Guild Wars 2

Jinks.2057:

Brindled.2179:

ebay is too scared to go after cd. their behavior is pathetic.

HA

Fail Troll is Fail

Let’s try that one again

no troll… the ebay group at godsword last night could teach you something about trolling, though. that group could’ve been gaining more ppt than they were last night instead of camping one single supply camp of BP. instead, they made kitten of themselves camping (treb, ballis, ac’s) and spamming emotes while staying in our northern camp, which in the end was the last camp they took for a while until cd started on us again.

some of your players, ebay, have little honor and misplaced pride. i understand it’s probably a small percentage, but a few bad apples spoil the bunch.

ebay is too scared to go after cd. their behavior is pathetic.

HA

Could anyone please post if theirs is open?

I saw someone from our server (BP) using a speed hack. I’ve never seen someone get supplies from vale as fast as he did 5 seconds tops. We were both building a ram at briar and we both started off for supps cause we didn’t have enough, but after seeing this guardian skip 4 times to vale when I had just gotten clear of the briar’s first corner it was obvious.

I also believe all servers have cheaters. It’s a sad world we live in where people won’t obtain things the honest way.

I didn’t report the person because I didn’t have conclusive evidence, but a screenshot with his name while we worked on briar’s door.

I am liking this match-up as well. And, one thing to mention; many times I’ve been rolled over by a group of Yaks or DH and get nothing but respect from you guys…. I’ve gotten more bows from you guys in the last 2 days than all the sbi/ebay encounters in one week. Not a single player has laughed after a confrontation, and that’s great sportsmanship. I’ve seen a few of our guys laugh, however, I have no control over some of our brats.

Keep up the good fights!

The glitching through doors is indeed by accident and random, so no one could count on it happening to them with intent to use it to their advantage.

I had 2 guildies accidentally go through once, and they tried to get out of the tower. however, they were being attacked so they fought back, and we busted through the gate taking the tower anyway. It was totally random, they didn’t try to do it on purpose, and it happened months before this matchup.

On the subject of matchups, I’m glad our server (BP) has been humbled a bit. This has made for some good fights, and mostly constant action in our BL where I stay most of the time I have to play these days.

Keep up the good fights and good luck to all!

Thanks, Fate, for the fun in SI’s BL… just hangin’ out.

anzenketh.3759:

Rdrodriguez.3204:

We wiped and yes, we got wiped.

See that is exactly what I don’t get about the chest thumping forum warriors. They are quick to say ha ha we wiped. But they fail to mention that they also got wiped.

I’m guessing you’re referring to the others before this person?
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Any bragging that occurs is hot air. The bottom line is numbers make all the difference in this game. One person can’t do it all. There’s no way to prove what server has the most skilled players, and even if you could all that would do is prove my point. If the WvW populations were even scores would be closer.

I find it intriguing the boasting occurring for any given server. It’s a server. It’s not a real locale. You’re just playing your characters on hosting hardware with some made-up name.

Any insults flying should be taken with a grain salt. The insult is emanating from a(n) source of insecurity/ego.

Just be sure to know that most of us on BP are the same as most of you on alternate servers. We’re just here playing a game trying to have fun while doing that.

/capt.obvious

I roam with my necro and main. They do tend to be less successful at it, but they are so much more gratifying to use effectively than the most played classes. When I get killed by those classes I just use it as a learning experience and try harder the next time.

After making all 8 classes (many I leveled in wvw), I went back to my necro which was the first class I used. I thought I wouldn’t have as much fun, but I was wrong. I guess it depends on what class feels right.

As to where they are, I guess people do want the easy kills and/or survivability. Necros tend to be harder to master than many of the other classes, but once you do they can be a lot of fun.

I wonder how many servers have a Monkey on their back like we do?

i dont give a kitten if you guys get tired of hearing that numbers play a role in your winning. the truth hurts.

but now, you guys are resorting to placing people in our server to use up supplies on BS upgrades to keeps. pretty obvious when everyone sees it happen at key moments.

keep up the honorable fight. you’ll need those tactics in the next tier…. if you ever get there.

i guess just before the adjustments to glicko you needed to show some superiority, but throwing massive amounts of bodies at something and cheating is all you can do.

From my experiences it seems like the other way around. I tend to get more the longer I play.

you know what i find ironic? last night i had a CoF guy whine to me in whisper about 7 of us chasing 3 of them like it was unfair or something. yet, most nights we’re up against worse odds. tis funny, but a lil hypocritical at the same time.

anyway, just an observation.

Kalkz.5297:

God i hate trebbing i never sat on a treb for more than 10 mins
actually feel sorry for all those trebbers who sit on trebs for hours, especially those ebay trebbers in eternal, once upon a time there was a kalkz in eternal around 1pm server time i saw an FTF guy sitting on a treb trebbing our fortified DG tower, i went off for 4 hours, came back to see a BP zerg Running supply to repair DG, i asked whats going on and a guy said “they have been trebbing DG for a good couple hours and I’ve been fixing the wall alone most of the time by running supply from camp”
I went to counter treb the treb and i SAW THE SAME FTF GUY. HE HAS BEEN TREBBING DG FOR 4 kittenING HOURS

I really didnt know how to react. what is he going to do if we took out his lovely treb, is he going to build a new one and keep trebbin for another 4 hours ? To make this guy rest in peace i gave up on the tower, i respected his efforts, however. I took the tower back and full upgraded it in 1 hour. Lol

that’s possibly someone with more than 1 computer, and they’re just sitting there trebbing while running their main character manually. i’ve read that some even have macros to do their trebbing (not alleging that this person is doing that).

Brindled.2179:

…with eventual stacking due to defections things become even more imbalanced. ebay may not see its potential yet from its new defectors, but it’s a matter of time…

i guess you guys are ready for the next step, huh?

Faux Sheaux.6179:

Recent transfers have barely made a dent in our WvW so far. The people taking your stuff at night and holding it at night are a recently revitalized night crew made up of many longtime players who are finally on a single roster. Can thank a Sekz member for that pet project and our centralized TS for making late-night coordination so possible

You guys have a good thing in your BP TS. Why more people don’t utilize it is beyond me.

coordination is definitely the key to rising above uncoordinated attacks. many people on all the servers are already apart of guilds and use those respective guild vents or ts. sadly, the game is called guild wars and not server wars. there really needs to be a better system for squad control similar to games like the battlefield franchise, or maybe even have controls for guilds (considering the game’s name), which would increase the incentive to joining one. of course, that would help the effectiveness of the higher populated servers as much as the lower, thereby in the end not changing much.

many times i don’t know exactly what to do next. i’ve only been steadily running wvw now for about a month after completing all classes, but one thing is sure; a commander that’s effective can pull more numbers for getting things done.

i think joining any particular server is just luck of the draw, but with eventual stacking due to defections things become even more imbalanced. ebay may not see its potential yet from its new defectors, but it’s a matter of time until they know who to run with. then, you’re newcomers, that aren’t new to the game, but are wvw vets so to speak, will improve gains.

ParaldaWind.4523:

The ranking and point system is mostly a measure of population.

population is the most important thing to take away from all these arguments.

as i’ve said in other threads, the law of averages plays a role in the experienced:inexperienced ratio. out of 100 players you might have 10 to 15 highly skilled players. out of 10 players you might have 1 or 2 skilled players. people that do not understand this are destined to feel that their server is the best.

however, if there ever was an auto-balance feature that put equal amounts of people between the 4 maps for any given server matchup, the scores would be a lot more even than they are. i’m not saying that the scores would be exactly even, but the gaps seen would be much smaller than they currently are.

KStudios.2850:

That is an awesome potential three-way brawl you’re standing in the wake of. My question, so why you still standing there? Hope you went and got some kitten, and probably ate a little too. >=P

that is a good question. it should have been a 3-way brawl, but from the pic you can see ebay and ar weren’t fighting each other. purposely done or not, the proof is there for all to see. 2 servers vs 1 backed into spawn. just a badge grab. that’s war for you.

for the record, i’m not crying (before someone feels the need). i’m just posting the pic for posterity. like i said before, the proof is in the pudding.

Dovgan.8605:

Love the chat box. Ebay has our keep, we should retaliate by attacking AR. That is some fine logic.

yeah, most of us were thinking of doing that to ebay, but some wanted to retaliate on ar for what you see in the pic. to remove stress on retaking our keep, one might go to one or the other assaulting servers to help stretch their attacking forces. since ar won’t give us a reach around, they just help double penetrate.

a picture is worth a thousand words…

UnrealTravis.9016:

Yes a lot of things happen in WvW all the time, but we do not go and start crying about it. We try to keep it fun and make it a game of tug of war. We push, you push, and everyone just gives it “Full 100%” from both sides.

yes, good luck and have fun!

Kronos Zek.9715:

Brindled.2179:

Kronos Zek.9715:

and what’s your hidden point then? because all you seem to be crying about is your servers inability to defend its borderlands and lashing out at the other 2 servers because your server isn’t too good. #truth

your perception of me “lashing” out seems to be misplaced. i was called a liar by mentioning that population played a major role in the scoring imbalance and the will of ebay to take assets.

and, all you’ve done is insult me with your profane judgement.

If you don’t like it, don’t play. #dontletthedoorhityouonthewayout

haha, this is fun. more fun than wvw atm.

UnrealTravis.9016:

Brindled.2179:

and see, bp bl is queued because ar and eb are both double teaming us. even more reason the two opposing servers can keep doing what they’re doing.

let me explain something. my ego is not over inflated. i could care less if we drop 2 tiers. i dont care. however, the imbalance that is occurring is detrimental to some people’s fun, and only to come in to the thread and see baseless bragging is just what i would expect from the internet.

i wish i had taken a screenshot of bl bp when i made this post. ar had one half of the map and ebay the other, which proves my point.

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i was just told that what i was saying was common in wvw, now you’re saying that what i’m saying is disagreeing? you guys…

Kronos Zek.9715:

and what’s your hidden point then? because all you seem to be crying about is your servers inability to defend its borderlands and lashing out at the other 2 servers because your server isn’t too good. #truth

your perception of me “lashing” out seems to be misplaced. i was called a liar by mentioning that population played a major role in the scoring imbalance and the will of ebay to take assets.

and, all you’ve done is insult me with your profane judgement.

Kronos Zek.9715:

then why are you crying about it when it’s a common thing to see in WvW? and for someone who doesn’t care if “we drop 2 tiers” you sure cry and make a big fuss about have the other 2 servers in your BL. go get diaper changed plz.

youre being over presumptuous thinking i’d be crying over this. i’m merely making a point. a point that seems to elude you.

Kronos Zek.9715:

lol, you’re kind of a hypocrite. Can you please not post if you’re just going to say dumb things when the same thing has happened to the other 2 servers?

i never said they haven’t.

you’re the one insulting others. i have not.

and see, bp bl is queued because ar and eb are both double teaming us. even more reason the two opposing servers can keep doing what they’re doing.

let me explain something. my ego is not over inflated. i could care less if we drop 2 tiers. i dont care. however, the imbalance that is occurring is detrimental to some people’s fun, and only to come in to the thread and see baseless bragging is just what i would expect from the internet.

i wish i had taken a screenshot of bl bp when i made this post. ar had one half of the map and ebay the other, which proves my point.

Jinks.2057:

Thing about us Ebayers is we’ve shown ample times that 10 of us can wipe AR/BP zergs night in and night out.

To say ebay is only winning due to numbers is a lie. Ebay has some of the most skilled roamers in this game.

you say, “lie.” i say you’re in denial of the obvious truth.

Jinks.2057:

I was going to respond but Forzani pretty much destroyed the fella.

Ebay has more skill on a per player basis. I in no way say that AR/BP do not have skilled players….you just don’t have as many.

You add that fact along with the more organized WvW crowd…..it’s an uphill battle for ya’s

all your points just prove my point. ebay has more people. you can say you have more skilled people, but there’s no way to prove that quantitatively. having more people means you will have more skilled people due to the law of averages, which are in effect for all servers except for proclaimed pve servers. having more people means, yes, you’ll have more organized crowds. you’re stating the obvious with a slant to it in a manner that seems like a slight.

again, the truth/fact/proof is that you win due to the numbers being imbalanced in wvw. there’s no “likely” to it.

the only way you could prove that your quality of players is better would be if there was auto-balance on the servers that kept populations equal. there isn’t such a feature in place, so you can’t claim to have more skilled players based on a 1 to 1 comparison. it’s not possible to make that judgement.

a guy did a study months ago about how wvw turnout population has a direct result on scoring outcomes, and he was trying to devise a better scoring system to help landslides from occurring (i dont necessarily support the proposed system).
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/An-alternate-scoring-system-Accounting-for-population-differences/first

you can deny it if you like, but the truth, again, is that population is the reason anyone wins at wvw repeatedly. there will be the few skirmishes where the difference in population do not match the obvious outcome. however, those are few and far between, and usually have a logical reason (yes, strategy, too many uplevels, placement, positioning etc) as to the opposite occurring.

if you’re on the receiving end of much larger zergs on a regular basis it becomes clearly evident. the proof is in the pudding.

Stone.6751:

Plutonium.1308:

I’m excited just looking at the score sorrows is putting up in tier 6, hope they get here in one week.

I can’t see that happening. They had a good reset, but I can’t see them getting an even bigger margin of victory for the rest of the week to move up a tier. At this point I would be alright with it. Even though I enjoyed a lot of the fights last night, especially the fight to take back BP’s Garrison, I’m ready for a change of scenery. We aren’t ready to be anywhere near another tier higher, and the overall vibe from Ebay with the mocking, “dumpstering”, etc. is gross.

heh, so ebay is in 13th place atm. i guess bragging rights will brag. the game is still a game, and i can still log off and it not impact my life one bit.

the truth is they have a higher population turning out for wvw. simply put; they out number us. it’s not hard to see why they would win. let them have their day in the sun.

grasshopper.8539:

The honest truth is the only resin BP is a threat is because of Kalkz and his morning/night capping crew and upgrading everything for when NA wakes up. If BP didn’t have there morning crew they would still be in tear 6.

AR fought there way up here with WVW skill and commitment. Not being cared by PVD

If we take PVDkalkz out of the Picher, the game is a different story

if you think borlis is one person youre as ignorant as your post looks.

Good luck and have fun all!

taow.6892:

I sure did, and I am glad I did.

Mad Props to Rekz and Pk, they were absolutely determined to take that keep despite being wiped a couple times. While they were running back, AR would take their turn. In the end, EBay was able to bait some of our guys to the North Inner gate and wiped half of em.

It was literally a non-stop, hour long fight right in front of the Lord Room. Although, I did manage to cut out some boring auto-attacking and some fast forwarding to get it down to 20 mins. Thanks to everyone involved in that fight, was epic fun.

http://youtu.be/XfjF4eSdmdQ

I’m famous! Raptera (Borlis) here.

nah, really though, that was plenty fun!

I see that some of you remember to not clump us all together when it comes to WvW. A lot of us just want to have fun playing this game, going as far as partying with the enemy at times for conversation and 1v1 duels.

We do have some doozies of players that tend to bring others down and cause many to just leave WvW altogether (bullies/trolls if i may), which at times causes me to sit and rant on said player.

I appreciate the staunch competition we have faced. It serves to push us to get better.

And to sum it all up I’d have to say that pride is the most destructive behavior within pvp gaming. It prevents many from just having fun in many ways and forms.

No………….

I disagree. I started with the Necro and made the rounds making an 80 of each class (exotic gear on all). Now that I have finished, I am back to Necro having loads of fun. I had so much fun tonight in WvW that I am sure I’ll be playing the Necro as my main in the future. In WvW I thought I was having fun with my thief… I thought I was having fun with my elementalist… I thought I was having fun with my mesmer… I thought I was having fun with my warrior… but in the end, my Necro has taken center stage. Starting with a Necro, imo, made all the subsequent classes I played easy to get used to. Also, Fractals are the easiest to run with my Necro, including other dungeons.

I didn’t play GW1 so I had no expectations as to what the class should be like. And let me remind the OP, you said this was about the Necro in GW2. So, all I can guess is maybe your expectations have been misplaced, because I wouldn’t describe them as too high. My expectations have been met and exceeded. I really like the flow of the class and the design. DS has become a bonus that I didn’t have with any other class. It feels like a “Get out of jail FREE” card. HA HAAAAA

With the Necro I feel like a veritable Swiss Army knife. I feel like it’s only going to get better as I impove.

I’m lovin’ it

i can’t believe anyone would report those names previously mentioned in this thread. i could say many words to describe doing so, but i wouldn’t want to get reported, even if it wasn’t really offensive.

anyway, on topic: Maestrae (she also runs dual verdants)

my first char was necro to 80 and second was ranger to 80. now, with a mesmer near 80 i have to say i love the class. it took me a bit to settle on weapons, but i like the gs and s/p combo. i have been killing stuff above my level and dealing with multiple mobs.

i have a feeling it will be better than my necro in the end, and i thought i was partial to it. now, i’m not so sure.