See how high on the leaderboards you can get by NEVER WINNING!!! Just get 400 points every game, AFK or try really hard to do whats needed!!! You will get +3 per game, because well ur MMR will be sooooo bad
INB rank 1- 0-3000 ~ 9000 POINTS
WOOOO HOOO
I have played against your team before. I have also played against GF, APEX and a few other teams in the past with casual players in the old tpvp system. You guys don’t even compare on an individual skill level. Your team just reminds me of WvW zergers.
And if you think ele and engie aren’t harder classes to play than other classes also lol…
I’m talking about mechanics and not balance if you don’t understand.
ps Go back and look at the notes for the lich “nerf”.. lol…
hi Ive been playing competitive pvp for a while
yes individually radioactive is not that great
however I would also like to point out that d/d ele and cele engi are ridiculously easy builds to run. Seriously try to play them in competitive pvp with like 5-15hours and youll do just fine. I consistantly beat people with my <20 hour d/d ele who have played thousands of hours on their classes (I still got rekt by caed in that ESL monthly tho cuz Ive never fought a dp thief on my ele before LOL)
hi I’ve been playing competitive pvp for a while
yes individually radioactive is not that great
however i would like to point out that their builds are very easy to play… In fact…. it turns out NOTHING IN THIS GAME IS OR WILL EVER BE hard to play….
Why doesn’t Boreal beat Abjured? why doesn’t bob and joe’s cele team beat Boreal?
Because regardless of the comp the better players will still be on top…
This game which is aiming for exports, should be balanced from the top down… at the top, we see the best players…. People saying players like Wakkey and other Abjured members would be no-one without celestial….
Well here we go
BEFORE CELESTIAL
Wakkey- Played on Good Fights the best team on NA for about 6 months
Magic Toker-Played on Good Fights the best team on NA for about 6 months
Five Guage- Played on Good Fights the best team on NA for about 6 months
Phantaram- Played on Team Paradigm and The Civilized Gentlemen
Noscoc-doesnt use cele
Caed- doesn’t use cele
Ostrich Eggs- used rabid for most of career on top teams
the list goes on…
The best players will be at the top regardless of the meta….
Celestial is honestly probably the best meta this game has ever seen…
Lets review
Bunker- no fun, no kills, super slow games
Burst- un-avoidable insta kills, basically who instantly kills the other without counter play
Condi- slowly melt to death
Celestial Combines condis bunker and DPS>>> You can instant kill if you combo, you can overload with condis, you can sustain if grouped up… IE it combines all the play styles into one…. catering to all play types.. This actually allows the greatest build diversity and comp diversity..
I main celestial Engineer in competitive Tpvp. I can carry better on Celestial engineer than anyone else can on their respective classes. The reason you see “pro” players swapping classes in Solo q is because they are bored with their main…. They do not care if they are winning solo qs…. All the top players would carry with their respective class.
If you are new however and want something easy to play that can “carry” id use the following builds
Brand New (you literally just bought the game off steam for 5$ and are bored)
Turret Engi
MM necro
Intermediate (You took a portal from PvE land)
Celestial Ele
Celestial Engi
S/d or D/p Thief
Necro
Basically in order to carry I think you need a build that can kill others. Supporting builds such as guards and some warriors can have trouble carrying because they rely on their teams doing damage. I recommend that you run something with high mobility and high damage..
TLDR : If you are already playing the game, and you are good, you will carry…. If you are not very good but want to carry, try cele ele or engi these builds can support a wide range of skill from newbie to advanced… if you still can’t carry… well i think GASMs dungeon squad is recruiting
am I missing something?
YeA /charssssssss
what are your thoughts on lich and war banner?
I am generally interested in what you (community and Anet) think the leaderboards are. Do they show best players? Do they show most games? Do they show best W/L? Is skill the only factor??
As it stands these leaderboards are about 90% time played— 10% “skill” — what Anet thinks you are…..
IS this what the leaderboards should represent? IDK you tell me..
In most circumstances leaderboards in PVP show the best players at the top.
What is a “best” player? Seeing as this is ranked TEAM Q, I associate the best players as people who win a lot of their games, vs equally skilled opponents, in the Highest MMR bracket…
SO Anet.. What does your leaderboard show?
The infamous team that once ruled the North American scene IS RETURNING with one of its former members!!!
I’m Backpack and due to age restrictions I cannot play with the Abjured or any other top team competing for WTS… As a result I am forming a team to participate in ESL weekly events.
No one has a spot guaranteed yet— accepting all tryouts!
Looking for
D/D Eles
Shout Warrior
Cele Engis
Condi Necros
Currently The team stands
Backpack
Thrackit
Gorn
Serane
Karina
Anyone can be cut!!
I am especially looking for superb mechanical skill. I do not expect anyone to be able to rotate as fast as needed. I will be teaching the members of my team how to rotate and play at the highest level in this game. If you think you have what it takes to tryout whisper Backpack God in game, or leave a mail….
Requirements: Mic
Gw2 installed
mechanical skill
tolerance for abuse
Since ANet clearly can’t set up a leaderboard that is representative of the best players in the game… I WILL!!
Teams:
1. The Abjured
2. Outplayed By Children
3. DoD
4. Radioactive
5. Olrun/Kizos
North America-
Phantaram
Wakkey
Noscoc
Toker
Tarcis
Hman
Chaith
Caed
Ostrich Eggs
Muffinz
Supcutie
Reevz
Zoose
Java
Kaypud
Aeroxe
Hibify
Edison
Karina
Thrackit
Gorn
Ender
Snuffles
Ozie
Physics
Olrun
Kizos
Zombify
Crysis
Lil Damage
Ferox
kitten
Mila Storm
Don’t See yourself listed>? Unlike the GW2 leaderboards, we actually want less games! So if you have more than 1000 solo qs, you won’t be on this leaderboard!!!
Instead of rewarding you for losing, this leaderboard thinks you are really bad!!!
If you are not happy bc you are either not on, or not the right rank, please send Backpack God a mail in game with 100g and the rank you think is appropriate for you
I did not instigate anything nor am I responsible for anyone else’s behavior. If everyone else was “mature” they would not say anything at all. This however is not the case, it was almost 50 people saying something when Caed died. When you play in these tournaments you subject yourself to the wrath and judgement of the almighty beings on the Internet…
Edit: Matter of fact, I’m not even going to play another tpvp game, that really kittened me off, and I got better things to do than waste my time getting angry at your broken tpvp.
I’m done, I might play later but tonight that’s it, no more of this crap. Not in the mood to play the game normally and take screenshots of more crap I expect because lately I’ve been seeing a lot of crap happen in this game and its come to the point where I expect the game to be crappy.
#done
no more proof of stupid stuff happening cuz I aint playing anymore today, sick of crap after crap. Funny how when I went on that 17 game losing streak of being just sore luck with everything possible, I lasted that long to keep playing, but now just 1 piece of crap, the very first game, and I’m done. #doneLOL! Contradict yourself much?
Honestly, at this point all signs point to a player skill issue
The bragging will start about how good they are on the ladder when they just played a lot of games. You should just delete it and restart updating the old leaderboard. Just fix the decay . Don’t allow people to afk for months and then get rank 1 on the ladder.
And so many of us solo Q in ranked which gives premades a free win. At least in team Q there was way less solo Q’ers. Most people have an inflated win rate atm if they only played with premade.
Its not even about player skill its literally farming people at a disadvantage.
So winning 10-15 games straight and placing top ranked (old system) is more fair than actually having to grind to see your effective skill level? No more teams that play once a week at low peek times on the weekday against baddies… You’re practically forced to play more games against high rated teams to earn your max 5 points per game.
A person with a higher average of points earned per game Should be ranked higher, than a person with a lower average rank points earned per game. How is this not more fair?
All the games I play are at PRIME TIME, playing the highest MMR players available…. should I really be punished LOL… Im playing roughly 15 games a week now… all at prime time, 500-0ing every single one….
Someone who Qs 100 times a week and wins half their games SHOULD NOT BE HIGHER OR EVEN CLOSE to my MMR or my leaderboard rank…
You make it sould like I am Q dodging and scared to play good players…. I am team quing with the most competitive teams in the game… SURE I would love to play a similarly skilled team… Fact is: there are none.. Why should I then get punished for not having a worthy adversary??
Solo Q 100 Times this week, then we’ll talk ratings. Ill bet the more you Solo Q the more your percentage will average out to a lower one.
Im not impressed in the slightest by players who get together and form a team/practice and play randoms that group up. This has been moot since the days of quake 1…
This is a team game. I want to play with players around my skill level. Solo q always matches me with players drastically below my skill level (both on my team and enemy team). I find it un-fun to play with people who dont know how to rotate and play this game effectively. I can control my team, by team quing. Rated q is supposed to be for teams, stop telling teams to dispand.. this game needs more teams.. I’m not going to torture myself by playing with people who really dont play the game near my level. That is most definitely not a solution.
I cannot WAIT to see teams slowly kill each other using the attrition amulet known as celestial.
Everyone reading this post, close your eyes and imagine a streamed tournament where celestial was NOT allowed, now wouldn’t it be interesting to see a team other than abjured/absurd potentially win? It would also be pretty interesting to watch if people actually died occasionally.Skip to 45min in on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNZCZHDYurE to catch a glimpse of what I mean.
You are right bird of fire it was much more fun to watch bad players Insta kill other bad players with an auto attack on their elite form I wish all competitive player versus player action looked this good
You think you won’t be high on the leader boards?
Nope, probably won’t break top 100 because I refuse to pub stomp my way to the top. My playstyle is to team queue when other teams are playing, for quality matches and to not annoy people who aren’t expecting to face an Abjured pug. I might play 25-30 games a week.
That bothers you doesn’t it
What would you suggest? I can queue up and stomp you and other unsuspecting, average players for 20 hours a week if you’d prefer. I’d definitely be top rated!
Do you see why incentivizing top teams to do this in order to stay competitive is bad?
Here’s an idea. Set up 5 v 5 scrims versus those “top 20 elite” players until this is “fixed”. Gosh, I’m such a genius.
Backpack still being a 16 year old brat. Jesus. Cannot wait for you to start college or get an actual job. You worry about the dumbest stuff ever.
Glad you are worrying about a 17 year olds worries LOL.. Telling me I have too much time, when you have enough time to call a “kid” out on the forums… Hbu get good and stop worrying about others
You think you won’t be high on the leader boards?
Nope, probably won’t break top 100 because I refuse to pub stomp my way to the top. My playstyle is to team queue when other teams are playing, for quality matches and to not annoy people who aren’t expecting to face an Abjured pug. I might play 25-30 games a week.
That bothers you doesn’t it
What would you suggest? I can queue up and stomp you and other unsuspecting, average players for 20 hours a week if you’d prefer. I’d definitely be top rated!
Do you see why incentivizing top teams to do this in order to stay competitive is bad?
I do not see how revamping leader boards and giving out glorious armor/llama finishers somehow is an incentive to top players
That is clearly something that is geared towards bringing in new/casual/average players
The only incentive for you guys to play and practice is money tournaments – Do you really care about the leader boards? Does it matter if you are not in the top 100?
If the system is well done I think you guys will be represented in the top of the leader boards regardless
This last part is vital to the games success. I posted this many times over the last year on the forums. Please don’t sacrifice this ideal because it is so important. Some people will QQ about it. But they have vested interests. It is so important that less skilled people who play alot are rewarded.
I think what people might be forgetting, is that we also have tournaments, ESL cups, etc. to cater to those who want skill to be the absolute determinant.
What should it be based on other than skill? Lol effort???
Backpacks rotation guide on utube https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jvPb2jY19oU
Accepted.
Team manager and owner, Backpack
Here is my problem justin. Leaderboards are supposed to show the best players. Currently there are 4 teams that basically win 99% of their matches vs others. These teams consist of 20 players who I honestly would all rank in the top 50 and ideally should hold the top 20 spots.
Abjured absurd radioactive and the dankening.
There are basically these four teams in top tier PVP. All these teams play at prime time with their full roster.
Abjured – undefeated
Absurd- undefeated
Radioactive- 30-x. All losses to abjured or absurd
Dankening – hasn’t team qd in new system
I understand that these players represent an extremely small portion of the community but the fact remains they are the best.
The leaderboard should reflect this. Honestly I think you guys need a “pro” leaderboard (maybe this is already coming with seasons) where players on top tier teams are shown…. Or it could even be guild based. Regardless the current system just isn’t working for this population of players
I agree a .5 ratio is ideal… But when there isn’t adequate teams to create this, you guys need to swoop In and fix it. ( make bots that can beat us??) currently in your system people are getting yolo points for losing to “better” players in solo q…
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Ingame handicaps? Last I checked my opponents are not kittened, they are just bad… they don’t need a handicap they need to get better, if i am 500-0ing, its because my team is better… Last I checked the whole point of these seasons was to reward playing as a team
Lopez is right that I am right.
Your MMR rises or falls based on how often the team you are on exceeds expectations or fails to meet expectations.
Have you not seen the Ladder Points chart yet?
You can actually gain Ladder points if your team is expected to lose and score only about 150 points, but instead gets 300 points…and loses!
Yeah but if our team is expected to win every time we’ll get 1 point per game. Then we’ll need to play a game for every point we want.. and if we do lose it’ll be like -3
Then you will have to leave your comfort zone and prove your INDIVIDUAL skill by playing in worse rosters/not premades to move up faster.
This game is a team game lol, your supposed to be getting better as a team not showing how u can “carry” bad players
Playing with a team should be the highest reward form in this game, not shunned as “face rolling” and given LESS rewards then LOSINGwell, highest reward means entering those usd 50k tournaments and winning cold hard cash for you and your team.
otherwise, it is kinda face rolling if your team is destroying all other casual / average / below average teams.
IM 17, I can’t play with my team in those tournaments. What do I play for?
The other tournaments? The ESL tournaments?
I have played in these, however that being said, they are held once a week on Sundays. Should I just not play the rest of the week? I want to be rewarded for my time invested. At the moment the only “event” I can do during the week is team Q. I want to be rewarded for playing team Q, and like many I enjoy team Q quite a lot. I WOULD love to lose half of my matches because it would mean that there are other competitive teams that are putting up close games with me. However that isn’t the reality and as it stands only a few players dominate the scene. I am totally for having “grindable” Pvp stuff… Reward tracks are just an example… But for leaderboards which are supposed to represent the best players in the game, and since they are releasing exclusive armor (same amount we got from Winning Tournament of Glory) I feel that the leaderboards should be one thing that is based on skill, NOT time played. That being said I think that 100-200 games should be required to even be on the leaderboards. I don’t think going 60-70 should put you anywhere near r1.
Lopez is right that I am right.
Your MMR rises or falls based on how often the team you are on exceeds expectations or fails to meet expectations.
Have you not seen the Ladder Points chart yet?
You can actually gain Ladder points if your team is expected to lose and score only about 150 points, but instead gets 300 points…and loses!
Yeah but if our team is expected to win every time we’ll get 1 point per game. Then we’ll need to play a game for every point we want.. and if we do lose it’ll be like -3
Then you will have to leave your comfort zone and prove your INDIVIDUAL skill by playing in worse rosters/not premades to move up faster.
This game is a team game lol, your supposed to be getting better as a team not showing how u can “carry” bad players
Playing with a team should be the highest reward form in this game, not shunned as “face rolling” and given LESS rewards then LOSINGwell, highest reward means entering those usd 50k tournaments and winning cold hard cash for you and your team.
otherwise, it is kinda face rolling if your team is destroying all other casual / average / below average teams.
IM 17, I can’t play with my team in those tournaments. What do I play for?
Well seeing as Anet wants the players to grind to be on the top of the leaderboard… u will see me say it here first. In this first season I’m going to try and play 500 games. Win every single one. IF i am not the number 1-10 rated player in the leaderboard, I will quit team Q for good.
I will go ahead and say sorry to the 500 teams that I am going to steamroll. You can thank Anet for making us Grind so many games to claim what is rightfully ours.
Love, backpack
Lopez is right that I am right.
Your MMR rises or falls based on how often the team you are on exceeds expectations or fails to meet expectations.
Have you not seen the Ladder Points chart yet?
You can actually gain Ladder points if your team is expected to lose and score only about 150 points, but instead gets 300 points…and loses!
Yeah but if our team is expected to win every time we’ll get 1 point per game. Then we’ll need to play a game for every point we want.. and if we do lose it’ll be like -3
Then you will have to leave your comfort zone and prove your INDIVIDUAL skill by playing in worse rosters/not premades to move up faster.
This game is a team game lol, your supposed to be getting better as a team not showing how u can “carry” bad players
Playing with a team should be the highest reward form in this game, not shunned as “face rolling” and given LESS rewards then LOSING
This new point system. Player X can beat the top team in the game 100 times, finish 100-0 and have a maximum of 300 points. Player Y can play randoms 10000 times, lose half and finish with something around 5k-7.5k points… Umm >?? Not actually representative of top players
unless i am mistaken, the leaderboard on the 16th will be based simply on who has more points??
I represent an extremely small portion of pvp players. I checked my data over the past 10months, I’ve gone 600 wins and about 40 loses, maintaining r1-10 on team leaderboards (aka only playing good players when they are available) …
When you say it is more skill or whatever to have closer games??? That makes no since, my team is always gonna face roll everyone, even the 2nd and 3rd best team in the game get 500-20 by Abjured/Absurd Pug. This ladder rewards the top players in PvP. It makes no since for someone who loses half of their games “in a close fashion” to be near someone who wins basically all the games regardless of opponent. I understand that you want players who play more to be rewarded, but in this new system, someone who wins half their games, but plays 5000 games will do better than someone who plays 2000 games and wins literally every single one. That is ridiculous. PvP leaderboards is turned into a PvE grandest where i have to kill these players that resemble medium golems in order to stay on top of leaderboards….
TLDR Don’t make most games = Top, and a .5 w/l vs a .9 w/s lol.. you guys said the .5 was better because he was LOSING closer…. thats ridiculous, the .9 is face rolling… BECAUSE HE IS BETTER
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Caption this WTS moment.
Toker- yo kitten, who’s the peasant now?
Helseth- I suppose I am your majesty.
Lol… Just bc ur getting rekt doesn’t mean ur fighting a premade, ur probably just bad #psi
Really though Backpack do you really think your qualified to judge EU players’ skill? How is Toker better than Sizer? What does advanced meta even mean? Double Engi isn’t advanced at all, it’s so easy to counter. Your biased dude.
Abjureds comp is not optimal, thank you for proving my point about NA representation not being its best because the necro in that comp was replaced by an engi…
Toker did farm sizer in those scrims AND before one of sizers fan comes and says that his map awareness makes him better… The reason Toker kills him is because he doesn’t see Toker coming and Toker has more mechanical skill
NA vs EU
This debate has gone on since release and due to poor representations by North American teams, many people believe that Europe is better. During the all star event we saw NA players who do not even constitute the best teams on NA (1/5) vs The “best” European team. At pax we saw Hiba throw the NA finals which sent Zombify and Davinci to pax prime…..
Even this WTS will not determine which region is better… Abjured which has half of its optimal roster and TCG which might not be the best team EU (CM/MIM)
So with my highly analytical skills i will determine the best region in the game.
On a individual level I will analyze the best players of each region vs each other
(* means better)
Guardian-eu
Necro-NA
Ele-NA
Mesmer-eu
Ranger- who cares
Warrior-eu
Thief-NA
Engi-NA
Now team rotations
NA* vs EU
More teams
NA vs EU*
Advanced meta
NA* vs EU
3 to 1 in favor of NA
Therefore NA is the better region
If you want more info on a given analysis please ask!
most players use a combination of both… I have been very successful using Autorun
Im not saying I would run that….
But others could and it could give them bogus wins….
IT HAPPENED when you guys released skyhammer in team q 24/7 for a weekend…. a 4engi and 1 ranger team went like 30-0 and beat all the top teams of the time
Great! This is awesome!!! My team (we win every team q) will play and some mid tier team is gonna run 5 engis ... They know they can’t win in any other circumstance.... They build only for Skyhammer ... Gj anet. This is what we meant when we said we wanted more competition in high lvl play
What happens if it’s a tie 50% for two maps … Which gets chosen
This is unfair. Solo Q was thought of as a “joke” where you go to test builds and such… 4v5s and Afkers make this leaderboard and thus W/L ratio extremely volatile and unimportant
I personally would HAVE NEVER solo Qed if I knew it would combine with my team Q W/L to create an overall W/L… The ratio for my Account (Mike.4830) Will go from 80.12% W/L in team Q >>>>> 72% in Rated Q…
An 8% drop. That is unfair
My other acc cant use forums atm but that account is: 1009-250 in team q (80.14%)
and 729-423 in Solo q (63.28%) Merging them would drop my W/L ratio from 80.14% to 72.08% AN 8% rating drop is huge… and after two years my skill level has greatly increased…. even my team q W/L is deceiving
1009-250 11/20/2014
463-193 1/30/2014
Meaning that I improved from a 71.23% to (546-57) 90.57% over the course of a year…
This is why I want an overall reset of all W/L BUT at the very least dont include solo q
So yea… I feel that is should be wiped clean or solo q shouldn’t be counted
I never really tried at solo q and never cared about my w/l otherwise I wouldn’t have played it.
I worked hard to keep my w/l at a good ratio in team q, Its unfair that my rankings would be changed
The fact that your only using team q MMR shows that you know how poorly solo q ranking and w/l is
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Wakkey is way better at teamfighting than anyone else, so i added emphasis
Yea were back! And with the end of the leaderboard system in our near future, it is time for the last top 15… This list compiles the top 15players on Backpack Co’s Internal Leaderboards ©
Within the top 15 il be creating 2 lists : 15 top 1v1s (Meta builds only) 15 top team fighters
1v1: These players demonstrate over and over their ability to 1v1 anyone one in high pressure situations
1. Phantaram
2. Noscoc
3. Magic Toker
4. Wakkey
5. Denshee
6. Caed
7. Tarcis
8. Java
9. Chaith
10. Zoose
11. Kaypud
12. Reevz
13. Hman
14. Muffinz
15. Skovex
Teamfighter: These players stand out for carrying their teams in team fights. They demonstrate their abilities through both offensive and defensive peels, and their ability to position themselves as well as deal pressure in a team fight
1. Wakkey
2. Wakkey
3. Wakkey
4. Phantaram
5. Toker
6. Denshee
7. Java
8. Hman
9. Reevz
10. Chaith
11. Tarcis
12. Skovex
13. Ostrich Eggs
14. Zoose
15. Gibbly
Welp, I am arguing that no one should get rewards for SOLO q. Lets be honest even if you are 800-200 in solo Q or whatever, you are probably still pretty terrible at the game…. Sooo yea no one in solo q should get rewards
EVERY FRECKING TIME I SOLO Q I LOSE~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i just want top 20 ladderbords so that i get a armor bc i played game so i long i think i deserve it and every time i solo q ITS VS 5 engis and they put their turrts and i cant do anythig i go far and there are 20 turrets so i got to go mid and help them win that fight but there is 20 turrets there so im like okay tehre cant be any turrets when i go homee but when i get there a turret is fighting my teamte and he is alredy dead Engis are just unbeatable, they have so much mobility and block and dodges and inlvuns you just cant beat them and they have enough damamge to kill 3 people at one time
I cant win soloq unelsss i go these easy buidl but when i go turrets i lose 1v1 and get caled nooob by others and i hate that cuz im not a noob im bein forced to play this stupid build bc like everyone who plays solo q plays turret engi PLS Help
Lol, it’s supposed to be ultra rare… I can buy a legendary with gems at this point… Before this update there is less than 50 people who had this type of armor
“Because we’re transitioning how leaderboards are handled, we want to reward all the players who have fought their way to the top of the leaderboards in the old system. For your efforts, we’ll be awarding a piece of Glorious Hero’s armor to the top 20 players on both the solo and team arena leaderboards. "
Ummm Maybe you shud
What a joke.
Glad il be able to reap the rewards with a few months of decay.. But srsly
This armor was sposed to be for the best competitive players… I’m afraid none of which really solo q
Granted both my accounts are top 20 on both leaderboards… I still find it sad that solo qrs are getting this armor
@Ghaelon
Lets face it bud. You have very limited experience playing this game with and against top players. As a result your perception of all the classes in this game is extremely skewed. I strongly believe that games should be balanced from the top down. In other words, balancing should take place at the highest level of play. Mesmer is at a distinct advantage when facing engineer in 5v5 conquest. Ask any TOP mesmer (Helseth, Supcutie etc) how they feel about fighting engis. I think the main problem you currently face is that your mechanical skill is not quite high enough for you to fight engis. I know this is a problem that many people face and that it can be very difficult to deal with this. Sorry. But both Mesmer and Necro are at a distinct advantage vs Engineer. Thief when played flawlessly, is able to beat anything 1v1 (Sizer/Toker get close at S/D Acro). Ele goes even. To say that you cant fight an engineer on point is silly. Leave a portal and use your mobility to burst mid, what can he do??? OR simply fight off node (while he is on it)… see what happens…. But honestly, your opinion seems very based around an underlying Player Skill Issue.
Come showcase your skill and improve!
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/NA-Learn-to-rotate-and-play-from-Top-Players/first#post4538120
Come showcase your skill and improve!
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/NA-Learn-to-rotate-and-play-from-Top-Players/first#post4538120
Come showcase your skill and improve!
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/NA-Learn-to-rotate-and-play-from-Top-Players/first#post4538120
Come showcase your skill and improve!
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/NA-Learn-to-rotate-and-play-from-Top-Players/first#post4538120
Come showcase your skill and improve!
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/NA-Learn-to-rotate-and-play-from-Top-Players/first#post4538120
Be wary of what he says considering last night, we were having a good time tpvp pugging, decided to pick up backpack. He went on his alt and promptly threw the game by going on a Mortor engi and then running to the enemy team and actually telling them what points we had open and asking the opposing team to take them. If anyone is looking for engineer advice remember there are a lot trolly options like five gauge, or ostrich, or reevzy.
I could not help it that we lost. That team played very well.
To be honest the numbers suggest you should always pick it up. However I often times find myself blasting the extra heal so that Im sitting with a higher health pool. I also blast it for offensive reasons. The only times I really try to pick it up is when I’m fighting condi heavy classes and need the extra cleanse… Also when defensively peeling for a teamate I blast it to give them the extra heal(be careful that you are in range the blast has a much smaller radius than the actual heal)
(edited by Aaron.2413)