Guild Wars 2

I know they will be turning profit on me, gonna buy two character slots every month.
The game promotes Alts, no, screw that, you don’t have alts in this game, you have a character list that only gets bigger.

If you had actual skill in the first place, it WOULD be relaxing to play.
This game has to be one of the easiest MMORPGs I have ever played, you want real pain? Go play FFXI, don’t even argue with me, before you earn the right to complain about an MMORPGs difficulty you will go experience true pain to get yourself some perspective.

The JOURNEY is the destination, and that is even moreso for MMORPGs, the fun comes from the struggle. Don’t even worry about when you hit levelcap, that concern is for a game like WoW, but in GW2 you concern yourself with the adventure before you.

I would like to get a list of the average FPS everyone is getting while playing the game, feel free to add your computer specs in the post, maybe if we all get a good perspective on what our fellow players are having to deal with, we can take stock in how better off we may or may not be.

Haters gonna hate, and said haters can go play some other sissy race :P

This guy is just trolling -__-

Dreleth.3647:

Hey! A fellow GW2 Furry (<— Dragon, rawr!)

Your story is similar, except with a couple close friends recommending it to me during the beta. All I could say was “GW2 can’t be that good, and it’s only in beta. It’s just going to be another WoW clone like the rest.” Man, was I wrong.

My MMO experience comes from 6 years of playing WoW, 2 years of EQ, and 1 year of FF XI. I’m more of a PvPer when it comes to games, which all I did in WoW was do arena’s everyday. When Blizzard announced MoP, and I heard all of the other MMO’s starting to die, I lost hope in all of the MMORPG’s.

I heard GW2’s PvP was going to be seperate from PvE, and that it was going to be more skill-based and less based off of team composition (the dreaded RMP/RLS in WoW). So I decided to dump 60 bucks on a game that I wasn’t sure about and I was instantly sucked into the game right when I created my charr mesmer.

The exploration, story missions, awesome characters (I love most of the charr characters, they have awesome personalities. <3 Dinky), fun and exciting sPvP/WvW. GW2 has really sucked me back into the MMORPG scene, and I’m glad.

Keep up the good work ArenaNet.

-Dreleth

I think FFXI still holds up because it has the spirit of Final Fantasy in it, but the time, there just isn’t the time anymore, and I’m glad I got to beat Chains of Promathia before i had to quit

theerrantventure.9185:

Wooo EQ. I started that in High School. Played a Dwarf Paladin that never reached max level. Paladins were worthless in EQ. I gave up when WoW came out and did my time bleeding money to Blizzard. I have an off again on again relationship with EVE Online and I did play SWTOR for 1 month before I lost interest.

Now, marriage, full time work and starting a family mean my MMO time is limited to a couple hours a night at best during the week and the same on weekends unless the little one takes a long nap.

Most games are just a rush to level cap then raiding for gear, with weak stories and little or no character depth. GW2 defies that. I love that I can create a character with depth in a living breathing world. The capitol cities in GW2 are all I wanted and expected them to be in a game like WoW but were never delivered, until now.

I’ve had the game a week now and don’t have a character over 10 and 5 full slots. The game is so big and new that I haven’t yet decided which of my characters to begin as my ‘main.’

I don’t buy many video games (really only an occasional Steam purchase as I own no current game consoles) but I would consider this $60 well spent. I know I will get hours and hours of play out of GW2. Heck, even my wife just started playing!

I know the game is being lambasted by the hardcore crowd. They have their right to voice the flaws. However for us casual folks, the game feels right. ANet will work out the bugs in time. It’s a game, there’s no rush.

Dude whoever says this game isn’t hardcore needs to check themselves, I just did AC and it almost made me cry

Interesting update, I just ramped all of my video cards driver settings to MAX QUALITY!
And Ill be dipped, i got MORE FPS and a SMOOTHER gameplay experience! I thought ‘Performance’ woulda gotten me more FPS….its wild man.

However the waterfalls in the Ascalon Catacombs central room are some kind of buggy particle effect that sucks down FPS pretty bad, the fight with the king was around, what, like 30-40 FPS, everywhere else in the dungeon was a respectable 50 to 60, and now in the feild im getting 50-60, and when zerging a gate in WvWvW im up to 25 FPS!!!

This has made my day, still needs work, but i got my game to look supah shiny and run a little better

Dude what did this guy even do?
How can anyone rustle your jimmies in this game when its almost impossible to grief someone in the game

Charr women may smell like rotten fish but they are still quite snuggly

I would really like to see an admin to come in and let us know if this would get us banned, I am curious, but not foolhardy enough to try it and get bannhammered

Raf.1078:

Rp’ing on the fly?….fun…but…but…type and fight?? I usually die then…but, hey if you’re down..good time to rp :P

I type out /say dialogue as i fight all the time, its easy

Swedemon.4670:

If I were you I’d try disabling audio at different levels. Adjust resolutions, try to zero in on what is the limiting factor. Obviously, drop shadows to none, that usually has a large impact on my experience and it appears (and from what I’ve read) it is mostly CPU bound.

Adjust your graphics software settings to see how it impacts the game, and anything else that comes into play from start to finish.

I keep shadows on low, because to be honest the game is so fast paced you don’t need dynamic shadows for it to look good

Personally not an atheist, I line up with the philosophy of God never directly taking a hand in anything, but I absolutely love playing as Charr, I’m going to buy 8 extra slots eventually so i can have one of each class

I just want to know how you screw up something like this. Now see I am an electrical engineer so I don’t understand the complexities of coding as much as I understand how a high power transformer uses electromagnetic field coils to step up power, but there are MMOs that do this the RIGHT way at launch.

DaveK.1023:

Lyuben is pushing humans because he doesn’t like cute kitties. Allergy or something. :-)

I wouldn’t exchange my furry monster for anything else. He looks awesome in his trenchcoat. Honestly all that metal plating is not doing them justice.

Charrs in Trench Coats > The Space Pope

I love playing my Asura…gnome goblin thing whatever, and using the exclamation “My Ears”

Failsociety.4569:

On my Char Guardian, I ran up to a downed player and said, “There, there son. Relax while I bandage your wounds”

He Replied with “Thank you” when he got up he called me a dumbkitten and ran off.

hah, hes just jelly of how much fun your having, one time I got so into /say Role play dialogue that someone swore I was either a GM or an NPC

Rizzy.8293:

try getting this to flow with tarnished coasters

Is that a server I dunno about?
Is it a zone? Cause I think I heard about the tarnish coast being a very chaotic endgame zone.

Oh I love the content the game had but it was just so sub-par overall, I don’t care if 2.0 makes it more ‘sellout’ or ‘mainstream’ I just want it to be addictive to play, If i spend time on a game and I regretted time lost, then the game is not doing its job.

And I swear to the Space Pope if I don’t see some HDL drops soon I will rip out my own teeth.

Swedemon.4670:

Yeah that’s screwed up. I’d be very curious if someone with your exact rig is playing fine, and then to find out what is different… It could be something you’d normally unsuspect like the power supply is insufficient or an audio driver is bottlenecking the game.

Dude I totally relate to ‘audio driver bottle necking the game’ holy crap I tried to play Champions Online a year ago but NOPE.avi my motherboards sound card model was specifically incompatible with the combo of 64 bit version of WinXP an CO, so it muted my audio and send me into 10 fps hell.

AND I PAID FOR THAT GAME WHEN IT WASN’T FREE.

Eh, it doesn’t look THAT bad

Failsociety.4569:

VormundGeist.3876:

Failsociety.4569:

Amen brother! XIV is kickingkitten and simply cannot wait til Reborn. I still play as well on Besaid!

My character is based in Gungir or however you spell it.
Regardless I hope XIVs Devs are keeping a close eye on GW2s game mechanics, they may be able to learn some lessons and give some of the good ideas a ‘Final Fantasy’ spin

Honestly, been playing MMOs for about 11 years now, I am 31. If XIV doesn’t fit my bill (which been playing since Alpha even in it’s crap state til now) I think it’s time to put aside the genre altogether. They just don’t make good games like old EQ, XI anymore.

I am more then certain we will be pleased with 2.0 after having our senses dulled to a blunt point for the last two years of the current game

Swedemon.4670:

Agreed, but that gets into a number of other factors. The same situations folks are encountering in the low fps thread even for high-end intel CPU’s with high end GPU’s.

Normally, that indicates a bottleneck probably due to a hardware or driver unrelated to the CPU.

Very true, I just wish an awesome game could awesomely run 100% of the time, I would be completely satisfied with a steady 50 FPS

Oh and how screwed up is it that when i set everything to the lowest settings I still get the same exact performance dips?

Knote.2904:

I don’t really roleplay much, but whenever someone is downed or dies I get overly emotional as I try to save them from the brink of death.

Always fun.

Another example of how basic game play mechanics can transform into indirect and immerse Role play

Failsociety.4569:

Amen brother! XIV is kickingkitten and simply cannot wait til Reborn. I still play as well on Besaid!

My character is based in Gungir or however you spell it.
Regardless I hope XIVs Devs are keeping a close eye on GW2s game mechanics, they may be able to learn some lessons and give some of the good ideas a ‘Final Fantasy’ spin

Swagman.9013:

I don’t see the necessity for the why it’s fun part, of course it’s fun!

I’ve had many instances of it happening, one which was rather strange, I afk’d in LA one time on a pedestal around the fountain. I was looking quite dapper in my pink tophat and town clothes. And when I came back from afk there was 3 people dancing around me with no clothes on!

A very interesting conversation took place.

Hah that does sound interesting

Knote.2904:

VormundGeist.3876:

Knote.2904:

vidiotking.1928:

VormundGeist.3876:

Knote.2904:

VormundGeist.3876:

Knote.2904:

As a 23 year old who also started with Everquest (thanks dad).

/Fistbump

/Fistbump indeed
What other MMOs have you been through?

Went from EQ —> DAoC (my irresponsible dad pulled me out of school early for release) --> WoW (on and off for years with tons of other MMO’s in between)

Cool, Ive been around too many to count honestly, I know that somewhere in the list is FFXI though, LOVED that one

SWG>EQ>GW2.

After that mmo’s, in my book, become pretty anonymous. Games like Shadowbane, Vanguard, Asherons call 1 &2, Rift, WoW, AoC, WAR, and Aion all become muddled in my mind.

Ooooh I forgot about Vanguard. God I loved that one. I wish it didn’t bomb so hard on release. I remember trying it out multiple times years later and see it still barely hanging on lol.

Didn’t Vanguard kinda flop because the whole, terraform and creating towns thing got kinda super tedious?

You’re talking of a completely different game. There was no terraforming or town creating lol.

Vanguard was meant to be a predecessor to the old school Everquest 1. The world was absolutely, disgustingly MASSIVE and awesome. The crafting was the most complex, in depth, realistic, and fun I’ve seen in any game ever (there was even a completely different leveling system for each char 1-80 Adventurer, Crafting, and Diplomat). The classes were fun, diverse enough and had their own interesting class mechanics.

The game, as he said, was rushed out and buggy beyond belief and just bled players which doomed the game. SOE finally picked it up and “Saved” it by fixing a ton of things and had a small team pumping out raid content and stuff. But they also never advertised it or helped it grow again. I weep to this day.

OH!…huh…What game was I thinking about? There was an MMO that was billed to have totally unique servers because player actions created towns and stuff across a giant map (that was empty at a servers conception)

Caedmon.6798:

Yesterday i got someone who revived me saying Get Up Soldier And Give them Hell !..something like that..was funny though.I myself dont really roleplay..well if i do its just me myself and i fantasizing in my own head.

That’s a cool way to do it, but in the end the games strongest asset is letting your character have a deeper interaction with the world itself, allowing role playing to be 80% expressed simply by performing in an event or doing something that would be considered game play.

Knote.2904:

vidiotking.1928:

VormundGeist.3876:

Knote.2904:

VormundGeist.3876:

Knote.2904:

As a 23 year old who also started with Everquest (thanks dad).

/Fistbump

/Fistbump indeed
What other MMOs have you been through?

Went from EQ —> DAoC (my irresponsible dad pulled me out of school early for release) --> WoW (on and off for years with tons of other MMO’s in between)

Cool, Ive been around too many to count honestly, I know that somewhere in the list is FFXI though, LOVED that one

SWG>EQ>GW2.

After that mmo’s, in my book, become pretty anonymous. Games like Shadowbane, Vanguard, Asherons call 1 &2, Rift, WoW, AoC, WAR, and Aion all become muddled in my mind.

Ooooh I forgot about Vanguard. God I loved that one. I wish it didn’t bomb so hard on release. I remember trying it out multiple times years later and see it still barely hanging on lol.

Didn’t Vanguard kinda flop because the whole, terraform and creating towns thing got kinda super tedious?

Honestly the game flows so well that it isn’t that hard to Roleplay
My friends and I just talk in /say what our characters would normaly say in context of a situation.

My coolest moment was during battle on my elementalist, I was conjuring a lava axe and said

“Melista! Take this!”

and targeted the second axe to spawn near her to use.

It was a pretty wild experience.

How do you other RPers get your imagination on?

KrgWOW.9126:

Only with AMD CPUS? hahahahaha
i want to know when they will improve EVERYTHING about performance

Indeed I would like to know the same, the game runs pretty bad.

Now I know there are folks worse off then me, but I honestly think my FPS should stop dipping so often to 30-40 range and down to 20 when zerging, there are ways to scale LOD when there is a ton of action going on, many MMOs have accomplished this sort of optimization

Knote.2904:

VormundGeist.3876:

Knote.2904:

As a 23 year old who also started with Everquest (thanks dad).

/Fistbump

/Fistbump indeed
What other MMOs have you been through?

Went from EQ —> DAoC (my irresponsible dad pulled me out of school early for release) --> WoW (on and off for years with tons of other MMO’s in between)

Cool, Ive been around too many to count honestly, I know that somewhere in the list is FFXI though, LOVED that one

Swedemon.4670:

AMD CPUs… this is a bit broad. Although, in general AMD CPUs are an economical choice. As such we inherently give up quality of gameplay to save money.

ArenaNet has stated they are constantly working to improve their engine’s performance. That is the likely response to this question which includes any budget CPU.

That said, I have read a number of users with AMD rigs that are playing just fine, albeit most are overclocked.

True but if I am using a processor that refuses to use 100% of its operating capacity on a game (it necks at 60%) then the game is not using it to its fullest potential.

Knote.2904:

As a 23 year old who also started with Everquest (thanks dad).

/Fistbump

/Fistbump indeed
What other MMOs have you been through?

I have to agree vidiotking (sorry I didn’t make a quoted reply, my post function buttons seem to be missing…)

However with the casual pace at which I play the game, I think I will be arriving at endgame when its more or less, fixed, or at any rate BETTER then it is now.

I think I’ll go with the Charr being chimeras with more feline then anything else in the formula

Milennin.4825:

Yup, game rocks.8)
Nice post by the way.xP

Thanks, I just felt like I needed to sing my heart out, needing to make a post like this was in my system like a bad hit of too much speed for the last week or so :P

Renegadeimp.8439:

Admitting you are a furry or brony isnt the best choice of action.

I have absolutely zero fear of trolls man, come the hell at me bro

Feranor.2053:

The Nagging Fear that in endgame there wont really be a renewable game play based source of gold income, forcing me to buy gold through jewels

This right there is the source of most of the game’s shortcomings. Unfortunately it sort of comes with the business model of Pay2Win.

True but at least the game is FUN to play regardless, my character could be in total rags for the rest of its life as long as the game is awesome fun.

Incidentally I am sure I will make decent money on the player market through gear drops I just don’t want, being able to sell on the market on the fly is pretty sweet.

If anything my first character was a Charr Engineer for the Lore aspect, just love the idea of an extraordinarily intelligent (I’m an Engineering student, being an engineer DOES require a lot of brains) and refined savage, using a flamethrower to scour the earth clean of filth.

I vote for more Bug and Performance fixes, seriously

I would just like to know if there is an ongoing effort on Arena Nets part to improve the performance compatibility of AMD CPUs for Guild Wars 2

I figure this is as good a place as any to talk about this.

Let me tell everyone a bit about myself, I am a 25 year old Engineering student, gamer, furry, brony, and all around Nerdy McNerderson, or Geeky McGeekerson if you prefer.

I have MMORPG-ed my heart out since my young childhood, having started with a little console MMO known as Everquest Online, and from there my desire to explore digital fantasy worlds blossomed into what my mother considered a ‘manageable addiction’, to her, Good Grades = MMO game time.
Lol.

Having been around, through, over, and under the Massivly Multiplayer block many times, I found around my young adulthood of 18 years and my entry into Mississippi State University, playing an MMORPG known as World of Warcraft, and while in my 3 year incarceration in Blizzards Money-Pit ofkittenSouls, I became very pessimistic about the genre, the game often took one exciting step forward, and then two disappointing steps back before it turned around to kick me square in the jolly department.

When I hung my hat up and resigned to the launch day of a little doomed MMO known as Final Fantasy 14 (I actually still play that off and on, and I am VERY excited about its complete remake/reboot launching around Christmas) that I then spent two years playing it. Yes it was a broken mess, yes it was grindy, but I found many friends and enjoyed much hardcore hard-mode bossfights while making sure my feedback got to the Devs so they could make sure 2.0 goes off without a hitch.

And then the end of summer break came, I had no time for super grindy fun-time of the current FFXIV gamebuild and so I cautiously entered uncharted territory to fill the gap of the next few months.

Enter Gamestop, I walked into my local evil lair where evil people work, to trade in some rubbish that I beat on my 3DS way too fast when the soul-dead thrall behind the counter suggested Guild Wars 2 to me.

I sort of took offense, where did this knuckle dragging slobber jockey get off suggesting a seasoned veteran of the MMO scene like myself, a fresh off the presses MMORPG that would probably be just like all of the other WoW clones?

However my trade in values where a surprising 70 dollars total so I decided, hey why the hell not, a fresh distraction will keep the barrel of a magnum out of my throat.

Once this game was installed and I began playing I was just absolutely, astounded by how responsive the controls where, it didn’t feel like an MMORPG at all really, once I realized that I was auto targeting enemies when I fired my engineers rifle, my worries about luggy FPS ruining my experience was completely gone. The game then proceeded to have the audacity to have a personal storyline for me to experience to give my character depth and meaning. I very ironically/sarcastically demand that Arena Net explain themselves, where do they get off making an MMO that is so astounding when I have never even heard of them!

Joking aside :P

I adore this game, I do not regret it in any way whatsoever, I do not regret the 20 dollars I just spent on new character slots, and I will not regret the hundreds of dollars I will spend buying probably a few hundred slots just so I can experience all the race/gender/class combinations the game has to offer.

My only complaints are as follows:
-The poor utilization of AMD processors
-The Nagging Fear that in endgame there wont really be a renewable game play based source of gold income, forcing me to buy gold through jewels

A short list indeed, but powerful complaints all the same.

In closing, I just want to say what the title of this topic exposits, this game has inspired me to trust the MMORPG genre again, and its booming popularity is a testament to the future of the industry.

Thank you Arena Net for taking me by surprise, its the best surprise I have had in years.

-Thank you for your time
Signed,
Vormund Geist