Guild Wars 2

Fun fights in ebg before servers went down. CD thankyou for the fights at hyleks, I had a great time commanding vs you guys and taking your keep a bit later. kitten SoS managing to take CD keep in ebg 15min after we did =(
was good fun though!!!

DB EBG LANGOR…….

Mesmers, here’s an inner garrison hiding spot I have. learn it. love it.

May loot bags come swiftly to all.

the boss.7308:

jesus i have never seen such blatant spying by a server until this match up. Kaineng attacks sm opens the se door and as soon as the commander is alerted and porting to lowlands they run away from the wide open door. I dont blame them for runing though after getting wiped so many times.

called using enemy supply. last night in that BG vid posted a couple posts above, on their outer Bay we had at least 5 different ways to get through. And at inner they had 2 gates down and 2 walls. Not a chance to repair it so when the time came we could attack from wherever we wanted, however we wanted.

Pinko.2076:

Stopped watching when I counted 20 green dots.

Having two servers focusing you on your BL is literally how the game works, I think Kain is a bit fresh to WvW strategy if you don’t think that’s normal.

The week will play out with you winning from oceanic presence. No one is surprised by this. We put our egos in reset and it satisfied us. +320 ppt~

I know how WvW works on reset, I’m not new to that. It was a comment regarding what Shaka said. And if I’m not mistaken I actually complimented another server on their efforts.

Ugh, ok so people think Kain doesn’t communicate, we don’t talk to non-guildies, we have bad players throughout our server and can’t wvw for crap?

1. Watch my vid, see kain communicate and crush a superior zerg from flanking. ( most talking done on TS )
2. Kain has only recently moved up through the rankings and is learning.
3. Shaka, we weren’t “Schooled” on reset. In anyone’s defense it is hella hard to defend two zerging servers in your own BL, which hats off to DB did very well on reset at Garrison.
4. The week will play out, then we can see the real strengths and weaknesses of each server.
5. Have fun.

Loved the fights last night for that NE tower in YB. You guys had that place seiged up so much, I counted at least 5 balistas, 3-4 arrow carts. You wiped about 20+ of us with your dwindling numbers, the only thing which won it for us was amazing portals. Great job though YB that was a blast!

I am loving all these posts in regards to Kain not being ready for the higher tiers. The funny thing is, a lot of the guild which I am have moved here from T1-T2 and believe Kain is ready for the higher tiers, they just need to improve co-operation. And with Kain demolishing their competition in the past few weeks there isn’t much room for practice when we have superior numbers. We can only learn to be better when we have stiffer competition and that is obviously going to be in the higher tiers.

Kain BL WvW after reset. Enjoy.

BoAKaN.6052:

Anyone have the current score? I am curious.

I play staff ele, and I get completely demolished all the time. We are nothing compared to warriors or thieves. And yet Anet wants to nerf us some more? I’m pure 3,270 power without food and I still do close to no damage compared to other classes, and not to mention only being able to hit 5 targets. =/

They may as well let Ele’s use a sword if they’re going to do this.

Wizardauz.3761:

Man tonight was insane. Awesome. But insane.

FTF went Kain BL and at one point held half the map, but as the night drew nearer and nearer it was like a beast was awakening. We watched from Kain BL as our own borderland fell… while Ehmry struggled just holding both north towers and garrison, Kain turned on DRs lane, picked up bay in what see like only moment. We we’re being pushed back, 20man+ zergs in Lowlands barraging our supply camps south of hills, while we repeatedly exchanged north east supply furiously for any supply we could manage to fortify hills. Maybe, just maybe we can hold.

By 9:00pm (PST) Our Borderland was all Blue (We’re Green btw). In Kain BL we had lost all control of north east supply and lowlands again was still on a constant barrage and worst yet, they had just about broken through the hills outer north gate.

They broke through…We tried stealth bombs, choke holds, time-warp bombs. We tried flame field combo’d dagger bombs. (only had around 10-15 able at this point, the rest we’re concentrated on manning what siege we had left before inner was broken through as well). By 9:30 FTF and those few brave enough side and run it into lords to prepare whatever siege we could to hold. We barely squeezed out 2 ballista 1 arrow cart and (i think) 1 cata from the 124 supply we had in the keep and whatever we had on us. We we’re reduced to about 12-15 total inside lords. We said our GG’s and prepared for the bill lol.

I’ve got video of the zerg rushing over the bridge, i’ll try and post it soon (probably crap quality we’ll see). But let me say this…

They we’re too many, they managed to give us a good defense through out the NA primetime and we made a good push, but time ticked away and things turned upside down. They managed to hold DRs lane at bay the entire time while they slowed our advances all the way till we held garrison and the entire east side. And still they pushed, more and more… Till they took garrison, then dawns, then complete control of north. And guess whats the worst part…. I didnt even see any WM tags. Im only now hearing stories of their tactics.

This is far stronger then any server i have ever seen before. This will destroy Maguuma, it will Crush Yaks Bend, and Dragonbrands night crew has got nothing to say. Prepare for the worst. This is a Tier 1 server if i’ve ever seen one (never been anywhere but ehmry, and we’ve only seen T4).

We gave it our best shot, we had a kitten ton of fun holding till the end over here at FTF. Would like to make some shout outs to [GH], [zZz], [PURG], [nerv], and a bunch others for helping out on Kain BL.

Looking forward to the rest of the week, although it most likely will not be good haha. Will be posting some vids if im able.

See you on the battlefield.

He told it so well.

Biggg shout out to DR and EB tonight in Kain BL. Our guild [CO] had one heck of a time, and we knew that if we kept pushing and keeping the pressure on eventually someone will crack. It was HELL to defend against multi zergs from both DR and EB and we knew that our last resort was to not lose faith, keep NW tower and turn the tides.

On a side note I am going to post a video with some of the WvW tonight in Kain BL, check it out when it’s posted.

Hey guys, I just finished this event without having the server reset.

Try this:
When you get 2/3 sharks, the 3rd one get stuck in a rock I found ( you cant see it )
Run around like a headless chicken AOEing the rocks until you get damage come up, and bam! finished.
When I did this the sharks reset about 1min later, the next person was able to kill 2/3 sharks but the 3rd one was in the rock so we tried my method for a 2nd time and it worked.
So yeah, try that, it worked for me and hopefully does for you.

Evilzara.6378:

Devona’s Rest. How many beatings does it take to make you realize that zerging Stonemist for hours isn’t going to get you Stonemist.
Then again you did eventually get Stonemist but my people did get many many loot bags. So thank you for that.

Lol, both Magumma and BP zerged SM over and over and over and yet we are targeted here, you expect us to sit back and watch while they have all the fun? We were trebbing north SM for hours, we were retaking towers, getting supply camps all over the map just like the other servers. Yeah we enjoy the loot bags the other servers give out as well.
Oh and btw, we have SM now, holding it, reinforced and causing havoc on maguumas side of the map.

On a side note, I’m loving this matchup, so even and everything about it is why I wanted to come to WvW in the first place, ty mag + BP.

Rob.7624:

That treb hitting Quintin has been the same treb all week. I think we’ve come to the conclusion that its a bot.
The only thing that makes me think otherwise is that the treb shots aren’t always exactly the same. But who knows. Would have to be only mildly incorrect to make that randomness occur.

haha funny you say that. Morningstar and I CONSTANTLY hound DR about trebbing Durios, QL and Anz. Yesterday I even brought my zerg there to show them how to use a treb and what they actually look like.

Btw, those NSP portal bombs, wow, I mean wow.. 1 failed because we got siege up first but the other ones crushed 25+ of us within 30sec. Good work on that tactic.

Dovgan.8605:

No wait a sec, now DR is way way worse. Man this is confusing.

You must be from AR or NSP. Try defending EB from a 30+ NSP zerg hitting rogues + WC with 5 catas, and defend NSP from the SE SM while they have 3 catas on the wall with about 20+ with them. Now at this point DR only had about 15 people in EB. I know because I was there. We managed to defend WC against that assault for 5min until help came, and push away the SM attack by using well placed trebs and mortars. Then they hit WC again with 20+ because people left.

Want another example? Good.

Try defend watergate at LL keep against 20+ and defend north SM and the supply camps with less than 20 people. We only get help if someone runs around the other BL’s and calls it. You guys even had our watergate down because we were so outmanned. And if morningstar hadn’t placed 6 arrow carts we would have been in a whole lot more trouble.

Want to know how we get ahead? Our commanders co-ordinate every move, we are consistent with everything we do, our players actually want to come to WvW. I was trebbing for more than 5 hours last night and im in full exotic lvl 80 ele with commander tag. Even ask morningstar, he was there the whole time. I even made a time lapse vid of me hitting OL for 1h. We are always hitting durios, ql and anz with trebs almost the instance they are taken, because we know as a server once they go down, you guys can siege SM.

Morale is a big factor in WvW, get crushed a couple times, morale goes down.. The vid I posted earlier, that last fight, after we wiped you guys we hit Ogres and there was close to none defending. We hit OL next and there was about 3-4 defenders, as oppose to your 30+ man zerg 15min earlier.

You guys have the numbers, how you use them is what counts.

I don’t like to start drama/trouble, I am just showing the facts from DR’s side of the map. Watch my vid and see how we play almost 24/7.

here is my vid for the past few days in WvW, unfortunately I did miss a lot of great fights and try my best to catch them all. GJ to AR + NSP so far this week, it’s been rough.

Sapphirias.7164:

jportell.2197:

GASM was doing amazing last night in EB. one 5 person team going bonkers taking several towers and then retaking them because AR and NSP were trying to defend their keeps from morningstar’s relentless assaults.

I was a part of that team. It also gained me a level boost from 73 to 77 in about 3 hours time. not bad.

I think it was me who made that team, if it was then I am proud that it made it to forums =)

- – Get used to it NSP + AR, because I’m going to be doing that all week long.

Yup, the plan was to hit garrison while you guys were focused on our main zerg by the tower, we ninja’d in and even got your lord down, we could tell you were panicking but didn’t have the numbers to hold you off. We had a small group up north but no one really knew it was DR.
So when we wiped at garrison a few min later Bay became green =)
@Junkhaus – We used to do that to Kain+Ferg, especially hit with a ninja team while the main forces were distracted.

Hats off to everyone in EB stopping NSP trying to ninja AR keep.

They were at inner gate with 30+ and gate being around 25%.
DR managed to flank the outer wall and completely demolish all the NSP players.
Amazing fight from both sides.

I have loved this matchup and hope we don’t move up anytime soon. DR still needs ALOT of work.

Great Job AR holding QL with 4 balistas, 2 arrow carts, 1 superior arrow cart and 2 catas, was hella hard to get in there.

Such a good WvW turnout today. AR you guys made us suffer by going through our supply camps, if you kept it up we would have been massacred. NSP hats off to you guys, holding us at your keep for that long is quite an accomplishment. Klovan and Wildcreek were pretty much taken every 20min for 3 hours. Can’t get Aldons, Can’t get Jerrifers, And definately can’t get the keep yet.

DR – we still have alot of work to get done, see when I commanded how I managed to take back ALL of what AR took in about 30min? That’s what we need all the time between us as a WvW server. It’s a shame our group fizzled out when we hit Jerrifers and people didn’t keep moving.

YES MORNINGSTAR IS BACKKKK

-AR/SF gona suffer now.

WvW from the past 2 nights with more coming!

The Reign Of Commander Firefly – DR – shall begin today.

( given I don’t dc ) hahaha…

StormWolf.7645:

Dhampyr.2104:

I can’t argue with you – everything you say is truth. You absolutely want to attack where the enemy is weak. The thing is, that stuff works great when the pastures are green. Points-wise, we’re destroying FC and ET, but that’s really just a numbers game and many bouts of PvDoor. When it comes to equal force on equal force, the result is often a coin toss.

If we keep cruising like this, we’re going to end up in T7. Although I bet DR moves to T6 before we get there, can you imagine facing them again with that strategy – meaning there aren’t any easy pickings anywhere and you have to fight for every single camp/tower/keep? The zerg you talk about will get wiped and quit. It’s just plain better to have quality players that understand siege, understand tactics, and have the heart to deal with heavy resistance than to have a mob.

I’ll tell you (from my experience anyway), DR zergs didn’t seem similar to the zerg you discuss here. They flank, they ambush, and although you can stall them, they don’t quit. That’s why they ate us alive when they were down here, and why I think DR will continue to advance. I’d hate to see Kaineng start to get on its feet, start to advance, and then fail miserably because our folks can’t handle a difficult fight.

I think you may be underestimating some of the folks you have – this past week, I’ve played side by side with quite a few of you guys, and I’ve always come away with a feeling that your guys are pretty dang good. I’d hate to see that talent and strength melt at a hint of adversity.

I have crushed many a DR Zerg, and when I did there was a few things I always kept in mind:
1) TARGET THE COMMANDER. This was always required because a DR Zerg without a Commander is basically destroyed.
2) The first time you defeat a DR Zerg they will lose about 25% of their Zerg, the other 75% will come back hard and fast to try and slam you down.
3) The second time you beat a DR Zerg it actually seems to just irk them off, they only lose like 5-10% of their people.
4) The third time you beat them the DR Zergs tend to crumble. They will retreat from the map and just leave small groups of skilled folks behind to annoy you.

The reason DR Zergs are dangerous is their Commanders who are well organized and work well together. If you can disrupt that communication, you can beat them much much easier. The reason why Chaster’s Zergs are so powerful is how cohesive his groups are, Chaster’s people lack individual strength and as such will likely get crushed most of the time if they are separated from the group. BUT…when they are in a group, they stick together and follow the directives Chaster issues. This is VERY powerful in a setting where “PUG Zergs” are the standard affair.

This is the reason I consider SoS to be one of the most powerful forces I have yet to see, this is also why I think that every time they get on for WvW EB will turn the color of Kaineng.

1. Sorry for posting here from DR, but I like to check the forums every once and a while to see how our old neighbors are doing
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2. We at DR have had the chance to work on tactics this week, and let me tell you, we aren’t as much of a mindless zerg as we were before. I managed to command 40+ people to follow me without running ahead, without chasing, without luring any enemies, they were porting, speed boosting, everything.
3. 11 of our DR commanders have gathered and talked strategy, stuff which I can’t say, but we put some methods to the test, and we obliterated the enemy zerg within seconds.

4. A bit of feedback when I was commanding against you Kain, always watch your flanks, check where the fight is, then watch which way the fight is heading. You can’t let us get behind you, you need to stay on the ball, because we do all the time, and we don’t stop. Get 2 commanders and co-ordinate flanking and squashing.

5. A comment to your “numbers” game, it doesn’t work like that if the commander is doing their job properly. Get to the commander and kill them? By the time you get through the zerg your dead. I as an elementalist, I command, get in, do my damage, get out, command again and repeat. You are right on 1 thing though, a zerg without a commander is pretty much dead.

6. I do hope to fight Kain again, I want to see what they have to offer as oppose to the recent weeks.

-I am not coming here to downbuzz you guys, just sharing what I’ve seen, and hopefully you don’t take it as negative, take it more as constructive.

Thanks, Commander Firefly – Devona’s Rest – GASM.

Braddock.5430:

WrathOfGod.4695:

Raven.6287:

Morningstar.6208:

We actually have a rule to not to place any siege until enemy places one at spawn points.

Well it seems you break your own rules. One has to also ask how many other rules have you broken currently and in the past.

Go back to PvE while we are you match up then.
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Here is 2 vids from the past 2 nights with WvW action.
Don’t take this the wrong way, but SF, when you have a zerg with the same numbers as DR like you did today, don’t leave after you get wiped. We took Garrison 10min later when you all left and it became boring. I’m not being mean, just asking you guys to stick around more =/

Vid 1. ( mainly vs HoD ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4uNM0jKH8Y

Vid 2. ( all vs SF ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO-k_MVsY8Q&

^ still being uploaded.

Try and get some footage of the Norn Guardian is Sorrow’s Embrace gear next time

Get naked and stand out then I will do my best haha.

Raven.6287:

Morningstar.6208:

We actually have a rule to not to place any siege until enemy places one at spawn points.

Well it seems you break your own rules. One has to also ask how many other rules have you broken currently and in the past.

Go back to PvE while we are you match up then.
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Here is 2 vids from the past 2 nights with WvW action.
Don’t take this the wrong way, but SF, when you have a zerg with the same numbers as DR like you did today, don’t leave after you get wiped. We took Garrison 10min later when you all left and it became boring. I’m not being mean, just asking you guys to stick around more =/

Vid 1. ( mainly vs HoD ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4uNM0jKH8Y

Vid 2. ( all vs SF ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO-k_MVsY8Q&

^ still being uploaded.

A lot of those Golem pushes we’re because of me, I am testing strategies, what works, what doesn’t. Especially last night placing the trebs far away from Dawns ( up north ) and defending that area with balistas and arrow carts. SF/HoD you guys think we only zerg? I have a video here of you HoD desperately trying to defend your 4 catas against me while trying to ninja the keep in EB? This is just my opinion from what I’ve been seeing, but you guys can’t keep leaving after you die, I know it’s demoralizing but eventually numbers will come if people see there is more action going on. Instead of 2 people taking supply camps then leave, keep fighting until you get atleast 10-20 people then you can do some serious damage. I have also seen 1 very very dedicated group from HoD ( about 3-5 of them ) who kept coming back, and defended against us in Langor for over 10min once the gate was down and that gave us hell. Dedicated groups like that is what Devona has, and we worked very hard to achieve that.

As morningstar said. DR sticks at it. We keep pushing. We keep fighting. And that type of game play gets us results.

To SF and HoD.

Most of the DR players I talk to feel bad for pretty much pushing you out of your own borderlands. This week we have had a great influx due to our new match up. From A LOT of the players who I have talked to, we deeply apologize and feel bad for what we have done so far this week.

I personally don’t want to go and command in WvW when it’s like this, I don’t see the point. And I do hope we got stomped in the higher up tiers. At least then can we really get more strategic, instead of zerg here, zerg there, zerg that neutral bunny over there.

DR – Commander Firefly -

So far this match up has been on the slow side, I expect it to pick up eventually. I have seen a few strategies both kain/ferg never used which this new tier does, and I hope to pass on to my fellow guildies what I have seen so we can better ourselves. Adult Magazine, anyone in the right scenario can kill many people. I can hold off about 20 enemies given the right scenario, but I don’t come on here to brag about something like that because it happens so often.

SF/HOD I do hope to see more action in the coming days, or I may need to take zathorovarnur’s offer up =D

Cheers, Firefly.

DR moving up, so many people doubted us, oh well lets hope your new match up will be less stressful. Thanks for the fun Kain + Ferg.

Cheers – Commander Firefly – DR.

Many commanders, everywhere.

Cmon Kain let’s get serious here. It does you no justice at all to call your SoS buddies for a couple of hours, so they can zerg the whole map, then leave? Why do you think we had the hots for you in the first place? Because of them. . . You can’t stand up on your own yet, and so you make things worse by calling them?

Fergs are doing a great job holding their BL, can’t seem to crack them just yet.

DR wants to move up a tier, to give you guys a break pretty much, to even out the playing field.

Ok, I am a commander Firefly from DR. This is how the fight for Kain borderlands panned out last night, so read if you like strategy that I use, instead of pure head on attacks.

I came onto the map to start control of greenbriar, bluevale and victors. I accomplished that after 15min of fighting both Kain and Ferg by hitting the back wall of Greenbriar. Once I got that there was too many Kain to start trebbing Bay. So I headed up north with the few people I had at that time. We took Cliffside by hitting the wall around the corner with 2 catas, we ran out of supply after the first, so people had to go take the north supply camp instead of the camp next to us, so we wouldn’t bring the Kain to us. Wall went down, we took Cliffside, few min later Kain showed up just as we captured it. Few DR died then, so I went back to spawn to start over since the element of surprise was gone. We retook victors, and headed north towards Hills, We started catapulting the outer wall with 2 catas, we got found out about 5min later and their wall was on around 20% with the small group I had. I then waypointed back again and by then another commander had joined in, and started a group trebbing Bay Keep. We fought that place for what felt like hours. Once we finally got through the outer wall, we had a small zerg and 4 commanders, which was sad. We took Bay but in the mean time Ferg were hitting Hills wall and decided they would try steal Bay off us, they tried zerging us, but they didn’t get into the outer gate. We then remembered that Hills was attacked by Ferg, so we picked up on their work and turns out the outer wall was at 5% ish. So we hit there, took Hills 5min later. I then took my group up north to start attacking Longview, I succeeded 5min later. I co-ordinated with the other commanders to attack different areas. 1 was down south entertaining ferg, 1 was at cliffside doing a front on attack with trebs at garrison which was the kain distraction, and I built 2 golems and hit watergate at garrison. We weren’t found out until we got to the inner gate because we played our cards right so we wouldn’t have the swords on our location to attract attention, also we had a good distraction. By the time Kain knew what hit them, the ‘Gate’ was downed within 30sec and we stormed it for the victory.

As you see, DR doesn’t just Zerg, a lot of the time we accomplish stuff by hitting where they least expect it.

Berkut.2837:

What did we do on the reset?

Completely destroyed our BL and almost wiped us off EB. You guys didn’t let up on the BL for atleast 12 hours just zerging the whole thing. I still admit though, you Kain’s and your scouting is flawless.

Sorry Kain, but after what you guys did on the reset. DR has it out for you.

Should be fun to watch from our new keeps.

Looks to me like SoS guild doesn’t want DR to move up a tier.
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