Guild Wars 2

Meanwhile Baruch Bay as usual, having highest PPT at night and mostly during the week

Looks like holidays are for gaming also

Mishima.2986:

WastedPenguinz.7289:

loseros.5912:

Looks like BB without the karma trains and blobbings looses potential…

Loseros, i missed u on the forums! Or were u having Spanish holidays/siesta’s?

so funny….

Doc Loser-os and Mr Hide its back!!

Are you also willing to leave baruch becasue you’re fed up of fighting vizunah?

Cause i know some guilds that said that ^^

Kokolores.2643:

The youth unemployment rate in Spain is around 60%, European statistical agency Eurostat said last week. Unemployment in Spain stood at 27.2% of the workforce in the first quarter this year, second only to Greece in the euro zone.

Stop playing GW2 get a job

Are you using the unemployment as an argument for their victory instead of their skill?

Don’t try to make this personal bro, you’ve got much more than me to loose, mr mercenary.

You can’t be proud of beeing part of a server when you’ve left from two servers already. And this is the sweetest thing i can tell about you.

XXXOOOXXXOOO

Mishima.2986:

loseros.5912:

Having fun playing against huge blobs from Baruch (60 to full map capactity blobs) during most of the day?

Blobuch Bay is in tha house!

you are awesome men!!

Because you lost all your ppl and anybody care about you, you come to the oficial forums to talk s**t about your server.

Guys this nerd its a joke, no more.

Bye Bye Asterilla, I hope you dont come back never.

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Boring week for sure. BB need a big score and we hope to have fun figths with Augury and River.

Ty to VoTF and WAR for the fair figths; we hope to see you again in the battlefield.

If FF was enabled… risas

Having fun playing against huge blobs from Baruch (60 to full map capactity blobs) during most of the day?

Blobuch Bay is in tha house!

majos.8503:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB6PJuBX3Eo

Enjoy

That’s how you show respect to the enemy clap clap clap.

Btw if you’re so pro, capping vizunah’s entire bl and beating them nude, why are you still loosing? I know your answer before you say it: “because they’re moar! The enemy is allways moar!!”

And btw those guys you killed there, those are making vizunah be number 1 and those are also beating your entire server. While the nude ones, are not making baruch win. Don’t forget it. So don’t be so proud of winning that disrespectful fight, while you’re loosing in points.

Again people start to blame and say this matchup ia boring because you loose… you have fights all day and you’re bored? Piken was boring too because you couldn’t win them, even though it was the best server to fight. You’re only happy when you win, no when you have good fights or do a good performance during your play time.

I just don’t understand your double morale. You want the points at all cost (Karma train) but on the other hand you don’t like building T3 structures, which gives you points. And don’t want to keep doing Karma train (which a lot of people say is funny) when your guilds start playing. No sense. If you’re a pvp focused server you’re 24h not only when you have decent players online.

Btw vizuna, from 6 pm to 21.00 and from 22.00 onwards, hide your children and wifes, specially in your borderland, because you will suffer from spanish guilds, so get prepared to be constantly hard attacked.

From 21 to 22 you have 1 hour to relax/reconquer and defend what you lost.

Btw, how does it feelplaying against the n#1 and loosing in points? You shouldn’t care of it, because tlyou don’t play for the points, while vizunah does, right? (wink wink)

I could say the same about baruch after all… your pugs and some guilds are really squishy, so don’t say, “hey you’re too bad bro, you melt in half a second”

And you play for the points too, else you wouldn’t need the karmatrain, or you wouldn’t be so proud of beeing in the third place just because you changed your way to gain some extra points in your mornings.

Please, don’t mix guilds with pugs in this discusion. They’re two separate worlds. I’m talking about the server as a hole, not distinguishing guilds raids and pugs.

majos.8503:

brakheart.1407:

two things:
first: I’ve heard a lot from my spanish collegues about Vizunah, and i really hoped you guys were a lot better playing :/ yall are paper Yeah, you ppl move about 100 players at a time, but just this evening i was with siN and im sorry to say this, but we whiped you out abour 5 or 6 times. Guess fighting isnt your thing.
second: is there any organized guild in Vizunah besides VSS? So far i’ve just seen that guild in action, and in the other fights, just a bunch of vizunah running around with no organization

Actually they are really good organized server… They don’t aim for kills or fights, they aim for points.. And not gonna lie they are the best on this.

All of us know the playstyle of Vizzunah, so.. try to keep clean the thread please.

You say that because you know it, because you actually fought them more than 36 hours right? Trololo.

As spiki said: “First of all I don’t know if you had ever fought Vizuna. If not, the best thing you can do is closing your big mouth.”

Desolation is now playing L4D bro xD

Theylaloba.9276:

First of all I don’t know if you, Asterilla, had ever fought Vizuna. If not, the best thing you can do is closing your big mouth.
The people of baruch sleeping plays much better than vizuna, and we’re allways attacking not defending. Our guilds make an excelent job during EU prime time, having a score in prime time similar to SFR is an honour.
The worst thing is that BB is your server then: What are you doing?

Select your difficulty:

Night shift and morning shift
[PvD] – Normal – Hardcore unmanned

And one of the reasons for the karmatrain is that you have easier times in the evening when sieging, because you’re so good attacking that need structures made of paper instead of T3.

Select your difficulty in the evening:
T3 upgrades – T2 upgrades – [T1 upgrades]

Score: Winner

PS: Do i have to remember who has the record of keeping BB homeland’s garrison for more than 24h (I think it was 36)?

So there you go, the zombies plague has extended from france to spain.

Proud of it? Proud of copying vizuna’s morningcapping style just for a buch of points and ranking potition? You really needed to do PvD to enjoy playing WvW? Wasn’t enough what you did? So sad…

The mindless zerg wins. Vizuna style is the way it’s meant to be played. Copy or die trying to fight it.

Darkman.1257:

Unfortunatelly all servers got cheaters. There are always no skills who need to feel superior in any way because they can’t click. Even in a casual game GW2 is.

“For the fifth or six time, the problem is not to blob (sometimes you need it to take anything), is ONLY blobbing. " – Exactly. If people blob from time to time or accidentally when meeting with other guild groups that is not an issue. As long as you can find small scale fights (20v20 30v30) among guilds. It’s fine by me.

Problem is as you’ve stated the Zombiezerguna aka Visunah Square play style. That are not blobbing from time time instead.

From my point of view everything above 35 is a blob. If you have 100 players you can split them in 3 groups instead of running 1 zone mega blob. Creating lags, skill lags and taking all the fun out of the game. If you’re fighting a well organised group and they are killing you. Train and try to fight them on equal ground, not take twice their numbers to fight.

That is my personal pov. That is how I’d do things.

I agree that lag is a problem when forming blobs. But what do you have against them apart from that, that you can’t kill them? That you want to fight the same numbers you run with AKA 20-30?

if blobing works, just blob. If lag is a problem, but blobing still works, just do it or quit.

Fed up of people complaining about you blob and i can’t kill you. If you at least killed them blobbing wouldn’t be a problem for you and therefore you woulnd’t come here to cry about “hey you blob, be a man and bring less numbers to fight me!”.

Just learn to play, or go play another game. This supports blobs. If you can bring 50 organised guys bring them and destroy those small 20 man groups. Easy and simple.

If this would be a GvG 100 vs 100 vs 100 and there was a ranking, you wouldn’t be complaining about blobs. you would actually be copying that playstyle if it worked for sure.

Still people keep posting about “mine is bigger and larger and girls like it”?

Stop complaining about blobs. This game isn’t a GvG style game. You wanna do them?, perfect. But then don’t cry about the enemy blobing since they have the same freedom to do it.

If you’re a kitten and can’t kill them, MAYBE you’re the one that needs to go play another game. Cause i think around 80-100 players per side per map is one team. If you want to addapt the game to your playstyle… good luck, but here Anet is the boss and blolbs are the best way to win. Deal with it or learn to kill them or just retreat and feel frustrated.

You want 30 vs 30 fights? It’s ok, but you won’t find them unless you do GvG, in open field or in the unoffical arena. Else, you’ll face blobs. Because the AoE cap gives you the ability to do more with more numbers.

And blobls should be respected. Someone managed to bring such a huge menpower force with him, that is a threat for guilds that are allways saying that you kill blobls, and pugs are useless bla bla bla.

If pugs or some unskilled guilds wouldn’t blob, you would be bored as kitten of killing them all the time. Since they wouldn’t be a threat, and would stop playing at the second or third time they get killed.

This is WvW ‘’no rules of fighting’’. Respect that first of all. Then come to cry to the forum about you beeing unable to kill people becasue you wannabe a superhero killing hundreds of people with just a bunch of them.

lunoh.1963:

loseros.5912:

Repuran.1859:

So the majority of BB’s points is from nightcapping non-europeans? Vizunah V2 then.

If you take dinner at 6pm and go to sleep at 21.00 it’s none of my business. Grow up and assume the rating loss like a man.

Someone’s jelous and mad becasue he goes to sleep when we (spanish people) start to play after eating dinner.

PS: at 6pm we eat merienda and picoteo. Just google it.

i dont think pvd is something you should be proud of…. and i can only hope you get vizunah next up so they can beat the crap out of you at night.

Excuse me sir, but I didn’t meant to hurt your feelings. You should be proud of playing at 6 am when we’re sleeping or going to work.

I can only hope you come on holydays to spain to understand our culture.

Repuran.1859:

So the majority of BB’s points is from nightcapping non-europeans? Vizunah V2 then.

If you take dinner at 6pm and go to sleep at 21.00 it’s none of my business. Grow up and assume the rating loss like a man.

Someone’s jelous and mad becasue he goes to sleep when we (spanish people) start to play after eating dinner.

PS: at 6pm we eat merienda and picoteo. Just google it.

DevonCarver.5370:

The concept of tiers has little meaning at this point and you should try to stop thinking of matchups in those terms. Servers are matched up by proximity of rating, not proximity of “tier”. If the tiers have ratings that are within the range of the random adjustment, they can end up fighting each other. This is going to result in blowouts, no doubt about it. However, we are not going to make changes to this after just 2 weeks of the system. There are things we can do. We will almost certainly end up adjusting the total added to each server rating to group the matchups a little more closely. First however, we need to let the ratings adjust by having more varied matchups like these. If you look at EU, which is using the exact same system, you can see matchups with numerous surprising results. The same will likely be true by the end of the NA matchup.

TL;DR: We are going to wait at least a couple more weeks before changing any of the math behind the new system, but it is very likely we’ll decrease the size of the variation at some point.

All you’re saying can be thrown to the rubbish. This shouldn’t be a random matchup like LoL where you have your rating and get matched with similar skill level players taking into account a RNG. Don’t try to copy that style when you only have ~20 players (servers in this case) because it wont work.

The previous system was working in terms of balanced matchups and a 1 up 1 down should work too. Why the kitten do you want a server fight any other? Theres only ~20 bro, ~8 matches, what do you spect to happen? There’s not much to play with so you can have diffrent matchups and balanced matchups.

Most of the people that play WvW are result dependant
If you start to unbalance the matchups people will stop playing that week causing strange ups and downs in the rating, specially when the previous one worked and matching servers with 3 or more difference in ranking, will cause those great imbalance they are already creating.

You kittened up your own game and don’t have the balls to revert it back ASAP. Same as arrow carts.

Ps: why don’t you make matchups manually insteax of letting the computer randomice them? Shouldn’t be a problem with so few servers… better than the mess you already did, you won’t at least mstchup people with more than 10 ranking diference and so.

Devitz.2136:

votf you have some kind of speed boosts, I’ve never seen somebody running that fast and that many times(but when there is opportunity to jump as 3rd – USE IT!)

NuKe + sIN = one guild now yep?
Everywhere together, so sweet.
See you on GvG NuKe

Some of us want to raid more hours than what we have scheaduled, but we don’t have the numbers or raid leaders, so we stick to the guild that is raiding when we’re not. Simple as that

See you in the GvG ^^

Btw if any other guild wants to do a GvG with us, contact me!

When will this be applied?

Boring night today… looks like osc and wic didn’t want to fight in open field near garrison, dunno why hope the fights at bay didn’t have nothing to do with that choice.

Anyways the 1 or 2 fight’s we did were fun.

Dranul.2094:

Recently on this very forum, I found out.. I and many others have been misleading ourselves with our entertainment and fun. Even as far as completely playing the wrong way in this game. I consider myself educated now, I never had so much fun as you will see in this video. Hope you will agree this is pure excitment and i’m hoping it shows through.

Never again will I find myself bored in our old style of play – thats fo sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1nPnuO_VKw

o7 TUP

Why you make them not for mobiles I can’t see it until tomorrow! XD

Mine is bigger and larger and girls like it.

Nothing more to discuss in this thread. Yup!

/ fun mode on

God bless the allmighty lords!!!!
They must survive at any cost!!!

/ fun mode off

I hate the outnumbered buff… specially when there’s football and dinner time

Btw so much fun late in the night with the siestas and cervezas jajajaja :P

eithinan.9841:

loseros.5912:

I think this has already been suggested, but since I don’t find the post i start a new one.

A good way to balance and/or disencourage zerging, could be a debuff that triggers when more than X ppl are close enough.

For example: when 40 ppl are in a radius of 1200 range reduce their attack 200 points. Or something like that, that scales depending on the number of allies around you.

I think this would make more fair for the outnumbered people to be able to fight a larger group, since AoE has a 5 ppl cap and Anet stated is due to technical issues that they can’t increase that AoE cap, that “zerg debuff” should balance the fight between smaller and bigger goups without affecting fun for the big group. (they’re still more and can use more skills at the same time)

What i want to say with this is that is not fair that bringing more people gives you more dps just for the fact that the AoE cap is limited to 5, while if you reduce the attack of the bigger group, their total dps, even if you keep the 5 limit AoE, it balances and gives a chance to the smaller group, although the smaller group has still to kill more people and make more damage, the dps would be the same more or less.

What do you think?

I don’t think you understand what game balance is.

I also don’t think your suggestion would help anything except to make WvW become small roaming parties because there would be no one left to play.

Think about it for a second. You are part of a community who has worked hard to build coverage on a server with a 24 hour war game and the developers decide to negate any number advantage because the literal minority of the wvw players are too lazy to go out and try to build up that coverage. So instead of working hard and building you WvW community on your server you come complain on the forums about being outnumbered and offer a suggestion to make the game more “balanced” when in fact you are unbalancing the game mechanics because of your lack of coverage.

Wvw is coverage wars. simple as that. Get the coverage and you win,but you can also wipe larger forces with proper siege placement, coordination and skill. But learning these things offers little reward, and takes a bunch of effort. It’s probably easier to just go to the forums and beg the developers to nerf my enemies in the form of a balancing suggestion.

Emmm… i’m not complaining about outnumber buff, i’m complaining about the metagame BE A ZERG AND STEAMROLL EVERYTHING NOMATTERWHAT.

And i’m complaining both sides, beeing the zerg, and beeing the smaller group (which could be of 30 guys actually, to say small is relative to the other group, if they’re 80, then up to aprox 40-50 is a smaller group). And if this is not large scale (100-120 players in a fight and only 2 sides), i don’t want to know what are you talking about.

They’ve got the advantage because: they’re more. Simple as that.
More ppl = more dmg, more people to be ressing, more people to be healing, more ppl to do everything. SO is this guild wars, siege wars, number wars or what?

Terrahero.9358:

At the moment Defense in WvW is lord and master. Its very difficult to break through even a smal group of entrenched and prepared defenders.
Right now you need a large zerg to take a defended keep or even a defended tower.

And yet here we see all these suggestions pop up everyday that just want to nerf or simply destroy zergs. Do any of you ever stop and think about the consequences of your outlandish suggestions?
If zerging is nerfed or impossible, who will be left to actually take a keep? A 50man zerg struggles against a dozen prepared defenders. What possible chance would a small group stand?

And thats only the direct effect. Indirectly if zerging is made pointless people will roam less, attack less and sit even more inside towers and keeps. For godsake people…

Nerfed to fight, not to siege. If my attack damage was debuffed wouldn’t really affect a door or a ram or an arrow cart…

So let’s everybody make zergs to be stronger? The more ppl i bring to the battle the stronger i am. Sounds fair.

No it doesn’t. And roaming is not a solution. They buffed too much defenders agains those zergs, because the strenght is in the numbers i repeat. Less people less strenght, harder to fight.

Truga.5897:

All that’s needed to nerf the zerg is remove the 5 target aoe limitation in WvW.

And you would be suiciding with retaliation. It’s good to remove the AoE limit, but retaliation would 1shot you.

But that doesn’t solve the strengh in numbers issue.

MiLkZz.4789:

Dayra.7405:

MiLkZz.4789:

“WvW, a place for LARGE scale battle”

Continue fighting the skill-laags should be sufficient!

The main problem of large scale battle is still that 100 times skill 1 is better than 70 times skill 1 and other skills rarely work.

Transfer to a lower tier like we did and you’ll discover what small scale battles are

Edited for you.

So, buff the ac, make trebuchet proyectiles unblockable and put traps so less ppl is able to defend, yes; but debuffing the zerg SO LARGE SCALE BATTLES are more balanced when the enemy has’t got so many numbers no?

And btw I like a lot running with high numbers (30-40) but i feel that sometimes is abusing for the 20 man group to fight us. It’s only fun when the enemy has the same numbers more or less. And viceversa.

I think this has already been suggested, but since I don’t find the post i start a new one.

A good way to balance and/or disencourage zerging, could be a debuff that triggers when more than X ppl are close enough.

For example: when 40 ppl are in a radius of 1200 range reduce their attack 200 points. Or something like that, that scales depending on the number of allies around you.

I think this would make more fair for the outnumbered people to be able to fight a larger group, since AoE has a 5 ppl cap and Anet stated is due to technical issues that they can’t increase that AoE cap, that “zerg debuff” should balance the fight between smaller and bigger goups without affecting fun for the big group. (they’re still more and can use more skills at the same time)

What i want to say with this is that is not fair that bringing more people gives you more dps just for the fact that the AoE cap is limited to 5, while if you reduce the attack of the bigger group, their total dps, even if you keep the 5 limit AoE, it balances and gives a chance to the smaller group, although the smaller group has still to kill more people and make more damage, the dps would be the same more or less.

What do you think?

Hugh Norfolk.2798:

Terrahero.9358:

Is it working as intented that Traps can be placed while in stealth, without breaking stealth?

And what about placing a trap and then blinking/shadowstepping away, which results in you finishing the trap from a distance?

What about both of those together?
Remote stealth trap placement underneath a zerg?

What about the massive advantage Thieves have in placing traps and using them as an effective tool in WvW compared to other professions because they can place traps in an enemy zerg?

Hi again everyone,

I will say we want there to be play with the traps, but placing the traps while in stealth has very little counter to it, so we will be evaluating whether we would like to change this implementation. Thanks to everyone for you feedback and concerns.

Hugh

You don’t play your own game. You should do it or make a test server so we do it for ya. Since you don’t realise or even have the knowledge of what each class is able to do when implementing anything.

Chuck norris can?

Senninha.4105:

Can anybody recommend me a server where there is decent communication and teamwork at WvW because i am getting frustrated at my current server. The server i play on currently is already stuck for months in the same Tier and while players complain on daily bases that we are stuck at a certain Tier we are not getting higher due to our own actions and miscommunication. The last few weeks a lot of good commanders also gave up because of this, we are making the same mistakes over and over again and not willing to learn from them.

Here are some MAJOR mistakes my current server makes on daily bases at EB:

- No scout(s) on our own towers to report incoming zergs
-Attacking SM while our own towers are paper.
-If we got T3 towers on our own territory we lose it on regular bases because most people think a paper SM is more important.
-No dolyak escorts to SM once we conquer SM.
-When there is no commander online people ask for one BUT if there is a Commander people simply dont follow and listen.

I personally dont need to play on a T1 server but i prefer a server where people understand the basics of WvWvW and actually work together

Are you describing BB? Hahaha just joking, i guess that what you state, happens in every server or at least in most of them. It’s in the nature of the allmighty mindless zerg to act like that.

Yeah, making just 1 randoms guy activates it doesn’t remove the fwct that is equal the trap for large or small gruops. So, if traps make their intended purpose, any gruop/zerg below 20 ppl will reduce their supplies at the same rate or more as anything above 20 ppl: up to maximun of 100 (usually 50%). While those 40+ blobs need 1 trap for each groups of 20 to have the same impact. I’m talking taking into account everybody has supplies.

So 40 man zerg will only get reduced their supplies with just 1 trap 25% of their supplies. Again, encouraging the zerging indirectly.

So, if a trap affects 20 ppl 5 supplies each, the mindless zerg will get more ppl just for the fact that the impact on eating a trap, will be less harmful.

Now, the little ninja squads will be in a need of sending a scout to activate those traps, so guess what? Ninja squad needs now 1 more guy to take a tower or whatever.

And those traps beeing set in stealth… just a kittening joke how 2-3 ppl/thieves can ruin an entire siege.

This is becoming more siege wars and less guild wars IMO.

Delays sieges, since most ppl will deploy 2-3 traps in the same spot, so keep rushes are now kinda stupid. Each time you open a gate, you now must take some distance so the scout eats traps for the benefit of the group.

For the mindless zerg, as I said before, that’s not a big deal at all, unless you place more than 1 trap so you take them all the supplies… And this taking into account you use rams, since catas trebs or golems aren’t really affected by this. Specially golems.

I think that Anet are bringing good ideas into the game but they don’t know very well their own game so they don’t understand the impact of the changes they make to it…

We’re in a huge need of Map rework, because in the borderlands 50% of the map is water and an island… where it could be more terrain for fighting, a strategical point or whatever.

Anyways, hope you enjoy sending your suicidal scout to activate traps before you enter a keeps door/wall since i guess ppl will setup traps there and someone will need to activate them.

Anyways last post here for me. I don’tt wanna talk with people that feel attacked everytime I post and stay defensive all the time.

Hope you enjoy this matchup and have no lag.

Vanz.5976:

Reann.9480:

loseros.5912:

I don’t care if there are 2 guilds of around 30 fighting togheter like some days that we faced HoB and VII (i think they were those) and generate lag.

Wait, are you complaining about VII and HoB playing together few nights back and having 30 guys in total againts the BB zerg, and these two guilds causing massive lag, or did I misunderstand this somehow?

You misunderstood Reann. He is saying HoB and VII both run around 30 then zerg up to 60 odd and cause lag. Just the old forum rule of doubling a guilds numbers to justify a loss. Nothing new here.

Lol I don’t care if they are 30 each and fight toghether causing lag, what part of that you don’t understand. It is really clear. I don’t care. It is ok for me.

Centrix.4065:

loseros.5912:

Jue.6493:

loseros.5912:

That screenshot shows half fg half pugs and you were not in that screendshot all you were half an hour ago. Sorry but i don’t need any proof. I fought you. Even with our 30 guys you where A LOT more than us. And that’s why you know have outmanned buff, since all that zerg left.

My group isn’t even in that screenshot, that is not even 50/50. I see you are running with SiN right now. You contradict yourself so much. I agree with you the screenshot shows less, less FG. It’s not my problem if you don’t have the same numbers as our guild sorry but there is no need to come whining on the forums like a baby losing his toy. What you are is a sore loser.

Sure 2 siN is the hole siN that by the way isn’t raiding today…

And i’m not whining about numbers. I’m whining about lag. And since Anet isn’t doing anything it is ONLY in our hands to make it lag free. And outmanned buff by the way as far as i know (correct me if i’m wrong) only means that the enemy has 25 more ppl… if we’re split into 3 groups as we were that shouldn’t generate lag.

You mean this sIN that isn’t raiding today (yesterday)?
http://censtudios.com/gw2/1.jpg
http://censtudios.com/gw2/2.jpg
That’s YOUR guild and sIN playing together. Makes me wonder what else you say is true

And if you don’t want the lag, don’t run around like this (And yeah Nuke is in there too, there were many more, but couldnt fit in 1 screenshot)
http://censtudios.com/gw2/3.jpg
You’re the one causing it, so stop blaming others for blobbing and skilllag lmao. You’d only make a fool out of yourself for trying.

Don’t forget there’s this wonderful button on keyboards that allows anyone to make screenshots. So next time atleast add some truth to your posts, because you’ll never know when someone will jump in and show you how it really went.

And no matter how big your definition of a blob is, and whether you do it or don’t, whatever, you can’t argue it’s remotely close to what we (most piken guilds) run with (mainly see sIN and sometimes VLK run solo). And we don’t mind if you outman us, but don’t come complain about US blobbing or US causing the skilllag, that’s just asinine.

When i meant today i meant tonight.

Unluckily i didn’t take screenshot since i don’t need to be prooving everything I say. I don’t care if there is lag once or twice, but not every kittening fight during 2 hours, since we’ve run with higher numbers without lag. But i have good one from the last matchup very funny.

Jue.6493:

As Ireth said, I did not experience no lag either. We play for Piken and we won’t tag off unless there are too many commanders on the map. Rather than causing drama between guilds maybe you should be concentrating your opinions to arena net instead of using us as a way to let your steam off.

I can’t talk with each individual from piken, i said fg as i could say any other guild becausw you can split easier. Anyways I do know BB blobs. But take into consideration who and when do blobs appear. From 22.00 to 24.00 aprox you won’t see many blobs in enemy borderlands. Guess why.

I understand and respect that, cause we do it too, but when lag is also part of the game something must be changed so everyone can enjoy playing.

I repeat what i said, i don’t mind if you were the only guild or the only commander. If pugs follow you, disable the commander tag or something simple like that.

I don’t want to create any kind of discussion, just wanted to say that every time i fought you there was lag and that it is in our hands, the players and mainly guilds, to solve this unlikely situation for both (since the lag is equal for both sides) spliting somehow. Running just with 1 commander followed by pugs only generates lag. And if there is lag the game sucks and if the game sucks i don’t care if you’re 20 or 300 it just lags and i don’t want to play it.

I have no clue about bay since i had dced before…

Jue.6493:

loseros.5912:

That screenshot shows half fg half pugs and you were not in that screendshot all you were half an hour ago. Sorry but i don’t need any proof. I fought you. Even with our 30 guys you where A LOT more than us. And that’s why you know have outmanned buff, since all that zerg left.

My group isn’t even in that screenshot, that is not even 50/50. I see you are running with SiN right now. You contradict yourself so much. I agree with you the screenshot shows less, less FG. It’s not my problem if you don’t have the same numbers as our guild sorry but there is no need to come whining on the forums like a baby losing his toy. What you are is a sore loser.

Sure 2 siN is the hole siN that by the way isn’t raiding today…

And i’m not whining about numbers. I’m whining about lag. And since Anet isn’t doing anything it is ONLY in our hands to make it lag free. And outmanned buff by the way as far as i know (correct me if i’m wrong) only means that the enemy has 25 more ppl… if we’re split into 3 groups as we were that shouldn’t generate lag.

That screenshot shows half fg half pugs and you were not in that screendshot all you were half an hour ago. Sorry but i don’t need any proof. I fought you. Even with our 30 guys you where A LOT more than us. And that’s why you know you have outmanned buff, since all that zerg left. Cause the last fights before going to bed i had not that lag fest.

Jue.6493:

loseros.5912:

Jue.6493:

loseros.5912:

Dude FG, can’t you play alone and not create this huge lag in AR borderland tonight?

I don’t mind if you’re the only guild in the map or the only commander. Just don’t generate lag blobbing so hard with pugs please, thanks.

I think you’ll find most of the time we roll alone. We can’t help it if were the only guild on the map? Do you ever see anyone from FG complain when you are blobbing? your answer is no so stop whining.

The irony is you are rolling around right now with CS, some DsD and other pugs. Don’t take the high horse with me buddy because it wont work.

CS only appears to assist, not to stay with us during 2 hours… and even with that we’re 17 cs and 30 Nuke.

So please, don’t say we blob, thanks. More when we attack you from different flanks and we show you clearly that each guild is independent.

Anyways, i’m not gonna start a blob discussion, just wanted you to get rid of pugs and have 2 main groups walking around and not just 1 mix of everything so lag would be lower. More than 10 ppl as far as i know stopped fighting today and went to scout tasks becasue of the huge lag today…

I don’t care if there are 2 guilds of around 30 fighting togheter like some days that we faced HoB and VII (i think they were those) and generate lag.

What i hate is that having the same number (or more) pugs around you, you don’t try to split.

The raid is 75% FG 25% pugs, would you like a screenshot? Were obviously playing two totally different games here or you need to go get your eyes checked.

then how many numbers where you running with to create such a big lag just fighting you at lake or briar?

Because the battle at northwest tower 3 sides was a kittening joke…

Jue.6493:

loseros.5912:

Dude FG, can’t you play alone and not create this huge lag in AR borderland tonight?

I don’t mind if you’re the only guild in the map or the only commander. Just don’t generate lag blobbing so hard with pugs please, thanks.

I think you’ll find most of the time we roll alone. We can’t help it if were the only guild on the map? Do you ever see anyone from FG complain when you are blobbing? your answer is no so stop whining.

The irony is you are rolling around right now with CS, some DsD and other pugs. Don’t take the high horse with me buddy because it wont work.

CS only appears to assist, not to stay with us during 2 hours… and even with that we’re 17 cs and 30 Nuke.

So please, don’t say we blob, thanks. More when we attack you from different flanks and we show you clearly that each guild is independent.

Anyways, i’m not gonna start a blob discussion, just wanted you to get rid of pugs and have 2 main groups walking around and not just 1 mix of everything so lag would be lower. More than 10 ppl as far as i know stopped fighting today and went to scout tasks becasue of the huge lag today…

I don’t care if there are 2 guilds of around 30 fighting togheter like some days that we faced HoB and VII (i think they were those) and generate lag.

What i hate is that having the same number (or more) pugs than you around, you don’t try to split. Or even if you try to split, you can’t because of whatever reason.

Dude FG, can’t you play alone and not create this huge lag in AR borderland tonight?

I don’t mind if you’re the only guild in the map or the only commander. Just don’t generate lag blobbing so hard with pugs please, thanks.