looking at BlackDesertOnline, but sadly I got the region block thing as Pearl Abyss refused to license the rights for my country to Daum…. so that hope went out of the window….

Kinda iff about blade and soul cause although the combat is fun, the PvE is beyond bland and although there is the Faction thing for open world fights, it seems more on the duel format rather than massive fights like a WvW / RvR format.

So, any suggestions?

Actually, we have a member in our guild with a similar situation in regards to BDO. All you have to do is what a lot of did to play the KR version when it first came out. Download SoftEther VPN client its free and use a US, Canadian or EU VPN for the NA/EU version. You can test it out now and see if you can download the BDO character creator from the NA/EU site its also free. Make sure it’s the client in combo with the relay servers/manager.

Just so you’re aware BDO is not a RvR scene but rather a GvG scene. I’m on the fence about CU atm, not because of a subscription but it’s still not complete and only in alpha stages. It looks promising and should not be ruled out. However, its my personal preference after getting burned with anet and other games to hold out on investing in other games until I can have a chance to test them out myself or hear credible positive reviews. But honestly, I think your best bets right now would be BDO, CU, and Crowfall.

On a side note, I think it’s funny this thread is mostly about up and coming mmos. Sure proves that Anet killed WvW in GW2. If you go to a restaurant and get crappy service and served crappy food would you ever go back and give them more money? Do you honestly think they will give you better service and food next time? How many times do you have to be served crap and treated like crap before you realize the company is crap? Ya’ll need to go to a better restaurant!

See you in Black Desert!

0/10 Play mainly for WvW and the new BL maps are horrific—way too big, too much PVE and can’t find any groups to fight. Crafted all my ascended weapons and armor for Druid before Anet released it would take 400 hp to fully unlock the class—forcing me and others alike to grind for hero points on multiple classes for specializations. That, coupled with the grind to upgrade the guild hall to get our wvw buffs back and to have a guild arena to scrim in has killed this game for me.

I’m not a stranger to grind in mmos, but for a non subscription based mmo it makes no sense. I’m still trying to understand what I paid for as well. People who didn’t purchase the xpac can still enter our guild hall and the new wvw maps. I’m guessing its for the elite specs that I can’t play yet till I grind out the hero points?

I see much of the PVE population isn’t happy either. Square Enix came out with an xpac series called Abyssea that killed FFXI many years ago. It was a slow kill and it took a few years for the player base to completely fade out. Looks like you all at Anet found a way to fast kill GW2. Daum’s Black Desert NA alpha launches tomorrow and I for one can say playing the Korean version that GW2 is gonna have a hard time competing with it and Camelot Unchained. Most gamers nowadays want sandbox pve, open world pvp and competitive RvR where GUILDS and their WARS mean something!!

Bottom line, I wish I could get my money back from HoT and put it toward a game which shows promise to be fun. Huge disappointment. I really hoped this Xpac would’ve revitalized this game and kept me here for many years to come and unless something major changes I don’t think I will be coming back.

Still looking for players, guilds, commanders and new friends to join the Gommunity!

No queues here folks! Bump for the Gommunity!

What is Gates of Madness?

We are a strong, tight-knit group of WvW enthusiasts. Our community is solid, and strong, each of us watching each other’s back, and banding together for fun, and the betterment of our WvW server. We put fellowship and friendliness before everything else, but at the end of the day, we game hard, and play to win. We do many server pushes over the week, and when not we have quite a few commanders willing to take charge, and lead groups to glory. We have recently held a PvP tournament for guilds on our server which was twitch streamed and with its success we plan on making this a reoccuring event on our server. Check out some of the highlights here. http://www.twitch.tv/soggybottoms84/v/17007027

What Do We Have To Offer?

-A strong community of like minded individuals.
-A community website, http://gateofmadnessgw2.enjin.com/home
-A community teamspeak server.
-Community events, such as server pvp tournaments and ’Stomp the Map."
-Passion for the game and for winning.
-Amazing guilds full of amazing people.
-A community with a great sense of humor.
-Financial aid to guilds interested in transferring.

What Are We Looking For?

To be frank, we’re looking for numbers. While our community is very strong, we’re being paired against servers that have twice to three times the amount of players we have. While we can beat them in straight up fights, and often do, we simply need the numbers to push around the clock. We are looking for all types of guilds, PPT, Havoc and Zerg Busters. We are also looking for any experienced Commanders/Pugmanders for any and all time zones.

Population Demand Needed For Time Zones.

• Early NA/Late EU – Medium
• Prime NA – Medium
• Late NA – Medium
• Early OCX / Late NA – High
• Prime OCX – Very High
• SEA/Late OCX – Very High
• Early EU/ Late SEA – Very High
• EU Prime – Medium

Who Do You Contact?

The biggest part of our community is the sheer amount of people willing to help others out!

Kcrebel.4306 [Rich]
Trinitie.5046 [DgP]
Just Jeff.4702 [Rich]
Andy.3845 [End]
Dhargo.7569 [DgP]
Optypical.4867 [Ink]
DasMoose.7265 [Blis]
Greymarch.3291 [Art]
Damien Vyrce.6398 [FGJ]
sirjarros.4107 [VPR]
Haven’t left the page yet?

Gates of Madness would love to have you! In fact, we need you! Guilds, solo players, even an entire server, we’d love to get you on board! Please, do not hesitate to contact one of us. We have a dedicated TeamSpeak, and a member is always on to talk to you! Want to check us out? Not a problem, contact us, and we’ll be glad to have you demo our community.

Seems there’s an abundance of hate for guilds and players who like structured group pvp combat. My guild may not set up GvG’s but we do enjoy group combat and trying to bust up bigger blobs or fighting outnumbered. Yes, we do ppt to help out our server, but there’s no fun in pvding or fighting a bunch of siege humpers who refuse to come out and fight. However, there is glory in busting into a keep and fighting a group inside or in the lords room then capping.

I can’t imagine WvW without fights—whether it be open field or inside a structure. I’d hate for the new BL maps to turn into eotm 2.0 or siege wars. There have been times where my guild has built a treb inside vale camp to hit bay just to get a response and have the enemy come out and fight. This is not a useless tactic by the way. If the keep is wped people will crawl out of the keep and try to take out the treb, if they wipe they will bring more and most times an eb crew. This keeps the enemy busy on their own bl rather than them capping the keeps and towers on a servers home bl.

Fighting is not useless in WvW. If HoT kills that part of the game mode then they can expect the population that enjoys the fight aspect of WvW to leave for games such as Black Desert and Camelot Unchained when they release.

I’ve been on this server since launch in a small roaming guild and even though we’re not in one of the larger wvw guilds, all of them treat you like family. We never give up and we don’t lose morale. Everyone on this server supports one another and we work well as a team.

We have been undefeated now for 20 weeks and are looking to push into T4. We like to have fun while kicking some serious butt. If you’re looking for a new home that will appreciate your efforts and make you feel like family, please join us on Gate of Madness.

Zylonite.5913:

Its only been 9 days since they discovered the bug. Name a MMO game studio that fixes bugs under ten days?

Square Enix! But that’s probably because everyone pays a subscription. I guess our money going into the gem store isn’t enough to warrant a prompt fix by Anet.

I agree. With all these new rewards i’d like to see more achievements for wvw. I know I’ve sat sometimes for hours helping treb walls to surrounding towers in stonemist trying to help our server get the upper hand. I’ve busted down more walls and gates than I can keep track. It would sure be nice to have an achievement for that.