Guild Wars 2

Zackie.8923:

“customer is king” is not an excuse for you to go all out and abuse employees.

Again, watch the video, it was deliberate provocation by the dev.

Sylv.5324:

… shows support for the toxic behavior that’s become rampant in certain parts of the community these last few months expecially.

It wouldn’t be so toxic if they did not keep screwing things up. But hey spin it back on the players for trying TO MAKE THE BEST OF A BLOWOUT. We have a wonderful matchmaking system that enabled a server to dominate and demoralize the other 2 servers while also ticking at above 500 but stuff those guys. They should not be allowed to make their own fun because there are people that want to play wvw on that specific BL when the others will most likely be free. Yeah, totally.

The only toxic behavior is from people who don’t think ANET can do anything wrong, especially when they haven’t been doing anything RIGHT with WvW (save the map revamp I guess, yes ONLY the revamp cos the bloodlust buff is stupid).

Sylv.5324:

AggieTechGuy.4901:

The rule is kind of unclear. What constitutes “authorized personnel”? So any ANet employee can whip out his giant “I’m special” guild tag and start ordering people around?

He was justified in whipping it out when he was being slagged for just standing there.

For some reason, folks seem to think that having an anet tag (or just being a random player) is an excuse for them to be treated like kitten, and that they should just take it because they are employees. I’m glad he spoke up, regardless of the underlying incident, because folks were acting like entitled brats.

Hopefully this won’t derail any progress toward GvG, because using this as a reason to kitten about it IMO is lousy, and showing them support just shows support for the toxic behavior that’s become rampant in certain parts of the community these last few months expecially.

well he knew this was a gvg situation and btw it was almost reset, so yeah there are gvg, dolyparades, dance parties, duels going on. he knew that was a gvg and they asked him to lleave the middle and he acts like a spoiled brat. and then when they all yell at him for that he pops the tag to show, well igot power muahaha. i got the right to destroy your gvg. u have to stop gvg and play the game. well we are playing your game and yes we are allowed to have fun other wise this is not a game then.

Another aspect of this is:

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GW2 Code Rules of Conduct

“You will follow the instructions of authorized personnel while in Guild Wars 2 or on the official Guild Wars 2 website.”

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The rule is kind of unclear. What constitutes “authorized personnel”? So any ANet employee can whip out his giant “I’m special” guild tag and start ordering people around?

Why are you guys even replying to that “kill-trading” tard? Just ignore him and his crazy statements.

Back on the topic, what happened is just really, REALLY sad. You can’t put up you ANet tag and be such a moron, you just can’t; with that tag on you are representing your company and this was so kittening stupid, disrespectful and unprofessional. Not to mention he (and not the ones who were GvGing) was breaking the ToS himself as it was already said.

ANet you really need to answer for this, such behaviour from your very own employes is just unacceptable; under no circumstances you can deal with paying customers like that.
Seriously, WTF?!?

LETS NOT GET OFF TOPIC. This guy sums up what was wrong with the whole situation very well:

some people don’t seem to understand why people are mad at what the dev did. interrupting the gvg isn’t against any rules, it may make you a kitten, but he has the same right to do it as gvgers have the right to gvg.
it’s the fact that when people got aggressive towards him telling him to stop ruining the gvg, he popped up his ANET tag as if it should mean something. i expected this sort of behavior out in the playground, “my dad can beat up your dad” and other similar kitten waving.
this should have just been another random pubbie trolling a gvg, it’s old news, nobody had to know, but no, today we finally see what kind of people are under the employ of anet.

THIS ISN’T ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU LIKE GVG. It’s about how unprofessional the dev FROM ANET ITSELF is acting. Whether or not you think GvG is a good idea, the conduct of the dev was undeniably poor.

Andrew Clear.1750:

insanemaniac.2456:

Nev.5316:

Bunch of whining kids who think they are entitled to everything , nothing has changed. G v G ruins wvw for others and the spots taken by the guilds couldve been used by others to attack the enemies cohesively.

there are no queues on those 3 servers.

they arent taking up spots that would otherwise be filled.
they are playing in an area that is out of the way of any normal pathing you would take to any objective or pve event.
(hell, they would probably help any uplevel get the nearby skill point)

shoo fly

SBI has ques. Every BL had a que for along time during prime time. EB normally has a que, well into the lat night.

SBI had 1 karma train going. Like I said, this was a Thursday night where not much was happening. You may have had a queue on 1 map at that time, but I sincerely doubt the BL we did the GvG on was queued.

Typically if a map is queued or there was something actually going on, we would go to another borderland.

Seriously, that guys with areanet icon really unprofessional anyway. Speechless~

For those complaining about GvG:

I run one of the largest WvW guilds on IoJ, and most of the people in this GvG are leaders within not only the guild, but our WvW community. When I made [CORE], I was completely uninterested in GvG, but after getting matchups where we win by 200k points or lose by 200k points, WvW was getting to feel like a chore. GvG started looking much more attractive as a form of competitive PvP, so we started practicing it with a few other guilds.

So, on a week where 90% of our server doesn’t show up to WvW and we are getting completely stomped, how is this hurting anyone? We went to an empty map on a Thursday when the matchup was 100% decided. Even if we got everyone on all maps of WvW together, we couldn’t have queued that map. So we were not taking up precious “slots” for a queue.

Some of you will say, “Why not do it in an sPvP arena?” First off, you can only do 10v10’s there. Secondly, the sPvP maps are horrible for open combat (everything is around corners, corridors, etc). Also, in sPvP you are forced into using an amulet + gemstone for your stats. I don’t know about others, but I personally don’t like being forced into using highly specialized builds by using only 1 set of armor / trinkets.

The thing is, my guild was there playing WvW last week when most others dodged. We organize WvW events, are active in our WvW sub-community, and still play horribly lopsided matchups like this. It seems to me that most of the guilds that do GvG are the ones that also organize and drive WvW in their respective servers. So cut us some slack, because overall, we have a much more positive impact on WvW throughout a week than a negative impact caused by us taking up a few slots on a map for 30-60 minutes.

Trade killing is when one side stands still and dies for the other side, then the other side does the same.
If you watch the video, both sides were trying to defeat each other.
This is not trade killing.

Genev.2450:

Tbh, if he wouldn’t have tourned on his ANet tag, he would simply have been a kittenbag like there are many.
But with his ANet tag on, he represents the company and instead of being a kittenbag, he shows an incredible lack of professionalism and respect for the customer. While I agree that the community hasn’t shown much respect back, that’s still not acceptable behaviour when representing your company.

^ This said it best.

Oh and my imagination runs wild: “You aren’t playing the game the way our Staff wants you to play it, so we are warning you, watch your back for the ban-bat”.

some people don’t seem to understand why people are mad at what the dev did. interrupting the gvg isn’t against any rules, it may make you a kitten, but he has the same right to do it as gvgers have the right to gvg.

it’s the fact that when people got aggressive towards him telling him to stop ruining the gvg, he popped up his ANET tag as if it should mean something. i expected this sort of behavior out in the playground, “my dad can beat up your dad” and other similar kitten waving.

this should have just been another random pubbie trolling a gvg, it’s old news, nobody had to know, but no, today we finally see what kind of people are under the employ of anet.

Nev.5316:

Bunch of whining kids who think they are entitled to everything , nothing has changed. G v G ruins wvw for others and the spots taken by the guilds couldve been used by others to attack the enemies cohesively.

Um check the servers… That isn’t T1. Your arguments are invalid.

Tbh, if he wouldn’t have tourned on his ANet tag, he would simply have been a kittenbag like there are many.
But with his ANet tag on, he represents the company and instead of being a kittenbag, he shows an incredible lack of professionalism and respect for the customer. While I agree that the community hasn’t shown much respect back, that’s still not acceptable behaviour when representing your company.

Andele.1306:

Morons try to play a unsupported game mode, get trolled by a quite humorous asura with power, come and complain to the source of said asura, because kitten logic.

Unsupported does not mean against the rules. By “trolling”, he is breaking the rules of conduct himself. Regardless of how humours it is, that was irresponsible and unprofessional conduct.

The best thing I can say here, is by quoting my response in the “4 Leagues instead of 2” thread:

They won’t listen unless the players get serious. Here’s how you/we stop these shenanigans. Play something, anything else for about … 2 months. Tank the metrics.
Guarantee you’ll see 4 groups in the NA League after that. Yes, it’ll be hard – especially if (like myself) you overall enjoy GW2. But, there’s the only solution I can see working, since we’re dealing with a WvW Co-ord. who thinks that 2 groups of 12 servers will result in anything but mass annoyance for most of the players involved.

Sometimes I question how much, if any, common sense the Anet dev teams has. Ok I question it all the time truth be told. You guys have to be either incredibly ignorant or simply indifferent to WvW to expect the leagues to be a success. There is such a large discrepancy between the top 3 servers and everyone else in 12 team brackets that there simply is ZERO chance to win if you are toward the bottom of those groupings. You will lack the population and the coverage to do anything other than be facerolled. Having a league COULD be a lot of fun but in any type of competitive match that gives rewards to the victors the first premise is a somewhat level playing field. This is going to be a seven week trial, doomed to fail, that we get to suffer through.

Blackjack.2083:

Sometimes I question how much, if any, common sense the Anet dev teams has. Ok I question it all the time truth be told. You guys have to be either incredibly ignorant or simply indifferent to WvW to expect the leagues to be a success. There is such a large discrepancy between the top 3 servers and everyone else in 12 team brackets that there simply is ZERO chance to win if you are toward the bottom of those groupings. You will lack the population and the coverage to do anything other than be facerolled. Having a league COULD be a lot of fun but in any type of competitive match that gives rewards to the victors the first premise is a somewhat level playing field. This is going to be a seven week trial, doomed to fail, that we get to suffer through.

I’m not sure I’ve ever seen any other major game (I’m speaking of WvW here) where the key devs so poorly understood how their own game works on such an awesome scale. It’s quite incredible …

Low pop server reporting in. The buffs stink more than steam cooked kitten. It’s tough enough being outmanned, but at least usually we can have a few fun fights. Now it’s just demoralizing. No fun at all to go out and be at a complete disadvantage not only in numbers, but in individual strength as well.