Hello I play engineer at the highest level of gw2 PVP. I have won the tournament of legends 2 and placed second in the tournament of glory. This guide covers the build I use and how to play it!
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Backpack multi class
Rat?
In dota 2, there is a strategy called rat dota. The fundamental basis of it is to avoid large teamfights usually at all costs and instead push multiple lanes at the same time. If a few people die due to stupid actions or whatever, it’s okay because in another lane (there are 3 of them) the team is getting more control via the rat. At any point in time, if anyone tries to take back control of the lane with overwhelming numbers, the “rat” will flee back to base and attempt to push another lane.
Basically how I understood you was: Skirmish comps will avoid teamfights they know are not advantageous for them and instead attempt to disengage and spread out to other points on the map so they will always attempt to have at least a 2 cap. Celestial gear allows them to at least hold out long enough in a +1 outnumbered fight so that they can eventually get reinforcements.
yup, but the rotations are very hard for most people to be successful with
So basically what you’re saying is we’re playing rat GW2 here when fighting a skirmish comp. Fantastic.
Crashing 4 on them works in almost every level of play (except top tier)… however I recommend you do a 4-0-1 so that your player pushing can hold a nuet 1v1, not 2v1
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This is for anyone who would like to answer it:
One thing that has always been itching me is why, if you’re facing a skirmish-focused comp, people don’t try and force a teamfight? I mean it’s not like we’re facing extreme out-rotators here like a thief/mes comp which can force multiple people to go afk on point for at minimum 15-20 secs (shadow refuge) and at max 60 (mesmer portal). At most, they have 1 thief. This comes off as common sense to me.
Say 1 – 2 – 2 split comes from a skirmish comp. Why not send four people to obliterate the 2 going far, then steamroll mid while they’re on death counter? Skirmish builds are builds that are so focused on establishing extremely early momentum (the dreaded 3 cap). If they can’t establish it early, it’s extremely hard to re-gain it again.
Because they are running 5dps, they will have 2v1 (soon to be 3v1) mid and they will kill your player just as fast… By the time you get to mid it will be 3v4 and they will have respawn advantage…. Also of the 2 pushing far, generally one can escape
That being said, your example has been used before…. however in general players pushing a 1-2-2 are very good mechanically and those two pushing far can kite very well (ele engi necro thief etc) and since they are not defending a point they can run away anywhere
However in general if you force that 4v2, you will get 2 capped and they will be back in the midfight well before its lost….
I will also add that on most maps, it is hard to hide 4 people.. the 2 pushing far can swing mid and clapse on that player, establishing a 2cap…
As far as 4v2ing mid game, most teams will match numbers quick enough that you dont have much of an advantage. ( your team would have to regroup in base and push out together)
In general if you send 4 mid, a good scirmish comp that is NOT (most are) confident in their teamfighting, will break off to sides
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lol basing whether a class is viable off of solo q is sooooo stupid….. As you can see im r1 Solo q….. I hadnt played in 5months, i Played 1 game, went up 17k ranks to rank 1…… I play pistol/pistol 17 13 28 12 10 thief…. does that make it viable?? Warrior is fine, you just cant be as terrible when you play it….
Backpack and Nos looking for the 2 best eles in the game…. please respond here
This will be to farm gems every week, you can expect 2k gems per week
Leave IGN : Prior Team Experience : What you think your role on D/D ele will be
NOTE: So we neeed 2 eles…. if you are mechanically bad, dont reply here…. if you dont know how to rotate quickly without being told, dont reply here…. If you honestly think you are the best ele in the game, you may reply here
OUR success rate: Currently in MP 5v5 Conquest Events when playing together we have a 100% success rate winning probably about 15-20 weeks of 5v5 tournaments…..
Yea he only reason we have Thad on our team is im friends with his father. Society connections got him in, not skill.
No guardian is better. Na meta is better than eu…. CM showed this when they destroyed everyone with an NA like comp
You won’t win a 2v2 if you have a guard in it….
You won’t win a 2v2 if they have a Necro
5 hybrid classes works with less coordination, but you can still achieve a high level of coordination with it to the point that it dominates TCGs comp
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Just gonna leave this here…
ps. no voip
In light of recent events id like to move Blacklisted to R1 on my list
Blacklisted
Abjured
Cognitive
Apex
RoughBoyz
Don’t cry because it’s over. Smile because it happened.
You know you’re in love when you can’t fall asleep because reality is finally better than your dreams. I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells. Fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living. You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose. You’re on your own. And you know what you know. And YOU are the one who’ll decide where to go… Sometimes the questions are complicated and the answers are simple.
Today you are You, that is truer than true. There is no one alive who is Youer than You.
The more that you read, the more things you will know. The more that you learn, the more places you’ll go. Fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living, it’s a way of looking at life through the wrong end of a telescope. I have heard there are troubles of more than one kind. Some come from ahead and some come from behind. But I’ve bought a big bat. I’m all ready you see. Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me! So be sure when you step, Step with care and great tact. And remember that life’s A Great Balancing Act. And will you succeed? Yes! You will, indeed! (98 and ¾ percent guaranteed) Kid, you’ll move mountains. Then the Grinch thought of something he hadn’t before! What if Christmas, he thought, doesn’t come from a store. What if Christmas…perhaps…means a little bit more! I’m afraid that sometimes you’ll play lonely games too. Games you can’t win ‘cause you’ll play against you.
Remember me and smile, for it’s better to forget than to remember me and cry.
You will be missed
we are rank 3 because of our updated roster
backpack Hiba skovos Thad Acandis. Java
I would say the overall list was quite accurate as of 8/26.
I would actually have said
8/26:
1. Abjured
2. Apex
3. Rough Boyz
4. Good Fights
5. Cognitive Gaming
6. 69 FPS
7. Radioactive
8. Hashtag Believe
9. Sharks with Lazers
10. Blacklisted
11. Evil Villains.Currently as of 10/7 I would say:
1. Abjured.
2. Rough Boyz.
3. Blacklisted.
4. Apex.
5. Good Fights.
6. Cognitive.
etc.
LOL A. We (cognitive) are 4-1 vs Apex
B. I understand that you got yourself all excited because you have been scrimping rough boys, but news flash your games are close the second the boyz left their shelter apex crushed them… I personally don’t understand your delusions of grandeur placing yourself above both apex and cognitive…..
In fact the only reason you qualified is because GF got dqed, and now that your In, you by some act of God think that without playing us or apex you are somehow better? Not that it really matters since abjured will stomp your hype train well before you arrive at our station
Yea apex abjured and rough boys are 3 of the top 4 …. Cognitive the 3rd ranked team is ele ele engi engi war
Update Pot: 100g
Canada included
18+
yea i agree that pull needs to get fixed…
engi is still really good if played well at a high lvl..
ive killed people to falling damage with pull… so its kinda balanced
Made the official post, I’ve been inspired, Mabye just Mabye if I’m nice everyone will be? Idk worth a shot, I ask that oeggs and others don’t try and trash talk me, I willnot respond but to avoid temptation please dont
Starting today at 12CST until October 12th.
No trash talk, BM, or unconstructive criticism
Every time someone catches me il add 100g to a pot for a giveaway (max 2000g)
Help hold me responsible
Together we can
Backpack 2014
Must be 18 and living in the 50 U.S. states to participate in giveaway.
Take a stand with me.
No trash talk !
Starting today until the 12th (tog Finals)!!!
Catch me talking smack and il add 100g to a pot that I will give away on the 12th (max 2000g)
Hold me responsible, Mabye we will see a change
Together we can Backpack 2014
Yea bro engineer is unplayable right now… So hard
I understand for wts that the rules are eighteen and that won’t change. However will there be future events where you can be under eighteen and still compete? I was filling out a college app and under accomplishments I still need one or two more. But in all seriousness is there any possibility? I have seen with various other games players that are sixteen sometimes even fourteen can compete for cash at lan events.
Thanks, backpack
Don’t solo q into team q….
Whenever I team q my friends and I make superpugs. I have about 10-20people to choose from at any given time. I don’t expect many people to have great players as friends, but simply making friends who like to PVP and then creating groups of five will eliminate a lot of your problems. Find nice players around your skill level and ask them to add you so that you can team q sometime. Even before I played with good players, I would always pug into team we with four friends.
Well said, Steb. This is a message that any community, be it online or ‘irl’, can benefit from.
Would have loved to have played y’all in the qualifiers this past weekend, would have been a fun and more even match to stream, watch, and play.
/facepalm “we”
Sad that you are incapable of acting like an adult for even this one, short moment. You, specifically, could take some serious advice from this thread. The NA scene honestly suffers from mentalities such as yours.
Whats wrong with my mentality? I simple use negative reinforcement to motivate others to succeed
I’ve kinda learned after playing in this game for so long that people just don’t give a kitten about what they say in this community because….it is an online game. If you want to stop the BM you have to consider the causes:
1) To make yourself feel better by putting someone else down (this is Freud’s displacement). This is very common in solo que, as blaming another person for throwing a match justifies your own play, and retains your self-esteem.
2) To offer “constructive criticism” in light of a moral belief to strengthen one’s team. This happens very often in a team, and when the criticism turns into insults and BM, it becomes not really constructive but instead destructive.
3) To prove that people are bad when they think that they are good. This is extremely common and probably the most prevalent and important reason at “top-tier” level play. It annoys good players to see “bad” players claim that they are good (or be told that a certain “bad” player is good"), as people innately believe in a “just world” (refer to psychology). Basically, people have this moral illusion that they have a duty to separate the good from the bad by BMing the kitten out of that “bad” person to prove true skill levels and reduce the fog. This, however, is of course not moral as you are just putting down someone just because of your own beliefs, entertainment, and self esteem in the grandiose height of your own skill level. You can’t assume people who are bad actually truly believe that they are good.
4) To get entertainment. People have fun by seeing other people in distress apparently.
5) Entropy. LOL
Extremely well said. For a kitten.
As high tier players, we should hold ourselves to higher standards,
everyone who is at the upper level of competitive play and competes in tournys,
all deserves to be there
, they’ve worked hard,-Steb #1 Downstate NA
/facepalm “we”
hiba went EU cuz no engi there can take him > funny as hell that Hiba is not even in the top 10 engis here in eu ^^
great story enjoyed itFunny how thinking you are the best at your class is negligible when its all subjective anyway. That doesn’t lead to you winning tournies or anything for that matter. Last time I checked hiba ventured into EU later then you and joined a team and brought a 5 dps meta to EU AND won ToL2 with ease, and what have you done recently? So if I were you, stop trying to boost ur ego because no one cares if you think if you are the best at your class with nothing to show for it.
Great story. I enjoyed it but gf.
…. We played 5 DPS first. The best team on EU did not even play. "what have you done recently? " I umm, well slayed u? #ToL2 #Nopractice #Embarrassing #Getgud #Top200Dpsguardafrica
To be fair no one got truly cut because of player skill issues…
Davinci quit the game
Happy kid quit the game
Rat had a bad schedule and couldn’t play
Acandis was truly made fun of to an extent that it was no longer enjoyable or worth dealing with (noscoc would not stop making fun of him for being bad since he was learning a new class)(i also may have partaken in the bullying)
Due to a rather inspiring story by Aeroxe, I have decided to go ahead with the story of Outplayed By Children…. The team started out with a rather interesting roster. Happy Kid, Davinci, and Wakkey needed two more players for the ToL 1. They picked up Noscoc and then shortly after myself. This was the first team that Nos and I had ever been on. Our teamspeak was interesting with Happy Kid, Davinci, and myself, but was manageable to an extent. The team name was also created at this time. I was 16, Noscoc was 17, Happy was 17, and Davinci acted like he was 12. Going into the ToL 1, we were confident fighting every team except Apex.
However, a dark shadow began to loom over a small canadian computer. Davinci, one of the most notable guardians to ever play the game, through yet another tournament after coming out of the PAX disaster. In addition to this, Happy Kid who had been the primary rotation caller decided that the pressure was too much, he quickly threw the games vs KPz. A team we had a 99% win ratio vs in team q. A team that we were fated to lose to… After that horrendous 2-1 loss to KPz, Davinci and Happy Kid quit the game due to player skill issues. However Noscoc, Wakkey and myself liked each other and decided we wanted to continue to play together. At this point we decided that guardians were no longer needed in the celestial meta, and we decided to look for a warrior and a ele. We quickly came upon Rar and Acandis. Rar was an extremely good mechanical warrior who had previously played for team GF. Acandis was a washed up but kind hearted player from the Esports of the past. We decided we had enough time to teach Acandis elementalist and practice despite Rars terrible schedule. At the same time a schedule conflict came up with the ToL 2 Qualifiers… The best player on the team, Backpack, was going to fatcamp for 3 weeks and would miss the qualifier and come back just before the finals. INSTANTLY the team knew what they had to do….. CUT RAR….. We had to let go of Rar for a variety of reasons, but yet again it boils down to a basic player skill issue…. And Acandis being friends with Ostrich, convinced us to pick him up for the ToL 2…. This made the team: Noscoc (should i stand in big water), Wakkey (u already kno), Backpack (are u kittened?), Acandis (how do i dodge roll), and Ostrich (terminal drunk)…..
The team was set, but a sub was still needed for the ToL 2 Qualifier, low and behold after we beat Caed Zoose and Hibas team about 40 times in a row, they dispanded. Hiba fled to Europe to find a sanctuary of no good engis to dominate him, Caed vanished to a magic land, and Zoose… Zoose was the perfect storm…. Asian, and available… So zoose would sub for backpack while he was gone… The plans were set… Backpack would leave, the team would constantly practice while he was gone, then he would return and take the glory he was born to achieve. However fate had something else in mind… When Backpack returned Chaos was in order… Wakkey had gotten bored and stopped playing, Nos had bullied Acandis into quiting, and Ostrich had to get a kidney transplant….. Therefore the team picked up Zoose as a permanent member leaving the team with 4 solid players and ostrich. The team was ready… The schedule was set. The second Zoose gets back from the All-Star event, the team would practice nonstop until the tourney. However, yet again, Fate had something else in mind…. When Zoose got back, no one carried, we had settled on second (LOL they thought apex could win) and we didnt really care what happened. We ended up team quing 3 times as our full roster before the tourney. The next day, we showed up and made history, winning the first ever tournament with a functionally kittened player, a 16 year old, an asian (obv), a halfy, and a bully.
Unfortunately the story cannot end there. In fact in the last week before the ToL 2, the team was so sick of each other, Noscoc and Zoose were already PRACTICING WITH THEIR NEXT TEAM for the ToG…. That team of course changed its roster significantly cuz of drama… but thats not important…
Following the ToL 2. Backpack not 18, had to leave the team so that they could compete for the WTS 50k Series. Zoose also left for his mates ( a very wise decision), and the team carries on…
That is my story, there are no lies, just truth.
I Am Backpack Man
Ive been inspired… It is time my tale be told
Thats rude, please refrain from negative comments on this thread
Thanks! ~ ;D
Due to an overwhelming amount of questions about what I played in and how I did this summer I have decided to list my achievements for the summer!!
~ Inspired by Hatuey
My accolades
MP 2v2 15 – 1st Place
MP 2v2 16- 1st Place
MP 2v2 17- 1st Place
MP 2v2 18- 1st Place
MP 2v2 19- 1st Place
MP 2v2 20- 1st Place
MP 2v2 21- 1st Place
MP 2v2 22- 1st Place
MP 2v2 23- 1st Place
MP 2v2 24- 1st Place
MP 2v2 25- 1st Place
MP 2v2 26- 1st Place
MP 2v2 27- 1st Place
MP 2v2 28- 1st Place
MP 2v2 29- 1st Place
MP 2v2 30 – 1st Place
MP Conquest #5- 1st Place
MP Conquest #6- 1st Place
MP Conquest #7- 1st Place
MP Conquest #8- 1st Place
MP Conquest #9- 1st Place
MP Conquest #10- 1st Place
MP Conquest #11- 1st Place
MP Conquest #12- 1st Place
MP Conquest #13- 1st Place
MP Conquest #14- 1st Place
MP Conquest #15- 1st Place
MP Conquest #16- 1st Place
MP Conquest #17- 1st Place
MP Conquest #18- 1st Place
MP Conquest #19- 1st Place
MP Conquest #20- 1st Place
Tournament of Legends 2 Qualifier-1st Place
Tournament of Legends 2 Finals- 1st Place
DPS 2v2 (450$)- 1st Place
Thanks for all the love!! -Backpack
10/10 would recommend LOLLLLLL
HERE WE GO BOIZ
NA ONLY
Again this is overall gameplay…….. Well rounded players come out on top… I will put a * next to the best dueler on the list
Warrior:
1.Wakkey
2.Rar
3.Tarcis*
4.Hman
Elementalist:
1.Phantaram*
2.Skovex
3.Thadeus
4.Zoose
Necro:
1.Noscoc*
Engineer:
1.Reevz
2.Backpack*
3.Toker
4.Five Gauge
Rangers: (Idk who is better at duels)
1. Vyndetta
2. Tany
Mesmers:
1. Supcutie
2. Kyra*
3. Ender
4. Zeromis
Thief: (Both Caed and Toker are good at duels, they play very differently)
1. Toker*
2. Caed*
3. Muffinz
Guardian:
1. Kaypud*
This hasnt been updated since PAX PRIME, I think that ToL 1, ToL 2 and the AllStars tournament players should all be on this wall!
Playing Fantasy Football has inspired an idea!! As of now il be starting my own Fantasy Guildwars League. Taking the first 10 people to sign up!
How it will work! There are 39 players you can choose from. Your team will consist of 3 players who will be playing actively in a tournament! The first Fantasy League will be created for the ToG Finals (FIRST ROUND ONLY).
How points will work.
It will be a combination of Winning, Scoring, and by how much.
Score- in game score will transfer over exactly (We will see score on stream at end of matches) Example 145.
Winning Will add 50 Points.
And Winning 500-400+ will grant 15 points
500-(300-399)-10 points
500-(200-299)-5points
500-(0-199)-0points
Getting the best score on your team- (25) points
Getting the lowest score on your team- (-25) points
I will keep track of all the scores in an excel sheet.
Of your 3 players, at least one must be on a different team than the other.
Current players you can choose from (This is assuming that Apex, GF, Abjured and Rough Boyz win their qualifiers, this is basically given)
Nnight, Tarcis, Hman, Morfeus, Chuubz, Reevz, Supcutie, Zoose, Kaypud, Muffins
Nos Phantaram, oeggs, Wakkey, Caed, Kensuda, Genyen, Chaith, Toker, Rar, Backpack, Thad, Java, Acandis, Skovos, Darth, Cmc, Aeroxe, Marvin, Kizos, kitten, Thrackit, Gorn, Ferox, Avitori, Bobloblaw, Physics, Karina, Necitor
!!!! To sign up please say below here. I will message you with more info.
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Can you explain how Darth Marvin Kizos CmC, have a higher rating than Backpack Happy Kid, Mime??
Backpack-Won last ToL
Happy Kid- Former member of the team that won ToL 2
those accomplishments alone should place them above these players, who I believe have never played at the top tier.
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can you tell me the roster of evil loves villains??
http://i.imgur.com/kSckQmf.jpg
Kirito, world first, r81
LEGO #HYPE
It’s so interesting that low-rated players still seem to think conditions, particularly necromancers, are so good.
Condi necros are the best 1v1 and 2v2 partners in the game, in teamffights if played correctly and peeled for, they are dominant in team fight
You are all wrong. The best comp is 5 dps…. my team currently runs, celestial engi, dd ele, condi engi, condi necro, warrior hambo…. we dominate APeX in scrims, and Baby Oil kinda dispanded, meaning we are the best team NA. While guardians are good in teamfights, they suck at 1v1 and 2v2 and even 3v3… with 5 dps that can all 1v1 and 2v2 together if we force skirmish fights there is no way we can be beat by a team with a guardian.. this comp is the best currently used… in a perfect world, doubke ele, double warrior, and engi would be best
Backpack, I demand an overall top 50 with NA and EU.
idk EU well, but il try
ALSO, if you did not come in where you thought you would, and would like to improve, I invite you to sign up for our symposium, a few spots left!!!! https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Outplayed-By-Children-Seattle-EVENT/first#post3996250
Where is Hehk?
Hehk came in at rank 76, I did not choose to display past 50.
greatest “thinker”
Ellen Ari
Spirits must have been a mistake, its been fixed
Acandis is tid bit salty that ozie, quilja, necitor and kensuda are clearly superior guards with superior careers in gw2
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1. Denshee-Multiclass, Ele
2. Wakkey-Multiclass
3. Tany-Ranger
4. Davinci-Guardian
5. Noscoc-Necro
6. Hman-Warrior
7. Tarcis-Warrior
8. Reevz-Engineer
9. Happy Kid-Multiclass
10. Supcutie-Mesmer
11. Magic Toker-Thief
12. Lily-Guardian
13. Kay Pud-Multiclass, DPS guard
14. Aeroxe-Thief
15. Kensuda-Guardian
16. Acandis-Guardian
17. Ender-Mesmer
18. Chaith-Engineer
19. Ozie-Guardian
20. Physics-Engineer
21. Rar-Warrior
22. Hiba-Engineer
23. Necitor-Multiclass
24. Quilja-Guardian
25. Nothing-Multiclass
26. Marvin-Thief
27. Zeromis-Mesmer
28. Luci-Thief
29. Jeevo-Engineer
30. Reikou-Thief
31. Ostrich-Engineer
32. Chubbz-Heal blob
33. Casualty-Necro
34. Apt-Warrior
35. Martin-Guardian
36. Kizos-Ranger
37. Nnight-Ranger
38. Flachii-Theif
39. Sublime-Guardian
40. Karina-Mesmer
41. Jose-Warrior
42. Mila Storm-Warrior
43. Groucharoo-Engineer
44. Degoking-Warrior
45. Deku God-Ranger
46. Envy-Warrior
47. Genyen-Ranger
48. Morfeus-Guardian
49. Caed-Thief
50. Olrun-Warrior
These rankings came from a formula that evaluates everything from mechanical skill to rotations to general game knowledge. I myself am not in the list, so that there is no bias what so ever. If you are not pleased with your rank, or arent even top 50, IMPROVE , this lost is subject to change.
EDIT: Formulas
AF=min{100+4Ns+2Nr+Nk,150)
Ea=(1)/[1+{10^(Rb-Ra)/400}]
R^1a=Ra+K(Sa-Ea)
Rating Change = K-factor * ( Result – Expected Result )
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