not true you can obtain said Badges of Honor without pvp’ing from what i ve read and i quote
“The fastest method by far is doing the jumping puzzles (in the borderlands) and you will have to do them approximately 100 times. This can currently be done in 4 days if you use 5 characters and you do it between 01:00 CET (when rematching is done) and 10:00-11:00 CET (when server is undergoing maintenance) and once again after the maintenance.”
ur right wasaguest already today ive spent a good 3 hours farming the wvw lands for mats etc while waiting on points opening up, farming like i would normally do in the pve lands
it shouldnt require me to do any pvp like sarisa said it should be separate with the other separate pvp achievements that i will not be doing. Ive spent all my time exploring 80% only to find out i must do pvp to get the last bit.
The biggest problem with having the explorer requiring the WvW maps is that you get people taking up very limited WvW space who do not actually want to participate. Many servers have massive queues, which is bad for both explorers trying to get in, and for PvP’ers who can’t get in because an explorer is in the map.
Primarily PvE players don’t like it because of the forced PvP. WvW players don’t like it because of space taken up by non-participants. The two should be separated and given different achievements. PvE world completion should remain the Gifts of Exploration. WvW completion could be given a bunch of tokens to get a headstart.
To answer your question Revenant i play this mmorpg because i love the rpg aspect but dislike the mmo part. I love the crafting system and i enjoy farming for hours making something and selling it, maybe strange to others but its what i enjoy. I also enjoy completing achievements but this is the first case ive came across that an mmorpg forces its player to do pvp to complete an essentially 80% pve game.
Its been said a dozen times in this thread already, but:
1) You aren’t ‘forced’, that’s just something you personally want
2) 100% means 100%, not “95% and the bit I don’t like”
3) Complaining on the forums isn’t going to get you the achievement any faster, and it isn’t going to be changed. Dry your eyes and get in game if you really want it.
Im sorry i thought the purpose of a forum was a place where others shared their own views on a particular subject im hardly crying.
The question you should be asking yourself is “Why do I feel entitled to 100% completion without running all the content?”
This game is already lacking in things to do at the endgame. Please don’t encourage ANet to remove what little there is out there.
The majority of the content is pve im at 87% and i ve barely got any in the pvp lands so why force me into a completely different aspect of the game to get the remaining percentage.
I remember when being a completionist used to mean something. When people would go above and beyond to get that 100%.
This is like a Pokemon player complaining they don’t want to trade with other people in order to “catch ’em all.”
If you’re not willing to do what it takes to get that 100% map then you don’t deserve to have that star above your name, it’s that simple.
Your kinda right i wouldn’t want to trade with other people in order to “catch them all” i would rather go to the lands they are and catch them myself but instead run into an army of evil breeders locked up behind a wall guarding em unable to get them unless other breeders band together
My gaming pleasure shouldnt have to rely on other people.
im not complaining about having to do the work for the achievement not once have i said that, willing to do the work however the “Work” is stopped because i have to rely on others on the server controlling most of the map before i can explore these area’s forcing me to pvp its not like pve as the only person i need to rely on is myself.
2) “Achievement” is something you achieve (doh!), not a welfare system whereby you are given stuff by rigtheous rights. So, get to work and earn it.
This sums it up. Stop crying, people, it’s not supposed to be easy.
Its not about being “easy”, “crying” or which ever flavor bait/attack of the week is. Its about having a player which prefer the main aspect of a game where being put into a situation where the rules change. This is essentially why PvP and PvE servers exist in other games. PvP isn’t pushed into PvE and vice versa. Blizzard will never push you into battlegrounds for map completion. That goes for a number of other MMO companies. They pride in making sure everyone is happy with the aspect of the game that players are aligned with.
Pushing users into situations that they do not care for is a recipe for disaster. PvP players do not like PvE and ditto for PvE players. You just don’t do that.
Just to clarify it has nothing to do with being “Scared” im playing a game….. i just dont like doing pvp and again pve bugs may prevent you from getting skill points but thats not in the game design its a bug so in fact had the game been functioning properly you would have nothing stopping you from doing it, enemy control being all of the pvp lands, does stop you.
My desires are to get 100% completion which im unable to do unless my team owns the map thus forcing me to pvp.
its hardly the same you are not stopped in pve from getting POI or vistas etc but unless your side controls most of the map in PvP you are stopped from getting them.
i dont enjoy it in fact i hate it, as for hard work ive done all the exploring in the pve lands and im currently at lvl 300 of the last crafting profession in the game since ive maxed out the rest of them so i do work and play hard in this game and i hold no ill will towards any people that prefere to do pvp best to them but forcing those that have no wish to pvp to do it i feel is very unfair.
Cant say im quite happy with the fact the game is forcing me into PvP lands, im trying to get 100% world completion and found out that i have to fully explore the PvP lands, im a Pve player always have been and now i m forced to go there but thats not the worst of it, how the hell am i supposed to explore said lands if the enemy own the vast majority of it, i cant get the POI i need to get because its in enemy hands.
So unless at some point we own most of the lands i will never be able to get 100% explorer, so my main point i feel it is unreasonable that people are forced to go to pvp lands and wait god knows how long before getting this achievement.
I was in a group with 4 members of BIA guild spent 40 minutes fighting/killing/dying only to get kicked near the end so they could invite a friend of the guild into the group.
To that end walked away with not a single token for COF, wasted 40 mins of gaming all because they wanted a friend in and you changed the loot system.
I saw potential in the new system now i despise it.
