Yes Acandis, I agree you need the help!!! Feel Free to sign uP!!
It was brought to our attention that a lot of new players are on the pvp scene and aren’t really sure what they are supposed to be doing. We hope we can help!!!
As many of you all may know, our team consists of some very talented and amazing members….
Happy Kid- Multiclass
Davinci- Bunker Guard-
Wakkey- Warrior and Ele
Backpack- Engineer
Noscoc- Necro
Our team is focused on an extremely positive and friendly working environment with a NO rage policy. We would like to help both players and teams so we will be holding a symposium for both teams and players!!! Our team will all be in Seattle, WA this summer, and we will hold the event there! June 20th-22nd at the Seattle Center
http://www.seattlecenter.com/locations/detail.aspx?id=127
Entry will be free but this will fill up fast so be sure to signup ahead of time!!
The event will include everything from basic lectures on rotations and team comps, to open discussions on team strategies, and we will finish up on Sunday with some actually scrimmages!!! If this event is successful we plan to host more like it in the future, and across the country.
Team Background/Accolades
Wakkey-Former member of GFs/Twrk, very successful in a variety of tournaments, Has played Spirit Ranger, Ele and Warrior, is extremely dominant on all of them.
Davinci-2nd place finish at PAX Prime with team SYNC, plays an extremely aggressive hammer guardian
Happy Kid-along with Wakkey and Davinci, participated in a variety of tournaments, Multiclasses for the team, usually Engineer or Mesmer
Noscoc- Newer to the scene, has won a variety of Mistpedia Weeklies and 2v2 Tournaments, as well as BloodyTech GvG with Wakkey, plays a very patient Condition Necromancer
Backpack- 2nd place finishes in both Mistpedia Weeklies as well as 2v2 tournaments, one of the best 1v1 Engineers on NA
As many of you know, the team was quite disappointed with the show in the NA ToL, and will continue to improve to make sure that our play is at its highest level.
More info about the event!!!
SIGNUPS http://www.signupgenius.com/go/10C0A49A8AD2EA3FE3-seattle?uToken=25E8C3FEFC03F2075EC3DEC802E8
We look forward to seeing you all!!!
In the famous words of Happy Kid, “Points don’t decap points, People decap points”
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-backpackThe problem you’ll run into in forcing a 3 split is how infrequently they have to do it. There’s the beginning of the match you can force a 3 split until they have a 1 cap. Other than that they only need to on Kylo while treb is up and Temple while buffs are up. They will never have to 3 split on Foefire, unless they allow the opposing team to get 350. They never have to 3 split on forest after they have a 1 cap.
Vs their 2 split as long as they match up correctly they’ll probably outlast you, or at least last long enough that the respawn timer is irrelevant.
Even when they don’t match up correctly they can still last long enough that it’s punishing to the game score even if you win the fight.
It takes 3 near perfect games to beat this comp when yours isn’t bunkery. Whereas for them their comp is very forgiving on their own mistakes, and honestly doesn’t put them in a position to make many since they have less rotating than a non-bunkery comp.
The reason they have to rotate less is because the ele/guardián builds do similar things, and running dual warriors is similar too, Apex was running two hambows. Because the builds are so effective and similar this eliminates or reduces the time on potential rotations you’d make for a 2 split.
If you’d need a hambow on one of your 2 caps, it’s probably there already. If you’d need a support on a point it’s probably already there.
Conceptually the best counter I can think of for a comp that isn’t that bunkery is a warrior, Guardian, thief, thief/Mesmer, and variable non-squishy. You’d have to abuse the mobility of two thieves or thief and smart portal play in order to scew the numbers in your favor long enough to ko 1 of the 2 supports in a timely manner, then ko the Ranger or hambow with a 2v1 in the next 20 or so seconds to beat out the rotation. All this while hoping your other 2 can stay up long enough against a 2v3 that your thief can get back to them.
There’s obviously a lot of micro analysis that can be done in regard to playing each match up, but at a macro level this comp requires you to build specifically to counter it or run it in order beat it currently.
It Should not be easy to beat this comp, and APeX is very good at it, at top tier, it should require people outplaying them. There comp is limited in the sense that a really good team could win just by out rotating them…. I just realized that there is in fact no way this comp will be nerfed…. its only a problem with top tier PvP, and wont affect anyone except the top five teams or so… No random 5 people are gonna be able to pick it up and be successful with it…. BEFORE someone says KPz was able to do that, realize that all this comp really needs is semi-basic rotations and some amount of mechanical skill, which KPz already possessed, KPz did however show that this comp could be picked up by just about any team that is good, and they could at least compete with it.. and they should have won with the thief advantage, they were just too new to the builds to beat APeX
Whether or not you want to call all of Apex bunkers is up to you. The bottom line is, if two classes (guard and staff ele) can sustain a team in out numbered fights is unbalanced.. idc if your blasting your fields and peeling for each other… you should still lose that fight….now comes the question “how do you beat this comp?” Since they probably won’t Nerf it… beating this comp is relatively simple… you could say just out rotate, but since they are so hard to kill, they can rotate poorly and slow, and still get to the fight in time…. the real success of Apexs comp is tarcis aka 1v1 hero…..you have to play three points to beat them, GF showed us that when they got 500-50 by kpex… so I say it here, if you have someone who can consistently beat tarcis, you will win the game as long as you can simply sustain on the other points which unfortunately will require something close to a mirror comp… the second strategy which we(outplayed by children) tried on legacy is simply setting up fights from the beginning, that you know you can win.. for instance nos(necro) and (engi) pushed far at start, because we knew we could 2v2 anyone on their team .. meanwhile we set up a 2v2 on home because we knew they would push chubbz and knight, so we left our other engi and our ele there to fight them, and leaving the two guards on mid… we won both our 2v2s and then clapses mid to secure a 3 cap, by setting up our fights we were able to win all of them…. this opener alone gave us a 150 point lead and should have been enough to beat them… however they set up there fights off respawn and ended up coming back and winning on a lord rush 500-480, due to the fact we played terribly towards the end… so tldr don’t let them choose fights at start, or 1v1 slay tarcis. -backpack
Even if Gf is best team NA, which unfortunately for you, they no longer are, apex and caeds team bothhave winning records vs gf… But all na teams would be dominated by eu… in the GF tourmey and at pax prime we sAW Eu teams 3-0 na so easily… TCG might be the best EU team ever so idk… I see no weakness in anything they do…in general eu rotates much better and on a player to player basis, it just gets out of hand… I’m sure all of gf will admit tch is better
I think it comes down to 5 teams…. gf, apex, outplayed by children, pz, and team lonely….Everyone else will get stream rolled… gf got a free ride to final four bc they only play random teams… outplayed vs pz could go both ways, the winner will play and beat gf.. advancing to finals… lonely will fight apex in final 4 and idk who will win but they will both lose to pz or outplayed
I have a level 80 mage, and a level 80 beast master ranger. I have played GW2 for a few months now, and I LOVE the game.. with the new PvP rewards, I have begun solo quing but my team is always losing…. I play my mage with phantasms and PU, and I win all my fights but my team still loses… What can I do to make my team win more. I think my record is like 6-51, I just dont know what to do. I am willing to change build or class if that helps!!! Please help me out so my team can start winning!!!
Other posts have addressed parts of this, but the main idea is to fill the wardrobe/allow pvpers to use their mats. I know probably 1000s of players who don’t have full sets of skins that they could easily make. Im rank 51 I have multiply stacks of slivers, crystals,paid and free tokens and almost 4k powder. The thing I’m missing? Gear and rank tokens. I can no longer attain gear chests which were extremely cheap before glory was removed. I have no way to get more bear tokens or consumable tokens to fill my locker. I can get gear tokens from the chests I have left, but it is still a slow pace for what should and was be an easy reward. I understand that you dont want pvers getting all their gear easy, but veteran pvp players were also unprepared for the wardrobe, and rushed to spend glory because we were told it would be removed. I ask that Rank reward chests and tokens be sold for silver at approx 2s for copper chests etc… the same goes for consumable and gear tokens. If this is something you could do before the update it would be great for veteran players. If not please respond with why so I at least get a good understanding. Thank you backpack
Oh man.. zoose just dodged a bullet on that one… btw all thosE people still play
31. All the coordinators are well qualified and familiar with the game….