Guild Wars 2

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/55030-pvp-mystic-forge-recipes/

Signed. +11111!!!!!!!!

BishopX.6453:

name me a game where the thief class has not been overpowered at one point the best class hands down in the game.
name me a game where the bottom tier class has EVER at any point been the rogue class ?

2001- DAOC, remember when nightblades could backstab with a 2handed axe and not lose stealth if they killed you in 1 shot…. but since it was with a TWO HANDED AXE… they could kill anyone that wasnt a tank or healer outright. Remember IWINfiltrators?

2004- World of warcraft – Rogues

2006- Warhammer online Witch elves, pbaoe 4 sec knockdown on a 10 sec timer for a class that can 2 shot you is fair right?
How about burnawayLOLs? a finisher that put a dot on the target that ticked for 15% of your life per tic..

2009- Rift: planes of telara Launch: Sabotours.. 1 shot ANY CLASS, with 8 sec of prep time bombs on them, no counter.
Marksman Hey lets give a ranged class the ability to aoe life leach+ heal debuff … thus making a perma heal debuff on everyone and turning the rogue IMMORTAL because they leach 40% of alll healing of everyone in the scenario
Nightblades in general

i can name you MANY games that got the melee healer and didnt make it overpowered. you only remember wow
I remember DAOC monk (LOL) daoc warden daoc aug healer daoc valewalker, daoc valkery were FAR from op.

+1.

I’ve been playing tank build classes since 1997 starting with UO. I’ve played pretty much every major MMORPG that had a strong PvP element. UO, DAOC, WAR, Lineage, Lineage 2, GW, AION, TERA, Ragnarok, TSW, WOW, and more…

I can honestly say that 90% of these games have catered to the DPS crowd. Whether that is ranged or stealth DPS. Every prepubescent child and kitten with an kitten complex want nothing than to simply “zomg wtf BBQ pwn ju pew pew n00b” faceroll people and feel entitled to it. These are the same idiots who think they’re cool if they have a katana or think they’re some uber kittening ninja or sniper. They’re probably the same kiddies who spawn camp and play snipers in FPS’. lol

Anyways… Pretty much anyone who didnt roll a stealther or glass cannon was crap back in the day. Support classes such as tanks and healers were utterly useless in PvP 9/10 times. Games have finally started making these play styles useful in PvP. First with healers and now in recent years tanks have become useful.

With this change now all the entitled kiddies are crying fowl. Personally the only game I thought had good PvP tanks was DAOC, but it also had some of the most OP stealthers with the Infiltrator and pretty much all the ranged DPS could 2 shot you. WAR also had pretty good tanks, but once again the assassin classes would literally kitten you in seconds. In WOW rogues would stun lock you into oblivion and you might as well go make dinner while you get your salad tossed. In L2 a rogue could drop you to 1 HP instantly via one of their stupid kitten class mechanics if they were lucky.

I can sit here and run down pretty much any rogue/assassin class from all the games I’ve played and explain why having them in a game is usually a bad idea… Stealth is a lame kitten cheap mechanic. Someone being 100% invis right next to you in the open during the day is kitten Being able to pop stealth while in combat = kitten Being able to 2 shot someone while invis = kitten You catch my drift.

I’m an American stationed in Germany with the US Army. I play on Euro servers due to the time zone issue.

When I lived in the states I played with Europeans and never complained. Was actually nice to have people online when I played late nights.

Anyways, I think what I’m getting at is just deal with it and if it’s that big of an issue, change servers?

Haku.5068:

The issue is that bunkers need to die 1v1.

Really? And who the kitten are you to say who should lose a 1v1?

Daays.4317:

@Valador

Tank classes with passive damage reflect are the easiest class to play in any game. You make your worst player play this type of class because it’s impossible to screw up. You just sit there and people kill themselves on you.

And now you want sPvP to turn into a zerg vs zerg?

Ironic, coming for someone who doesn’t want “mindless” things in the game.

How long have you been playing these kind of games? Because I’ve been playing tank type toons as my main since 1997, and I’ve seen tanks in PvP go from utterly useless to well designed, but never truly OP and I’ve played a butt load of major MMO titles. I couldn’t care less if they totally removed retaliation, as I don’t like the concept, as long as the survivability stays.

Hardly any games have done the tank/defense archetype any justice… People kittening complain if they do any sort of damage because their argument is “zomg they’re supposed to take dmg, not deal it!!” and then they turn around and cry “zomg my leet pew pew skills cant kill a tank!! nerf!!” You can’t force anyone to attack a defensive built toon, so you gotta give them something to be useful… And I guess due to poor design, that use is to control points on the map…

Anyways, sPvP as it is now, is pretty much zerg vs. zerg from what I’ve seen. There’s no coordination and people pretty much just zerg around from node to node. They cap a point, and then run back to retake the one they just lost because no one wants to defend…

If you don’t run with your zerg you get gang banged by the enemy zerg… Nothing about a sPvP match full of randoms says tactical.

Angry Flying Squirrel.3041:

Sorry but I like tactics in my pvp. Don’t want brain dead DM.

Tactics in a PUG sPvP match? Riiiiiight. Everyone pretty much goes where they want or zerg around from node to node, with no concept of defense. Sometimes stopping to chase that one random enemy around the map.

Angry Flying Squirrel.3041:

Ya you can do it but not before the other team shows up to kills you. And so the bunker wins.

Remove this horrible control the node game mode and problem solved…

Rather see the sPvP maps replaced with single keep zones, like the ones in DAoC. Smaller than the WvW area, but bigger than the tiny maps we have now. No people trying to flex their kitten and trying to outscore everyone on their team, but an actual group effort to benefit their realm, in this case server…

Wolfe.3097:

@Valador, thats not the impression i got at all.

rather what i got. is bunker is simply out of line atm. (and with the right build it is). not by a huge, but enough that its noticeable.

also if you want to talk counters.

bunker beats burst, burst beats sustained (conditions), sustained beats bunker.

Out of line? I get my salad tossed by condition build toons, i.e. Necros, who have half a brain. As you stated yourself, I think bunker should beat burst and condition should beat bunker. I don’t think any glass cannon has a leg to stand on whining about it… so hopefully this guy simply suffers from horrible wording and isn’t try to say burst trumps bunker.

I guarantee ANet is going to eventually hate themselves for not going with the “holy trinity” system. Because now instead of 3 facets to look at, now they’re going to be juggling a ton and it’s going to be a nonstop roller coaster of balancing problems.

Sprawl.3891:

so the counter to them is being countered by them. aka balance problem. defensive builds are important, they help establish strategies. but they are als determining the entire meta right know.

This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard and I’m quite scared to hear this coming from someone with the ability to make changes…

So how is the burst build the counter to the bunker? How come the bunker build isnt the counter to the burst build?

I guess this idiot rolls glass cannons in all the games hes played and wants to zomg wtf bbq pwn ju pew pew steam roll everything by smashing his face into his hotbar of mindless DPS skills and feels entitled to free kills. I cannot stand people of that mindset.

Heaven forbid people choose to play a thinking mans role and choose to go support and not follow the crowd of mindless DPS zerglings.

I guess this game is going to end up an even bigger clusterkitten of DPS being slung around mindlessly and tactics/strategy can just go out the window… While they’re at it, might as well dumb down sPvP even more by removing the current game type for team deathmatch. Oh, guess you can add crosshairs and make the game mandatory first person view as well. Just sayin…

Here’s an example of some good armor skins… I’ll use screenshots of my toons from Lineage 2 and TERA, since they both have ties to NC Soft, which published GW2… they also happen to be my two favorite armor sets of all time, since I started back in 1997 with UO…

Also attached a pic of the horrible looking armor that I see everywhere in GW2… There are a few decent looking PIECES of armor in GW2 (as in mix matching armors to get ok looking sets), but the only real set that even looks like they spent effort on designing was the T3 culture sets.

Luisedgm.2375:

karma sets from orr.

I disagree. They look horrible and covered in spikes. And every set looks the same…

As far as the rest -
http://www.gw2armor.com/human/male/heavy.php

Seriously? I’ve seen better looking armor models in games that have been out for years… For it being 2012, 15 years after these games took off, and this is really the best I have to look at?

I guess I’m just disappointed. You either look like a lowbie hobo, or just plain kitten and those with deep pockets can look cool and as their profession intended.

Plunder.8195:

Those are your T1 and T2 cultural armors/skins. Just use your transformation stones.

T1 and T2 both look like kitten…

I’m sure this has been beaten to death, but there is no justification for the retardedly high prices for T3 culture armor…

T1 and T2 sets can both be purchased for less than 10g, but the T3 stuff is like kittening 117g.

How do you justify this giant kitten gap?

To be honest, I only want the armor for the looks, because 90% of the armor in this game looks like crap and the one set that I like costs the equivalent to hundreds of real life dollars in gold.

If you insist on keeping this armor stupid expensive, atleast consider giving us some cheaper skins to use that resemble the culture armor.

OR

Give us some better looking armor, rather than reusing the same ugly kitten skin from the Orr temple karma vendors…

@Leper,

You can look at pretty much all the armor skins using the preview option on the armor in the PvP locker.

Ok, I’ll try to keep this as short as I can.

I’m 27 years old and married. Currently serving in the US Army and stationed in Germany. I’ve been actively PvPing since 1997, starting with Ultima Online.

I’ve played pretty much every main title since UO. A few games – EQ, DAOC, Lineage 2, WOW, WAR, TERA and now GW2.

I’m looking for a guild that likes to compete in PvP/WvW. However, I’m not looking for nazi’s who’re going to control everyone’s builds. I’m too old to put up with immature people and elitist idiots. I know my play style and how I’m best utilized, so don’t try to conform me to some elitist mentality on how to play _ class.

I’m a team player. I like to support the team and be that clutch player that facilitates the win and controls the battle. Hence why I’ve been playing tank support toons since 1997.

If you’re a North American or English speaking European guild, and you want me in your guild, please drop me a line. Thanks.

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