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I see, well changing my rig now would be stupid since its only been like 2 weeks. Maybe in the future sometime.
With the new motherboard and CPU and basically wud be a waste of my previous OEM windows. Maybe I’ll just make do with this for guild wars 2 and if they don’t decide to support multi core performance in like 7-8 weeks, I’ll then look into the 4670 k and z87
Thanks for the replies all, really helped me understand the problem

2 weeks? See if you can return your CPU/MB for a ‘restocking fee’ and then buy an i5-4670K. Usually a restocking fee is about 10%-15% of your total order cost (before taxes).

that is what I would do if i were in your shoes.

thats the things, theres the restocking fee and then i have buy a separate windows OS OEM. It would basically mean me throwing $120 out the door, just used for 2 weeks ankitten ot really prepared to let it go that easily.
Anyways, its just gw2 so im ok with it, the other games are working fine.
I guess it just comes down to what im willing to do for gw2, lol

why would you need to throw 120 out the door? Your restocking fee shouldn’t be more then 30-40bucks total?

as for the OEM thing, you got an OEM install with what hardware purchase?

You can buy ‘OEM’ software from a retailer (Newegg for example) and have it teamed with your or other hardware.

But, those are actually Retail keys not OEM keys, labeled as ‘system builder’ keys. They are just sold as OEM per MS’s EULA with the retailer. But you can only buy ‘system builder’ kits with Certain Hardware.

A true OEM key can only be obtained from a manufacturer.

not quite understanding this, so i bought the windows 7 OEM from newegg and installed it on my computer.
when i return my motherboard and cpu, wont I need a new copy of windows 7 OEM?? for that new motherboard

When you bought the OEM from Newegg, was it bundled with your MB? OR did you pick it out separately as a different line item on the PO?

sadly, yes…
bought them from different distibutors

Can you find the Link for it on Newegg and Post it here. It might really be a system builder edition (Depending on the motherboard) and not OEM.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

thats the link, on the cover, it does have an “OEM system builder license” attached to it

You do not need to worry about that software. Its system builder. But before you do your returns you must deactivate that install so the key is not tied to that MB anymore. That is the difference between System-builder OEM, and Manufacturer OEM keys. You can deactivate and move the key, where with your Dell/HP’s you cannot.

Here’s how you do that;

Press Windows key + X

Click Comman Prompt (Admin)
At the command prompt, type: slmgr.vbs -upk

Hit Enter, this will uninstall the product key from the computer and set it back to trial mode, you are now free to use it on another computer.

Then setup for the Newegg RMA and get your returns done.

oh thats great, thanks for ur help!

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I see, well changing my rig now would be stupid since its only been like 2 weeks. Maybe in the future sometime.
With the new motherboard and CPU and basically wud be a waste of my previous OEM windows. Maybe I’ll just make do with this for guild wars 2 and if they don’t decide to support multi core performance in like 7-8 weeks, I’ll then look into the 4670 k and z87
Thanks for the replies all, really helped me understand the problem

2 weeks? See if you can return your CPU/MB for a ‘restocking fee’ and then buy an i5-4670K. Usually a restocking fee is about 10%-15% of your total order cost (before taxes).

that is what I would do if i were in your shoes.

thats the things, theres the restocking fee and then i have buy a separate windows OS OEM. It would basically mean me throwing $120 out the door, just used for 2 weeks ankitten ot really prepared to let it go that easily.
Anyways, its just gw2 so im ok with it, the other games are working fine.
I guess it just comes down to what im willing to do for gw2, lol

why would you need to throw 120 out the door? Your restocking fee shouldn’t be more then 30-40bucks total?

as for the OEM thing, you got an OEM install with what hardware purchase?

You can buy ‘OEM’ software from a retailer (Newegg for example) and have it teamed with your or other hardware.

But, those are actually Retail keys not OEM keys, labeled as ‘system builder’ keys. They are just sold as OEM per MS’s EULA with the retailer. But you can only buy ‘system builder’ kits with Certain Hardware.

A true OEM key can only be obtained from a manufacturer.

not quite understanding this, so i bought the windows 7 OEM from newegg and installed it on my computer.
when i return my motherboard and cpu, wont I need a new copy of windows 7 OEM?? for that new motherboard

When you bought the OEM from Newegg, was it bundled with your MB? OR did you pick it out separately as a different line item on the PO?

sadly, yes…
bought them from different distibutors

Can you find the Link for it on Newegg and Post it here. It might really be a system builder edition (Depending on the motherboard) and not OEM.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

thats the link, on the cover, it does have an “OEM system builder license” attached to it

lack of performance with new rig

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I see, well changing my rig now would be stupid since its only been like 2 weeks. Maybe in the future sometime.
With the new motherboard and CPU and basically wud be a waste of my previous OEM windows. Maybe I’ll just make do with this for guild wars 2 and if they don’t decide to support multi core performance in like 7-8 weeks, I’ll then look into the 4670 k and z87
Thanks for the replies all, really helped me understand the problem

2 weeks? See if you can return your CPU/MB for a ‘restocking fee’ and then buy an i5-4670K. Usually a restocking fee is about 10%-15% of your total order cost (before taxes).

that is what I would do if i were in your shoes.

thats the things, theres the restocking fee and then i have buy a separate windows OS OEM. It would basically mean me throwing $120 out the door, just used for 2 weeks ankitten ot really prepared to let it go that easily.
Anyways, its just gw2 so im ok with it, the other games are working fine.
I guess it just comes down to what im willing to do for gw2, lol

why would you need to throw 120 out the door? Your restocking fee shouldn’t be more then 30-40bucks total?

as for the OEM thing, you got an OEM install with what hardware purchase?

You can buy ‘OEM’ software from a retailer (Newegg for example) and have it teamed with your or other hardware.

But, those are actually Retail keys not OEM keys, labeled as ‘system builder’ keys. They are just sold as OEM per MS’s EULA with the retailer. But you can only buy ‘system builder’ kits with Certain Hardware.

A true OEM key can only be obtained from a manufacturer.

not quite understanding this, so i bought the windows 7 OEM from newegg and installed it on my computer.
when i return my motherboard and cpu, wont I need a new copy of windows 7 OEM?? for that new motherboard

When you bought the OEM from Newegg, was it bundled with your MB? OR did you pick it out separately as a different line item on the PO?

sadly, yes…
bought them from different distibutors

lack of performance with new rig

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I see, well changing my rig now would be stupid since its only been like 2 weeks. Maybe in the future sometime.
With the new motherboard and CPU and basically wud be a waste of my previous OEM windows. Maybe I’ll just make do with this for guild wars 2 and if they don’t decide to support multi core performance in like 7-8 weeks, I’ll then look into the 4670 k and z87
Thanks for the replies all, really helped me understand the problem

2 weeks? See if you can return your CPU/MB for a ‘restocking fee’ and then buy an i5-4670K. Usually a restocking fee is about 10%-15% of your total order cost (before taxes).

that is what I would do if i were in your shoes.

thats the things, theres the restocking fee and then i have buy a separate windows OS OEM. It would basically mean me throwing $120 out the door, just used for 2 weeks ankitten ot really prepared to let it go that easily.
Anyways, its just gw2 so im ok with it, the other games are working fine.
I guess it just comes down to what im willing to do for gw2, lol

why would you need to throw 120 out the door? Your restocking fee shouldn’t be more then 30-40bucks total?

as for the OEM thing, you got an OEM install with what hardware purchase?

You can buy ‘OEM’ software from a retailer (Newegg for example) and have it teamed with your or other hardware.

But, those are actually Retail keys not OEM keys, labeled as ‘system builder’ keys. They are just sold as OEM per MS’s EULA with the retailer. But you can only buy ‘system builder’ kits with Certain Hardware.

A true OEM key can only be obtained from a manufacturer.

not quite understanding this, so i bought the windows 7 OEM from newegg and installed it on my computer.
when i return my motherboard and cpu, wont I need a new copy of windows 7 OEM?? for that new motherboard

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Your OEM key is tied to your Vendor’s Motherboard. Once you change the Motherboard You lose access to that OEM key. (Again hard coded in the BIOS/EFI’s SLIC).

I’ve always wondered about this. If that’s truly the case, why did my OS carry over from my HP laptop to my desktop without issues? Other people have had the same luck, too.

Once windows OEM is activated, it stays that way. So if you know how, you can do an OEM install and move it to another system. And it will work.
But if you try and do a fresh install, you wont be able to activate the OEM because the validation is done against the key that is locked away in the BIOS/EFI’s SLIC code.

I have tested this over the years, from HP to Dell, from Dell to HP, from either to a custom Retail rig, and One thing that I did forget to mention…Windows will deactivate itself from time to time, to force re-activation. If you need to activate and your doing an OEM install against a Non-OEM Bios, it will fail.

And because of that crap, in the end, I just dropped OEM software.

Now, instead, I have a VLK that I use :-)

completely true, when i was younger, i had this very old acer cpu that we bought, 3 years later, there was a problem with the motherboard, and when we took it to the repair store, they took $150 to install a new motherboard and since they had no VLK OS to use, they got a cheap copy off the internet and asked us not to update it…..
Since i was young, didnt really know how badly was being scammed but i said, sure we wont update. 10 days later, it gave us huge problems, things on the computer wouldnt function properly and a month later, we ended up throwing it out.
(I was 8 then and stupid…)

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I see, well changing my rig now would be stupid since its only been like 2 weeks. Maybe in the future sometime.
With the new motherboard and CPU and basically wud be a waste of my previous OEM windows. Maybe I’ll just make do with this for guild wars 2 and if they don’t decide to support multi core performance in like 7-8 weeks, I’ll then look into the 4670 k and z87
Thanks for the replies all, really helped me understand the problem

2 weeks? See if you can return your CPU/MB for a ‘restocking fee’ and then buy an i5-4670K. Usually a restocking fee is about 10%-15% of your total order cost (before taxes).

that is what I would do if i were in your shoes.

thats the things, theres the restocking fee and then i have buy a separate windows OS OEM. It would basically mean me throwing $120 out the door, just used for 2 weeks and i,m not really prepared to let it go that easily.
Anyways, its just gw2 so im ok with it, the other games are working fine.
I guess it just comes down to what im willing to do for gw2, lol

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lack of performance with new rig

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I see, well changing my rig now would be stupid since its only been like 2 weeks. Maybe in the future sometime.
With the new motherboard and CPU and basically wud be a waste of my previous OEM windows. Maybe I’ll just make do with this for guild wars 2 and if they don’t decide to support multi core performance in like 7-8 weeks, I’ll then look into the 4670 k and z87
Thanks for the replies all, really helped me understand the problem

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wow seriously… thats too bad, i rlly liked gw2 and would love to play it at higher fps, but thats like another $400 upgrade… forget that

u guys know of anyway to boost single core performance on amd processors?

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so built this new PC a few weeks ago and with GW2 specifically, im not really getting the performance I would expect from my build

im currently running on an amd fx 6300 3.5 ghx (overclocked at 3.9)
ga 970 – D3SP (I know motherboard sucks, for overclocking i will get a new one sometime later)
A gtx 760
500W psu
8 gigs RAM

im happy with performance of other games just not gw2 for some reason. Anyone care to explain whats going wrong? Roaming around freely I get around 45 FPS avg
bosses like the new jungle wurm are just HORRIBLE sitting at 6-10 FPS
Im sad….

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with the new patch, i cant see the glow i usually do when my sword is unsheathed. If this was meant to happen it is so not fair cuz the whole reason i spent 200 gold on this sword was solely cuz of the glow… plz fix this bug, i really want that glow on my back, it just puts together my look :S i dont no if u all feel the same cuz i no lots of ppl that haave this sword and they have it only cuz of its glow. Looks really ugly now on my back