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I’d make the accusation of the OP being a WoW transplant, but then he’d know weekly raid rewards are a common thing.
/shrug
I do not care that the good rewards are weekly. Honestly that’s a good thing. It’s the fact that for your weekly roll, you may full well be rewarded with absolutely NOTHING other than some generic rares. You should not be able to get the same rewards doing a World Timer train as the “hardest content in the game”
You read the part about the Magnetite shards?
“This currency is not intended as a primary way to obtain the boss rewards, but it is intended to provide a means for people unlucky with drops to be able to work toward getting a specific reward that they desire.”
It shouldn’t even have to be that way though. The fact that the felt the NEED to add a grind-path to their new challenging “rewarding” content is idiotic. I’d understand if there was a drop slot that said “You will get <item> from this boss table” and then they provided a means to swap out those items via a merchant, but a way that says “Hey you never get good stuff out of your weekly; just go do it twenty more times to make up for that”? Come on.
I’ve reserved a lot of my griping about various topics with the expansion, waiting for them to be patched up. I’ve glazed over a lot more waiting to see the crowning event of the expansion, and today we got the info on it: Raids.
And you somehow managed to kitten it up. You managed to screw the pooch so bad that it’s locked itself in the bathroom with a tub of Vaseline.
I don’t care that you lied about gold rewards being re-distributed into raids
I don’t care that you made Ascended Chests a thing of the past
I don’t care that you ruined any reason to do Dungeons
I don’t care that you and that absolute kitten John Smith are doing everything you can to kick the economy in the nuts and grab for the Gemsales
But RNG on WEEKLY REWARDS for your hardest content? RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR LUCK on rewards unique to a boss that you can only RANDOMLY ROLL ON once a WEEK?
I don’t understand Anet, what’s your fetish? Once a week we get some rares, an exo or two, and then a RNG CHANCE at what we even came there for? What is this? Are you for real?
Stop. Please. Just stop. It’s getting very very kitten tiresome to have literally every single piece of content contain some sort of stupid RNG wall, and this is the highest one yet. RNG chance for what we came for, once a week? This is just beyond rude at this point.
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[Spoil]PSL is 10/10, would get grief'd again!
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10/10. Real blast to play.
Is chill not supposed to stack to 5? Is that actually working for anyone right now?
People screaming to the mighty hilltops about “Opportunity Cost” are, presumably, also the same people who think Flipping doesnt remove gold from the economy.
Quoting the “Opportunity Cost” at 3,000 gold, the hyper-inflated OMFG I HAVE TO HAVE THIS ITEM NOW rate is the same thing as complaining about the gold wall itself. That price is going to be nowhere even vaguely the same as that. If you had the supplies RIGHT NOW to make the item, THEN you would face the idea of a 3K gold “Opportunity Cost.”
By the time these materials are gathered naturally, that price will be much lower. At ANY point, the idea of an opportunity cost means you don’t actually want the item. Plain and simple. This argument strikes me as being bitter about not being able to cash in on the hype frenzy going on right now.
Concerning Lodestones: That’s exactly how I made Twilight, Sunrise, and Infinite Light. So yes, I do think its a pretty simple and straightforward thing to get cores and lodestones from open world content and dungeons. If you don’t want to do it that way, farm gold and buy them; but don’t complain about a gold wall. Nobody is making you buy a single core.
As far as Brews go: I have been an active user of the TP for years now, and there are some rules on it. The biggest of these is that there are more of them out there than you can see right now. There are people who don’t even realize they have it. There are people who are afraid of the undercutting war going on right now. There are people who bought it JUST for this item, but will later decide not to make it. And yes, despite the drop rate being what it is, there are those who are yet to receive one as a random drop.
As these things occur: people deciding not to make the item, people no longer fearing being undercut instantly, people getting new ones; they will either be posted lower than the current market price – sometimes substantially at the aim of a quick sale – or simply sold off to the highest buy order. Over time, the price will drop naturally from this. There are very, VERY few exceptions to this pattern in the game. The only reliable way this would not occur is in the case of open manipulation, where one or two individuals buys them ALL and artificially inflates them.
@Numri; we have known Batwing was required for Nightfury for over a week, and the price inflated at this discovery to settle in the 70-100 gold range. Right now they have spiked about 400%, much like Linseed Oil has. Because they are not as easily got as Linseed Oil, their price will take some time to drop down comparatively, but before too long all the people who MUST HAVE NIGHTFURY RIGHT THIS SECOND will have bought theirs, and the price will normalize again. Probably a bit higher than your average endless tonic, which would put them in the 90-120 gold range. There is no shortage of ToT Bags in the world, which means there will be no shortage of new tonics being added to the economy.
Nightfury; Blessed Shoulderguard of the Swagseeker. It doesn’t cost 3,000 gold. It doesnt even cost 500 gold. They said you’d have to work for it, and they’re right. There’s a LOT of complaining on these forums that the ONLY way to gt this item is behind a massive gold wall, which is just nonsense. You can get every single item required to make this item on your own, without ever touching the Trading Post. Some of you just don’t want to, so you blame Arena Net for doing exactly what they said they were going to do: Make a very cool item that requires a lot of work to get for those who want it. If that level of work makes you not want it; dont get it!
Linseed Oil refines from Flax. You can get, pretty easily, 100 flax a day within about 5 minutes, much more if you actively run around and gather it instead of just porting to farms. That’s 5 linseed a day, for zero effort and zero gold. Is that a long farm? Yup! Did they say it would be? Yup! It’s almost as if the price of materials on the trading post are driven by direct supply and demand of items or something; pretty wild concept, right?
Endless Batwing Brew is the ONLY item hidden behind pure RNG, and even the price of those will drop before long.
Tattered bat wings are easily obtainable by running the Mad Thorn dungeon.
Glacial Lodestones drop in several dungeons, from many mobs, and the Cores drop from many more mobs around the world.
Onyx Lodestones are the same as above. Run Twilight Arbor, seriously.
Pristine Spore Samples are, much like Linseed oil, entirely farmable on a daily basis.
The Gift of Ascalon is – you already know it – a dungeon reward for tokens.
Glass is obtainable by doing Silverwaste trains, like half the game already does. Get silky sand, get course sand, go make glass.
Mystic Coins are timegated – you will get all 250 entirely free over time
I have never heard of someone saying they had too little Bloodstone Dust
Powerful Blood is farmable from high level mobs, and can be promoted to using t5 bloods
Orichalicum has been farmable for ages; anyone who has ever had to make the Gift of Metal can tell you that Ori running through Orr is quite a thing.
Which brings us to the leather; I don’t actually know a good, solid way of reliably farming leather of that level, but its also never been expensive. The good money is that, by the time you actually need this, the rest of these activities have gotten you more than enough gold as a side-effect to buy a stack of leather.
Congrats, you have now obtained the skin Nightfury for the low low costs of… playing the game. It’s probably June, right about now, but you did it! Enjoy being one of the few people in the game to put the effort into what can be considered the first legendary shoulder item in the game.
So I don’t think the people blaming Flippers have ever sold anything on the TP. EVERY TIME something is sold on the TP, A-Net takes 15% of what it sells for. If someone sells for 100 gold, 15 gold is removed from the game. Gone to the mists. Vanished, forever.
Is there any chance these will be coming back, maybe at the end of the halloween event? I’ve seen repeated requests for the older gem store skins to be brought back over and over again, and with the recent tendency to re-release very very inflated older skins, the original halloween skins are well due for at least another lottery – they’re getting to the point that pre-crafted Legendaries are cheaper than they are.
who thinks the game is called Guild Warriors 2?
I came here more or less expecting the sub-forum of my main to be a lot of champagne toasting and hon-hon-hon-ing over being the best all-round class in the game. The Devs play us, we can do kitten near everything, and whatever we decide to do we actually do it quite well. Our DPS is insane, our survivability can be just as insane, we can single-handedly give an entire party over 900 extra power ALL THE TIME (Meaning war in the group = 4500 bonus power!). Like, we’re pretty ****ing sweet, guys.
We’re the unsung heroes of PvE modes everywhere, with out absurd personal DPS, self-healing and sustain, CC, and condi stripping, not to mention making an OBVIOUS impact on party DPS with that oh-so-lovely might stacking.
We party hard and roflstomp wirey little punks in PVP who think their silly 1v1 or 2v1 DPS is a match for our unending tide of condi clear and boonspam.
We are the indestructible flame-spewing, knockdown-kitten, combo-generating, flag-planting doombots of WvW Zergs, and the ultimate pain in the face roamers.
So I come here to join the hon-hon and drinking party, only to find a ton of people saying we are being left behind! Imagine my surprise! Who cares about Zerker? We’re already better than most of those other classes’ elite specs! Their shiny new toys are just so they can keep up! Stay classy my friends, and keep an eye out for me in Guild Warriors 2: Warrior of Thorns.
I rarely post here on the forums, but this topic managed to blow my mind to the point that I figured I would weigh in.
To start, I am a TP Flipper. I spend, usually, 20-30 minutes a day updating, ordering, collecting, and listing. I make a decent influx of money doing this; that influx can not be measured day by day, as some days are slow and some days are good, but week over week and month over month it is very safe to say that I do indeed profit from it, and not lightly.
That being said, I am not buying random items and re-selling them. There is very much a method to the madness, and there are very much lines you can start to see if you know when and where and how to look for them. TP Flipping is not a skill-less art if you are going to make money doing it. There are guides that serve very well as jumping off points, and there are tools that make a lot of the guesswork a bit easier, and ultimately it IS something that anyone can do, assuming they want to put the time and effort in. It is also something that has no lower bar – you can start with 5 gold, you can start with 50 gold, you can start with 5000 gold – you’ll likely make the same profit % Wise no matter what.
Now that that’s taken care of, let me get to what has been slapped up in this post, most of which is either ignorance, anger because the posters themselves don’t know what goes into flipping or how to do it, or both.
The idea that Flipping isn’t a basic part of the game and isn’t “Really playing”:
The BLTP is a global open-door marketplace with direct correlation between what people get as drops out in the world and which of those drops people want to buy. It, as you know, allows you to auto-buy or auto-sell to other peoples’ listed values. It is, for many points and purposes, the in-game stock market. I buy stock in Honed Soft Wood Inscriptions at X, and offer them to anyone that wants them for Y. This is basic economics, fueled by the drop tables of the game’s open world and the demand that players on a global scale have for particular items for a varying number of reasons – those reasons aren’t important, the fact that SOMEONE wants an item is. The POINT is this: it’s part of the game. It’s a very well programmed and cleverly designed part of the game and, if i’m honest, it may be one of the MOST cleverly designed parts of the game. I’ll get to that in a bit, but ultimately just because you don’t personally enjoy an aspect of the game and choose not to partake in it does not mean it isn’t playing. I’m not too big on WvWvW, so I don’t play it. I don’t think all those Golden Commanders out there aren’t playing the game, or that they’re playing it wrong, they’re just doing their thing.
The idea that Flippers are somehow unhealthy:
Everyone who posts a sell order has to pay 5% of the listed value up front, and then another 10% of the total once it sells. Assuming a best case scenario that a TP Flipper does not post their item more than once and it sells, they have paid 15% of that item’s value. For ease of example, say we sell something for 100G and someone buys it. I as a flipper do not get 100G. I get 85G. The other 15? GONE! gone to the winds! Sent to the Mists! Confiscated by Aetherpirates! Straight into Gnashblade’s Coffers! Nobody gets it, it’s just a flat 15% tax that simply ceases to exist and keeps the collective gold pool in check. Not assuming a best-case, or perhaps an over-eager Flipper trying to bail on a certain item? Say one that reposts their item two, three, four times in order to avoid being undercut? 5%, 5%, 5%, over and over again until it sells, and then 10%. Flippers do not control the game’s economy, quite the opposite. They are probably the largest and most substantial partakers in the game’s best and most ingenious gold sink (hence why the TP is likely one of the most cleverly made parts of the game). And remember: flipper are fiercely competitive. They constantly undercut each other, and if anything serve to keep prices relatively controlled in a way that is beneficial for everyone buying things from the TP.
“MY SOLUTION:
Every item should become account bound once you purchase them, lets kill trade post flipping and fix the economy and with that GAMING EXPERIENCE!!!”
Congratulations, Charged Lodestones are now 25 gold each, if not more. The runes of strength on my old armor that I’ve now salvaged in order to try a new build? Certainly not going into the marketplace again, to be bought by someone else. Let’s not even get into what you’ve just done to the value of Black Lion Skins; I hope you enjoy plopping money down for gems if you want one, because now that’s the only way to get them past the FIRST sell, which I promise is going to be for a substantial amount more than it is presently.
“If item was sold at least 1x, listing fee would be 66% if you try to resell it.
This solution is better because those that would try to resell items would lost a lot of gold, and TP flipping would not be viable any more, but those who want to buy and give to friends/guildies/randoms can still do that.”
Please see above. You have not actually fixed the economy, you have just let everyone know that things need to cost more. I really hope you enjoy fractals, or running around with a shovel, because things just got silly.
“Post your opinion how to stop this game breaking feature!”
http://www.tentonhammer.com/guides/guild-wars-2/guild-wars-2-how-make-money
You could, alternatively, stop being ignorant and/or kitten about the concept of flipping, and learn how to do it yourself. If you don’t enjoy it, that’s one thing; don’t do it. If you’re angry about it because you feel it is unfair, learn about it enough to realize it only works because of the mostly free-market system of economics that GW2 operates on in game. If, for some reason, you think that Flippers ‘ruin the economy’ and ‘control the market’, then please realize that Flipping and Manipulation are two very very VERY different things.
Flipping is buying low and selling high, as many or as few items as the flipper feel they can safely swap for a profit in a given timespan. This is healthy behavior that stimulates the economy and makes use of features in the game exactly how it is safe to assume they were always intended to be used. This is not going to alter the price of items except to drive the gap between Auto-Buy and Auto-Sell to be smaller. Which, again, is a good thing for everyone (Except flippers, ironically.)
Manipulation is done by (but is done) a very VERY small number of people, all of whom have much much more gold on their account than I do. Manipulation is what happened to Precursors; someone bought literally all of them and decided what they would be worth from there on out. Manipulation, as a rule, can only happen to rare items that are somewhat hard to get. You can’t do it with things like Iron Ore: The world generates too much of it on its own, and the price will regulate itself back down in a hurry. Precursors are already amazingly rare; nobody is going to come along with enough of them to crash the party or the price. It’s also what has happened with some Black Lion Chest Skins and Dyes; someone – and I do mean an individual – buys 100% of that item and then decides, on a whim, what that item now costs. THIS IS NOT FLIPPING.
tl;dr I don’t think you really know what flipping is, I am pretty sure you do not know how to do it or what it involves to be successful, and beyond that I am fairly certain you lack a certain baseline of knowledge for how the economy of the game works as a whole. Please educate yourself and try again, because you are hating on the wrong people.
With A-Net’s recent tendency to make items which have become rather unobtainable (Thousands of gold) is there any chance we will be seeing a re-release of the year 1 halloween skins from 2012? http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Halloween_skins
Looking at them, you can choose between them or a Legendary in one go…
Hello,
I cannot find anywhere that says the drops from the Black Lions Chests has changed, but the splash art for them is back up and depicting Halloween skins. Are they dropping right now or is A-Net just misleading people?
Why is this displayed by number of files remaining and not by amount of data remaining? It doesnt actually inform you how much you have left to do or how long it may take. 99% with 1 file remaining, if that file happens to be 50-60MB, is not really 99%. GW2 is literally the only game which I have seen display this way, and it is very confusing to me why it is done this way.
are these confirmed to be armor? If so I care. If they’re yet another town clothes option… meh.
If Anet would just let us wear town clothes into PvE, they’d have much more of my money.
Or maybe you dont need to feel entitled to complete it this year? In GW1 there were some holiday titles (so like achievements) which were IMPOSSIBLE to complete in one year even if you would play 24 hours while the event was live. I was fine with that. And so I am fine with what they offer now. If you cant grind it now, you can return next year and finish the job. Its not like this thing will be gone forever.
If you have a source on that, I’d be fine with it. But don’t just assume things and call other people entitled who assume otherwise.
Played GW1 for eight years.
Fact: Some Holiday titles took a minimum of 3 years to complete unless you played 12+ hour days, simply factored by respawn times
Observation: GW2 players are deeply entitled and want everything for either no effort or no risk.
Games should evolve, failing to do so in this day & age is suicide
Evolving into Achievement Unlocked is not a positive evolution http://armorgames.com/play/2893/
Or maybe you dont need to feel entitled to complete it this year? In GW1 there were some holiday titles (so like achievements) which were IMPOSSIBLE to complete in one year even if you would play 24 hours while the event was live. I was fine with that. And so I am fine with what they offer now. If you cant grind it now, you can return next year and finish the job. Its not like this thing will be gone forever.
If you have a source on that, I’d be fine with it. But don’t just assume things and call other people entitled who assume otherwise.
Played GW1 for eight years.
Fact: Some Holiday titles took a minimum of 3 years to complete unless you played 12+ hour days, simply factored by respawn times
Observation: GW2 players are deeply entitled and want everything for either no effort or no risk.
Are RNG. The drop rates are low for those tickets you want, even though they ARE higher than a normal coffer. Buying 25 and expecting 2-3 tickets is completely unreasonable in every possible way. Remember Fused weapons? I got 2 tickets out of 100 BLC.
Point Here: If you don’t want to gamble with your real money; dont. Go get normal ones and deal with the lower chest. A-NET didnt LIE to you, they havn’t DECEIVED you somehow. They informed you that there is a RARE item in them with a LOW chance of dropping that you happen to want, and that you can buy these items with gems. Don’t rage-face at the casino when you don’t hit the jackpot.
I will be buying some. I may or may not get a ticket. I WILL get some candy, and probably some fireworks. I DONT pay $15+ a month to play this game, so I’m fine with that.
Totally regular skin in all respects, all rules that apply to skins other than these apply here as well. Treated exactly as they are.
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