Guild Wars 2

After this patch my character has been stuck 3 times and is unable to move. All 3 times I was ressing my friends and got stuck in that position. Twice there was no enemy nearby (I had no movement restriction debuff), I waited like 2 mins but still could not use movement keys (no I was not typing in chat box), had to teleport to Overlook to get moving again. 3rd time i was in combat, got stuck and as a result died. I hope this gets fixed soon, never happened before.
Plus youtube is now filled with invisible battle videos of GW2 WvWvW, I hope Anet fixes it soon as no one wants to die to an invisible zerg.

inb4 somone who plays Theif will come here and tell you to “learn to play”. I found your post quite hillarious, as someone who played Elementalist since day 1 of pre-purchase launch I see some truth in the message you are giving.

Just to give people a prespective, here is the official description of Elementalist:
“Elementalists are multi-faceted spellcasters that channel elemental forces, making fire, air, earth, and water do their bidding. What they lack in physical toughness, they make up in versatility and the ability to inflict massive damage in a single attack.”

Yes I see it, can a mod then delete this thread so all our replies are on 1 single thread.

Elementalist:

Glyph of Renewal: This skill will now revive downed allies only, not dead ones.
Signets of Earth, Fire, and Water: These signest have been updated to not fire at targets behind the player.
Signet of Fire: This skill is now able to hit targets at its indicated range.
Signet of Air: This skill now displays a hovering signet effect over the user when activated.
Whirlpool: This skill’s damage has been decreased by 33%.

Taken from https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/news/Update-Notes-October-7th-2012

Elusive.9162:

OK so its been like what 3 week?
You are telling us that you are upset because you can not have the best of the best items in 3 weeks?
In an MMO?
Seriously?

It was marketed as being different than other MMOs in exactly that sense.

Edit: They should at least provide a non-grind gear path to a full set of exotics with good stats for an arbitrary profession and build. This is lacking.

Yes it was indeed marketed as being different from traditional grind based mmos, that was one of the main reasons I spent my money on this game. And it seems they did spent big bucks on the marketing side of GW2. If you saw the manifesto, is was pretty impressive.

Stratto.3869:

Alice.8694:

Stratto.3869:

Relentless.5678:

I like to think long-term. I have long-term goals for what I want to accomplish in-game. Sort of a nebulous ever-changing miasma of adventure and kitten-kickery. (I just made up a new word!) It is important to look good and feel good. It is real real nice to have 1000 gold (I can only guess). I plan on getting to that point, but I also plan on that taking a long time. If those goals were able to be accomplished in weeks or days I wouldn’t count them in my long-term goals list. I’d be angry in fact because my list just got shorter.
Going on most of the comments from people in the “pro-grinding” camp; I can only take home the fact that some people want their time to be worth more than mine.

What if I told you those goals are now impossible without buying Gems? what will you do?

I’d tell you you’re talking kittenkittens… And suggest you actually try to demonstrate this with data before making absurd assertions that clearly aren’t true.

Alice, I’m realy tired of you trying so hard to discredit me. You obviously haven’t reached lvl 80 or haven’t been 80 long enough to even know about half the stuff I’m talking about. I used to get 26 silver a Run on COF, EVERY 80 and their MOTHER knows how much you got at the end of that dungeon. They just changed that to 2, It takes me twice that to get from Orr to FH. You maybe get downed like twice in COF, it happens, the repair is about 4-6 silver, or if you are downed alot in just a bad run up to 11 Silver, I don’t have a screenie with me so you will have to use your little imagination, OR ask ANYONE WHOS DONE IT. So now, yet again they destroyed our source of revenue. What do we do now… OH HEY LOOK GEMS! Are you dense? Or just ignorant?

It seems it is in the interest of some people to get this thread locked by increasing the kitten kitten trolling here. First they make personal attacks and false accusations, now they demand 100 Excel Spreadsheets.

Alice.8694:

Stratto.3869:

Alice.8694:

Personally I’d like the Op to show me the part where they claimed vanity prestige gear wouldn’t be a grind.

They definitely claimed high end stats would be easy to achieve. But they also claimed that prestige items would be very hard to obtain.

Alot of this comes across as mindless rabble rousing.

Faction gear was only obtainable at lvl 80, and it’s level of Rarity is “Rare” (yellow) not even the stats I really wanted either. And now high end stats are much harder to achieve, prestige items are the dungeon reward sets, NOT the faction items. Looks like you are the only on that is mindless.

Nothing you said has anything to do with what I asked you to prove.
Which you cannot, because they didn’t ever claim vanity/prestige wouldn’t be hard to achieve. (or in your words, a grind.)
Instead you babble on about the price of another prestige set. Prestige just means hard to obtain and worth showing off and surprisingly a large sum of money comes under that category. It doesn’t get changed just because it’s something you think should be something that is easier to obtain.

Over sensationalism because you’re butthurt about having the repetitive CoF abuse to get easy prestige armor fixed. Yes, fixed… Not nerfed because it wasn’t intended for you to do it in the first place.

The amusing thing is, because you all abused that bug… CoF armor is now the least desirable. Because it is now the most common, and who wants to look like a bunch of scrubs abusing an exploit?

The amusing this is you assumed we all abused the bug. Please don’t make such accusations without any proof. Personal attacks are not welcome, they will only get the thread locked. If you have anything valuable to add then please do so, but don’t attack other players.

Naminator.9316:

OK so its been like what 3 week?

You are telling us that you are upset because you can not have the best of the best items in 3 weeks?

In an MMO?

Seriously?

I’m lvl 61 right now…..

I stopped reading after that, if you are having fun I hope you continue to have it after you hit 80 as well. I just posted my opinion, what you like may be different from what I like, no point in arguing with fellow players. This post is more towards Arena Net and we would like to hear what they have to say on this after the way Guild Wars 2 was marketed to us.

Stratto.3869:

And now the title is changed?

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Well Mr. Mod he speaks for me, and I would like to hear what Arena Net says about this topic. I don’t want to play another grindfest mmorpg. I have already played too many of them, biggest waste of time and money in my opinion. You have my support Stratto, don’t feel disheartened by this “title change”.

Cerise.9045:

Remember when ArenaNet promised that getting gear with max-stats would be trivial and require no grind when hitting level 80?

They said it was only special prestige skins that would require a lot of effort to obtain.

So where’s the easy to obtain max stat gear? Every way to get money/crafting materials for the crafted exotics is branded an exploit and patched out of the game. And the crafted gear only covers maybe 10% of the possible stat combinations, for many people this gear is not max-stats because some of the stats are just useless to them, meaning even more of a grind for these people to get max-stat gear.

Why does ArenaNet want people to grind just to be on an even stat level as everyone else? Is this WoW or Guild Wars?

Games like Perfect World introduced Grinding and farming so that people would buy their currency with real life money ($), and then sell that game currency for items which are acquired through farming (dungeons and stuff) and also on items which will make the grinding a lot faster (getting a higher % of XP per kill for a specific time).
I find it funny when some people say they like to grind/farm a lot because it gives them something to do. I mean who is forcing you to sit on your computer all day and grind/farm. There are much more productive things you can do with your time which will help you in real life.

So grinding and farming became massive money making characteristics for Perfect World, and the fun thing is they promoted their mmorpg as Free to Play (more like Pay to Compete lol). No matter what a mmorpg company tells you, they are in business to make money and by seeing current mmorpg market, a LOTS of money.

Now I have not played Guild Wars 2 long enough to see if what Perfect World did applies to them too, all we can do it wait and see.

Stratto.3869:

Auroma.9126:

In my opinion just enjoy your journey from 1 to 80 (one time only). Once you 80, all the suger coated grind becomes too obvious and Guild War 2 becomes just another mmorpg. GW2 was fun till I hit 80, now its:

*Either do X runs of dungeon Y to get gear Z (been there done that).
*Farm world boss X who spawns every Y hrs (been there done that).
*Farm dynamic event X, if will get a spilt second to land your hit before the mobs die to bots and other 99999 players (not exactly 9999, but A LOT!) (been there done that).
*Die 9999 times in personal story if you are a class with weak defence (even if you go all defence build, you will kill mobs too slowly and get hit more, in some areas you cannot kite). Doing personal story is a sure way to remain broke for casual players who don’t farm coin a lot. (This is an innovative new feature)
*Complete map X or do jumping puzzle Y again.

• Fight other servers in WvWvW or do sPvP (been there done that – on a different scale)
  *Report bots and gold sellers (been there done that).
  *Grind some Karma, think to buy the overpriced karma gear and then postpone the decision while you go back to grinding some more karma. (been there done that)
  etc etc…..

I would like to state again that the above is my personal opinion and yours may be different. I did not make this post to argue with anyone, just stating how I feel now that the honeymoon fantasy phase is over and I see things as they are. But would add that I feel Guild Wars 2 was worth the $59.99 I spent on it, as it kept me entertained for a few weeks.

But the question should be asked…. Is it OK to drastically change the parameters of the product you spent 60 bucks on? The answer is… It’s not. If you buy a movie after seeing it in theaters, and find out they changed the story from a Intellectual to a Die Hard-esk film are you going to just sit and try to enjoy the new movie that was once good enough for you to buy? That’s not OK, and you would take the movie back and demand a refund, or that’s what a person who valued their hard earned money would do.

I agree, the “no traditional mmo grind” marketing slogan was what got me interested in Guild Wars 2 and one of the main causes I spent my money on this game.

In my opinion just enjoy your journey from 1 to 80 (one time only). Once you 80, all the suger coated grind becomes too obvious and Guild War 2 becomes just another mmorpg. GW2 was fun till I hit 80, now its:

*Either do X runs of dungeon Y to get gear Z (been there done that).
*Farm world boss X who spawns every Y hrs (been there done that).
*Farm dynamic event X, if will get a spilt second to land your hit before the mobs die to bots and other 99999 players (not exactly 9999, but A LOT!) (been there done that).
*Die 9999 times in personal story if you are a class with weak defence (even if you go all defence build, you will kill mobs too slowly and get hit more, in some areas you cannot kite). Doing personal story is a sure way to remain broke for casual players who don’t farm coin a lot. (This is an innovative new feature)
*Complete map X or do jumping puzzle Y again.

• Fight other servers in WvWvW or do sPvP (been there done that – on a different scale)
  *Report bots and gold sellers (been there done that).
  *Grind some Karma, think to buy the overpriced karma gear and then postpone the decision while you go back to grinding some more karma. (been there done that)
  etc etc…..

I would like to state again that the above is my personal opinion and yours may be different. I did not make this post to argue with anyone, just stating how I feel now that the honeymoon fantasy phase is over and I see things as they are. But would add that I feel Guild Wars 2 was worth the $59.99 I spent on it, as it kept me entertained for a few weeks.

Hi,
I have a suggestion for free server transfers. Can Arena Net make it such that free server transfers apply only to servers with low-medium WvWvW ranking. Currently what is happening is that a lot of players from low-medium ranked WvWvW servers are jumping to the top ranked servers, making the low-medium ranked servers even weaker in WvWvW. This also makes the Queue times in top ranked servers in the range of 3-4hrs+, ruining everyones’s experience. So rather than server population stabalising, there are noticable changes after each WvWvW round.
Thanks