Guild Wars 2

Only a WvW player continuous to play this game even after 6 months of no updates or even a reply from the developer.

Only a WvW player will not cry for armour repair as it his least of worries.

only a WvW player actually cares on which server he plays on, lol

WvW is meant to be played for 24 hrs, perfectly fine IF ur on NA server where the whole world SEA/Oceanics/even EU and whole for Americas plays, but this doesn’t work in EU atall.

EU is 1 region and the only timezones which are even close to active are Russian(gmt+3) Middle east(gmt 4) and spanish who don’t sleep at night :P,

i am on desolation and play on 4+ GMT and every time i login, there is absolutely nobody playing on Desolation, which is by far the most populated server in EU.

the usual “primetime” for EU only lasts for about 3-6 hours which is again riddled with quues on almost all servers and the rest 18 hours have almost no players nor coverage atall.

the only exception to this is Vizunah square, the only server with 24 hour coverage in EU, we can argue that they have canadians, french playing for 20 hours straight for everyday for the last 7 months or what ever the reasons , this has made them into a very succesful and effective but boring server using the same tactic , golem rush everything on everymap when other servers are offline and upgrade everything and just defend in the EU primetime which makes them pretty much unbeatable in EU.

This strategy though is very effective and works really well, it has de moroalised pretty much every other server in EU.

few servers, deso/SFR did have NA guilds for a brief period of time and quite easily beat Vizunah but the amount of time , but paid transfers pretty much closed these doors for every server now. and the whine from VS is just too much for anybody to handle.

go to any EU tier1/2 server threads and u will see nobody wants to play VS anymore, again its not even VS is fault, they merely adopted to a flawed points and ranking system by Anet

Apparently 3 people playing at offhours for 10 hours (30 man hours) is a lot more effective than 10 people playing for 3 hours( 30 man hours) according to the points systems.

The only solution i see is either fix the points system to reflect the population activity in WvW or make global servers.

my playtime has already decreased from 4+ hours to 1 hour now, cos of ques and when we finally get in, we have no server to fight against cos, 1 server doesn’t come out of their towers and the 3rd server has already given up in the first 2 days.

The whole point of a 3 way match is the weaker sides join and take on the bigger foe if the need arises. Else there would be only 2 sides.

Vizunah as a server is..they will do anything to win. Anybody who ever faced them will vouch for it.

make the stronger teams even stronger with blood lust, looks like Anet really learns from its mistakes..

I have played extensively in both NA and EU. Most of the replies here are right.

NA plays mostly for PPT and rarely for fights.. there are few chances where u get good fights. For example last week match between Sor/TC/SOS. Sor had won the match by the time the weekend was over. So TC being good sports also played only for fights instead oftaking a week off. In Eu, there are always fights and ppt.has little relevance.

Na has a lot of players 24/7 . When we were on desolation. There were many times when I was practically the only person on the map. But Na always has ppl around.

I think NA blobs more. But then I usually face ATM/Merc who are known to run with the whole map when they are online. EU only has VS that blobs to such exent.

The voicecoms are a lot more active in NA . I dunno only if sor is like that or most of.Na
Militia are better in Na. I still get surprised when the commander says – ignore this sentry, then nobody hits it. In eu pugs tend to do what they want.

A lot of forum warriors and drama queens on NA. Most take it too personally and guilds often accuse and insult.other guilds. Very few people tend to respect others.
In EU, guilds respect each other a lot and are often good friend of each other.
A lot less drama in eu and forum warriors very few.

Am saving for the treb mastery that will come in the next patch.
Then I can treb from Garrison to stonemist in EB.

nobody asked u to paly on NA servers. stop whining!

What if anet had actually paid attention to wvw.

Who else think that players and developers are not on the same page when it comes to WvW??

almost every change that Anet is doing is not welcomed by the players, there were times when they turned out to be right and many times the players and Anet had to revert thier changes.

What i don’t understand is why don’t the Devs interact with the community to reach to a common understanding rather than just making changes and players getting furious over it and then reverting it??

There is so much of difference between this and SPVP, a dead game mode that Anet is desperately trying to revive and the devs doing pretty much everything possible to work with the Spvp community( state of game, advertising streams etc) and
then there’s WvW community which doesn’t seem to exist at all for them.

The usual what is known for ages now:
Thief class, culling, nightcapping, lack of rewards, small maps, no variety, lack of ladders etc etc…..oh most important: the developer thinks we dont exist atall.

Dont play na so dont know.
On EU, its undoubtably FSP for me.. Amazing people. Good community.
They got night capped from 2nd rank down to tier 6 now. And u dont see the 10% of qq or ego that top servers have. Only downside is.its not too wvw focussed.

This quite honestly is not a night capping issues, more of how the points are allotted for the effort put in.

right now, my 1 hour effort at morning is a lot more fruitful than my 1 hour in the evening, which is wrong in my opinion.

fivekiller.1432:

i’ve never seen a strong argument against it.

just some baseless rhetoric, “what ifs,” and copy/paste responses of those.

the best i’ve found was made by a fellow in a similar thread who pointed out that while it may be better than the current system for many or most of the tiers. it would possibly periodically ruin the one or two good matchups that do occur here and there.

The strongest argument against it is the second placed server who is not able to win the Tier will always focus down the third to avoid losing a tier, and there is no workaround this.

for example, Desolation now is in 2nd place and cannot beat Vizunah at the moment, but they are out main target, if the rankings change, this will complete switch to us focusing down only Elona to survive in Tier 1.

Rob.7624:

The Devs are maybe busy working on WvW instead of sitting on the forums?

^The logic is strong in this one.

ur totally right, it reflects in the VAST improvements they have made in WvW

oh wait….

Ahh Kodash, 2 golems and a catapult and 20+ just to take hills with no upgrades from 3 of us???

Wow amzaing, this alone can compete with the new spvp and and new pve zone

The Outmanned buff has been renamed to Outnumbered.

/sarcasm

tough some people have stepped up for nights now, our prime time force has gone weak.

we easily held atleast 60% in the first 3 days in primetime, and now can barely keep up with kodash.

Hope some eu primetime guilds are reading this!

current score -
FSP -180k
Kodash – 165k
Augury – 125k

Vizunah…oh wait

VS cannot fight SOR, sor is too stacked for them, but then VS is 1 timezone server.

they might be as good as JQ currently, but not on par with SOR/BG in terms of coverage

However, in terms of tactics and strategy, and i don’t mean at fighting! no NA server is even close to them.

Where is the backpiece???????????

Kathy K.6812:

FearedbytheGods.8617:

To me it ties in with typical BG performance. Push hard to win one week then implode the next week. Wash and repeat.

I believe the score between Blackgate and Sanctum is 16-7… Sanctum still has a ways to go before they can do any talking.

Dat logic!!!

going by that, doesn’t JQ have like 40 wins over BG, ??

Exactly my thoughts. Wvw has become monotonous.
No rewards, nothing.. I am also getting bored of it.

I have no interest in pve or events.but looks we are the minority who wont be heard

VOLKON.1290:

The impacts of paid servers will be a long-term feel as opposed to immediately felt. Current players will finally settle into a “home” and newer players will begin to fill the rest. As long as the game continues to draw players everyone should feel the benefits over time.

before, if you were bored of losing or stale game or whatever reason, you could give it a shot from a different servers perspective, that’s what most people did.

now, people would just stop playing, right now, populations and timezone problems are a far bigger issue than Anet likes to acknowledge.

And the Payment cost based on population is so misleading!, ill give you 3 examples

1. SFR – tier 1 server, medium population, high WvW activity , so less cost on transfer
2. Blacktide – High population, but dead WvW, high cost to transfer
3. Desolation – High population, average WvW activity, High cost of transfer.

quite honestly, hes answered more posts even if most are not relevant or the standard Anet replies than the whole WvW team did in the last month,

so i like him for now

Placing acs to fight in open field fights is one of the lamest things to do in wvw. Right now this is rampant and not fun atall.
Because of this a 20.man can never take a 40 man which was pretty common before afs were buffed.

whats the point, if people just die when ramming it,

range and dmg needs a nerf badly.

no AC nerf either!!!

Poplolita.2638:

So you tried 8v8 hotjoin, and called it a day?

its my first time i tried, i clicked on the guy standing with X on his head and joined.

what did u expectme to do, read thru 1000 pages of documents before going in

i dont know if u are aware, but everytime the ooze boss fails, the next person is q has to face the 7 ooze who remain after the failure.

Adaneshade.2409:

Have you been stalking me, Cover Girl? Was sure no one was watching.

somebody saw a thief, now this is interesting!!!!!!!!!!

prx got 3 wins vs 2 losses in EU which doesnt even have an active night force other than Vizunah square , vs 10 wins and 1 loss in NA…

how is that " completely pwning"???

i have played 1200 hrs of wvw, u guys are acting like i bought the game today lol .

i said i tried spvp for the first time..

King Amadaeus.8619:

PVP=Stand in a circle to cap it, hold the most circles to win the match.
WvW=Use siege to access circles, stand in circles to cap, hold the most to win the match.

R.i.p. players killing players, welcome to the era of the PPT watchers.

haha, u described it well.

to op hang in there, its coming “soon”

I think a better idea is to just merge eu and na servers.. This will give variety and solve nightcapping problems

Moorta definitely doesn’t get enough credits for his work,
he is by far the most important commander on desolation.

aah piken and sfr.. two arrogant bros of EU.

Points don’t matter anymore, we got the short end of the stick twice already despite winning convincingly, just go with the flow and don’t make it really bad for SOS just for the sake of points.
i would also like TC and SOS teamup against SOR if it helps for a better match up.

but this is a good opportunity for GVG’s if anybody is interested.

i just hope SOR forums warriors leave the trolling to BG/JQ and not do it in this thread.

MagiKarp.8201:

Ha! Sanctum of Rall is in Tier 2 where it belongs :P

there are no tiers anymore, hope u know that. mos hasnt managed to change it yet.

i do like the interviewer however, very direct questions, Anet is prolly not used to such questions.

Svarty.8019:

Offski.4897:

Also comeon Anet let us know the new ratings system, just shows a complete lack of respect to all those who have paid for this game and put time and effort into it.

Arenanet have NO obligation to explain their internal systems to you, and I encourage them to keep them a secret.

Anet has EVERY obligation to explain stuff to us, if u buy a product from a company, it IS ur right to know and get reply from that company!

Anet would not have any obligation IF we didnt pay the money for the game.. they are not doing any charity!

We are as it looks like.

Anet is thinking how to get WvWers to PVE, not the other way around. cant u tell?

I think its more about Dev interest rather than anything else,
For example, ive been following J Sharp’s posts on forums,

He really takes his time out and very regularly interacts with the sPVP community and is always giving his view.

WvW on the other hand just has 2 developers who write 1 post every 2 weeks and that too its mostly about clarification about some random question.

Mif.3471:

War doesn’t stop for nap time.

WvW isn’t war my friend, we want it to be!!

currently it is “who has more points” and thats exactly what is boring about NA ladder and Vizunah playstle :P

Yea. Right now elona sfr and deso will.have to fight for 2 spots in tier 1. its sad that these completely dominate tier 2 which is not fun for anybody.

I have played over 1000 hrs in WvW too and hardly any PVE, and quite honestly i dont even care what we get and we dont.

IF this move brings new PVE crowd to WvW cos they are not lacking behind, its a good thing in my eyes atleast. wvW has sever populations issues right now.

All i care in WvW is to have a healthy population, good fights and be competitive which is more fun than running after titles and achievements which honestly nothing more than little pixels.

i thought WvW understood this a lot more than others.

Giving something to us WvW is appreciated, but somethings are more important to me atleast.

A better solution would be to remove jp entirely from wvw. It doesnt help the server atall other than small siege drops which can be dropped from lords instead.

yriafelc.6124:

I don’t get why we are trusting the info from a third party site.

But I do agree that we need to squeeze-out more information from Arenanet about this new maths. Work week is just starting, which is probably why we don’t get any answers yet.

are u seriously asking that question???
that third party is eons ahead of what excel sheet copy paste that u get from Anet once every 3 weeks.