Guild Master [AFS] Alliance of the Forgotten Seas
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Guild Master [AFS] Alliance of the Forgotten Seas
Your neighborhood friendly Hyade of course Biffels, and there was nothing hypocritical in that entire post. There are 90+ people on db that think everything is just peachy, and about 5 emp on the forums trying to make this into the next Y2K.
Also, if you do not think Oxy’s account is misleading, then you have inaccurate info and should get it from someone who was actually there.
I was actually there for this whole thing and spent a better half of my weekend, when I could’ve been boozing excessively, to deal with this. And me, being a Officer of EMP, can attest to Oxy’s post and that it is accurate.
Grekkz, that is your perspective of what i should have done but unfortunately nothing is free in this life, and i’m just trying to recoup my losses for ts & site (and the kickstart thing). I know i’m wrong about taunting your members & i’m sorry about that, i hope there will be no more interaction between me & AFS except when we meet in battle in the future.
Hmm I don’t recall in any of my own typing that I wanted an apology.
i also don’t recall suggesting anything for you to do. If you read those points I wrote carefully in the 2nd post you would realize that it was a statement made about your character.
What I’m trying to do is to warn people of who you really are.
Someone who has no integrity, back stab you if you turn around and finally bluntly lie to your face when you least expect.
Your right, nothing is free. Therefore the cost of your actions are now reflected by my statements.
Your probably someone which shouldn’t be easily trusted with responsibilities like say running a guild.
In any case, no hard feelings. I hope you enjoy your stay with DB, and they welcome you open arms.
Guild Master [AFS] Alliance of the Forgotten Seas
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Oh and to be fair with Oxy. Dude we have never met before nor have we spoken to each other. I humbly respect you for your cleaning the crap off someone else’s mistake.
Guild Master [AFS] Alliance of the Forgotten Seas
Anyways to the Points:
20g out of 100g:
well I can also say in actual fact it was out of 40g and not 100g. So he basically took 50% of what was in our guild bank.
20g was used as compensation for upgrading, buying influence, kick start the guild, make a website and get a teamspeak server :
if I recalled didn’t you volunteered to do these things on your own accord? I didn’t realize if someone was to volunteer for something I would have to pay them. My brain must have not been working that particular day.
Pestering Grekkz to start up:
eh this basically means you volunteered and wanted to do it without any reward right ?
I guess my own method of going slow and steady was no match for your “charge everything” mentality. Kind of like how we both have differences in commanding.
20g was compensation for waste of time:
you mean to say you didn’t care about the guild yet wanted to spend money on it? I don’t quite understand that. That doesn’t match up with what you said previously as you pestered me about starting something, yet you said it was compensation for something you did. Doesn’t that mean your taking the money out of spite anyways, then now your saying it was for time wasted? Hmm I’m confused…I guess you really are trying to find reasons to justify your actions.
You paid back things which you owe others in the guild:
isn’t that your own personal agenda and not the guilds ? I mean hell if I owe someone 40 ectos I would definitely pay them back. But if I owe the guild 100 ectos and I give 40 of those ectos to the members in the guild…that doesn’t mean I paid back those 100 ectos to my guild. Probably mean I’m very good at borrowing and not returning.
Shame on deadly shield:
I agree…shame on deadly for sharing important information to the public (slaps hand) you bad person…do not share any more info on the forums so people can enjoy a good story.
Lowblow on you:
hmm should I post the various things you typed to my officers when they approached you about the gold in the past? Or about the various taunts you made at my officers cause you couldn’t taunt me? I mean I took screen captures of various terrain which has your chat on it. I believe that’s also called a lowblow right?
400g not 20g:
Hmm I don’t think it’s a matter of money…more of integrity…hell I don’t believe I’m a saint..my guild loves me because I’m not one.
An encounter in bay:
Hmm maybe I should post up those screenshots, I mean they do show alot of bay scenery and you taunting my officers constantly.
Refund you for everything:
Why?
Grekkz made me lose 15g:
Dam, I must have super powers that can force people to take 15g out of their own pockets to place into others part of my own….dam I’m stupid.
Because he misspelled someone’s name:
Eh isn’t that your own carelessness? The guy was back then coron bale, a good friend from SoR and someone whom AFS has worked closely with in the past. Why would I miss spell a friends name when I talk to the guy often. Since the gold was sent to the wrong person no one benefited except for the guy that was spelled maybe coran lol?
50g given away from your pocket to someone else:
Man my amazing powers must be working overtime…I need to make sure I send those gold my way in future.
I think that’s basically all things I’ve have to highlight, some of which are quite funny I have to say and I apologize for my sarcasm.
I would like to apologize also on my guilds behalf for being involved in these matters as we all felt that these things are for the benefit of the community.
We do not like to single out individuals nor do we enjoy ridiculing of others. Therefore we hope that the matter is resolved and that no further involvement is done by AFS.
See you guys in WvW.
Guild Master [AFS] Alliance of the Forgotten Seas
Well first off, i would like oxy to clear my name out in establishing that i never took a single gold from EMP guild bank when i made the decision to move to db through the logs, for the AFS accusation, yes i did took 20g out of the 100g that was in the guild bank during that time, i was the one who created the guild & bought drinks for a week influence buff which is 20g to kickstart AFS upgrades & hosting the guild website and teamspeak 3 server, (heck if i didnt keep pestering grekkz to go on with this idea, he would probably just stayed in LYN doing his malaysian alliance thingy) if taking 20g is considered stealing for you then to me its like a refund back for me for wasting time in a guild that doesn’t see eye to eye with me. Heck i even paid back all the afs members that i borrowed money from, ask roroall. And deadly shame on you for bringing a stuff that was months ago public just to take a lowblow on me & making it sound like i emptied 400g worth of gbank gold. I’ve placed the AFS chapter behind me few months ago after that encounter at bay.
And who’s to say if i left AFS without the 20g, you guys would have refund me, And this one time grekkz made me lose 15g cause he misspell a guys name who we were donating to, and i sponsored an ally of afs, cant remember his name, i’m fairly sure grekkz wouldnt deny this, i gave 50g for that ally for his commander tag from my own pocket cause i didnt want to waste AFS funds, would AFS refund me all those? NO cause apparently i’m the bad guy who is just intent on causing AFS destruction. Well i’m putting a fullstop here for this problem with AFS. Go ahead if you to post more stuff about me, only those who were with me know how things went.
IF 6 months in EMP, leading daily for 6 – 18 hours a day gets me all this kitten in JQ, then i’m glad i left JQ and placed it all behind.
Well this is an interesting thread. I was extremely reluctant to even drop a message on this thread however it seems that my character (Grekkz) was mentioned a few times a few pages ago and this thread was just recently brought to my attention..(dam I hate work)
However I felt I must personally clarify certain things with the public here, as to be fair with my current members in the guild and also for future members.
AFS was and always is a small/medium sized guild with a lot of players who love WvW. With recent events on SoS we have now made SoR our new home( thank you)
We are also regretful of leaving SoS behind and basically didn’t want to leave until the very last moment ( and I still refrain from leaving, ask my guild mates), even then the move was difficult with myself not being able to come online and assisting my guild mates in the xfer.
Transferring was never an easy choice and no guild should be forced into a corner to choose their new home. It is a tiring and stupid process which drains and splinters any strong guild (guilds who have xfer b4 know this well)
I personally believe that the decision for EMP wasn’t a prompt one and a lot of thought was put into place before they decided. In the regard AFS would have been willing to give them 20g( spent about 300g to xfer to SoR so sorry for the small amount) for their start up in DB if they asked from us.
However it seems like this isn’t the case anymore and EMP members are going back to JQ? That’s very unfortunate.
In any case I believe that both Christina Lee and Rawnoodles have their reasons for w/e happen and I’m sure they are very sound reasons.
I do however feel that I would to highlight on some key points which I felt were little unfairly said by CLee ( as he is known now).
This is all attain to the above quotes and therefore if anyone wants to read up please by all means
I can’t find everything into this post so ill make a second with my points
Guild Master [AFS] Alliance of the Forgotten Seas
Hello guys. we sincerely appreciate all your responses. We have decided to move to SoR on the 8th of April.
happy to have you guys on SoR
hope this isn’t an april fools joke or anything!!
We would have been the april fools not to go to SoR. We look forward to working with you guys on the battlefield.
Nothing has been finalized yet.
Guild Master [AFS] Alliance of the Forgotten Seas
Thank you for the overwhelming number of responses, have decided to wait until after the 26th March patch and then discuss our options within the guild. Once we have decided we will then contact the servers which we will be interested in joining. For now feel free to continue posting on this thread as we will definitely read up on your suggestions.
Again, we thank you for all your prompt responses.
Guild Master [AFS] Alliance of the Forgotten Seas
Alliance of the Forgotten Seas is a South East Asian guild that’s focused on World vs World.
Where are we from?
We are currently located in Sea of Sorrows, however have decided to move on from this server due to recent events that happen to the server.
Who is AFS?
We are a small guild with about 300 members currently and field around 20-30 people during our primetime on weekdays while during weekends we have atleast 50 people on before, during and after our primetime.
What is AFS?
We are not like other larger guilds where instead of zerging down our enemies, we preffer to keep our precense on field as low as possible and perform behind enemy lines and play with our enemy’s minds. To those who have played with us know how well we do just that.
What kind of server are we looking for?
Although many have asked or requested us to speak with thier server representatives, we preffer to make things simple and only request three things from any server that is interested in our services.
1.List the number of Active SEA guilds in your server.
2.Give examples of how those guilds have worked together in the past (for example produce a short 3-5 min video of yourselves).
3.Show us examples of how that server’s community is Strong and supportive of the guilds which participate in WvW for them.
AFS does not wish to be offered gold/money when we decide on transfering to a new server, we however wish for that community of that server to cooperate with us on the move when it happens.
Please do not whisper/mail me ingame, as my inbox ingame has limited space.
If you wish to ask questions or setup a meeting with myself and my officers you can post it here.
Thank you for your time in reading this, we hope that this clarifies all the various questions that have been asked of us.
Guild Master [AFS] Alliance of the Forgotten Seas
Alliance of the Forgotten Seas is a South East Asian guild that’s focused on World vs World.
Where are we from?
We are currently located in Sea of Sorrows, however have decided to move on from this server due to recent events that happen to the server.
Who is AFS?
We are a small guild with about 300 members currently and field around 20-30 people during our primetime on weekdays while during weekends we have atleast 50 people on before, during and after our primetime.
What is AFS?
We are not like other larger guilds where instead of zerging down our enemies, we preffer to keep our precense on field as low as possible and perform behind enemy lines and play with our enemy’s minds. To those who have played with us know how well we do just that.
What kind of server are we looking for?
Although many have asked or requested us to speak with thier server representatives, we preffer to make things simple and only request three things from any server that is interested in our services.
- List the number of Active SEA guilds in your server.
- Give examples of how those guilds have worked together in the past (for example produce a short 3-5 min video of yourselves).
- Show us examples of how that server’s community is Strong and supportive of the guilds which participate in WvW for them.
AFS does not wish to be offered gold/money when we decide on transfering to a new server, we however wish for that community of that server to cooperate with us on the move when it happens.
Please do not whisper/mail me ingame, as my inbox ingame has limited space.
If you wish to ask questions or setup a meeting with myself and my officers you can post it here.
Thank you for your time in reading this, we hope that this clarifies all the various questions that have been asked of us.
Guild Master [AFS] Alliance of the Forgotten Seas
Home World: Sea of Sorrows
Guild Name: Alliance of the Forgotten Seas
In-Game Contact: Blindhippy, Grekkz, Sync Castallion
Focus: WvW, PvE
Quick Notes:
Sub guild of LYN, OWR.
Looking for active South East Asian Players, Australians or anyone within the +8 Gmt timezone.
We need able members to continue our war efforts in SoS.
All interested parties may procceed to mailing those names listed above.
Guild Master [AFS] Alliance of the Forgotten Seas