Not that I think that counts as proof. But it would be nice if Anet let us see our position in the queue to help know if it’s at least moving. That would go a long way towards getting rid of that sort of complaint, I think.
Ask your WM buddies to log some bots off so you can get in next time.
Ugh… Let’s not start this again…. If you really believe they are botting report them. The rest of us don’t want to hear this garbage resurface.
They’re either botting or just terrible individual players… they only auto attack/heal, don’t interrupt stakes, never break off from the group to do objectives, and if they don’t wipe the enemy with their first push they wipe or take 15+ minutes to take a supply camp and give up and leave.
Any ground-targeted CC’s seem to wipe them pretty easily, too… static field, line of warding, ring of warding, marks, fears, anything. They just fall apart when they can’t move as a giant ball… Speaking of which, it’s incredibly surprising that they can stay so balled up especially when they’re in Korea. You’d figure that the network lag would be so variable from there that they would be unable to stay that close together without a follow command.
Just some observations.
So then you guys should have had no problem taking SM last night right?
We took SM about 4 times last night… I don’t see your point.
My point was the hold for roughly 3 1/2 to 4 hours last night when that’s all that was held in EB for Kain. One green speck in the middle of the map. I was in MBL so I wasn’t there, but I know who was there.
Not that I think that counts as proof. But it would be nice if Anet let us see our position in the queue to help know if it’s at least moving. That would go a long way towards getting rid of that sort of complaint, I think.
Ask your WM buddies to log some bots off so you can get in next time.
Ugh… Let’s not start this again…. If you really believe they are botting report them. The rest of us don’t want to hear this garbage resurface.
They’re either botting or just terrible individual players… they only auto attack/heal, don’t interrupt stakes, never break off from the group to do objectives, and if they don’t wipe the enemy with their first push they wipe or take 15+ minutes to take a supply camp and give up and leave.
Any ground-targeted CC’s seem to wipe them pretty easily, too… static field, line of warding, ring of warding, marks, fears, anything. They just fall apart when they can’t move as a giant ball… Speaking of which, it’s incredibly surprising that they can stay so balled up especially when they’re in Korea. You’d figure that the network lag would be so variable from there that they would be unable to stay that close together without a follow command.
Just some observations.
So then you guys should have had no problem taking SM last night right?
I’m actually interested to see which wins over here in our night versus your day.
The population imbalance is heavily skewed in your favor.
DB seemed to have more than you, though we caught you guys pvdooring a few times, so I don’t know. We got helped by the server crash in mag bl, yeah we lost a forward keep, but people were having less problems with the queue there. Good luck this week, its been fun so far.
Yeah I’ve seen that too, people have been queued for an hour and i just keep resetting my queue to bl’s and eventually get in. That seems to be the trick at the moment, though I don’t know why.
I haven’t seen anything official but it has something to do with posts similar to – https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Any-Tarnished-Coast-citizens-agree/first — when someone mentioned it, they said afk people go offline and it doesn’t get flushed from the queue. There are other posts, but anet seems to say the database shows players there, must mean they’re there and everythings ok. Who knows.
Regardless of watching a huge draguuma force attack together, I still had alot of fun, and got some much needed practice I just wonder how long you guys can keep this pressure going. See you guys online
I will say last night was fantastic, and both CD and YB put up great fights. When I woke up and saw that the map was completely turned, I honestly didn’t think it would happen that easily. I honestly hope we hit the wall next week, it’s just not fun playing this. I can’t think of a better solution to end these week long torment sessions for both sides. As for the comments about unorganized zerging, most experienced wvw players are simply not playing right now. What you’re seeing is a bunch of random people that sit watching the map for things to turn and then zerging it. It’s just not fun. The most fun I’ve had in the last two weeks was messing around with people in the jumping puzzles, at least I can get some small battles with some of you guys If the wall comes, let it come sooner rather than later, I for one am ready for it.
I see complaints about how they move around very coordinated, but if you’ve played with their leaders you’d know even with pugs they focus on keeping everyone in a tight grouping.
The only thing I could see happening is if they lower AOE damage, they would need to raise single target damage through the roof, otherwise why play a cloth caster versus a warrior? I’m hoping anet is considering some sort of counterbalance, especially with specializations such as staff. If you’re going to nerf aoe damage, then single target damage should exceed that of every class save for a mesmer, otherwise why play a class with the worst hp and defense? I’m better off rolling a warrior and gaining heavy armor and an autoattack that blows my single target damage out of the water.
Also you can’t say if you went out alone without a skald/bard/speed buff in daoc, you got around in battle quickly, and you got shot back to a port that you had to wait for. It’s the same kind of system in that you can’t come back immediately to battle because you died, you’re done with that battle, time to regroup.
Free transfers end the 28th, it was because they hadn’t implemented guesting, a feature that lets anyone PVE with any player in north america. WVW obviously wont work because that would defeat the purpose of removing free transfers.
I was really disappointed. Okay, I expected a lagfest (I’m currently playing on a creaky old laptop) but I wasn’t expecting dull, uninspired locations that I’d have to run between (with no mounts, of course) in order to reach a fight. I’m sure I’m missing something here…
What you’re missing is that when you die and don’t get ressurected, you’re out of the battle for a bit and the other side gets a numbers advantage, as well as if your side is victorious in a battle, you don’t have the other side just respawning over and over making individual deaths meaningless. This isn’t call of duty, you don’t respawn back into battle 5 seconds later after dying. Stay alive and work together and you won’t die. And capture say Stonemist Castle in EB, and hold it, and you can place a waypoint inside of it and get to every battle in half the time. Your best bet before you’re 80 is to follow the blue commander insignia and listen and learn.
Owning our half of the map on both of your borderlands = 2v1?
lol. you can’t convince anyone that there isn’t an alliance between DR and MG. It has been made very obvious at this point.
Would this be the same alliance that Mags and BP had last week? Stop jumping on the cross and realize that this stuff happens all the time. DR is in the same position BP is in here. Neither server has the right combination of population, morale, and coordination to actually attack Mags head on so we either have to fight each other or roll over and do something else for the whole week.
Or we could both gang up on Maguuma, but that will never happen because people are too pig headed to actually stick to such a plan and pug zergs don’t like that level of adversity.
This is the mentality that ANet has bred with their bloody ill-considered ranking nonsense.
Why is there so many QQbirds in this thread? Does it solve any problems your servers may have in T5?
Same reason people on Maguuma were complaining about EBay zerging/night capping/[insert whatever here] oh say… 2 weeks ago thereabouts.
No their population shot way up since this last week, they really need to change it so that random people cant bandwagon to the winning server. DR was playing fairly solid tonight but Mag was capped in every zone throwing golems at everything. It’s become a massive zergfest.
Has Mag gotten more players this last week? I guess people are transferring over, alot of good fights tonight though, had fun trying to sneak around the several massive zergs Highpoint of the night was at gods/arahs in BP with about 20 people and for some reason BP just kept throwing bags at us. Good luck this week!
Dear DR, please do your upgrades so you can keep your stuff (take a collection through the mail if necessary), please place siege, (start with this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgoTT3yWSXw if you are being killed more than 2 or 3 times trying take the same objective YOU ARE PROBABLY GETTING FARMED rethink your strategy. And most importantly if you dont have it get a community voice com, split it into 4 rooms and co-ordinate attacks and defenses. I saw good intensity at your east keep last night but you guys where derping doing stuff like building trebs in the middle of the road poorly protected. I got 49 badges @ your east keep last night, bring that intensity with some common sense and you will put up a much better fight.
I for one was very drunk during this magical journey, but unfortunately we couldn’t see the arrow cart hitting us and couldn’t get it down on the inner gate, and that cost us more than anything. The portal bombs at west were funny though on the outside gate.
Maguuma doesn’t have a significantly larger population than DR or BP. I know people won’t agree with me on this, but it’s true. I was at reset. DR and BP both had huge zergs over the weekend. However, Maguuma does have a more consistent population, and an almost unbreakable morale. The same people who play on reset are the same people who play the rest of the week. Most other servers drop significantly on Sunday night or Monday morning, but Maguuma does not. Even when we are losing, we have fun.
Maybe we haven’t been able to mass our people together as well, but Monday/Tuesday was the biggest zerg I’ve seen in the game. It’s disappointing sometimes too with culling/stealth forcing reculling of groups.
Wow so much hate towards Morningstar. I think he is a good commander.
Mag you have a large force then DR or BP that’s why you are dominating. Nuff said
No, while they do have a large force, they still are very smart about controlling supplies, maintaining their keeps, and forcing us off of their keeps — i.e. when we had SM upgraded, they took Mendon’s and forced us to pick between OL or SM. Devona’s had some arguements last week but most of the negativity seems to have subsided, and we learned alot moving up this week. I don’t know about you guys but I’m going to be actively ignoring players that immediately kitten when things get tough. That being said the battles this week have been fantastic, even in the larger zerg battles there’s been alot of portal bombs/backdoors/etc. Its been great and look forward to the next week
Is that the reason why people form big zergs composed of the whole map ? xD
No, that’s just the easiest way to take things.
I’d like to play WvW like the devs probably thought t was going to be played, taking one keep running supplies, upgrading, building siege, having to keep a few behind to man the siege before moving out to the next place.
But instead we have 40+ member zergs going round in circles capping places, moving onto the next one whilst the enemy zergs either follows behind then retaking, or deciding to confront the enemy zerg.
I think that what the devs thought WvW would be has instead fallen flat on it’s face. That does not means that there arent any good fights though, but real tactics are very sparce in it.
Maybe that’s what its like on your server, but most keeps are upgraded and defended on mine.
