Guild Wars 2

Vol.7601:

That’s a pretty kittenumption in regards to how the loot table works…

This is the funniest auto-censor I’ve seen yet.

Ohoni.6057:

Not the same amount, <snip>.

The difference is thousands of times because the executives are valuable as individuals while the workers are only valuable as a mass of labor hours. Nothing they add to the business is important enough on an individual level to warrant them being paid any more than they are currently. That is why those jobs are usually worked by high school kids while they live with their parents and save up for college/car/spending cash and NOT by people who are trying to sustain themselves… they aren’t providing a very useful or important function and are paid accordingly.

That’s a very flawed argument. <snip>

It’s actually a flawless argument, your opinion is just divergent from it. Flippers increase the amount all players can sell their items for RIGHT NOW and decrease the amount it costs for all players to buy and item RIGHT NOW. That is what they add, and that is why they are getting paid.

Yes, but only because they don’t understand <snip>

Not true. There is no way to get a better price without a difference in time.
Further, you are supporting your position by arguing that the majority of players are either too incompetent, illiterate, or lazy to read and comprehend the very basic information that is presented when they list their items or buy from the Trading Post. If your supporting argument is true, then nothing we are going to be able to do will “fix” the issue because the players will still be too incompetent, illiterate, and/or lazy to participate at an effective level.

I’ll also repeat, flippers increase the price that you can sell something for and decrease the price you can buy something for. The only people they hurt are OTHER FLIPPERS. Everyone else benefits from their actions.

What convenience do they add? <snip>

Now you are back to calling the playerbase incompetent, illiterate, and/or lazy. If your arguments are true, then they can’t be helped anyway so your argument becomes moot. The flippers, once again, provide better prices to sellers and better prices to buyers, all while eliminating the need to wait for your transactions. That’s pretty much the best definition of convenience possible.

And keep in mind, if flippers were removed, <snip>

Flippers drive the deflation of the economy by engaging in many, many, many transactions and moving the same items multiple times (making them be taxed repeatedly). Without them, the volume of trades would significantly be reduced, the prices you get from selling your items would be significantly lower, and the prices you pay to buy would be significantly higher.

Yes, you can still buy and sell instantly, but without the rapid pace of price equilibrium that flippers provide, it could take MONTHS for the prices to become reasonable so buying instantly would become the worst possible decision you could make.

I get that attitude, and don’t at all begrudge it, <snip>

You don’t begrudge it, but you want it deleted from the game because you don’t understand it? Sounds legit…

Flippers do not hurt the economy, they do more to help it than most players. They stabilize prices, offer instant transactions at the best possible prices, and delete currency from the game and thus fight inflation. I dare you to offer an example of anyone who does more to aid the economy than the flipper.

could, but I don’t want to. <snip>

The little green man behind the curtain of your argument rises his head. You want what they have without doing what they do.

I get that. All people are jealous. In fact, jealousy is what drives economies.

However, jealous is not a valid reason to limit the freedoms of others, especially when those freedoms do not in any way prevent you from doing what you want.

Stop comparing your wealth to that of the flippers and you’ll find two things:
1. Their wealth has NO IMPACT on you at all.
2. You’ll enjoy your gaming time more.

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