Guild Wars 2

Haven’t been logging in. Swtor and diablo 3 have been taking my time of which I barely have any with family and work =(

Yojack build but gear with zerker and axe/warhorn. Less reliant on bleeds with all the overall utility and fun of original with more burst damage for pvp

I broke it down with screen shots a few pages back but, its 63% base crit with traits and gear (all rampagers including jewelry). Then im at 100% uptime with 20% + crit and 10% sword mainhand trait and 5% from accuracy from warhorn sigil. All this = 98% crit with sword mainhand dropping to 83% with rifle.

Smug: Interesting yeah and not sure if stealth nerf and working as intended or not.

When I click your link oghier I just get a blank template so I cant comment but thanks for posting and I always appreciate good tweaks of the Yojack Build as I am sure others are too.

Anomander: I am that Yojack! I mean….who the hell would want a name like Yojack? Dual warglaive rogue and stunlock champion lol.

The best tweak to the Yojack Build gear wise is to go axe/warhorn and go full berserkers. Less bleeds but more burst damage and biggar numbars!!!

For the above links, actually drag and highlight to COPY then paste directly into your internet browser. Do NOT select copy link from the thread as it will be a bad link. That may help some =)

http://www.gw2db.com/skills/calc/warrior#2|15|10|919|65|226|246|0|0|0|0|25|1525|1519|0|15|1895|0|0|30|1057|1507|1056|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|28037|28016|53498|53498|53498|53498|53498|26058|48792|0|0|0|0|

Here is another look but without gear options or calculations, but it will give you the trait specs

Cut and paste for best results:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIEQNBkYDbE0p6t5R5hJOggPUFXGJRAmeUGsRaA;T0Ag1CqoyyklILbWuskZtwYgxBjNBPMA

This is the lastest version of my 24/7 build that I use for everything wvw/pvp/dungeons etc. If you can suggest another build calc I can put it in but the above is the only one i know of that is complete and up to date.

My last posted build (a few posts up) is perfect for a berserker geared axe/warhorn/rifle set up but its great for swords if you prefer. I am still in full exotic rampager but zerk/axe is just as viable. It comes down to more burst vs harder dots but I just really like savage leap too much to go axe. I think its because of the ability storm on my trooper from swtor. I just love gap closers with melee characters and axe I feel to kiteable at times.

^^ Oh and crack shot instead of 10% crit with sword. Weird can’t edit post.

cut and paste into browser for best results:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIEQNBkYDbE0p6t5R5hJOggPUFXGJRAmeUGsRaA;T0Ag1CqoyyklILbWuskZtwYgxBjNBPMA

Replaced “on my mark” with “fear me” for a move pvp centric Yojack Build a long time ago but this link is updated for this.

For the record I have never spent karma on anything except for leveling chef when it was easy to do with karma vendor ingredients. Otherwise I have just been saving karma up for when they actually add something that is worth buying

RONcket, you bring up some interesting questions. Of course tweak to taste but the overall Yojack Build is al about overall fun gameplay and not necessarily a one trick poiny build. I don’t switch to longbow very often as I am usually running with plenty of AOE for most sieges and I will want to single target dps oil, arrow carts etc. Sigil wise if you want to tweak for more damage with earth that is fine but remember blood is doing damage AND healing you so I think its the best for this build especially since it proc on crit.

Thanks Ryx, but Schwahrheit is entitled to his opinion. And obviously my build would be mediocre against him…..

Praxis, you will be completely unimpressed with the dolyak regen as it it literally 30 health a second….(may have changed but last I checked). Sounds great on paper but the key to the Yojack Build is it isn’t based on theorycraft. Its tested and works in real time actual gameplay and if played effectively by someone who understands the build, game mechanics and overall team oriented play, the Yojack Build is a great spec and can be used as the core for MANY effective variations based on personal preference or playstyle.

Thanks Ryx. It may be obvious but if you are going to go with the Axe tweak of my build then you will want to go full berserkers instead of rampager to take advantage of bigger crits and burst damage. It can be a lethal tweak and arguably better in some cases then my sword/rampager variant. Both fun either way!

Sarrath, omg DAOC <3 <3 <3 best pvp ever and still one of my favorite games of all time. I had a skald on a free for all pvp server but minstrel was better in my opinion and was the last level 50 i played back on lancelot with a cleric buffbot.

Stynard, thanks and yup, I have been dealing with the phenomenon since 2003 wow beta, haters going to hate lol.

Bas, thanks. 1200 heal from shouts is still 1200 health they have to fight through and aoe it can do 10k + healing in one button press….I still like it. Not sure if its a bad link on the builder but I have sigil of blood on main hand only, but if you are saying that I would still get the benefit of the main hand sigil even when swapped to other weapon set….then whoa…incoming tests to see if thats true! (thanks in advance if that is accurate even though inc fix im sure.)

calearan: Roughly about lvl 60-65 is when signet crit builds start fading and then would be an appropriate time to switch builds to what you think you will be using at 80.

Immortal: Thanks and I agree with your first paragraph completely, as I have won many fights with a bleed still ticking while im cc’d etc. I wouldnt recommend a FULL bleed build as dots in pvp are limited of course vs burst…but being able to have both = priceless. Mending vs signet. I love passive healing…but duing most wvw battles having a burst heal available is usually > then hots and you can NEVER have too much con removal It is kind of the sexiness of my build……

Andreasals: I will trust you on the math, and I have said earlier in the thread that the only other set I would consider for an overall build would be berserker. Obviously you can tweak the Yojack Build to taste going more burst, or more tanky but I will let the players playstyle make the decision here. Gear accordingly but I still love the core of the build better then any others I have seen or tried in beta.

Badwrong, at this point I have to assume you are just trolling or unable to read. in my first post I stated “This build is definately viable both pve and wvw and imo the best overall choice for survivability, group play and utility while still just being a BEAST one vs one”. This in no way grammatically implies it is the best for survivibility. Key words here are its viable….and an overall build, not a its best at this or that. I won’t even address any of your other comments at this point because you aren’t adding anything worthwhile other then spam and flames. You are welcome to start your own thread or add your insightful comments some where else because obviously you aren’t here to gain any knowledge or make your gameplay better….you are already better then all of us here.

Kagoshima: Thanks and glad you are having fun with the build, I know I love wvw using it too!

I love Crit. I may even get a bumper sticker and a t-shirt. I have always liked crit builds all the way from vanilla wow beta. The reason I went for rampager is not for bleed stacking persay. I wanted the highest crit possible without going over 100% and without sacrificing dps. With rampager you get the highest precision possible while still getting decent power. The con damage makes your bleeds good enough that targets WILL blow cds to remove them which is GOOD. You can reapply at will with the Yojack Build while still hitting the target with good “white” damage because of the high crit rate. If your bleeds are insignificant or you go axes and dont have any bleeds whatsoever….then your target can just sit on all his cd’s and you are unable to “force his hand”. The constant pressure I can keep on a target from either ranged or melee is formidable and while not super bursty it is a great combo of bleeds for when they kite and solid direct damage from constant crits. Dps uptime is superior and that is always an underrated component of any build.

Back on topic, for pve I have on my mark equipped, but trade it out for fear me when I rvr because it is much more useful obviously. Even though I hate anything with longer then a 1 min cd, its utility for the group is unmatched with our other choices.

OK Yojack time! First this thread was able to make it 4.5 pages without trolling so I have to ask we keep it constructive. This thread is not for you if you 1) already have a build, 2) consider yourself elite gaming pro and don’t need help 3) Just here to troll and say mine is better yours is bad etc.

Every build can have its time to shine in a certain enviorment. Everytime I read this thread or warrior threads in general I am looking for an edge, a build, a tactic to up my game. Every time I wvw I love my build and it works for me exceedingly well with my guild/group/team and arguing that it isnt effective or “I have fought this build and won” is absolutely ignorant. Skill + gear + effective build/playstyle determines the “winnar”.

Thank you for continuing to post ideas, counters and intelligent arguments to improving the game of all who read the thread, otherwise please dont come back……you are already to good and don’t need this thread to get better

I understand your points Badwrong and I appreciate you bringing them up here. Of course if there was one end all be all spec it would get nerfed to kingdom come. When in wvw and traveling in a pack, shout heals ARE a great bonus and I am really tired of the no healing = bad healing argument. If I have regen and lifesteal and healing shouts against someone who doesnt ….well….I will let you do the math. All that being said I really can’t ever see doing wvw without specing for some sort of range. It just seems horribly selfish and one sided and not TEAM oriented at all. Not saying the build is good or bad, its more of a philosophical question of playstyle, game mechanics and playing for the groups success instead of the individuals.

Obfuscate, yup just enjoy the leveling experience by doing pve imo (fastest leveling) and queue for eternal borderlands for when you get a little bored of heart filling and want to do some pvp. Either way you level extremely fast in this game.

Citizen, I hardly use my finisher so I usually am running with full adrenaline anyway taking advantage of better health regen and always having it ready to use a kill shot when I switch to rifle or the very underrated sword finisher with huge bleed and root.

Exersize, I leveled with lyssa macroing it to my 1 attack so it would just spam. It was actually kitten good for pve with health regen and protection for a few seconds. However, it was too random and not a good slot choice imo for lvl 80.

Badwrong, your build seems more suited for spvp and is very 1 dimensional for my tastes. The Yojack Build is a great overall core build for wvw, pve and spvp with many advantages for all situations without having to respec. If you take my build and add fear me instead of on my mark your only advantage imo is a couple of seconds of stun. Again 1vs1 you may be able to cc….but good luck while I am kiting the hell out of you LOL. I am glad your build works for your playstyle but ill stick with mine for now

Stynard, the sigils are crafted and you can buy them off of the trading post.

Creo, sup man! I miss swtor to be honest and wish that game would have just implemented some real world pvp. I would still be playing and may go back once its f2p.

Thanks for the love!

Just T, Deria answered best. Anything + 5 signets and +40 precison per signet trait is still our best leveling spec. BUT, if you want to hit 80 with more skill and better understanding of our class….leveling with the Yojack Build can give you some great practice and much needed experience with the build for when you hit 80.

Healing signet vs mending: Again for pve leveling I found healing signet was very nice for chain pulling and very easy map completions, but for lvl 80 wvw I have settled with mending as my healing of choice.

Crackshot vs Blademaster: In beta I had musketeer (crackshot) until release where it was bugged and didnt effect volley. As soon as they fix it I will be running crackshot as well. Until then blademaster + sword/warhorn is still our best aoe by far especially for pve. I can circle strafe group event bosses and not die while tanking in most cases. Volcano boss in maelstrom is one example.

Sekin, tweak to taste but I still like rampager. The only other set id consider is berzerker (prec/power/crit dmg%).

Epik….I answered your pm, but posting here helps others with the same questions get answers

Atreus…I don’t like banners in their current form.

Draco, I had said originally that I was going back and forth between signet and mending and was using signet for leveling when I originally posted the build. Now at 80 the burst healing and condition removal of mending is just better for non pve so its mending in the official Yojack Build now. As patches come I will update and adjust as necessary to keep the build current while being true to the original core of all Yojack Builds which is maximizing the enjoyment of the game. Its called the Yojack Build so it truely is what I am running 24/7 while playing the game and not just some theorycrafted non tested build.

SimoxTav: The chance to crit is cumulative so +5% + 5% = 10% although it wont show in char screen. Your math is incorrect as I am running at a constant 98% crit chance buffed with sword and warhorn and that is with sigil of blood on mainhand and accuracy on offhand. I wont do the math for you here but 50% longer bleeds is much better dps wise then vulnerability every 33% on crit. Just trust me

Quite Drunk, thanks for the kind words. Yeah I kinda love this build too and haven’t seen one yet that would make me switch As soon as they fix crack shot to lower the CD on volley then I will do an update and roll with that as well.

As far as burst builds there are already other builds posted so I wont comment on those….they are just way too one trick pony for me.

Rain Cheetah: Well especially for going for 100% completion, you are going to want to kill fast and be able to solo. For that, I will still recommend rampager gear. I am totally survivable and kill stuff so fast that it makes clearing maps easy. I solo champion mobs and have even soloed group event bosses (kiting with rifle) so I really cant say that I would need more vitality. Tweak to your own taste and talent level but I really prefer my build with rampager.

gw2skills site is back up, please copy and paste the link below for best results:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIEQNBkYD7E0hogbeQ5BmIDA4DVdZk0UpHlxWaA;T0Ag1CqoyyklILbWuskZtwYgxBjNBPMA

Even at 30,000 health, that only gives you a 3000 window of uber DR…..its nice but hardly a game breaker. Stacking vit, tough and heal is the obvious way to tweak the Yojack Build for more tankiness and you become a huge damage sponge for the rest of your group. Overall I didn’t like the playstyle of meatshield for wvw so I went more offensive but this is a great alternative Dwok if you want to just be hard to kill!

Jester, Doug answered with my first reaction to your question which is are you using shake it off to get out of the stun, then a rifle butt to get distance then kite? Thiefs can bring a lot of pain in a hurry, but in most cases we can out last there initial burst (assuming good gear and/or spvp). Being able to break stun then a couple of dodges to get some distance does wonders. Then its just a matter of outlasting them since thieves are really squishy and you just need to turn the tables on them. I can’t say that I have lost to a thief in a true 1 vs 1 if I have all my cooldowns up, but this might be gear, talent etc.

Thanks guys, I am glad that the Yojack Build at least gave you a road map to finding a build and style that maximized your fun and enjoyment of the game. That is the whole point of course =)

Both links seem to be down atm so posting this one until the others are back up:

http://www.guildhead.com/skill-calc#ccRkVo0MzmaRNmmaRNm0pfx0cRzosb08kil7khT7kil707kil7kNc70V7ow270z

Crit% vs con damage can be argued but the math wins out and the situation wins out. Sometimes some more burst is great….other times having dots ticking away is a winner. When every hit is a crit AND you have good dots going its a great mix. The arguement that conditions are wipeable and crit damage is instant is valid…but overall the dps is higher and the constant pressure of dots ticking making your target blow there condition removals while still putting them back on instantly is awesome in my opinion.

Tukimi, I dont remember a rampager version of the back slot being offered. There was a tank one and a healing one, so this was the best dps one available. That being said, cloaks and capes and back slot items are coming so wont be long until I can get that slot exotic too

Custard, I am using soldier runes and rampager gems.

Moat, Zoltan answered perfectly so see above for how I am getting to 98% crit. A picture of my unbuffed stats are on page 3 of this thread.

Thanks Zoltan, I have not seen a build yet that would make me change from the core of th Yojack Build. Tweaks here and there are argueable, but overall I just love the playstyle and powerful feeling of the build.

Rouncer, thanks for the input and I will say again that it is a viable substitute and a nice tweak of the original core Yojack Build.

PanH….With Adrenal Health having a longer cooldown and zero condition removal, I just like mending or signet more.

Wow, tons to answer tonight but thanks in advance to all who continue to reply and add to a great discussion.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/gw001vi.jpg

The above is my character currently, a mix of crafted and COF gear for what I think is a very intimidating dark look without going to overboard with the fire graphics

In my original build I had muskateer at the time (now crack shot) back in beta. With volley being our highest single target dps move with rifle it is a shame it is bugged right. That being said….rifle is NOT aoe. Seriously might as well move some traits and go longbow tbh. The only time piercing would be decent is if you are trying to kite a ranger ( ? lol) and you are able to hit him and his pet simultaneously. For all other occasions I want high single target burst (volley) and 90% of the time it will be just that….single target.

For the arguements of to much crit: First it is sword and warhorn only at 98% and rifle is at 83%, so the argument to drop 5% crit sigil and the 10% trait for sword is like I have said before a very viable substitute and I will not argue the merits of either based on how heavily it would be judged on effectiveness by what your trying to accomplish, pve, spvp, wvw etc. With so many things relying on crit in this build, both dps, procs of bleed, and lifesteal, I think the only level of too much crit would be anything over 100%. In an optimal setting with completely customizable gear, I would still go power/prec and then argueably vitality over con damage for overall pvp effectiveness.

Overall excellent feedback from all and great ideas here guys with very limited troll posts etc. I thank you for your suggestions and remember there is no right or wrong answers in a Yojack Build thread, just math, fun, imagination and an open forum to discuss and tweak to peoples liking. Thanks for all the kind words so far.

Last I checked, crack shot was still bugged and not lowering gun skill cds by 20% =( Otherwise it is an excellent substitute but man i like having 98% crit

Dwok, with “For great Justice” you have fury chained as well =P

While argueably not the optimal gear or build for explorable dungeons if thats all your going to be running, the build is so versatile that I use it exclusively for wvw, dungeons and pve exploring for my 100% map completion. I love not having to resepc and this build does it all really really well.

Timing your stun removal and shouts in a 6 vs 6 is obviosly crucial. If you have teamspeak or ventrilo and can coordinate your cc with massive burst….well yeah you are going to be prettykittengood regardless.

Excellent thread with discussion to the Yojack Build so I will just post a link to the thread:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/Yojack-s-Min-Max-home-of-the-Yojack-Build-2012-for-GW2/first#post63402

Shhh Dwok, we know they are going to nerf greatswords, but don’t tip them off to how powerful this spec is

Ironzerg….totally different build so I won’t comment other then sorry i like my build better

Khalous I have been experimenting with other healing skills, and i do like mending for even more heal burst and condition removal, healing signet is just more dummy mode =)

Yeah Ryou, without parsing you cant be 100% sure and there are definately a lot of bugged traits. The rifle trait doesnt lower cooldowns etc. But running at 98% crit…it just “feels” right in that I hardly ever miss a crit.

I can say that it does not show up in the character screen and i don’t see the increase from 5% sigil on my warhorn…..but based on the fact that every time I swing its a crit….i think its working

The core of the build is untouchable imo for overall flexibility and fun. As far as gear is concerned, of course tweak to taste. Want more vitality, lose some con damage….there are going to be tradeoffs but right now I am very happy with rampager and I don’t feel squishy at all while doing max dps possible for the build gear wise.