BG’s chest thumpers are still there. Instead of bragging about ppt, they are now bragging about “farming” like they are Maguuma reborn. They just can’t help themselves from talking trash lol
So it’s become pretty apparent that Blackgate is being actively double-teamed by the Tarnished Coast and Jade Quarry. It’s a strategy that they’ve used against us frequently before the tournament, and all you need to do is look at the tournament scores to see when they’re double-teaming us.
In the first round, we faced JQ and TC and soundly beat them 276k to 224k and 240k, respectively.
The next round, we only faced TC of the two, and beat them by 30k.
The third round was when JQ and TC began to double-team us in the tournament, shown by how Blackgate was butchered 168k to Jade Quarry’s 277k and Tarnished Coast’s 258k.
The fourth round, we faced only JQ of the pair, and soundly beat them by 40k.
This pattern continues, as anyone can see by looking at the scores documented on the wiki. It’s clearly shown that Blackgate can win against either team when they are separated and when they aren’t allied against us. I personally don’t care if we get double-teamed in the off-season, because it doesn’t matter. However, it seems rather unfair to me that Blackgate is getting double-teamed during a tournament, where the score amounts to a reward. It’s pretty much impossible for us to win if it isn’t going to be a fair fight.
My main question is:
Does ArenaNet realize this is going on, and if they do, do they plan on doing anything about it? Can they do anything about it? Is it considered fair for unofficial alliances to be formed, or is it an unfair disadvantage because there is no real counter to it?
I dunno why you expect Anet to do anything about it. Your post demonstrates your server is completely imbalanced since no other server in the entire game has any chance against yours unless they team up and play tactically against yours. You can’t really complain about a fair fight when your server can’t offer a fair fight against any other server.
+1, Even Though BG doesn’t listen to logic. Kids need there easy mode tickets punched
lol. The dev who thinks the alliance is ok plays on TC.
Thanks, that was a good laugh.
Said: the easymode BG player
Sorry, I can’t take the bait.
My views on WvW are pretty clear. Including supporting 2v1 in a 3-way battle. As an old DAoC player, that is a large part of what attracted me to this game.
Check my posting history if you’re interested.
I did find the video amusing. I won’t apologize for that.
Also concerned that what I’m hearing is ANet is happy with the Swiss style tournament they have employed. And them promoting server transfers.
I had a longer post today that objectively analyzed some of the issues…. as I was waiting to understand ANet’s position. (Unfortunately, the thread it was on devolved down into another match-up, much like this one.)
I believe their position is clear. I believe we will continue to see this style of tournament in the future.
Ok, accept, tolerate or move on.
It’s that simple.
off to bed.
See you on the next thread.
Maybe i am drunk, but, I am not sure what you are trying to say here
It’s clearly shown that Blackgate can win against either team when they are separated and when they aren’t allied against us. I personally don’t care if we get double-teamed in the off-season, because it doesn’t matter. However, it seems rather unfair to me that Blackgate is getting double-teamed during a tournament, where the score amounts to a reward. It’s pretty much impossible for us to win if it isn’t going to be a fair fight.
Can you define a “fair” fight for me? I’d <b>love</b> to see what BG comes up with within the context of it’s victories.
Just to start, I’m on IoJ server.
I could have sworn I remember reading a post with you saying you were from BG. Let me find it.
Edit: found it.
As for winning coming up. I AM FROM BLACKGATE, I’ve won plenty.
It’s clearly shown that Blackgate can win against either team when they are separated and when they aren’t allied against us. I personally don’t care if we get double-teamed in the off-season, because it doesn’t matter. However, it seems rather unfair to me that Blackgate is getting double-teamed during a tournament, where the score amounts to a reward. It’s pretty much impossible for us to win if it isn’t going to be a fair fight.
Can you define a “fair” fight for me? I’d <b>love</b> to see what BG comes up with within the context of it’s victories.
Just to start, I’m on IoJ server.
I’d love to know what context you’re even talking about because BG has beaten both TC and JQ when they aren’t together without colluding with another server to do so. They even beat them both in round 1. Even if you want to bring up the 2v1 in S1, that was purely due to ArenaNets terrible matchups, the basics of that agreement were JQ can’t win W1 or they’ve already won the season. It had nothing to do with hating JQ, it was purely so the other two servers at least had the chance at winning.
This 2v1 isn’t because either server is at a huge disadvantage and they need to band together to compete. All 3 servers are a relatively fair matchup as far as WvW matchups go. This is done purely out of laziness, cowardice, greed, and trolling. JQ and TC were too lazy to put in extra effort to win so they decided to take the easy route and go for a 2v1 to get the rewards with the added trolling bonus of keeping BG from doing anything since the matchups were fair to begin with. It’s pathetic really that both JQ and TC that were respected servers had to resort to such tactics. I really don’t know what JQ and TC are trying to accomplish here because it just makes them look bad.
You lost me at, (I’m on IoJ server), SOoo, I am suppose to pretend that, you may know what you are talking about? Nice try
lol all this fighting about 2 vs 1 if JQ and TC wanna go overtime working their butts off for skins that everyone from 1st place to 4th place can obtain then so be it~ and as for BG defending SoS please JQ you had it coming, boohoo your TC wasnt there to help you out, it was just a bit of fun really
Man, if that was the case! JQ forum warriors should of been spamming Anet to change the Meta of the game to make it fair. Jeez, we can’t have a 2v1 in a 3 realm game.
BG, easy mode players are so cute. Ah, the new generation of MMO players that think they should get everything for free. It is so sweet when things do not go their way. Anet brought 3-way fights back, Tyvm Anet, not since daoc has Open world fights been so fun. TY anet, for allowing the smaller servers tame the loose lipped ignorant kids, once again.
Smaller servers? It is funny that JQ and TC consider themselves as smaller server. All 3 server are of about the same size. It is the amount of skilled player and teamwork that is unbalance.
If that was the case BG would always be in last, and would of never beat SOR, Sor ran them over non stop. Coverage beat SOR
Well i dont know about SOR but it sure seem that BG TC and JQ have same coverage base on week one.
Oh, you must of be new to blackgate, case and point.
BG, easy mode players are so cute. Ah, the new generation of MMO players that think they should get everything for free. It is so sweet when things do not go their way. Anet brought 3-way fights back, Tyvm Anet, not since daoc has Open world fights been so fun. TY anet, for allowing the smaller servers tame the loose lipped ignorant kids, once again.
Smaller servers? It is funny that JQ and TC consider themselves as smaller server. All 3 server are of about the same size. It is the amount of skilled player and teamwork that is unbalance.
If that was the case BG would of always been behind SOR, Sor ran them over non stop. Coverage beat SOR
BG, easy mode players are so cute. Ah, the new generation of MMO players that think they should get everything for free. It is so sweet when things do not go their way. Anet brought 3-way fights back, Tyvm Anet, not since daoc has Open world fights been so fun. TY anet, for allowing the smaller servers to tame the loose lipped ignorant kids, once again.
So BG, was way behind SOR after last weekend and Bought mutiple guilds from Euro servers? and claim they have heart? and SOR quits? Oh, I get it, good job BG, way to have heart and not give up! You guys are awesome! Hopefully SOR can learn your ways =)
Well Played BG, you guys win, unless JQ can stop you, moreover; week 1 u got SOR to double team JQ and put them in 3rd for you, and then you pulled your russian out the hat!, well played I must say =) As for SOR keep fighting til the end!
BG is such a joke of a server, they need to buy guilds/friends rather than earn them. Why SOR stands strong and people join on free will. So many trolls on BG, and they keep coming in our thread, move on with ya lives. Nice BG gold saving gold to buy guilds link!
lol sor buys guilds via lottery tickets as well i have proof i gotta upload it soon. how do you think they got iron
best part is the denial.
Your obsession of SOR is funny in its self, FEAR tag(which is SOR) keep posting in thread that does not involve you!? Ya you need help, or just transfer over, you seem to like SOR alot
you guys have a poisonous community why would i want to be part of that
hmmm, since I haven’t been down with all the inner drama of all the server moves, I am going to assume that FEAR was bought by SoR during the latch match? Is that what you were referring to?
kids will be kids…..time will teach you common sense.
BG is such a joke of a server, they need to buy guilds/friends rather than earn them. Why SOR stands strong and people join on free will. So many trolls on BG, and they keep coming in our thread, move on with ya lives. Nice BG gold saving gold to buy guilds link!
lol sor buys guilds via lottery tickets as well i have proof i gotta upload it soon. how do you think they got iron
best part is the denial.
Your obsession of SOR is funny in its self, FEAR tag(which is SOR) keep posting in thread that does not involve you!? Ya you need help, or just transfer over, you seem to like SOR alot
you guys have a poisonous community why would i want to be part of that
idk, why you keep posting here? and have a FEAR tag, to try and troll SOR guilds/servers we face? You seem to have a love/hate relationship with SOR….. move on with ya life
BG is such a joke of a server, they need to buy guilds/friends rather than earn them. Why SOR stands strong and people join on free will. So many trolls on BG, and they keep coming in our thread, move on with ya lives. Nice BG gold saving gold to buy guilds link!
lol sor buys guilds via lottery tickets as well i have proof i gotta upload it soon. how do you think they got iron
best part is the denial.
Your obsession of SOR is funny in its self, FEAR tag(which is SOR) keep posting in thread that does not involve you!? Ya you need help, or just transfer over, you seem to like SOR alot
BG is such a joke of a server, they need to buy guilds/friends rather than earn them. Why SOR stands strong and people join on free will. So many trolls on BG, and they keep coming in our thread, move on with ya lives. Nice BG gold saving link, that shows BG’s ultimate goal is to buy guilds! If you have a good community, you don’t need a gold pile, to get guilds to join your server and have your back.
So after playing a bit of WvW on my plant thief, I have come to a conclusion that Tbags guild is the bad guild in this matchup? I pray that you aren’t a roaming group naturally…LOL
(I’m sure there will be pictures and videos later to be made, patience)
You must of been the non-stop stealth theif we chased a few times, that would log before you would let us stomp you. Ya, we are weekend warriors, we have jobs, fun times though =)
A little late but Hello Fort Aspenwood!! This is the first time SOR and FA have been matched up.
SOR fought FA during the 2 day matchups…….
Yea, I remember that. Thats when FA night capped us by like 600+ ppts and totally destroyed us during oceanic/sea time. This was back when SoR was ranked 17 or so.
SoR meets FA for the 2nd time after a year, and it’s interesting to see how much the tables have turned.
Yea, its probably all skill. SoR wins this week because you have the most hardcore skilled players.
Its good to know you see talent, where talent is deserved. I have to give probs to FA, they don’t run from fights like BG does.
Now JQ, you take BG’s and SOR’s shinies away from them(aka karma trains), you may actually get them to work together and 2v1 JQ. Careful what you ask for.
I hate to point fingers FA since we own your bl currently, but try to play fair. Trebs in your spawn, really.
So, You control their BL and you are still crying? classic BG, i thought school started back up? BG should be worried about not ticking off their teachers
With the end of last week’s NA match, I had my 50th WvW “Tier 1” win.
I ran with three guilds in doing so: The Elite, Henge of Denravi; Darkness is Everywhere (DiE), Sea of Sorrows; and Center of Attention (CA), Blackgate.
The intent of this post (and the linked video) is to mark this milestone. Thank you to those I’ve fought with, and against. The Oceanic and SEA community is alive and well. Thank you also to the NA guilds that stay up late (and for reset on our Saturday mornings). The WvW experience that GW2 offers would not have been such great fun without you.
I hear ya, about a week ago I got an infraction for telling someone they was LEET, told me I am not suppose to accuse people of hacking on the forums, “lol, huh?” I thought. Do they even know what some computer terms mean? As for the Gif’s, it makes these forums more fun. Think they need to simmer down on their power hunger. and stop being scrooges.
Was trying to quote cameron but didn’t work out right. Oh, well it was from page 1.
Man, the Gif’s this week was the best thing going for this thread, and the Mods lock it, how lame. Guess its back to reading the same arguments over and over and over and over.
You can tell who never played DAoC, because they think this would be a bad idea. This dungeon had some the BEST pvp in it in daoc, and the entrance in which each realm entered this dungeon was on opposite ends of the dungeon. So its not like you walk just walk in and wipe the other team and its over. There is usually a big rally by the team inside DF trying to hold their position as long as possible. With scouts tailing the attacking team giving updates on their location. Was epic back in DAoC glory days. Too bad no game has been able to re-create this dungeon.
2v1 is part of the game. I start 2v1 on BG in eternal every night. I don’t actually know any JQ, nor do I communicate with them. Starting a 2v1 is easy, to stop it, you need enough people to push 1 side off your lands and hold them off. They will do the rest.
:)
Doesn’t surprise me that tsym would take the easy way out considering since you took the easy way out on SoR and became just another zergball guild. I miss the old tysm from SoS who actually ran around by themselves and had good fights and didn’t just join the full map zergballs.
This sounds oddly familiar, hmmm where could this be from ;p. Not sure about solving 2 v 1, but it would increase the WvW popularity and add a nice dynamic. That is if it had some epic loot/skins, farming area’s, or even some unique boss fights. Then add a touch of PvP in there, how could you go wrong!? best daoc dungeon ever!
LMAO, SOR gets 1 guild, BG/JQ can’t exploit SOR’s weakness and the tears flow. Everything is balanced if you guys get T3 keeps going into NA prime time, but SOR getting T3 keeps, its unbalanced. I have listened for months how SOR NA was over rated, now the shoe is on the other foot all i hear is crying. Man up JQ/BG. You haters wanting easy mode are way too funny. Put your big boy pants on.
t1 has never been equal coverage. but dont kid yourself by thinking its equal now.
I guess JQ winning 3 months straight was ok ,while SOR was in last. although SOR kept coming out fighting, only reason the stayed in T1. JQ/BG are acting like they dont have a WvW force, though we all know they are waiting to pounce on easy mode victory. Don’t act like you don’t have the coverage.
we are all wvw servers and have coverage and we are all doing our best to win. like i said t1 has never been equal coverage which includes the times sor was in 3rd and jq was in 1st
Hence the reason BG/JQ should not be crying FOUL, for SOR getting a guild and JQ/BG should not be giving up. SOR still came out fighting, seems to me JQ/BG are giving up without fighting, although when SOR was in the same position they kept fighting and not crying foul. Point being less excuses, more pew pew.
Funny… Wasn’t it just a few weeks a go Merc and WM were playing during EU time to take advantage of the lack of EU coverage in T1 NA? Iron comes to SoR and gives them competition and now SoR is stacked and is breaking t1. I am sorry BG, you now have to put in effort for your PPT and it is not just handed to you on a silver platter by the PvD gods.
Both of BG’s recent wins were from mid-late week comebacks and almost entirely due to the overtime by Merc/WM/etc (look at the graphs: Week 17, Week 18). Oceanic/SEA guilds playing into EU to PvD is not sustainable in the long term and SoR’s EU recruitment was a knee-jerk reaction to this which has damaged the balance of T1 more than it has actually helped.
With SoR’s first win they were on top from start to finish (Week 19) and this week is starting to look like it will be no different (Week 20), but we shall see. SoR should have recruited Oceanic/SEA guilds to defend their NA’s work and remain competitive during those timezones instead of taking the easy road by recruiting EU guilds to PvD for ~8 hrs a day, every day.
But I for one think that for once T1 is fairly balanced. Iron fields around 30-40 people + rallians as I understand it. Merc/WM easily have 30-40 + pugs. JQ might have a bit of a weak point in EU with just 20-30 RK + quarians (i think that is what you call your pug force?) But honestly that sounds fairly balanced to me. Everything else is the same it was 2-3 weeks ago when BG was in 1st.
How is that balanced? WM is a SEA guild and can only manage push into EU time 1-2 days a week at most (and only if gaining the lead is achievable). IRON on the other hand is EU and play during that time every day.
As for the rest of you complaining about SoR’s NA coverage. I can’t help but laugh. Tell me something. How does it feel to have paper walls and gates while everything we have is t3? That is what we have had to deal with every single day.
Oh poor you, that’s what JQ and BG’s Oceanic/SEA players had to put up with every day as well.
My GOD SOR, wtf recruiting guilds? Only BG is allowed to do that. SOR has lost many guilds to BG, but HEY the 1 they got makes everything unbalanced, too funny
LMAO, SOR gets 1 guild, BG/JQ can’t exploit SOR’s weakness and the tears flow. Everything is balanced if you guys get T3 keeps going into NA prime time, but SOR getting T3 keeps, its unbalanced. I have listened for months how SOR NA was over rated, now the shoe is on the other foot all i hear is crying. Man up JQ/BG. You haters wanting easy mode are way too funny. Put your big boy pants on.
t1 has never been equal coverage. but dont kid yourself by thinking its equal now.
I guess JQ winning 3 months straight was ok ,while SOR was in last. although SOR kept coming out fighting, only reason the stayed in T1. JQ/BG are acting like they dont have a WvW force, though we all know they are waiting to pounce on easy mode victory. Don’t act like you don’t have the coverage.
LMAO, SOR gets 1 guild, BG/JQ can’t exploit SOR’s weakness and the tears flow. Everything is balanced if you guys get T3 keeps going into NA prime time, but SOR getting T3 keeps, its unbalanced. I have listened for months how SOR NA was over rated, now the shoe is on the other foot all i hear is crying. Man up JQ/BG. You haters wanting easy mode are way too funny. Put your big boy pants on.
Gratz SOR on your 1st win, seems a lot people think the sky is falling now that you guys got a win. You guys have been fighting T3 towers for months from both BG and JQ. Now that IRON showed up(and was able to carry what your SEA/Ocean held) and gave your NA some love, they seem to cry you only win, cause your T3 towers and EU. You guys did it with an all around team effort( all time zones) and the fact they fold against T3 towers and you guys didn’t, only shows how much you guys were able to over come. Gratz well done. 4 weeks and 3 different winners, how can we ask for more? Glad we have parity on NA servers!
Can someone explain this to me?
(please wait for all the SS’s, there will be 6+)
I saw this mesmer yesterday in EB JP, same server, same guild tag [DIE], same armor. We killed him a few times in JP (3rd floor, next to chest) and he was back in like 30sec. He is either using some terrain/fly/speed hack or other mesmer to port (which is really unlikely)
If you look at the first few of my pics, you can see he clearly teleports using an obvious hack across the canyon then back after he gets downed/raises himself.
Stuff like this makes me not even want to play.
I even have video evidence and have already reported him to Anet.
On a side note, JQ has no queues, when people say we do, it makes me chuckle.
Also, EMP leaving have not demoralized JQ in the slightest. I’d say we are doing quite well honestly. They were given a map to cover, and we had to pull our forces to fix for the unexpected loss. So for being 2v1’ed on reset night, we are not doing bad at all. Especially since the map isn’t full for us.
Yea, you guys have nothing to sweat. You still have FOO there to carry you guys to a win, nothing for JQ to worry about here, move along.
300-400 ppt on weeknights vs uplevels, thats like being 20 years old and winning a race at an elementary school track meet. Congrats.
So your the kid nudging your older brother (FOO), saying hey, “I can’t win my own fights” can you beat these (SOR) bullies for me? Then you get to brag how tough you are!
I don’t think you properly understand the analogy. We regularly win on reset night, the one night where everyone comes onto the maps with equal holdings and the one night you actually find JQ NA having to put forth an effort. For your analogy to be correct, we would have to lose that night and every other night instead of playing alts or doing other fun things that life affords us. In light of your misunderstanding I will retool the analogy.
300-400 ppt on weeknights vs uplevels, thats like being held back 2 years in elementary school and beating all your classmates in a race. Congrats.
So if you guys didn’t have FOO upgrading all your keeps over night and giving you the lead, you think you still win? That’s a good one, keep them coming. Congrats on ignorance.
300-400 ppt on weeknights vs uplevels, thats like being 20 years old and winning a race at an elementary school track meet. Congrats.
So your the kid nudging your older brother (FOO), saying hey, “I can’t win my own fights, can you beat these (SOR) bullies up for me?” Then you get to brag how tough you are!
You haven’t figured out reset nights have become boring in T1? Everyone trying to upgrade everything the fastest. I have stopped playing reset nights, cause its like everyone does a stand off for an hour or 2. But ya, your right JQ def, has the Best NA team. Who is SoR trying to fool with 300-400 ppt during the week, sheesh. Weekends FTW!
Reset nights are boring? Well not boring enough for there not to be queues.
Sorry, didn’t realize Queues meant excitement my bad =/
You haven’t figured out reset nights have become boring in T1? Everyone trying to upgrade everything the fastest. I have stopped playing reset nights, cause its like everyone does a stand off for an hour or 2. But ya, your right JQ def, has the Best NA team. Who is SoR trying to fool with 300-400 ppt during the week, sheesh. Weekends FTW!
, that’s what JQ and BG’s Oceanic/SEA players had to put up with every day as well.