Guild Wars 2

bluri.2653:

You guys are cracking me up. Anyway I’ll happily bet anyone here 500g we will win with daredevil and chrono when expac monthly comes out, any takers?

not like winning a monthly means anything anyway

community has srs devolved to a point where people are taking DE seriously? DE shadowarts?

zan score too low

leeto score (afk) should be higher than present

solid list otherwise.

To make it clear, frostballs current idea of mirage is the following

Krait runes for jaunt
ineptitude+blind on shatter
signet of midnight
axe

Jaunt on target, spam every single shatter, get the elite proc and get a massive condi spike. Playing this as a silly thief +1er

Cool in theory. In practice 1 well of eternity, 1 astral form, 1 leadership rune proc and all of your cds and burst is gone. Less effective than a thief by x100. Garbage in a teamfight. Inferior 1v1 to chrono, can’t hold a fight for its life, garbage 2v2, etc

Frostball has literally for years been the kid who always tries to refuse what everyone else does and do ‘’his own thing’’ and insist that it’s better. This is the person who plays the inspiration build with carrion and played bunker mesmer with the damage well.

Fantastic pvper, one of the best mesmers in the game by far but also someone who has historically ALWAYS been a contrarian who wants to be cool and stand out by never agreeing with what’s actually true.

Also, your build is bad lmao

Cyninja.2954:

nothelseth.4621:

‘’Helseth, arguably a very good spvp player, barely managed to put a dent into a core thief.
’’

this made me laugh.

I had close but losing duels vs sindreners daredevil.

That’s not a random core thief.

Randoms, aka people like you, I stomped while qing, winning 2v1s etc.

Anyhow that’s besides the point.

Having crafted around I basically got this final verdict:

Mirage is dependant on two things to be useful. 1. clones and 2. Mirror shards.

Mirror shards are just bad and need buffs/reworks to be useful and clones will never be better than phantasms for pvp usage because clones die too easily. The concept of giving your clones survivability through evading for them is a cool idea but sadly not practical.

Chronomancer is still top tier and will be used in pvp so mesmer is gucci

Glad you took my comment personal even if it was not intended as an insuilt. I was refering to the build being core thief, obviously the player had a lot of skill, or at least I assumed he did.

I was refering to the fact that a core thief build, not even daredevil, was giving our new likely damage elite spec a hard time.

…??..

Re-read the comment

It was sinds DAREDEVIL

?

‘’Helseth, arguably a very good spvp player, barely managed to put a dent into a core thief.
’’

this made me laugh. Are the forums really this disconnected from how the competitive players are like?
I had close but losing duels vs sindreners daredevil.

That’s not a random core thief.

Randoms, aka people like you, I stomped while qing, winning 2v1s etc.

Anyhow that’s besides the point.

Having crafted around I basically got this final verdict:

Mirage is dependant on two things to be useful. 1. clones and 2. Mirror shards.

Mirror shards are just bad and need buffs/reworks to be useful and clones will never be better than phantasms for pvp usage because clones die too easily. The concept of giving your clones survivability through evading for them is a cool idea but sadly not practical.

Chronomancer is still top tier and will be used in pvp so mesmer is gucci

The ambush skill for gs is a joke.

The unique heal from mirage is just flat out worse than ether feast. Not even worth to be brought up in same conversation as well of eternity

Jaunt is frankly just frusterating because of its ridicilous range. Has limited use. Kinda value in power (infinitely less worth than grav well/moa tho)

Condi, power, tank; in all 3 of these archetypes you’re inferior to chrono in every signle way

the dodge mechanic is cool

https://youtu.be/6Nqa23Rz9jg?t=748

ill just leave this here

Shaogin.2679:

Maybe since the pro league is no longer a thing they just don’t care about toning down the animations anymore?

So their only reason for making the game watchable, both for people on twitch and more importantly the people playing the 100% animation based combat is esports?

We all remember the ridicilous start of hot where the animations were such a mess that it was impossible what happened right?

I legit remember playing blindly during the monthly I introduced the bunker mes because the animations made everything on the point a disco where no matter what I did to the camera it was legit IMPOSSIBLE to make out what happened. I legit spammed cds and dodges hoping for the best.

So arenanet had to take about 8 months to patch the game into a state where the game was perfectly playable again. Sure, sometimes it gets a little cluttery but it could definitely have been much worse.

So did arenanet learn their lesson?

https://youtu.be/nflQFIFnpVo?t=103

What the actual hell is this

Imagine if this class is powerful enough to have 2 of them on each team.

If you’re against the choice talk to jebro about having your money back, dont watch the tourn and dont support it

if you are for the choice donate money to the tourn, watch the tourn and make sure everyone else does

money talks

Azukas.1426:

CrashTheGrey.1492:

Azukas.1426:

I don’t agree. You are enacting punishment on behalf of Anet. Let them fail on their own.

Also what happened did not happen during your tournament and you have no business punishing ppl.

They have all the business in the world upholding integrity in a tournament who willingly donates money to players (funded by a community).

If you are a prominent, visible part of a community and you take the time to cheat and screw said community with petty actions, why would they keep you around? What example does that set and what does it say about the already struggling competitive scene?

No one cheated who played in the tournament. The integrity of the game was NEVER compromised. The only thing done wrong was some idiots put a price tag on an achievement title. Thats it.

The integrity of UGO is in jeopardy not from the alleged players who took the money, but the people who kittened and moaned to Jebro to d/q ppl so they could win money. See these players aren’t good enough to win it on their own, and have resorted to getting ppl to be d/q’d. Personally they are lower than the alleged team who paid ppl to win the AT.

You know why? Because they were man enough to admit they can’t do, and forked over cash. They didn’t report ppl to anet repeatedly to have them banned so they could win.

Thank you

all this.

facts

Banning the only halfway decent players because you get bullied into doing it by opportunistic people faking outrage in order to further kill off their scene because all they care about is their own ego.

What are you basing these bans on? TOS being broken? In that case I advice you ban half of NA, including the people that probably endlessly whined to you about doing this.

IMO it’s none of anyones business other than anet of what people does w their ingame tourn winnings. The only way I could find a ban justified from your end is if someone actually changed the outcome of a match by cheating. Nothing like that happened.

But yeah, I’m sure jeff convincing you of banning the team that always beats him is all done in the ‘’fairness of competition’’ and not you getting bullied by whispers and not having the nuts to take a stance.

Ben Phongluangtham.1065:

Tournament rewards will receive a revision soon™.

The current rewards of GW2 (and any minor tweaks you do to it) will without doubt have the competitive community of GW2 continue to die off and stagnate. If the rewards remain the same then there is absolutely zero chance of growth as it is right now until the next chance to fix everything (the expansion). This is something I could put a thousand dollars on without being worried about my money.

I mentioned this out beforehand in a post when you answered questions about the PVP changes but I’ll briefly bring up the issues again:

Looking at the monthly (because I believe that the laughable daily rewards overshadow a larger issue);

Outside of the statues there is absolutely no reason for a team that won the monthly to feel the need to do so again. The armor set is a duplicate of something that every single person that will ever win a monthly has a recolor of.

There is also nothing (again, outlier is statue) that a random player will identify as ‘’this guy just cleared the hardest content in the game’‘. I’ve had the glorious hero armor set since 2014 and people stopped paying attention to it right after arenanet rewarded a reskin as a reward track. You think a random pveer will see ‘’flavor of the month’’ and think ‘’jesus how did he get that title!?’’

When I comment on the game nowadays I don’t do it anymore as a competitive player. I do it as a streamer who wants people to get excited about my content. I predicted that all of the hype for ATS would dissapear in the first 2 weeks and I was completely right: the viewership has dipped back to what it was before the patch.

I’ve done a grand total of 3 ATS and I have no reason to continue playing them since I’ve already qualified for the monthly. My one and only incentive for playing the monthly is to be the first person in the champions rest and to capitalize on the hype of the first monthly ever.

After that it’s only going downhill.

Imagine if the legendary backpack was not given out as a time gated reward since the start and it would only have been given out to somone who took first place in 3 monthlies in a row.

That’s how a reward with proper prestige would look like.

Add all the gold you like but the feeling of importance is what drives competitive people to become good in the first place. It’s probably too late for that to be fixed now but maybe when the expansion kicks around we’ll have another rework and this time it’ll be done right.

So let me get this straight.

Automated tournaments which are literally pure 5on5 where you have plenty of time to set up a comp with your pug, sort out communications and then also time to prepare for enemy comp when match starts are all unfair.

What is fair is you getting 5 people in the same party and voice coms to face one duoq and 3 soloquers.

The reason this is fair is because you cant win an AT. If you get to make a premade and face soloqers you can win. Which is fair.

????????

Searven.4820:

Its good that the daily tourneys dont reward much. If they did the real good teams would just steamroll through them and it would be hard for you average team to ever get a good placement.

’’it’s good that the rewards are so bad that good teams wont even bother to play them so I can win the crappy rewards that are left’’

….????

JTGuevara.9018:

lmao—I’m not surprised

Folks, the system is rigged and exploitable. Deep down, I think you all know it. Just admit it. Some in these forums, these so-called “pros” who think they’re good won’t dare to admit it.

You live and die by placement matches. Period. Your skill rating just stabilizes overtime as it did mine. The amount of rating I gained and lost when I started was in the late 20s-30s, now it’s in the teens. HOW THE F—- do you even expect people to advance? Unless you duo, bribe, cheat or got good placement there’s not a snowball’s chance you’re getting up the tiers. No matter how good you are.

I gave it a shot for a few days just to see how ranked was but…nothing has changed. As usual.

Yup, going back to unranked.

Ever heard of kittykittymewmeow?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/kittykittymeowmew-elo-hell-DEFEATED/first

Ben Phongluangtham.1065:

zealex.9410:

Question to ben: Dont you think tht 500gold is kinda too little on a monthly basis considering winning the weekly esl gave 2k gems?

I think what we’re offering isn’t bad. We’re at about 600g in liquid rewards, which can be turned into gems. In Ascended armor, we’re around 220g in materials if you choose the absolute cheapest pieces of gear. So usually worth more than that. Not to mention the other rewards that are a bit harder to put a price on.

That being said, we will be keeping an eye on things and can make adjustments if we feel it’s necessary.

The question puts a solid perspective on it which I don’t think was properly addressed.

Previous events: 2288g every month (2000 gems= 572g/week)

Current events: 600g every month – 150g/week

That doesn’t even bring up the fact that those events were not the most prestigious. They were the casual events run on the side while serious teams played go4s for cash prizes.

The armor set is IMO not too difficult to put a value for. Every single person who is ever going to win a monthly already has the full ascended armor+skin in the ardent hero set. On top of that, many of the people who will win the monthly already have the glorious set since it’s been thrown in as a prize for leaderboard placings and previous tournaments.

The ardent hero and glorious hero are on the exact same tier in terms of how the skin looks. It’s not like the new wvw armor.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/4/40/Ardent_Glorious_armor_%28light%29_human_female_front.jpg

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/3/35/Glorious_Hero%27s_armor_%28light%29_human_female_front.jpg

Winning this monthly is the single most difficult achievement in this game. The rewards don’t even come close to compensation for it in my opinion.

I also don’t think there is any incentive at all to winning more than one tournament outside of the statues. It would be much better with a ‘’reward track’’ dependant on multiple tournament placings in order to get an exclusive, new, set which will actually have prestige attached to it.

Thank you for responding to my questions.

Sup ben. Since you’re making yourself available to answer questions (very much appreciated) I’d like to shoot some your way.

1) Will there be opportunities for shoutcasters to stream the weekly/monthly? As in, will you bring back the authorized shoutcaster program?

2) Can you share an estimation of the gold earned for a tournament win? Outside of those statues, will there be any incentive at all for a team to win more than one monthly tournament since they’ll be rewarded with the full set once they win the first one?

3) how will qualifyng points work cross region wise? Is there anything to stop an european team going to NA in order to farm QPs in a less competitive enviroment?

Thanks in advance,
Sincerely
Kittykittymeowmew
Greatest mesmer ever

mesmer is really kitten underpowered what u on about we need huge buffs??

I think that henrys posts perfectly prove how people react when they hear anything about their class being too strong.

Every time, no matter how ridiculous or actually genuinely true, his statement is people will instantly rush in to defend the class as if somehow this post would lead to the class being nerfed.

I think this thread would have been much better if you brought up the much needed discussion of steal having a 2.5-3s cast time. Right now it’s absolutely absurd to have a skill that will lead to guaranteed kills and won 1v1s having no animation or window for reaction. Even worse is when it’s cast in stealth. In fact, even if you do add a fair cast time like 3s they’ll still be able to cast it in stealth which is a problem.

What do you think about this?

mysterion.1276:

If you are against a pro league player which your confident in winning/holding 1v1 is it better to isolate them from the team to prevent carry or just try to win teamfights?

isolating the best players and either stalemating them or beating them is definitely the best way to play. I’ve had games where I’ve faced players that pretty much afking outside my point, forcing me to stay there but refusing to fight me so that I can’t kill them and move on. This is an excellent tactic if I’m hardcarrying the game and if my team loses all fights without me. I’ve lost games to that dumb tactic (feels really dumb since what hes doing should qualify as a misplay)

Most important part imo for mes 1v1 is shield 4. Dodge the enemy shield 4 at any cost and try to land your own. It’ll give you the clone advantage you need to outdamage them

jenzie.4083:

Halloj!

Thanks for helping out!

What profession would be best to duoque with? (assuming hypothetically I have friends)

thief in higher levels as a mesmer. Otherwise you want something that can 1v1 a sidenode

@ross Power shatter is the best setup for mesmer, assuming this was a real question this time lmao

Regarding build for power mes there are basically three ways to do it. No matter how you go you want to pick up domination and chrono.

Domi; Stun on rupt, boonrip on shatter, mental anguish
Chrono; superspeed clones, extra clone from 2x clones, chronophantasma

Then you got three options. You can go;
Chaos, equip a torch, maybe slap on a decoy. This is PU shatter. Definitely the safest vs thieves but it has the worst damage of power builds on top of not being able to stand on point at all. The plus side is you can make some easy +1s and decaps using stealth.

Question is tho, why not just play thief

Inspiration
Same traits as for condi mes in this line. This used to be a pretty strong build which you could play everywhere but the very top and produce similiar results to condi mes. However, with the nerf to healing power scaling you pretty much have to slap on a menders amulet now and make your damage pathethic

I’d just play condi at this point

Illusion
This is the build I pick up when I play shatter nowadays. Only trait difference from condi is that you pick up shattered strength over torment. This is the most damage you’ll be getting out of a power build with low cds and a lot of mightstacks adding up fast. My next youtube video will feature me playing this build in legend and it has some pretty lulsy oneshots. The obvious problem is that you have the sustain of a crab fighting dinosaurs. But hey, just dodge

@Ithilwen Only thing I can think of that is different than condi mes are:
1. stun with diversion before mindwrack. Try to make sure your clones arent too close to eachother and the target because in that case the stun on daze will be overwritten by other dazes. One idea is have all your clones at medium range, blink in and stun then followup with mindrack before your clones reach him.

2. Let your phantasms always attack before shattering. Usually in condi mes missing out on a phantasm attack isnt important at all but on power mes its a huge part of your damage. For instance, you spawn zerker, zerker attacks, shatter zerker, zerker attacks again. This alone will do crazy dmg on a golem in mist and it doesnt even include you autoattackinga nd mirrorblading.-

not taking money from the tourny pot if that’s what you’re asking lmao

Ross Biddle.2367:

I have a question!

What build are you going to use when For Honor comes out in three weeks?

also

On my killshot mesmer, I run The Predator for my rifle skin. Do you think that extra light and sound makes for a more intimidating presence in the mind of the pressured target, or just makes the enemy team more likely to take notice and counter pressure me?

playing ubisoft games elegiggle

your main problem when it comes to fashion wars is that you play asura. Playing asura dooms you to the lowest possible score from anyone who takes fashion in gw2 seriously. There is no point to talk about the rifle when this glaring issue is blocking your progression

@cynz

an ingame mail to oni.5429 will do

500g waiting

Turns out that I’m pretty good at the class.

Power, condi, high level or low level; if you got something you want to know about how to mesmer in pvp I probably know the answer.

Cus I’m kittykittymeowmew.

I’ll answer any questions you guys might have here.

Supreme.3164:

It’s easy to say eli hell doesn’t exist…maybe I should record my matches and show people my matches..

Great idea!

I’ll give the same idea to you that I’ve given to plenty of other people: record your gameplay. I want a consistent view of how you play so 3 consecutive matches seem like a good idea. If it turns out that your gameplay seems better than all of your teammates and all of your opponents and that you’re only kept down by ‘’the people in your matches’’ then I’ll give you 500g.

Considering cynz responded to my post in an edit which completely sidestepped the challange I’d just like to put it out there that this claim that the only way the all of the best players maintain high winratios is through qing at ridicilous hours is now debunked. This was already obviously false since you can see these people consistently on my stream when I q and I only do it on prime. Let’s try to not spread dishonesty on this level again.

The reason I asked for videos was (to me) pretty obvious. First of all; you’d get a chance to have someone of my caliber give you improvement tips. Something I used to charge money to do in the past.

Second, we’d pretty easily be able to see if your gameplay looks superior to everyone else in your division which is what you’re suggesting. You’re saying that the only reason you lose is because every single time you play ‘’the system’’ gives you teammates that are all worse than your opponents (although you’re stil better than them, just not enough)

If you could show this to me in multiple examples (iirc, 3 consecutive games) then I’d send you 500g on top of any advice on the gameplay you could get. IMO it’s a pretty good deal. All you need to do is spend around an hour playing these games which you intend to do anyway in the next season. 500g, win or lose in game; it should be a win to you if your statement is true.

Cynz.9437:

nothelseth.4621:

Cynz.9437:

The real question is, did Helseth also queue at 5-10 am like the rest of the top 10 (you know who i am talking about, i have seen you and have screemshots, don’t deny it) so he could farm players divisions (silver/gold) below him and thus never lose matches?

Oh that’s the ‘’real question’’ huh?

I didn’t do that a single time. My entire path was done on stream and primarily during primetime. My usual stream schedule is 16-22. This is easily verified by just looking at the dates/times of my past broadcasts.

I’d love to see screenshots of me qing at 5-10 am considering that I have a job lmao.

Like, a single one.

I can put a 500g reward on it.

Did you even read what i wrote?

I did.

I adressed your comment that suggested I could have been doing it at silly times. After that I also offered up to you and absolutely anyone if they could spot a single time where I’ve been qing at 4 am .

If you took the tone of the comment as something else it’s probably because it’s tiresome when people on the forum keep posting exaggerated claims as if they’re facts and then give no acknowledgement when called out on it. I’ve lurked for a minute and constantly seen it repeated. It would be nice to have this stop happening all the time.

Although let’s go ahead and prove me wrong;

‘’like the rest of the top 10 (you know who i am talking about, i have seen you and have screemshots, don’t deny it)’’

This suggests that the majority of the top10 q at 5-10 am which is the only reason they have the winratio that they have.

I’ll call you out on it. Give me 6 screenshots (majority) of the EU top 10 qing at that time.

500g.

Cynz.9437:

The real question is, did Helseth also queue at 5-10 am like the rest of the top 10 (you know who i am talking about, i have seen you and have screemshots, don’t deny it) so he could farm players divisions (silver/gold) below him and thus never lose matches?

Oh that’s the ‘’real question’’ huh?

I didn’t do that a single time. My entire path was done on stream and primarily during primetime. My usual stream schedule is 16-22. This is easily verified by just looking at the dates/times of my past broadcasts.

I’d love to see screenshots of me qing at 5-10 am considering that I have a job lmao.

Like, a single one.

I can put a 500g reward on it.

Care to show us a recording of your gameplay?

If shadowplay isnt available for you then use the local record feature of OBS, takes very little stress on your fps – you dont need top notch quality.

Three matches would be great.

From my perspective you completely underplay the ‘’yeah I make mistakes and I know them’’
No, you’re silver. If you’re silver then you make far more mistakes than you realize. Hell, even at my level I constantly make mistakes that I don’t understood during the game. That’s why I always recorded my scrims when playing professionally to ifnd them.

I’d be very impressed if you could properly kitten yourself and you are in reality better than everyone else in your division but the only thing keeping you down is that you get awful teammates and good opponents every time.

Like, genuinely amazingly impressed

500g level impresssed.

^ support ele completely counters that comp

Ithilwen.1529:

The idea of “elo hell” applies when: player of skill level that could be (for example) Bronze or Silver finds it impossible to climb out of Bronze.

If this is your view of elo hell then there is no problem. You’re losing because you have room to improve and it’s your task to do so. The problem is when people throw out statements such as ‘’there is only one player in the world who could climb out of bronze’’ or ‘’there is no way you could ever soloque as a necro from bronze to legend’’ or equally ridicilous statments.

They poison the community and the posters saying it themselves. I’ve never seen anyone who constantly complain about his goals being impossible achieve those goals.

If elo hell=you’re at the division level your skill level represents (low silver player in high bronze-low silver) then you have a different view from the people who insist that in reality they should be platinum but it’s just their teammates holding them back.

So you saw two videos of my bronze climb gameplay (at best)

My climb in bronze was simple; my opponents were on a level where it did not matter what they played or what I pushed into. Mesmer should realistically lose to warrior and dragonhunter, stale vs engi and druid. All of these matchups I pushed into and killed with ease. I’d get outnumbered at far, kite to the highground and let my bronzies fight 4v3, sometimes 4v2 as I was 1v3. My opponents would outnumber me for a crazy amount of time and thge second they gave up on doing it I’d push into the 1v1 and instantly win it.

Do you think this would be impossible with necro? No. I’d kill the 1v1 even faster. It has nothing to do with me being one of the best players in the world because once you’re playing at my level you play it as if it’s a fighting game. I can’t show my proper skill vs opponents who arent good enough because there is no mindgames, reading and outplay potential. I killed people on a basic offensive rotation which would have worked on every single class including FA el e.

You should always play as if everything depends on you. Are you going into competitive matches expecting to be carried? Every single decision from your end should be to maximize your teams winning chances.

I’ll say it again:

Every single good necro in the game would EASILY destroy bronze. And I’m not talking ESL. I’m not talking tournament play or people I would even recognize as people on my playing field. People I’d get tilted over playing with would still annihilate opponents in bronze.

Outside of that, we have a post of a guy soloquing to legendary playing core necro. Do you think this guy would lose in bronze? Because that seems to be what you hinted at with your posts. Trust me; he wouldnt.

AngryBear.8741:

nothelseth.4621:

AngryBear.8741:

flog.3485:

AngryBear.8741:

flog.3485:

AngryBear.8741:

Now do the same with necro and we will have something to talk about…

You should take a look at this particular thread in forums wher a player reached legend using core necro

And that proves that 1 (ONE) player in entire game can do it. Thanks for proving exactly what I wanted to say.

Your assumption doesn’t prove anything imo. You really believe that all PvP players who reach legendary are out on forums saying that they finally reached this tier ?

Someone reaching legendary with necro solo queue (especially starting from bronze)? Yes, I believe everyone achieving that would post it on forums.

This is a ridicilous statement.

I don’t play necro and I could easily climb out of bronze playing it with a similiar winratio to my mesmer. People dont manage condition cleanses there or dodge key skills, you’ll literally oneshot people with either power or condi just doing reaper 5 and reaper 4.

The gameplay I did to climb bronze (push far, stand outside node when people outnumber, kill 1v1 when people finally rotate out) easily works with every single class (including fresh air ele) for bronze.

jesus, the idea that NOBODY could EVER soloque out of bronze with necro is just.. insane. There is no way you watched my climb. Absolutely no way.

I was not saying nobody can do that. I was saying that amount of people that can do that with necro, comparing to amount of people who can do it with some other class (especially mesmer), is basically statistical error.

And dude, being one of the best players achieving this proves nothing. It is like saying that because Micheal Jordan at his prime could carry any NCAA team to the title means that if you think you are good, you should be able to do the same.

And I say that literally every single good necro (legend, high plat) in the game could easily carry bronze just as easily I did on mesmer. (dont misunderstand this into me saying you need to be that level to CLIMB there. No, it’s to carry there with a 80+% winratio like I did)The only build change I’d do is slap on wurm and you’re ready to carry.

I also want to ask you again; Did you even watch my gameplay in bronze? You’re saying that I did it with help of being mesmer as if it’s relevant at all. It’s absolutely not, anyone who watched the progression would know that.

Ithilwen.1529:

I painfully learned that you don’t want to use phase retreat for the clone. Save it for jumping away from the enemy. This works especially well in Forest and Legacy mid.

This is situational. Getting a 2nd clone is extremely important for illusionary reversion which will generate more hp, alacrity and counterpressure. making sure to keep in mind about proper jumps without target is a good idea though.

@Shaogin.2679

1. if you’re absolutely certain mid is lost then yes its a good idea. More than likely the enemy team will send 2-3 players to kill you after your team got killed on middle. This gives you an opportunity to juke around and waste their time while your teammates respawn and push close→ mid and win the momentum back
2. As a druid pushing into either DH or Thief is fine but outside of that you’re likely only gonna stalemate. If you need to stalemate do it but its not a carry move
3.Druid is excellent at guarding home. Let’s beon the same page here though: dont afk on close waiting for an enemy to come. If it’s kyhlo/legacy then sit on the highground and use your range while having awareness of the closenode, chase when it’s being decapped. If it’s forest then stay on middle until you notice someone on the enemy team is missing (use the minimap). With this you can try to intercept.

It’s better to be decapped and having stayed on middle rather than not being decapped at all w hile afking on close and your team is getting wiped 4v5.

@David.5974

I think engi has plenty carry potential. I personally hate facing zan because he keeps baiting people into 2v1ing him and never dying. During this time our map is losing since we are outnumbered.

Ideas for a more offensive engi (which I feel like you’re looking for) can be marauder amulet+adaptive armor+ rampage elixir.

@Faux Play.6104

I’m personally keeping track of it with experience. A good idea though is to try what sind does and have a software which highlights your mouse like so: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2FnzIbCQjc

AngryBear.8741:

flog.3485:

AngryBear.8741:

flog.3485:

AngryBear.8741:

Now do the same with necro and we will have something to talk about…

You should take a look at this particular thread in forums wher a player reached legend using core necro

And that proves that 1 (ONE) player in entire game can do it. Thanks for proving exactly what I wanted to say.

Your assumption doesn’t prove anything imo. You really believe that all PvP players who reach legendary are out on forums saying that they finally reached this tier ?

Someone reaching legendary with necro solo queue (especially starting from bronze)? Yes, I believe everyone achieving that would post it on forums.

This is a ridicilous statement.

I don’t play necro and I could easily climb out of bronze playing it with a similiar winratio to my mesmer. People dont manage condition cleanses there or dodge key skills, you’ll literally oneshot people with either power or condi just doing reaper 5 and reaper 4.

The gameplay I did to climb bronze (push far, stand outside node when people outnumber, kill 1v1 when people finally rotate out) easily works with every single class (including fresh air ele) for bronze.

jesus, the idea that NOBODY could EVER soloque out of bronze with necro is just.. insane. There is no way you watched my climb. Absolutely no way.

Indeed, it was much better when you brought a premade of 4 people and qd into a duoq along with with 3 solos.

The better days.
The fair days.
The competitive days.

Truly, everyone respected the idea of reaching legend then.

Lordrosicky.5813:

From a pure competitive perspective it should be solo queue only. It is a shame that a lot of the top players on eu will only duo queue usually with mesmer thief and then moa far and just snowball the whole game from there.

This hurts the game. People just quit queuing when unbalanced match ups come up.

However, alot of people like to play with friends. The solution is that the matchmaker need to have a hard lock on the difference between teams. 1800 players should never be placed against these try hard 2100 duo queues. What i am saying is that if these try hards want to duo queue and stomp at 2100 rating they should have queue times of around 15 minutes.

Both sides are accurately represented here. I for one fully support solo duo because I know the insane positive effect it has to the people who want to q but don’t want to do it solo. I find it very boring on my level of play though because if I want to stay in the top 5 I’m pretty much forced to duo. Playing soloq and landing vs 2x players from rank55 makes it impossible. Meanwhile, if I duo and those guys arent playing then it’s just my side freestomping everything.

I didnt know of this solution before but league of legends have perfectly solved it IMO. Once you hit a certain rating level you can no longer duoq in ranked. This means that if me and frae want to q at 23 then we are most definitely going to face eachother every single game which makes it x100 more interesting than if we are premading and nobody else is online.

Going to push hard for this change because I think it’d do wonders for the community.

I believe my favorite part of reading these comments are how the goalpost has shifted over and over and over.

Before s5 it was said that I’d never take the top ranks and the fact that I had the winratio I had meant nothing because rigged system or something.

Once s5 hit the only reason I had legend was because I got lucky with placement matches and ofc because I duoqd.

Once I’m in 600 bronze and started climbing I was told that ‘sure you can easily carry bronze 3 but when you get into silver you’ll get the worst teammates and you wont have the same impact’’

When I started dominating there I was told that once I hit gold or platinum my carry would stop and that I would never get to legend.

Now it’s ‘’You play mesmer!’’ (as if it’s relevant, in almost all games I as a mesmer pushed in and 2v1d guardian+warrior, both classes should in top level be able to beat me 1v1) and of course the good old ‘’ESL!!’’

First of all, if you read my name you’ll see that I’m nothelseth so you’re confusing me with the esl player.

Second, to me there was never any question that I’d dominate here. It was however a question to a ton of forumgoers. I already know of people who are far worse than me (but still good players) that were able to climb through the ranks soloing. Obviously this is also with various different classes.

to see what I mean check out this first thread on the topic: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Helseth-carries-bronze-4v5

‘’Not going to happen if he just plays solo. Somewhere in gold/plat he will hit the wall of abysmal rating gains and terrible team lottery. Also don’t forget his top 10 buddies love to farm teams 300-400 ranks below them (on which Helseth will land).
As i said in other thread, you can only climb when you can basically win 1v5.’’

LUL.

I don’t understand why you guys decide to spin this in such a negative sense. It reminds me of when I was working on losing my weight and constantly encountered all these ridicilous statmeents on how it’s impossible to do so, how I’ll instantly gain it all back, etc. Genetics!

How is it more fun to look at life like this instead of seeing your own potential improvement? You’re stuck in silver? Great! That means you can get to plat once you get better. Isnt that more fun than assuming the only reason you’d get plat is because of rng and system? That’s so limiting and boring.

People see other people succeed and instead of finding improvement and motivation they go for the next excuse. Oh well.

Ragnarox.9601:

Faux Play.6104:

Ragnarox.9601:

Hes lying he was playing duo with a thief.

Not sure if you are talking to me or kitty, but I have not played a single match as a duo this season.

That kitty. was fighting him 2,3 matches always with same thief.

Every single match was played on stream. From bronze 600 to legend.

Feel free to back up your lie with a screenshot of me duoing with anyone.

Soothsayer.9206:

nothelseth.4621:

Blue.1207:

Impressive, you’ve proved that you’re a good player (no kitten). This is a sample size of 1. This proves nothing in the grand scheme of things. I’m probably leaning towards the sheer luck that you got in terms of team comp and your teammates skill level. I don’t think it matters how good you are individually if the rest of your team came straight out of queensdale.

groan

did you watch any of the streams?

what would watching the streams prove? nothing. just like this whole manufactured business of how an elite level player was able to get back to his actual level after starting out at the lowest tier.

He suggested that I maintained an 85% winratio throughout my climb because of luck in teammates and teamcomps

So I’m interested in knowing if he saw me win 1v3/1v2ss all the way through plat 2 where I consistently won games where I had 2x thieves 2x mesmer teams etc.

Soothsayer.9206:

nothelseth.4621:

henry is easily the goat baiter

for years hes been able to trick the forum into having a wild wall of text discussion for 5+ pages by writing simple small statements as facts

glad to have you back man, proof that s5 was a success

u should go into competitive fishing

So, if what you are saying is true, then trolling people on the forums makes S5 a success, what in the world sort of logic is that? Furthermore, goading people into discussions that effect a particular profession is somehow a good thing especially because it raises the ire and now wastes the time and energy of so many? Mesmer is already on the verge of being nerfed into irrelevancy and you think this is good for both community and players? So, why encourage people to spread malcontent over a venue that is supposed to be enjoyable?
By the way, probably should encourage him to stick to his day job, competitive fishing is probably a lot more work than playing GW2 and trolling forums.

I like Henry. He sparks unique conversations instead of the usual, boring and repeated conversations being parroted over and over. Even when it is a tired conversation like balance he makes it unique enough for me to click which I can’t say for other people.

You shouldnt put too much stock on how much a ‘’nerf profession’’ thread is going to have on the game. The developers may certainly read these forums but no drug is going to make anyone follow through on a decision based on what they read here.

If you don’t want to give a thread like this traffic then don’t comment on it. If you find the current conversations boring then create your own one and see if people want to talk about it here.

Say what you will about the duke here but he gets people talking.

Blue.1207:

Impressive, you’ve proved that you’re a good player (no kitten). This is a sample size of 1. This proves nothing in the grand scheme of things. I’m probably leaning towards the sheer luck that you got in terms of team comp and your teammates skill level. I don’t think it matters how good you are individually if the rest of your team came straight out of queensdale.

groan

did you watch any of the streams?

henry is easily the goat baiter

for years hes been able to trick the forum into having a wild wall of text discussion for 5+ pages by writing simple small statements as facts

glad to have you back man, proof that s5 was a success

u should go into competitive fishing

BloodriverTim.2031:

This is a bad representation of the how the system works. If he played a good number of games in bronze, then tried to climb, it would show what most users complain about. His mmr was still volatile enough to have the system pull him out of bronze, but if he got a 50% win rate for say, 30 games in bronze and then tried to climb, he would have a much more difficult time of it.

I had 600 rating. 3-7 placements.

https://youtu.be/as7RtX0JC-4?t=10
Look at the amount of games played in the vid for instance where I was still in bronze. At this point my stats were 13-2 not counting placements. I climbed the entire path, winning around 15-20 rating per win with iirc only one more loss.

How many more games would you say I had to play for my winratio to go from the 90% it was at bronze to the 50% you suggest?

‘’repeat it playing ele’’
Why would I play a support in bronze?

‘’ele is best carry class, mesmer is 2nd’’

Warrior is easily the best carry class for lower ranks.

You doubted mew.
You said the kitty wouldnt make it.

Elo hell has been destroyed by the GOAT kittykittymeowmew,

http://imgur.com/a/Tn2OW

80% winratio from 600 rating bronze to legend, all soloque, all kittyness.

now, the kitty is going to rest for the rest of the season because playing on alt accounts in legend is being a wuss.

pvp more views than ever
more hype than ever behind competitive events
more interest in pvp in general from gw than ever

top pvp players are more connected rn than ever

‘’stop esports!’’
pls, it finally has a fair chance.

xposted from reddit cus im lazy that way. It’s good for your game mods, trust me.
AIT SO THIS BLEW THE F UP WTH.
IF YOU STARTED GETTING A LILL TRYHARD W SEASON 5 THIS IS YOUR CHANCE BOYS.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GuildWars2PvPTeams/

Like absolutely INSANE support and outreach from everyone for this event. We’ve seen so many encouraging messages and we are looking to make this event as good as it can possibly be.

We will announce how we will distribute all of the donated gold and rewards the 23rd. Our goal is to make sure you get something nice as long as you win a minimum of one round and with the rate the pool is going up that’s definitely doable.

The tournament starts sunday 29th, 16:00 CET. We will be sure to have a livestream going during the entire tournament and the first rounds will be a fantastic chance for people who arent familiar with the current state of PVP to catch up before the most hype matches start.

English stream:

https://www.twitch.tv/thelordhelseth
German stream:

https://www.twitch.tv/guildnews

https://battlefy.com/eu-competitive-gw2/29th-jan-tournament/587d25b226c94b3903d77a98/info

srs tho gw2 pvp 2017 gon be nutty

PierPiero.9142:

A question about mesmer : how to use staff ? I see that if i play meta with staff i have a lot of survivability problems when i switch to it . Ok, i kite some attack with staff 2 but for the rest i feel myself naked. I am dancing between gold and silver now and i see that i win more 1vs 1 with sword /shield / scepter torch rather than with staff becouse i have much more survivability and more dbp ( torch burning is quite fun ) but i know that it is my problem and that i am not able to use staff

I know its a silly self plug but you should really check out gameplay from my stream. You’ll see how staff is properly used.

twitch.tv/thelordhelseth

I mean erm not me I’m not helseth but hes pretty good w staff.

@jzaku he doesnt stream, generally he just plays super zerky and catches people off guard with absurd bursts. I know he has the passive unblockable signet on top of having it on utility slot. Try to avoid fights with too much sustain and suprise oneshot people.

@orianna If I were you I would have gone far to the ele. Middle is dead and you’re not getting any help. You will die, ele will get outnumbered and die and map will be theirs (which is very bad on legacy)

Decapping far is always super risky. I wouldnt have disliked it if you had one of your dpsers on close such as DH in 1v1 because then only having the necro dying on mid isnt too bad. Once one dpser dies it’s impossible for the other one to not drop in a 4v3. On the other hand, killing a necro in a 3v3 doesnt mean you will quickly kill the two bunkers left on mid, making a decap safer. Losing a 4v4 is always huge momentum wise.

Holding the node was enough to win you the game so I think you did a good job with that. Giving a bunker guardian a fullcap on legacy is never a good idea.