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On a SoloQ perspective some professions do have advantage, but you need to think about class stack, team comp and even on some cases a map will be a problem if you go deeper. On organized 5v5 it’s fairly eazy to do a tier list, given that 4 professions are a must have for any team and you have one space that can be filled with pretty much anything else because it doesn’t really matters.
I don’t think I can do a tier list without talking about builds, but let’s try not going too deep on this because talking about SoloQ is little bit too hard on this game. Being S+ a god tier (when you will do well on any team comp besides some cases of profession/build stacking), S a dominant tier (when you will do well on most scenarios), A a medium tier (you will do well depending on team comp), B a low tier (you can do well, but is heavily dependant on team comp; enemy and yours) and C a trash tier (when you can do well, but it’s very unlikely and you could use any tier B build instead of one of this and do better).
S+: meta daredevil, chronophantasma.
S: mender scrapper, mender tempest.
A: mender druid, power rev, power war, shoutbow, dh, power mes, any other thief build with at least bow. .
B: condition reaper, power reaper, condition war, condition scrapper, burn guard.
C: condition rev, ele fresh air, power ranger, condition ranger, rifle engi, rifle war, core necro, ventari rev and any other nonsense builds.
I can’t stress enough that the conquest mode isn’t optimal for what we have atm, not optimal for balance patches involving PvP. People say that 2v2 would be “unbalanced”, but it have nothing to do with 2v2, since 5v5 brings a lot more to the table when you try to balance things. You can do the math by yourself, i’m too lazy to bring ALL numbers but it’s fairly easy to get to the conclusion.
Let’s take weapons first. There are 16 types of weapons, each profession have access to X number of weapons, each weapons with their respective skills. Guardians have access to 11, Rev to 7, War to 11, Eng to 4, Ranger to 10, Thief to 6, Elementalist to 5, Mes to 9, Necro to 8. Now you have the number of skills of each weapon on main hand, two hands or off hand, the result is 71 weapons and 414 weapon skills. Seems a very high number, don’t? Well, in fact, this number »only« on weapons is higher than the number of skills on pretty much any MMO, but still, would be a balanceable number IF we wouldn’t take a lot more factors in to the table.
Now we have specialization lines, 5 core and 1 elite for each profession, with a total of 60 traits for each profession, that means 540 traits. Oh, well, now we have 1025 things to balance. Still, wouldn’t be too much problem with good devs and some constant balance patches here and there every week and so.
But, wait, we still have a lot more things. You forgot that we have things like boons, corruptions, damage, passive skills, cc, etc (there’s a lot more little things that you need to think when you put it on a conquest mode)? I hope our devs don’t. It’s not hard to balance flat 1025 things when you just need to throw numbers on a computer and see what’s balanced and what’s not balanced, but when you bring it to a 5v5 scenario that you need to take in account things like movement, the amount of boons and aoe damage, well, then it will be waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy harder because you CAN’T balance. That’s why we have meta builds that will do better than other builds, because those builds will be optimal on a 5v5 scenario that you can’t control.
Try to imagine those 1025 things on something like our 5v5, being susceptible to everything from boons to corruptions, movement speed, movement skills and with no balance patches.
I’m a WoW gladiator, I know what’s a competitive PvP on mmorpg, and as someone said before, our 5v5 looks like a worst WoW battleground, because on the bg, they at least knew that they couldn’t really balance things around it. There’s too much happening and it’s not a MOBA that you mostly have flat damage with predictable scales based on items.
I can’t stress enough how good for the game would be a 2v2 without conquest (not on a custom arena, because we already have this). It’s a lot easier to balance, it reduces the queue time, it’s far more enjoyable, it takes more player skill to account, it’s more competitive and a lot more things.
edit: the title is “unranked” because I think it’s fair to be unranked on the beginning, for testes. But it’s for sure not fair to be on a custom arena.
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If you lose that much without winning a single match, you really can’t blame your team, it’s something YOU are doing wrong.
What condi meta?