Guild Wars 2

We learned most of our WvW whilst forming our guild from Underworld from IRON and many of our players played with your guild on Desolation and Sanctum of Rall. We know you to be a great and thriving community of fantastic people.

Hearing you lost somebody that so many remembered is very sad news. All the best and heartfelt condolences from [SWD] (Swords of Underworld).

R.I.P. Starscream

Yesterday we spent the best part of 3 hours capturing a tier 3 keep (fortified walls, waypoint and all the gate siege). The enemy did a very good job of defending with only a few players but eventually after bashing our heads against it repeatedly we managed to finally capture it. Meanwhile the rest of the map suffered as a result of our efforts on the keep. I still find it strange that for a tier 3 keep you get the same rewards as a paper keep.

I think the rewards for capturing more upgraded keeps and towers should be multiplied depending on how upgraded the fortification is. The rewards just seem poor for the effort of resetting a fully upgraded fortification.

Also another thing that could see some improvement are the rewards given for defending keeps and towers. There is very little incentive to building and manning siege once a keep is captured because the rewards are so much greater for capturing wooden keeps and towers and what ends up happening are evil things called karma trains :P Everything wooden just gets re-flipped over and over by 50+ players under commander tags and to be honest and speaking as a commander myself, it seems the only strategy to attract large groups of players to my tag by capturing everything wooden. The incentive for defending and upgrading a keep on an enemy border is low unless within a guild environment and then guild events only last 3-4 hours on average and the keep is lost once the guild raid finishes.

If you could triple the amount of loot, WXP and karma acquired by capturing a fully upgraded keep/tower than a keep/tower with no upgrades and also increase the amount of rewards given for building siege and fending off enemies based on how much you did within the keep while the keep was contested (amount of repair used for building siege/repairing/enemy players killed within the keep) then there would be more incentive for playing WvW as it was intended to be played, instead of WvW as it is now. Many people jump on a border and look for a commander that is flipping keeps/towers that are wooden and switching borders, waiting until they are taken by the enemy and switching back again. Like a champion karma train in PvE.

Increasing rewards for menial tasks and higher tier keeps and towers kills 2 birds with one stone. Increases incentive for trying harder in WvW and lowers incentive for karma trains meaning more people follow commanders who try harder for defending and keeping what they capture.

I just want to thank WL and WLR for the epic fights last night. It was pretty boring on home border until you guys showed up! You outnumbered us quite a bit but you were gracious enough to let us regroup everytime so we could crack heads with you a few more times

After fighting you 5 or 6 times with low numbers we ran into a sizable OSC group (while searching for your lot again) and had a great fight there!

Thanks also to OSC for the epic battle at the NE sentry!

Great fights and fun all round
I know some of us are sick of this matchup but let’s try and have fun and not worry about the blob wars! We’re game for more fights!

See you on the battlefield!

- Uru

This is merely speculation and I’m not sure if it works this way but it would make sense if it did. The way I speculate server population works is this; they add all the accounts registered on a particular server together to calculate the popuation. The problem with Underworld is the server name. New players join Underworld because it’s a cool sounding server with a Very High population, play for 2 months and move on to another game but their account is still registered on the server.

I don’t know if this is true but if it is, it’s not working.

Perhaps implementing some algorithm that calculates player activity when it comes to server population would, I’m sure, create some interesting results when calculating a true server activity. The players you want on Underworld are long-term players transferring from other servers and to be honest, Underworld would be perfect for prime-time WvW guilds who afre sick of queuing up for WvW unable to get their whole guild on a borderland, however, being stuck at “Very High” population means that Underworld is incredibly undesirable for old long-term players and guilds wanting to try a new server or meta.

SWD, SWAG, TKON, GTRS, XxX, SLAY, AA and a few more guilds have left Underworld recently. That’s almost 1000 players surely. Yet the population is still stuck at Very High. ANet really needs to look at this and fix it somehow otherwise they are going to end up with servers being dead and dropping further into the abyss.

[ from an ex-Underworld player]

Dear Arena Net,

I play off-peak hours and queue for a border I think will have the shortest queues. I get late mornings to early evening off from work and this used to be fine for getting into WvW. But I’ve not played WvW now for nearly a week since the leagues started because I can not get on a border.

The thing is, most of my WvW focussed guild can not enter a border either and we’re stuck wasting our time stood about waiting for the queue to pop. We only play GW2 for the high-end, top tier WvW experience.

Something needs to happen soon to help queues. I can tolerate super lag and insane blobs. Just get me on a border QQ…

All the best and hoping for speedy progress on the overflow map, I think that may and quench my addiction for WvW and keep me from losing my sanity.

Regards

Uruzet

This thread is becoming one of the best reads I’ve had on these forums! Hilarious!!!

We Underworlders try not to take ourselves too seriously. To be honest the picture that was made about Underworld isn’t so far from the truth xD The mentality of gamers on Underworld is when the loot is good we’re all over it but when it’s bad we search elsewhere for loot. As a small and purely WvW guild we often rely on Underworld PuGs to boost our numbers, so this mentality of Underworlders can be both a good thing and a bad thing for us :P I quite like that about Underworld though. We’re a fickle bunch :P

We all found the picture very funny xD

Great matchup! Sorry for all the night capping btw. We’re concerned we may lose points if we become complacent due to the tier point system. Kudos to RoS you put up a good fight! Reset was a blast, VcY were very good so big shout out to you guys! If you’re on a home border this week, I’m looking forward to clashing blades with you again!

This is a piccy of us trying to capture your garrison. I think you can see my legendary weapon lol

Much prefer fighting FSP than any other server around our tier! You are true sportsmen and 10/10 for persistence on our bay! I’m pretty we got everyone a heap of lootbags all round for both of our sides

GvG sounds great but we Swords are quite a small guild and most GvG’s we do are 10v10.. But hopefully we can try to arrange something cool if we find the right time of day! Love your guild [PunK] btw, you got some skilled players and you’re organised!

Looking forward to more action from you guys Same time tomorrow (hopefully) – Meet you at our bay :P

30 into Spite, Runes of the Necromancer and Master of Terror trait gives 100% Fear duration in sPvP.

Well Drakkar Lake showed their true colours just now. Turned up on our border with a 60 man zerg to exploit the bug of us not being able to place any defensive siege against 12 golems. They had AC’s rams as well to boot. Not one AC/cata/treb was placed by Underworld BECAUSE OF THE BUG!

You really did it this time ANet. Well done to Drakkar Lake /clap. Guess we’re too sporting and mindful to do the same to you… Exploiters lololol

The recent nerf to confusion and blinding befuddlements (a completely useless trait now) has forced me to give up with mesmer now.. Tried my mesmer for 8 hours in WvW yesterday using 4 different gear sets and multiple different builds. Can’t seem to find a ZvZ build that is fun to play anymore. I’m so upset about the recent patch that I don’t even care about what they added.

Sorry for moaning but it’s how I feel about it and it needs to be said.

You may want to take serious look at Underworld. The community is really great here and we have some really dedicated WvW players. Our server at the moment is learning rapidly in terms of zerg movement and ZvZ.

Our alliance is currently in the process of restructuring, so now may be a great time to transfer! We’re currently up against 2 german servers that have very strong night capping zergs and we’re outmanned most of the time but we’re still having a lot of fun and being organised about it! The PuG’s aren’t so bad here as they used to be :P

Everyone is learning a lot here at the moment! This is the highest we’ve ever been and there are few purely WvW guilds here, (only 4 atm). These 4 are extremely well organised and many other large guilds have many dedicated WvW’ers that have been playing here since the release. 80% of our WvW’ers use the same global teamspeak! We barely ever get queues on borderlands. We’re hoping new WvW guilds will join us

Well I’ll be saying goodbye to my condition mesmer when the patch notes come out. Only viable build for mesmers that’s fun to play, well balanced, survivable and puts out nice damage in WvW is a condition mesmer and now their slashing Confusion damage in half! I’ve tried condition mesmer in sPvP and it doesn’t work, never will..

Only build mesmers can use in WvW now are power builds (fail GC shatter builds, no good in large fights, or boring PVT).

Won’t be playing my mesmer again any time soon. Make the most of your confusion mesmers now guys, only a few hours left…

Underworld server is so much fun at the moment, we’re rising up very quickly and it’s very exciting. Every higher tier we enter seems to be getting more fun with new challenges and stronger opponents! Having great fun fighting you germans

Was a great fight today we had with Dzagonur!
Going to miss fighting you guys, if we move up a tier
If anything is like this week though, think I’m going to have to invest in a larger inventory..

Cheers!

Regards – Uruga Adamant (Guardian)/Uazet (Warrior)