Guild Wars 2

ginzo.8792:

and can i just add this ; to those who would argue that off peak or night crews do so cos it’s their primetime.

french canadians if they want to play with folk in wvw can play on NA servers and play in daytime prime if they so choose. playing on euro french servers is an active choice , they choose to play during the servers nighttime.

same with south american spanish speakers , they can play on NA servers if they choose , but actively choose to play on eruo spanish servers knowing they will be fighting against nobody in wvw.

if you choose to play at a time where you will face no opposition in wvw then you don’t deserve to be catered for at everyones expense.

So you’re saying that we do not deserve respect because we sacrifice the best 3W parts (big defenses and attacks) just to play with friends instead?

By the way it’s not that bad during the night, there are still opponents, the fights are even more strategic because it’s not just a “who has the most players and who will use clipping at best”, it’s actual tactics when you are alone inside the lord room and a group of 7-8 attackers are on their way (happened yesterday).

kefro.9312:

The vizunah canadians took 100% map in the night all week and by day is like this when is full vs full. They just lose bad in a straight battle (not straight cause they had all upgraded for the french to take over by day so we fight a uphill battle).
That why i stay in FS

Foto 17:26 today

You know what? That’s fine, it’s the last day of this week RvR session and FS has half VS points.

Oh and by the way, in case you did not understand it the first time, it’s a 24h / 7d persistent war, yes, during some hours some servers have a timezone advantage (like right now until 8-9pm, French people just came back from work or from school, are dining etc.. or later around 1am when Russian go to bed and French still can play with full force for an hour or so) .

So yes, this is a persistent war, the only number that matters here is the global score, and the global score kinda speak by itself. (2x more points…the nighttime isn’t lasting twice as long as the daytime I guess, the period without any queues on the servers last maybe 4-5 hours, so what? How could we win with that much points if you guys dominates us except for the night time? How could we win if you dominate for 18 hours and we dominate for the 6 hours left?).

JPUlisses.8756:

With all this problems the canadian people still make fun of us, no matter how unfair this battle is, i wonder if people from actual france do actually play.

How many times will I have to repeat this: 90% of the VS server population are from Europe!

JPUlisses.8756:

So canadians saying europeans are hackers and humiliating them everyday despite its not even their server is okay, but saying canadians should play on american servers, is wrong.

I never said anything bad about guild wars 2, and always tried to report bugs/exploits when i find them, but community is failing big here, and im starting to feel bad about this game for the first time, for such a simple thing.

Canadians? I’m French, I just happen to live in Canada since 1 year, I have the right to play with my friends no? Why should I play on North America servers where I don’t know anyone?

And I assure you, I am one of the rare players from my guild to play from Canada.
To my knowledge there is just another one and a third one playing from California.
My guild has more than 300 players.

French Canadian won’t play on EU servers, it’s just pointless for them to do so.
It’s not even a night-capping issue, it’s just that when I come back from work, around 6 there is no way I get into the battleground, it’s 100% full.

Usually I get inside the Desolation map around 9pm which is 3am in France. At this hour, there is nothing else to do in RvR.
Most of the time I just do the puzzle jump and leave for some dungeon, map exploration or maybe I try to go into the eternal battleground (which is full, any time, for any of the three servers).
I just can’t wait until tomorrow to finally have some RvR action with my guild.

What I’m saying is that it’s bad for a Canadian to play in the EU server, I’m only doing it because I’m part of a french guild and community, other than that it means no RvR, less ways to create a party for dungeons, less players for dynamic events and most of all, being the subject to all sort of accusations.

99% of the Quebecois players are playing on NA server, trust me.

Oh, last thing: in Quebec 40% of the population doesn’t speak French very well. Hey, it just came to me, all the eastcoast of the USA are also only English speakers.

Now tell me: why would the French Canadian play on EU server while ALL the others immigrants (from UK, Spain, RU, German etc., trust me again, there are at least the same amount immigrants from Aussie or England than from France on the whole North America east coast) stay on their North America server?

Well, you seem like a decent and honest guy, so please, you have to stop thinking that nonsense, it’s quite irritating for players like me.

It’s 1am and we already make 100 points more than FS So much for night-capers.

Pherenice.8124:

Vizunah Sqaure – Hero’s of the night – Runner’s from the light.

Oh man you french should wait when the serious WvW guilds can get some more guild members on the battlefield at prime time

Not much to brag about anymore ? its getting silent on the other side ? no more play ?

Please stop showing your face inhere and fight us at primetime like real men do, dont hide behind your night crew to show pics of scores.

Deso and Far shiver proofed the complete oposite of what your pro WvW guilds claimed.
Your nothing special and you should be ranked 6 or 7 on the ranking list.

Lets see what tomorow brings

Well I’d like to play but I’m working at the moment, to get money for my family, like real men do, right?

To my mind, the only thing Deso and FS proved is that they do not belong in the top of the ranking.

nilco.8457:

albi.9518:

Just cap everything and get your keeps ready for the French prime-time in about 30 minutes

And stop talking about the nightcapers on this server, it makes no sense at all.

Everything is capped before the night crew come in, around 2am. There is nothing else to do for us so we usually end up in the Eternal Battlegrounds.

WROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG, everything is green at 4am CEST (paris time) before that its very blue and green.

Screenshot @ page 4 proves you wroooooong: everything is already green at 3am.
But wait.
EVERYTHING.
It does take some time to cap stuff. Moreover there are still some fights going on, even at 3am.
What does that mean? Maybe, just MAYBE, the most important portions of the map were capped way before 3am. You don’t cap supply if you still have keeps to take.

Maybe the map is green at 3am BECAUSE the fight VS versus FS was terminated a few hours before.

Like around 1am. Letting 2 hours for the winning team to cap all the supply camps, sentinels and to start upgrading everything.

You guys act like it takes 30 minutes to cap everything. When I say the map is full green around 2am, the map is FULL GREEN around 2am. The fights and the control of the map was won way before.
This, or else, we fight equally until midnight and then, suddenly, all the FS and Deso players go to sleep at the same instant letting VS a full map for some PvE action.

Just cap everything and get your keeps ready for the French prime-time in about 30 minutes

And stop talking about the nightcapers on this server, it makes no sense at all.

Everything is capped before the night crew come in, around 2am. There is nothing else to do for us so we usually end up in the Eternal Battlegrounds.

Ruith.5861:

Phaedryn.3698:

The problem you (and many others on this forum) seem to be having is one of expectations.

You are correct in saying that the problem is one of expectations. Most of us expect an enjoyable experience that is competitive. Most of the great team activities on this planet are based on good competition. The ones that are not have been lost by the wayside, the rejects in the evolution of games.

Competition is what this post is about. It’s not about what WvW was “intended” to be. It is clear that it was intended to be imbalanced. I am in complete agreement. But it just isn’t good competition. That’s my point. It is a point that I read about in game, on here, and elsewhere on the internet about this format that is increasingly irritating people.

You cannot ignore the fact that there are thousands upon thousands of players who are unhappy at what they had expected to be an enjoyable competition when they first bought the game to turn out to be just another server dash that results in bizarre, other-worldly matchups that have no reflection whatsoever on real human interactions that can trigger enjoyable experiences in customers.

From a business point of view, it is illogical to have one server happy and the other two unhappy if you also intend there to be an equal distribution of players across the three servers under consideration. Therefore, the intentions of the creators of WvW must have been for the vast majority of people who want to engage in WvW to move to the winning team server by purchasing tokens. The longer the matches, the more entrenched the winning team gets, the more people on the losing teams decide to hop servers for the while. Maybe whole guilds will move. Just you wait and see, it’s very clever in design, and it will make money.

If you still think it’s a decent competitive activity, then you are a mug.

You argument fails because it’s obvious you see the score system as the only reward for playing 3W.

3W is not about the score, it’s not about who gets the more keeps, it’s about large-scale fights between organized huge teams for the control of a map. The fighting, the strategy, the defense and attacks ARE where the fun is, only the fact to have part in such a thing is a reward by itself.

Look at board games, like, for the most famous, Risk. When you play Risk, you have some losers and a winner. Well, despite that, everyone around the table will enjoy the game, will take pleasure by making long-term strategies, hiding his intentions etc. The game itself is enjoyable, not the reward at the end. It’s the same for 3W.

Locke.1680:

Dude, you just told me you killed him YET you still don’t know who it is?

Stop making up lies, there could easily be people inside.

You cannot see the player’s name, just the skin and eventually the guild (which could be enough to make the statement that it was the same person).

I don’t know if this hacking thing is true or false, I’m not playing right now.

Casta.5697:

albi.9518:

Well, you want to know what’s the general mood for VS players these past 2 days?

“Let them have some crumbs”.

Suuure buddy, that mood only changes when everyones in bed and you can pvp gates and guards. As one of your members already said, thats where you get your fun. HF

Nope, actually I’m from the night shift and lately we let deso take all the points they want. I mean, it’s not like we have more than 100k in advance.

Edit: I don’t see any FS player in Deso borderlands map during the night, except at the puzzle jump.

Edit2: yeah, I do the puzzle jumps during the night shift. Because we don’t bother fighting Deso for a few points, usually when I start playing around 2am everything is already green.

Casta.5697:

Glor.2485:

Oh great, so you steamroll Deso and VZ while their players are at work…

Score from 5min ago.

I have only one question : VS, Y U CRUSHING us so bad?

Well, you want to know what’s the general mood for VS players these past 2 days?

“Let them have some crumbs”.

Zanko.9801:

I was reading a lot of this threads about nightcapping and whatsoever, because I’m from FS and found myself stopping queuing WvW ’cause of VS superiority in holding the points at night. This was after I woke up at 6am GMT+2 and found the piechart pretty much all green.

I thought that this should be really addressed by Anet because was a really bad design flaw, then I found a sentence that made my day, and I stopped bothering about the problem at all.
“WvW is not PvP. "

It is not balanced, is not fair at all, is not for casual nor for hardcores, since the first can’t make a real impact and the seconds aren’t allowed to express their full potential due to queues and the fact that the system wants to keep WvW “viable” for casuals. You have to be in a guild, therefore needs social intercation, and this social interaction is what makes or brakes the matches. So it’s basically a social challenge, not a game challenge at all.

So, it’s simply not PvP. And now I understood why I naturally quit this activity. If you’re looking for a sensed PvP challenge, then WvW is not for you, nor for me.

I’m pretty sure that when all the guys interested in PvP leave this discussion, it will die bi itself, considering that it’s impossible to balance a thing at IS NOT MEANT to be balanced. It’s Pve, we all know it a way or another.

It’s not pve nor pvp, it’s WvW.

It is a persistent war about taking control of a map, it’s like a board game without ending.

You cannot compare and it’s normal for players who like classic pvp arenas like 5v5 to hate it. Why?

Simply because pvp arenas requires player skill, mastering your character and is a highly rewarding mode, small investment for fast pleasure, like MOBA games or FPS.

On the other hand, WvW requires organization, guilds, map-awareness, strategy, group-skill (being able to follow your leaders, while managing your character well enough to optimize the results of your attacks or defenses) and is less rewarding if you play solo, the only way to play WvW is with a team, a vocal chat and a viable strategy based on alliances and long-term. If you can manage to get all these components, then the reward will be exceptional, sharing the happiness of a big victory after some hours defending a point with your teammates is great and happens only in WvW (and on a smaller scale during big PVE events, the pleasure is similar but far less durable).

DAOC alliances worked quite well as far as I remember.

AngelofAwe.4972:

for those talking about an alliance between FS and Deso, are you not thinking ahead or are you just ignorant of the facts?

all our servers have long queues…which means the organized guilds have trouble getting in and most of the zergs will consist of completely random people.

now…i assume you all have a lot of gaming experience yourselves and will understand this argument. EVEN IF the FS and Deso formed an alliance, do you really think there is ANY way in beep that you could keep the random zergs of FS and Deso pugs from just running into each other and starting to smack each other to death despite your leaders using caps lock + rage trying to prevent that from happening.

the answer is simple, no.

Then it seems to me that it’s your first WvW game.

The point with a three servers setup IS TO allow alliances. It doesn’t take an organized guild, just a couple of guys on the map tchat can give basics directions and once the mob start following them, every other pickup players will do the same.

The thing I see here is players looking for excuses, in my opinion this is just a matchmaking problem, VS should be against a server with the same population at night (and yet, I’m sure there are as many players on FS and Deso than on VS during the night, it’s just a matter of organization).

By the way, this morning, between 4 and 6am, I saw a lot of Deso players capping points and even taking a keep, that was interesting.

Hrist.8972:

You night players seem to be so entitled. “Come later to fight our night teams” as if everyone could actually do that. And you almost act like sleeping is some sort of a crime in “hardcore” scene.

Well yeah, I consider that someone tagging himself as a “hardcore player” might be able to fight during the night because that is a part of the game…

Hardcore means fully dedicated player in my book. I’m not a hardcore player, I just play when I have time, same goes for most of the players in the night teams, yes, some of them play really a lot but most are just regular guys preferring to play during the night.

You just totally overthought my post, I play maybe 2 hours per day, I’m just level 40. I’m not talking about any “scene”. I’m just reacting to the post above.

And, it has been said already tons of times, there are as many players on VS and on FS at, say, 5am. It’s just a question of organization, while we play as a team the opposing players are just doing puzzle jumps. I’m not saying that to imply that the players are bad or anything, just that they lack leadership around these hours, and maybe some hardcore 3W players is what they need to fight against the nightcaping.

kefro.9312:

Me and my friends are just going for another game until this problem is fixed, we are hardcore players and our end game is wvwvw so if its broken fix it or the game is dead for us.
Its a simple fix, just balance the number of players on battle grounds so we can go to a low population server this will reduce the queue time by spreading ppl to servers and also prevent night raid against empty servers

If you are “hardcore” wvwvw players, then find a few buddies like you and come later to fight our night teams, we are never more than 10 guys.

And your solution is bad, my alliance has more than 2k players on VS, if you want the servers population to be parted equally between the servers, that mean we’ll be able to get bigger organized groups of the alliance in the battlefield. Right now we have to fight with a majority of players being random pickups. You don’t want to fight versus a map full of players following the same lead on vocal.

Villagebase.8536:

I completely agree, I have been in WvW, almost destroyed the [FR] “Reinforced Wall” then get completely massacred by the invisible characters AoE’ing us.

This is a defense strategy that every organized guild uses (we saw Nugos defend their fortresses the exact same way).

I agree that the clipping is regrettable but there is nothing else to do than waiting for a fix about it, other than that it’s not really exploited on purpose, it’s just a defensive strategy (letting the attackers think the fort is not defended, like you told “it was almost destroyed”, then getting out at the exact same second with full force to wipe the opposing army using the surprising factor and, unfortunately, the clipping).

There are many counters to this strategy.

@Mescaline yeah quote is broken from time to time :-/

I was not specifically referring to you in the “whinners”, it’s just the general feeling I get from all these posts about the imbalance, the Canadians etc.

I even agree with you that there should be some sort of balancing, as I said reducing the points when a server is outnumbered would work.

At last, I don’t think it’s game breaking, it just will take some time to have eventually better matchmaking or to have the possibility to motivate the population of your server, to get some guilds to create night teams or even to make an alliance between Deso and FS. It’s just that it’s not something that will come up right during the first big week WvW event, it will take time.
I guess the next week will be probably more challenging for us, I’m sure some FS and Deso big guilds are already making alliances to ruin us :-D

Mescaline.2743:

He used the PvP word , not me , i just quoted his post .
As already said i’m not gonna answer since you guys can’t understand the difference between whining and demanding balance , also looks like the main argument is that we have people doing jumping puzzle instead of wvw at 5am , we are such a bunch of pve carebears .
Once again i quit the conversation , have fun knocking on ’em doors.

I would really approve some balance (like reducing the number of points everyone gets when the outnumbered buff is active for example) but the fact is, right now, you guys are whining because VS manage to have organized teams during the night to keep putting pressure on you.

It’s even not especially no-life players, it’s just an organization of groups with a rotation, like a group for the evening, a group for the night, a group for the morning…It all depends on everyone’s availability and work schedule.

Mescaline.2743:

vic.7065:

I don’t think there is much to discuss here. Fact is Vizunah Square has a lot of dedicated PvP players that are active during the night while the other servers do not.

The meaning of the PvP word canged from player versus player in player versus door ?
Why nobody said that to me before?

Not gonna say they are not pvp rvr wvw oriented , as i already said i think they are the most organized server and would win also without night capping .
Anyway since looking for balanced fights is whining according to you guys i quit the conversation .
Have fun .

It’s not PvP, it’s WvW.
When the objectives are to take fortresses, yes, at some point you will attack a door.
If there isn’t any player to defend it, live with it and don’t come whining.

FS and Deso have as many night players as VS, it’s just that VS nightplayers are part of an alliance with leads on vocal while it seems than FS and Deso just have random players doing puzzle jumps.

If you want to prevent the nightcaping, just organize your nightplayers, eventually make an alliance with Deso to even TAKE something.

Last Friday, when we played with a group of 5 CPC versus the Nugos bus, we still were able to take a lot of supplies, kill doliaks and destroy some fortifications to empty the stock of provisions. We were 5 from the guild with a leader on vocal and maybe 1 or 2 pickups following us.

Uder.9187:

CLundkvist.7814:

Im done with WvWvW untill this gets fixed, Vizunah Square [FR] is the only server in europe who has that much activity going on during night time weekdays. How come? i still think thats its canadians in FR. so much activity during night and the only server? i suggest u getting switched over the america.

of course, you see a lot of them:

http://www.casugaming.com/index.php?www

running around at night and they are a 500+ wvw guild from canada.

That’s always funny, the people who whine about Casu are most certainly not WvWvW players, because they are NEVER seen on the battlefields. You want to know why? Because this is a fake guild, the real Casu guild has only 15-20 members from France.

Kirn.3129:

Now, the talk about FS nightcapping coming from VS just sounds dumb. Again, Disorder League had a full 48 hours event from right after the rotation. So during the night and during the day we provided about the same effort. Now, I personally was right at the start of the fight, at night from Friday to Saturday, on VS Borderlands. And I can tell you that we fought no PvE there. We fought the usual French night players, I think. And it was not very easy. Easier than later during the day, but it was not by any change a nightcapping. Fair fight if you ask me. During the day time VS offered better resistance and, it seemed, better coordination. After we finished our event… well, yeah, whole map got green and we have what we have now here on forum. Oh, btw, today is the free day for GF, so we weren’t going to WvW in full force.

But that’s all is beside the point. The point is, both sides act shameful. I am sad to see people whining about how we cant beat VS both here and on FS chat. Those people drop our own morale, make other people stop trying. Which is bad for everyone in the long run.
But you French people aren’t off the hook too. From the previous weekends (when we also had an event and got the first place in 1-day rotation) I heard about loads of crazy talk on French forums. I heard about FS becoming allies with Desol, I heard about FS guilds with fake tags (I have no idea how they came up with that one), and now you try to spin a story about us nightcapping. Honestly…

While most of what you wrote is true and refreshing, I can’t believe that you say it was a fair fight on Friday night / Saturday morning. Maybe from 1 to 4am but after that and for at least 3 hours the whole map was empty of VS players and the Nug bus was still very active.

I was there, I didn’t take screenshots to prove that or anything, I just know I spent 2 hours with 4 guild-mates going from supply to supply, trying to avoid the bus, to do some damage control.

I’m not saying that to whine or anything, it was a great night and it was a fun hide and strike game early Saturday, with a LOT of karma and loots due to the outnumbered buff.

Seriously you have to stop with this american / canadian thing.

I AM from playing from Canada and I KNOW that we are really a FEW, maybe 50 (and that’s a BIG number) playing from here. No point on playing on EU server from Quebec, except if, like me, most of your online friends are in France.

And even if we were 500 canadians playing on VS, the point is, with the timezone, it’s just impossible to get in the map before 10pm our time, because when we get home from work it’s during the peak time in EU, when all the players are fighting hard on WvW.

I can get inside only when the big battle are finished, when the map is controlled by one or the other servers, that’s frustrating to a certain amount, but I still enjoy playing with french friends and sometimes I get the chance to join during some big battles and it’s really awesome.

CLundkvist.7814:

Glor.2485:

CLundkvist.7814:

albi.9518:

Kniveus.7926:

Omfg, FS won this week end because they had that time where we are sleeping and all those russian start to wake up, so they cap all the point in 2 hours and keep them the day. Please A.Net, make some servers only for those russians with that time zone, they are annoying !

No. The point is, FS did the same as we do usually and we didnt whine about it. We fought hard during the weekend to reduce the points difference and eventually took the advantage during Sunday afternoon / evening battles.

It was a great WvW weekend BECAUSE they nightcaped, forcing us to react, to defend and to play more aggressively.

this is how i think the most sees it:

Weekdays day time = Far Shiverpeak vs Desolation vs Npcs

Weekdays night time = npcs vs npcs vs Vizunah Square [FR]

Weekends day time = Far Shiverpeaks vs Desolation vs Vizunah Square [FR]

Weekends night time = Far Shiverpeaks vs Desolation vs Vizunah Square [FR]

Simple fact:

Weekdays = 5
Weekends = 2

who will win?

everyone alrdy knows this by now

The fact is, VZ continuously gets more points than FS on daytime, as shown this week-end. FS was only ahead because of nightcapping, and it only took one night and two days to overthrow this “unfair” advantage (okay, nightcapping is worse during weekdays than weekends, lets say its even…)

right now they are becuase ppl stop care for this. since VS capture 100% of the map and uppgrade everything during the night ofc its godkittenhard to capture wile desolation also are there. many daytimes FS still have had more capture until night strikes again

Guess what? That’s exactly why the WvW matchup opposes THREE servers.

Just make an alliance between FS and Desolation to counter the nightcaping and profit (well, at least try) during daytime.

To be honest I’m a french canadian and I play on VS to be with my friends, when I have the chance to get into WvW (not often, when I come back from work it’s impossible to get in, I have to wait until 10pm my time, 4am yours, to get in) the map is already fully green, there are 20 people from VS doing puzzle jumps or roaming the map to get some pvp action and the same amount approximately from FS and Deso.
If these guys played together instead of doing nothing, you’d be able to cap everything as much as we do.

Ending note, I’m a french canadian and I’m the only one I know about in my guild (CPC, 480 members). All my Quebecois friends play on North America servers.

CLundkvist.7814:

albi.9518:

Kniveus.7926:

Omfg, FS won this week end because they had that time where we are sleeping and all those russian start to wake up, so they cap all the point in 2 hours and keep them the day. Please A.Net, make some servers only for those russians with that time zone, they are annoying !

No. The point is, FS did the same as we do usually and we didnt whine about it. We fought hard during the weekend to reduce the points difference and eventually took the advantage during Sunday afternoon / evening battles.

It was a great WvW weekend BECAUSE they nightcaped, forcing us to react, to defend and to play more aggressively.

this is how i think the most sees it:

Weekdays day time = Far Shiverpeak vs Desolation vs Npcs (favor FS)

Weekdays night time = npcs vs npcs vs Vizunah Square [FR] (favor VS with 100% = the winning factor)

Weekends day time = Far Shiverpeaks vs Desolation vs Vizunah Square [FR] (favor FS)

Weekends night time = Far Shiverpeaks vs Desolation vs Vizunah Square [FR] (favor FS)

Simple fact:

Weekdays = 5
Weekends = 2

who will win?

everyone alrdy knows this by now

Sorry, VS is obviously winning after only one weekend of WvW, I don’t see your point.

CLundkvist.7814:

holska.4127:

CLundkvist.7814:

albi.9518:

Selo.1250:

“17h40 in France,”

Most dont even care anymore in FS, we know we already have no chance at winning when you cap everything at night. Its a waste of time.

Well, that’s funny because FS did cap everything at night twice this weekend, and VS is winning at the moment. Your argument is invalid.

you have no clue of whats going on clearly, are u even in any of the servers?

how can u night cap night cappers during a weekend when everyone is free from work and school?

And have obligations starting early during the day like family visits, taking the wife shopping and all other stuffs you have to arrange on a saturday / during the week-end because you have no time for it during the week?

just makes no sense i can stay up night times during weekdays and cant during weekends? i’ve played with people all over the world in all different games. the activity in a game rises ALOT during weekends.

You obviously weren’t there, the Nug bus was on the map from the whole Friday night until Sunday afternoon, 24h / 24.

Kniveus.7926:

Omfg, FS won this week end because they had that time where we are sleeping and all those russian start to wake up, so they cap all the point in 2 hours and keep them the day. Please A.Net, make some servers only for those russians with that time zone, they are annoying !

No. The point is, FS did the same as we do usually and we didnt whine about it. We fought hard during the weekend to reduce the points difference and eventually took the advantage during Sunday afternoon / evening battles.

It was a great WvW weekend BECAUSE they nightcaped, forcing us to react, to defend and to play more aggressively.

CLundkvist.7814:

albi.9518:

Selo.1250:

“17h40 in France,”

Most dont even care anymore in FS, we know we already have no chance at winning when you cap everything at night. Its a waste of time.

Well, that’s funny because FS did cap everything at night twice this weekend, and VS is winning at the moment. Your argument is invalid.

you have no clue of whats going on clearly, are u even in any of the servers?

how can u night cap night cappers during a weekend when everyone is free from work and school? this is were the actual battle comes and as proven FS dominated

I’ll have to reformulate: I played Saturday morning with 4 guildmates (guild CPC) from 4 to 7am, and the guild Nug, even this early, still had a 15-20 organized people roaming the map to cap everything. VS had maybe 20 people on the map at this moment, mostly random guys doing puzzle jump, doing the vistas and the points of interest.

Same occurred Sunday morning.

CLundkvist.7814:

albi.9518:

Selo.1250:

“17h40 in France,”

Most dont even care anymore in FS, we know we already have no chance at winning when you cap everything at night. Its a waste of time.

Well, that’s funny because FS did cap everything at night twice this weekend, and VS is winning at the moment. Your argument is invalid.

you have no clue of whats going on clearly, are u even in any of the servers?

I played early on Saturday (7am) and everything was blue. Same on Sunday morning.

Selo.1250:

“17h40 in France,”

Most dont even care anymore in FS, we know we already have no chance at winning when you cap everything at night. Its a waste of time.

Well, that’s funny because FS did cap everything at night twice this weekend, and VS is winning at the moment. Your argument is invalid.

Exactly Season. This weekend FS alliances (especially the NUG guild) were playing a lot during the night and were able to nightcap everything on Friday and Saturday nights.

Both times VS players were able to reduce the gap until Sunday night when we finally achieved to retake everything (and it was not very late. When I joined WvW at 2am there was nothing else to do than taking the few supply camps missing).

Hello!

French Canadian playing in VS speaking.

I’m from France living in Qc, Canada since 1.5 year, I like to play with French friends that’s why I migrated to VS.

Just to clarify some points:

- I am the ONLY Canadian of my guild (Insert Coinz).

- I know a lot of Quebec players, they have NO INTEREST playing in a french server. It only means more lag for them, and they prefer playing with their fellow English speaking Canadian players and with the USA players.

- Culturally speaking, Quebec is far different from France, Quebecois are more comfortable playing with US or other CA players than with French players because of the cultural barrier. It’s not because we speak the same language that we are the same people.

About the hours:

- When you speak about timezone, you speak about something you do not know.

It’s not because I’m living in Canada that I can stop eating, stop working or stop having any other activity than playing.

The point is, the big raids and WvW battles are won when I’m not playing (usually it’s between 6-10pm Canadian hour, ie: when I come back to work, when I eat, when I watch a tv show).

IF I have the possibility to play between 6-10pm usually I’m STUCK in the queue for this period.
At last, when I play after 10pm and when I finally achieve to get inside the battlefields, the map is already all green (yesterday I started playing around 11pm, we already had 570 points), so for my point of view, the WvW is absolutely not interesting, I’m just playing in VS to be with my friends.

EXCEPTION for the Friday night, when I got in game at 10pm we had a lot of great battles with FS and finally they took the advantage.

Most of the alliance people went to bed and I ended up playing with a small group of guildmates until 2am (QC) / 8am (FR), during this period we still encountered a LOT of FS players who did the exact same thing that we did yesterday night: caping all the map while VS players were asleep. You cannot say otherwise, we had the outnumbered buff for at least 3 hours during the night.

We spent two hours doing small attacks to take supply and doing damage control but yet, FS took a big points advantage just because of that night, and it was a great strategy, leading to this really exciting WvW weekend.

I’m at last going to repeat this: when QC play on the server, the big battles are already won (or lost).