Guild Wars 2

If our main pop is full of randoms or small guilds… it’s a normal tendancy to blob.

Only big guilds prefer to play tactically spreading. The small or casual ones can’t do anything if they don’t blob. They can’t siege, or they can’t fight if they aren’t a big numbrr so the only chance they’ve got is to blob. Suprisingly, you can’t handle them so l2p should be applied to you maybe?

Dranul.2094:

Greetings to RED from TUP <3

Had a blast on your BL this reset, just luck I guess that 2nd time in a row (different BL this time) we ended up on same one as you guys. You “almost” played differently to last week 2 “seperate” forces instead of 1. Epic defences of Bay were had. Until at last due to time – a few logged – and bay was lost. Cheers to NR for the support in zone.

Rushed with our 6-8 remaining guys to AG BL where Nuke, DSD, CS (yes they were they DSD saw 5-10 of em <3) were engaged with Kiss + others in Garrison Lord Room. Managed to res the lord once and enjoy fighting on the edges of a huge fight. Dissappointed to see the spanish leave map entirely barring maybe 10-20 “randoms” afterwards.

Anyone notice how it was rather ability lag free in garrison – typically in that kinda fight there is always lag. Was impressed tonight.

Cheers for the fights BB

Regards TUP

It’s normal to go to sleep dude… we start resets now at 2.00 AM spanish time zone (gmt+1). Actually i was kinda surprised to see so many ppl at reset since it’s unusual to keep playing so late.

Corran.4957:

Was a bit of a dull reset on AG boarderland… DsD wouldnt push when they outnumber 2:1 … they had to wait for Nuke and/or CS plus others to make it 4:1 before they would engage. Was tough to get any real fights going with play like that.

Eventually you got into our garrison, then you logged off. Guess losing to 1/4 of your numbers without any seige up is humiliating but it no reason to up and quit on mass! DsD, CS, Nuke … none remained. Was hoping for a bit more fun, given that you had broken just about everything you could in there

Someone here is not playing gw, but “parchis”. Eat 1 and count 20.

krippler.9826:

I completely agree that dead should be dead with a respawn required. If ANet wants to alleviate zerging, why do they let the winning zerg completely heal themselves before they move on?

But something else that really bugs me is that in the middle of battle, you can revive a defeated player little by little, and the opposing players can do nothing about it. If I see a half-revived player laying there, why can’t I smack the —-- out of them and put them back down?

Nothing more to say. The more we are the more i revive from death… Hey! Let’s zerg, and even if i don’t rally, someone of the 60 guys behind me will ress me in a sec!

If someone rallys, you stand up. If someone resses you, you stand up. Why the kitten kill someone then if they could revive him? No point on killing little by little, only wipes are worth it. And with a little group vs a zerg, that’s not an option.

Jacky Nipper.3846:

Great fight there, thx to TUP who were preparing this for AG guilds.
And greetings to all Gandara guilds we fought last night at the mill.

BB guilds need to grow some balls!!!

We’ve got balls of steel dude (I’m talking about Nuke), but we can’t arrange GvGs when we don’t have a complete roster for that! Maybe next week we could arrange one, i’ll let you know when we’re ready to challenge someone again!

Until then see you in the battlefield!

Vena.8436:

Sube Dai.8496:

I was also hoping that the scoring would be tweaked. There should be instant points awarded for objectives to make it feel like your efforts mean something. It would also give smaller worlds a chance to bridge the points gap against superior numbers by having roamers earn points even if they can’t take towers.

Yak’s and sentries award points on kill/capture and are specifically made for small groups to kill.

Negative. Yaks, the more ppl are killing it, the more points they give you, up to a limit which i don’t know which it is.

So that’s not encouraging small groups to kill yaks. It’s an objetive that can be taken by small groups, but game mechanics don’t encourage it.

Week pretty much ended, and if nothing really wierd happens, i see another week of the same mutchup!!!

Lololol someone’s not gonna love this post xD

Corran.4957:

loseros.5912:

3 way? Sorry but noone believes it. When you see /dance and / sleep and someone in the forums said you helped…

It was a 3 way… thing is each of your sides had at least triple our number. We were hoping to take advantage of you fighting each other but in the end we got bored watching you lot just looking at each other and neither side willing to make a move.

As such, we weighed up our options and in boredom decided to push into the lord room and clear the seige and cause some mayhem. It worked and we got some kills and drops. And ended the standoff… we didnt care how it ended, just that it did

The mayhem only benefits gandara since you don’t try to take the keep and you know it. We were forced to attack you. That’s a 2 vs 1 not a 1 v 1 v 1. And i don’t care that you did that. Just recognice that your action was beneficial for gandara and your intentions weren’t taking the keep.

tygorn.7193:

IDarko.4709:

Gandara is a community. [XxX] is part of our community so if people start talking BS about them or keep tauning them, you also mess with the other Gandara guilds. I understand that the respect has to come from both sides so i would like to ask both parties to calm down.

This, but I hope you understand that this also works on our side when you people are talking bollocks about kiss, fury, rddt and all our other guilds.

now on another topic.. I had a blast with the three-way battle for bay on gandara bl yesterday. gandara trying to get in and bb defending. My game crashed when we sneaked a portal inside the inner. And we didn’t get it, but I want more of this.

3 way? Sorry but noone believes it. When you see /dance and / sleep and someone in the forums said you helped…

Maltra.7890:

loseros.5912:

Nemesys.7251:

loseros.5912:

In open field? Impossible. I don’t know what pugs you fight, but the ones i fight against hit hard. Just because they can revive each other and have larger numbers, you can’t fight them and wipe them.

i show u in the video of tomorow.

Impaciently waiting to see it and learn from it ^^ (i will count them too :P)

Count them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flJ_ZAs8kzU

These aren’t the pugs i used to fight agains. Those i fight charge at me and don’t stack to ress people In fact, they charge me, cause they’re moar than me.

Nemesys.7251:

loseros.5912:

In open field? Impossible. I don’t know what pugs you fight, but the ones i fight against hit hard. Just because they can revive each other and have larger numbers, you can’t fight them and wipe them.

i show u in the video of tomorow.

Impaciently waiting to see it and learn from it ^^ (i will count them too :P)

Nemesys.7251:

Wamgor.9347:

XxX

we are still playing all the evening,but i dont come on a map where kiss unity fury and rddt play togheter we prefer go other map and continue play with our guild style,and let all of them play as they want,instead of see always a regroup if we kill 1 of that guild or a regroup if they know we are in the same map,they play ALWAYS like that we not.
We never blob,can happen when there are only 2 3 on but with our 15 member we play ALWAYS as guild and all the video show that.
And there are something make me laugh when i read many try do GvG,guild need to have a playstyle,guild need to play ALWAYS like that and not only during a stupid event and do kitten all the rest of the week.
Too many forumers less gamers and we need more gamers on map.

loseros.5912:

Nowadays it’s IMPOSSIBLE to fight agains a blob of 60 guys with just 30. Not in open field and whatch out in choke points… they could overrun you just because of numbers

u are sure of that?we do that always with 15/20. sometimes they are 40 sometime 50
but nothing is impossible.if they are Pug if they are blob of 2 guild can be impossible.

In open field? Impossible. I don’t know what pugs you fight, but the ones i fight against hit hard. Just because they can revive each other and have larger numbers, you can’t fight them and wipe them.

I could tell you the excuses: repairing costs, that i have to walk again there 2 mins to die in 2 secs; or in the other side: hey free exp! Free karma! Free gold! Free interest points and map complete! Etc.

And today the fashion is: free wxp!

But what do you do when you’re 15-30 against 50 guys… that’s also boring. I kittening hate it when i only die because i have 4828364 AoEs in my head before i can even melee someone :S

That without counting the over 9000 conditions i stack in the way, even if i clean them once or twice.

When you’re the same numbers it’s the same as 20 vs 20 but more chaos.

I don’t like to outnumber the enemy, but also the contrary, that the enemy outnumbers me.

That’s why we need GvGs and not WvW or sPvP

Whenever someone decides to “barbara straisand” it’s done. Remove the AoE cap and we’ll see who blobs or not… if one can do as much dps as the enemy… if 1 can hit 60 and 60 1 they have the same dps right?

60 guys hitting 30 100 each = 30 guys hitting 60 100 each
Same dps with less hp. Seems legit for me. Skills would be a factor to take into account into the formula.
BUt now a days it’s: 60 guys can hit 5 each 100 dmg and 30 guys 5 each 100 dps. Looks like numbers win dps.

Dude, the problem is maps beeing too smal so blobs benefit from it. If maps where different and you could actually siege faster than what it takes to the enemy to come to defend, we could talk about what it shouldn’t be done.

Nowadays it’s IMPOSSIBLE to fight agains a blob of 60 guys with just 30. Not in open field and whatch out in choke points… they could overrun you just because of numbers

The kittening problem is the amount of dps per group. If a group of 30 could do as much dps as a group of 60 things would change. But nowadays a blob of 60 has more dps, and more hp, double exactly. And that without counting downed state…

It’s the game mechanics which by firce makes people blob and counterblob. Not their gamwplay style or preference.

I hate blobs but i must admit they’re a challenge to fight against. Just counterblob them having minimal casualties and gg, well played, go try again

The challenge is nit killing them all but survive with 0 casualties Moar eople, moar supplys, moar sieges… i think you’re complaining that you can’t kill em without blobbing… As far as i know, we’re only blobbing to counterblob. Else we atack muktiple targets at once.

Even if you’re too good 2 ppl make more dmg than 1 and 50 people more than 25.
It’s a pitty, but if yu do it with guilds it’s different. There’s a part of flanking, supporting, counterattacking, etc which it may not be seen, but it does exist.

Meanwhile in Baruch… all bl outnunbered

Guess what! PvE event incoming!!!!

Last week 1h queue all bl. This one outnumbered in all bl

Dranul.2094:

YOLO is simply a community driven WXP train. Not very efficient 50+ to take camps. Surprised you didn’t zone hope soggyfrog

Its not new, its so 2012.

BB and Gand wouldn’t move anywhere on GDBL tonight without the zombie train following. Sporadic good fights to be had, getting stuck in the middle of both and giving both sides hell. Nuke man, twice atleast tonight you wouldnt engage us with even numbers, first in the NW you waited for the other spanish horde to “sneak” behind us – not very effectively I might add Hate to see bigger numbers or even similiar numbers just turn tail and run. Then again between Bay and Garrison with the BB blob and GD blob going at it, still you wouldn’t come solo, sadpanda. I hope you don’t relegate yourself to the level of the blobbers, your better than that.

Here’s to the rest of the week….

If you’ve seen us recently we aren’t in full strengh. Not the usual raid leaders leading or the usual people fighting. Some new guys to wvw, people in holidays, plus unusual raid leaders… i think if not today, tomorrow at least, we’ll be nearly in full strenght.

Whut? Another nightcpping guild? We’re screwed then.

Epic blobs in gandara bl. Aurora was missing there… though there was a guild from gabdara trying not to blob stepping aside and charging after we engaged… can’t remember de name… something like dius? we finally decided to join raids Nuke and CS to counter those megablobs, since running 10-15 ppl each one was ridicoulous to fight you.

In the end all the pugs ended joinin us so we had to separate going to waypoints and such lame things, lol.

Lots of badges and vendors to sell full inventories

I do hate blobs only when i can’t kill them or gain time for another one to countercap anotother thing meanwhile.

Else i prefer the enemy to blob. More lootbags and more PvDoor

Screenshot or it didn’t happen! :P

Btw TUP guys, where did you play the reset at? I think Nuke chose gandara. (As allways I’m never in a kittening rest so i have no clue)

…When you start asking: hey! Where did you buy that skin? That one there isnt’t in WvW!

Or when you realise that there are PvE world events and you have no clue what are them about. You only regret not having gone after your friendsand all of thrm tell you: hey i looted a pre-legendary!

Dude, you can’t even place it in a hill and shoot straight, you shoot horizontally (therefore a 100% useless skill because it shoots directly to the ground at 0 meters) and that means you can’t place it in terrain with obstacles. Only in human-made paths and in the floor, not in walls, since the shots are horizontal.
Or am i incorrect?

Btw the new skill of the ballista sucks. Short range, and you don’t really aim… that skill should be at least to aim in a cone. Not target based (which is ridiculous since you need a straight horizontal line of sight to hit anything, even if you target someone in range of the skill)

Nice GvG vs Dsun and SPGR. Despite the boring matchup, since we outnumber you in your offpeak hours, it’s been funny to change a bit and do some GvG.

It’s a pitty that our raid time isn’t the same as Dsun’s. I really wanted to fight them in a WvW situation. We suck at GvG atm xD.

Anyways, today has been zerging day it seems… i don’t want to generalize (does this word exist in english?), but I think that randoms tend to blob and therefore is nearly impossible to engage outnumbered unless you have a guild and you’re like 1:1,5-2 since now without culling ppl rely on numbers, and the AoE cap doesn’t really benefit the outnumbered… you must have a minimun amount of players in a raid (between 20-30 and i would say more likely 30) to fight such blobs, since non-culling has stopped to be a surprise factor or ignorance factor in terms that you actually see the enemies movements.

Yeah, imagin 30 supply each… a zerg of 30 it’s a mobile fortress warehouse… 900 supplys lololol

Yeah it’s kinda confusing. You don’t know if each level adds more to the previous lvls or not.

Because 1+2+3+4+5 supply extra are 15 extra, adding to this the extra 15 you can carry yourself eith the camp upgraded it’s like: hey! We are 10 guys and can build 5 arrow carts and 4 rams! Just us!
Or no wait! We’re 10 and can build 3 siege ninja golems!

Ye, we’ve been in T2 before and soke guilds left us so we went down to T4 and now we’re in T5

(Sing the song) I got a feeling! That tonight’s gonna be a good night! That tonight’s gonna be a good good night!

1590 rating 3x servers fighting for T4 and we all know MoS isn’t 100% accurate… what will happen tonight?

Tonight’s the night!

Put a + 1 if you agree with this!

Matt Witter.6982:

We will have much more info on World Ranks very soon! In the mean time:

1. Everyone that helped with the kill will get full credit for the kill.
2. NPC’s are not worth World Experience
3. I can’t give all the goods away just yet!
4. Yes.

Looks like soon is goong to be the patch day, not before…

Ye, DsD came back to Baruch, but they play half of the time in our prime time, so no much of a diference. RNV was more offpeak late night.

Lol a post of mine has been removed :s looks like it was offensive to call someone true german and bunker builder :S

I haven’t logged in yet today. Still that keep in bb bl is from rs?

Just trying to understand your big huge population increase. Ppl don’t believe it’s only PvE pop playing WvW and think guilds have moved to RS.

I have a question for riverside. Rumors say that a guild [GOYA] migrated from elona to riverside. Is this true?

Is there any posbility to see the patch notes before the patch is released?

As far as i’ve been told, this patch should have been released in February, but due to tests it’s been delayed to March. Also, it’s suposed to be a huge patch for WvW, which should include a lot of changes.

Knowing them in detail before the release date could be a good option to prepare ourselves for the upcoming new startegies. Or is the expectation higher than what the patch actually brings and there will be no such a big change more than what we already know about the culling issue and the progression system (which by the way is unkown what it will bring in details)?

Btw what hapenned yesterday? AG borderland was a kittening desert… in like 30 mins we rushed all the BL… both servers with the outnumbered debuff even if hills was a kittening bunker, there was no people to defend it… we had also just 80 points at 22.00 gmt+1. All was PvDoor :S

Was any football match or something?

I missed the good fights i expected…

Nice fights today against TUP and rddt (or something like that) at BB bl. A pitty we weren’t even in numbers but we had lots of pugs behind, although you were a lot too :o

Nevertheless it’s been funny fights in open field. Thanks for coming to fight us, no matter the result or the odds. Keep it up guys! Never give up!

A good commander never plays PvE. You dont fill the first requirement

Only a good WvW commander… knows that all npcs drop badges!

Just one question: does riverside recieved migrations or any kind of boost in your wvw pop? In BBs point of view you look like you’re more ppl this week. In my opinion you’re the same ones xD

Could you clarify this feeling please?

It’s true that the last hour we did a NAP with AG but nothing more than just for fun and some points that had no impact into the rating. Just for the beloved victory of the matchup (though if we loose rating that’s a lost matchup for me) and it was AG the one proposing it xD.

Mine is the biggest and largest. For sure.
And i’m not talking about gw

@the REQ guy complaining about zergs

I suggest you to challenge anyone to play a GvG and there you can see that actually skill is a handicap.

So when fighting in a large group, it’s important the individual skill. When you face zergs, not so much.

So it’s not about how many you are, but who and how many the enemy is.

I’m pretty sure also and if in any hipothetical (does this word exist in english?) situation would have been an arregement it would be unkown for BB guilds.

What i think is:
if the patch was originally scheaduled for february and we’re in march, it was supposed to be known for february, what the patch was going to consist of in march, right?

Still no news is bad news for me. 1 month later and no information of what you were working on to finish it in february sounds weird for me.

It’s allways a pleasure to fight against guilds. Zergs of randoms are not really a challenge unless you’re outnumbered 1:2, where things get even :p

Nevertheless, it’s been funny the siege we made in bay when we conquered. The rest of the night i played (logged off after the golem rush fail) was kinda boring. Hills was a kittening bunker and our allies couldn’t recapture bay (and also they couldn’t defend it when we left to prepare the golem rush)

I logged off when we were going to support the attack to bay so no idea of what happened afterwards.

Sequoia Mint.4803:

loseros.5912:

@Tom
We [Nuke] were not so many dude… We’ve been a lot more in the past.
I guess UNTY had same numbers as we had, so please… don’t say stupid things xD

I most say with 100% certainty that nuke out numbered us 100% of the time. The battles were so awesome though!

I have nothing but respect for Nuke! You guys made WvW so much fun. Winning or losing it was quite a day! Salute Nuke!

Don’t think so… we were like 30-35 not more. A squad of 15 and another of around 20.