Guild Wars 2

If condition damage/stat distrubution is balanced then petition Anet to add a dire amulet to PvP please

Soldiers is in PvP and not dire.

Perplexity is balanced I’ve been told, add that also… Oh wait….

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/GvG-community-ignored-again-why/first#post4780149

I can’t find the original quote the dev was referencing but this question has been answered already.

No need to update WvW when launching a new WvW season pulls numbers with next to no effort/dev investment.

It’s going to get worse as soon as the new PvP/GvG mode comes out and all the focus will shift onto that.

Hmm so alot of this thread boils down to nerf zerging and force people to play the way they deem skillful.

Varible map caps based on the others servers population are a complete fail and so easily abused.

I’m sorry this has some tips on how to deal with this spec but this vid is horrible.

You have one of the best professions to deal with P/D thiefs.
Try again on a zerging/PVT spec profession and get caught off guard, not arranged duels.
If you wasn’t dueling, most P/D thiefs run when they can’t win.
The people you played against need to learn to condi bomb properly.
Try against the perplex chesse build when you get condi bombed with 6-8 conditions and it’s pretty much gg.

You do realise that the dumb fixes suggested to fix the afk/hit and run leechers will cause them to hang around longer or for the duration of the event which will in turn upscale the event which is counterproductive to the design of the event.

I don’t know what’s worse the leechers/afk’ers or the crazy amount of trolling between the people who want gold and the “noobs”

What would you rather do implement a list of want’s from the WvW community that take time, money and resources that may have a good chance of improving WvW numbers.

Or launch a new WvW Season with a title track and a promise of better rewards and gain the same effect.

The AI in Guildwars 1 was good at the time but it was just as bad in way’s as this game, tank and spank was pretty much the fail safe way to play and it pretty much worked in all area’s of the game.

There’s nothing skillfull about a couple of war’s who hold agro while the rest just nuke the hell out of it, ya the AI move out of AOE but only if they can actually move or they die before they can.

This was the same AI that when a encounter went bad and you needed to run away the mob would pretty much chase you forever unless you had movement speed buff’s. This was terrible and at times very annoying as everytime you went near to the party members to try and rez them you would get insta aggro’ed again and the mob(s) would do the whole chasing thing again. Anet did make adjustment’s to the AI behaviour regarding this but there was still times when it would do the above.

AI interupt’s where instant and hit pretty much any random skill being cast, AI healing was spammed (this at times got stupidly lame in hard mode) on the monster getting hit and all it took was to switch target and sometimes the AI would still heal the target you stopped hitting hours ago. AI spikes where again near instant and would be wasted at the start of the encounter on the tank.

The AI in Guildwars 1 may have been the best in the world but all is vain when you indroduce faceroll easy mode skill’s like Ursan form/ Shadow Form etc

Substance E.4852:

CntrlAltDefeat.1465:

Daishi.6027:

Dalanor.5387:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RwKNkwcEZo

This is actually just depressing… sigh

11 dodges back to back. I marvel.

The initiative system (aka spam the kitten out of skills because cooldowns are for scrooobs) at it’s finest…

All profession’s have lame build’s but some people seem content on only focusing on the thief.

On another note do a vid about passive play!

Make a Mesmer one where the clones do all the work while the mesmer pop’s in and out of stealth/ dodging to poop more clones. :P

Or a condi bunker warrior that can pretty much ignore all condition’s and control effects while running melandru runes and lemon grass also regening a stupid amount of hp per second. :P

There’s other to point out but I can’t be bothered lol

Otaur.9268:

gjop.8612:

So when the OP is trolling people with his condi bunker build that’s ok? His build has a lack of counter’s and can be considered just as lame.

A condition Elementalist takes more skill than a thief. Elementalist only has 2 damaging conditions, burning and bleed. Now to get others we have to use runes and/or sigils to get more. It takes more skill to live and survive on a condition or glass elementalist than it does on a thief with glass or conditions.

Maybe so, but the screenshot the OP posted seems like a healing power condi build unless you run into him running a healing bunker condi build yourself there is basically no counter to it. (Unless other people get involed or you run away) This can be just as lame and the margin for error is huge for these build’s as you just facetank most damage (even a full glass thief couldn’t burst down the op) while spamming conditions faster then they can get removed.

On a side note I really need to run into EB naked or with low armor equipped and get backstabbed by a thief or hit by a glass build profession, waypoint to keep and equip my tankiest armor set and scroll up the combat log. Post it on here and scream OP :P

So when the OP is trolling people with his condi bunker build that’s ok? His build has a lack of counter’s and can be considered just as lame.

The forum warrior’s/trolls seem to be some of the commander’s, intresting.

Within an hour of this matchup I’ve been corpse jumped three times, this hasn’t happened to me since the last time we faced Gandara.

I was enjoying the fight against the necro in SM wall till i started lagging, shame I jumped of the wall to kill myself and got corspe jumped again.

On another note I got to laugh when “respected” server’s guilds resort to this.

Bethryn.4087:

MagnusLL.8473:

Funny thing about all the conspiracy theorists on deso tanking on purpose is how they promptly ignore all the facts

Talking of ignoring all the facts.

Go back and read the posts from your own guys who attended the server meetings. Read about why DVG left. Of course you won’t, because you’re in denial, but hey!

I’m not even saying I blame Desolation for not wanting to be in the same League as Vizunah; nobody really wants to be there.

It’s just pretty annoying for Silver League to have to deal with that as a result. Ultimately, it’s A.net’s fault.

One of the main reasons [DVG] left was because they where pretty much had 3-5 people commading 24/7 (with a guild size of 100-200 people) and where getting burnt out and getting no support. Support that Deso couldn’t give, some didn’t care about PPT, this guild alone where a large reason of keeping us in gold.

Some of them had a real bad attitude and some where also getting a bad rep for PvD’ing during the night and keeping us in a league where we couldn’t complete with the like’s of SFR/Viz…etc.

You do realise the [DVG] we knew on deso imploded within a month of being on Piken.

And I’ll say this again, I’ve known people on server’s lower then the top of the silver league and you do exactly the same thing to them that people are complaining to Deso about.

The fact some of the other server’s are rooting for us to lose is strange, so it’s ok for them to blob,zerg, PvD and nightcap but when it’s deso it’s a problem.

Wow are some of you still complaining about wether Deso should be in gold or silver.

I like how nobody takes into account that Deso’s ts server/forum was DDOS’ed and left us with no forums/TS for 2-3 weeks which happened around the time just before the league’s started. Funny how none of these Deso player’s who told you all the inside info that we tanked on purpose didn’t tell you this.

The hillarious thing about all the crying is this, I’ve known people on server’s below the top end of the silver league and you guys had no hesitation of blobing/PvD’ing and taking advantage of their coverage. If Deso wasn’t here you’d all be doing the exact thing to the other server’s.

Khrums.3765:

Too big for silver league too small for golden that is story of Desolation.

Silver league is all about good fights at EU prime time and reason for so many WvW guilds from top tiers move to silver servers, no one care here about PPT or night time PVE you guys doing, we seek fights not points for server that is reason this match-up is call boring. We could ask for bit more from ex-T1 server but you guys losing all t3 structures in just 1h of EU prime time, little or none resistance even with border full of players (queue) and catching up when L2 servers don’t play isn’t what we looking for.

I wish you guys success in rebuild your WvW community and fun in L1 after this league end.

Yes we’re a ex-T1 server with an emphasis on the ex but everyone saying we tanked so we could win the silver league right? Your post highlights one of the many reasons why we have dropped in ranking and as soon as a commander logs and nobody tags up it’s usually game over and this is a major issue for our server. The intresting thing is that when this occurs your server and other’s have no problem with what is boarderline PvD’ing (bragging and posting screens about how you owned deso also) but when it happens to your sever off peak or prime time they come and complain on the forums.

Are there times when we get beaten and outplayed, of course.

Knackers.8562:

gjop.8612:

Knackers.8562:

Nev.5316:

Funny how my posts are getting moderated for insulting apparently, but it’s fun to watch ag cry lol. It’s not our fault you guys don’t have coverage at night and that’s not the reason we are winning anyways, we are just superior. Most of the time in our borderlands we have unorganized people running around since it’s hard to get a whole guild in with the que , but we are still winning without organization most of the time so … what does that say about ag? Regarding the people crying about blobbing up it’s nothing wrong with that, nearly every server we have been up against do the same thing even ag lol, so it’s a bit hypocritical. And why is it that they can insult us and not get moderated while there is a different rule for us?

PS: About us being the only server who has good coverage the following servers below had decent and pretty much the same amount of coverage as us and they didn’t complain.
Gandara
Abaddon’s Mouth

Even Fort Ranik , and they did much better than you guys against us.

Most of the time? the only time Deso is winning is during offpeak hours, when we come online we steamroll your zerg, and every night for the past week does show that we are capable of pinning you down at equal numbers. Yes you may be superior but only because of your night capping capabilities, no more

Deso has ticked higher then every server we’ve been matched against during prime time at times, it’s nothing new or is it something new to you?

Again beating us during prime time isn’t really anything to brag about, unless a known commander is running it’s pretty much a cluster****.

And yes cause ticking 600 off peak is something to brag about while losing your whole BL and all other maps during prime time isnt =) and its not bragging, youre stating that youre superior in every other way, im just saying youre only superior due to offpeak coverage.

This isn’t aimed at you but 1 deso forum warrior/troll does not equal deso as a whole.

I’ll try and explain this abit to people as unless a experienced commander is running on deso there’s pretty much next to no coordination at the times when I’m playing.

People don’t follow tag,run around like headless chickens, people don’t scout, a large % of our dolyaks get killed by the random monsters, people don’t refresh siege, even siege a stones throw away from a waypoint, people would rather burn supply repairing a wall for achiv rather then defending, people ignore towers getting attacked but come out the woodwork once it’s time to cap it back and a whole other bunch of issues I can’t be bothered to type out.

It’s hillariously sad how once a exp commander logs and nobody tags up, a large number of experienced WvW player’s usually mass log or change boarderlands.
This means we sometimes lose our upgraded keeps and towers within 20 mins and the people who scouted/payed money to siege have basically completely wasted their time.

I’m sure other server’s have these same problems also which is why I assume when we steamroll them they may not have a commander or an inexperienced one, lack of number’s or the coordination at that time.

We lost SM a few hours after Ins logged off…

Well played to the Mesmer who completely outplayed me the noob ranger 3 or times 4 around QL/Danelon and sentrys.

I don’t know what more crazy, people who think deso are dropping on purpose to ruin other servers fun or the people on deso who think we can actually win the silver league. :P

RikR.6309:

That’s your view from OUTSIDE the guild.

We are still the same, we still recruited and trained everyone who had interest in WvW. You forget one thing: everyone was a ‘pug’ at some time, everyone.

As another outside the guild, on ocassions certain commander’s in your guild trash talk the pug’s due to their own failure’s and mistakes and the irony of this is where the majoirty of your members came from.

RikR.6309:

So until we came with the decision of leaving DESO, we were still recruiting and training everyone who wanted to join.

Does this make us a bad guild? Define bad guild. We wanted to change DESO losing streak and ‘we’ did. We wanted to train ‘pugs’ and we did.
We lost open field battles? Yes. Did we win open field battles? Yes.

At the end of the day we didn’t care as much about losing open field battles as we cared about winning but we never ran away from a fair fight, at least intentionally.

Change deso’s losing streak? deso has only won a couple of match up’s recently and placed second or last every other matchup. Also are you trying to claim it was all your guild’s own doing? Alot of you points came from PvDooring as people call it in the late night’s/early morning’s generally only requires coverage at those times which your guild provided.

I didn’t quite get the hate some had for your guild and had many good times playing along side DVG but you’ve essentally sucked a large number of potential deso player’s in about 6 months and then jumped ship when the going got tough. There’s some great memeber’s in your guild but you have a large amount of bandwagoner’s only intrested in basically leeching of your guild, remember this when the same 3-5 people in your guild of 200+ command 24/7, get burned out and people from DVG make just about every excuse not to tag up.

RikR.6309:

So we left because times got rough? How was the time when DVG was created? Can you remind me (us)?

We are not elitists and we’ll never be and you will know that we’re a fun guild to hang out with if you spend time with us… and that might be the reason why alot of DVG is going to Piken, that shows how people in DVG feel about DVG.

So thats justification for jumping ship because things where terrible then, I can assure you now it’s pretty much hit a new low now.

I remember way back when Elpro used to rally the randoms, myself included and it was all about the fun, bringing deso together and getting good fights. I also remember it all being about building deso as a server and deso pride. Seems DVG forgot about that.

Your guild evolved into playing the PPT game which has no real meaning outside bragging and decided by the server with the most coverage. I’m not surprised you got burn’t out on deso as your attempt’s to match servers like Viz/SFR was futile.

forget it, not needed

forget it, not needed

StressHead.9750:

A little birdy tells me DVG are leaving Deso soon.

Soon to be Piken Square Vanguard it seems.

KaMiKaZe.1874:

You are inside the keep, what do you expect? a pat on the back for manage to stay there or what?

What kinda childish behavior is it to come to forums and complain about someone killing your teammate that tries to res you?

Our server owned this keep and the lone necro was hiding, I engaged him and he managed to fear me off a cliff so I managed to jump down and go back into hills.

I engage him the second time and he kill’s me, fair enough. He then jumps up and down on my body goes away alil and a vet archer starts to res me. He kills the archer which was amusing as the archer put up a better fight then I did and then corspe jumps me again.

Me being childish will be me making a sweeping generalization that this is the only way gankdara can revel in any kind of victory because they can’t win by points.

Eugenides.1274:

All servers do this. Get over it.

Yes they do this and there’s nothing for me to get over as this has happened to me countless times but this is the first time I’ve seen it so rife from one server. I’m not looking to change the attitude of some player’s of a server but if you run a guild with members that take part in this type of behaviour not only does it reflect bad on a server I can only assume that the player is trash and their guild is trash.

I’m getting really dissapointed of how lame and childish some gandara are, so to the necro from The Knights Temple did you really have to do this again the second time after the vet archer rezed me to 90% health?

I would generally just ignore this but it’s constantly happening not from guildless player’s who may not know any better but from guilds that after looking up on google apparently don’t allow this sort of behaviour.

Martin Kerstein.3071:

Snowy.9580:

It clear that some have way to many breaks or free time, I do hope their bosses see these vids and start handing out the real fun!

Our boss was actually in the video.

There is this wonderful thing called team morale, having fun is good for it.

Completely agree, by fixing many issues with the Ranger and other professions which some have been present from the beta will be great for player/team morale and fun in game.