Guild Wars 2

BTW, speaking of GvGs, I imagine it’s been buried in the thread by now, but the guild I’m an officer of, Remnants of Terror [RoT] is still looking for at least one more practice GvG this week, I believe and no, we don’t even care if you have three stacks of bloodlust on you. Either 15s or 20s. We’re starting to try and get active in them again after we took a few weeks break to train up our expanded guild roster.

We have one with ONE so far tomorrow, and unfortunately, we are an NA guild, so I don’t know if we can do any EU requests. We can only really get enough people on by around 5 or 6 PM Server time. =S

But yeah, we’d definitely want at least one more practice one some time during the week. =S

MrBowzer.2380:

Actually it is funny cause during weekends BG takes time off. While we still play, we simply do not put as much overtime as we do on the weekdays. Out queue time on BG right now is like 5 min to get into any given WvW realm. This is the case till around 6p est. Yesterday we saw lots of SoR and Tc guilds fighting hard 1-2 hours prior the present time. So around 1p est yesterday there was hard fights, now there is nothing. The chatter right now, is that SoR and Tc gave up. Now this does not stand for the later guilds, just the guilds that are meant to cover this timezone. These guilds that are supposed to be covering, are failing and PvEing. What makes this even more funny, is that fact that the 1st 1-8pgs of this thread was SoR flaming, now they are just hiding beneath layers of kittens. Run and hide, thats what you guys are good at, and will only be good at. Run and hide kittens, run and hide…

There’s NO TC guilds meant to cover that time zone. None. Zip. Zero. In fact, there’s currently NO active TC guilds with a daily WvW mission statement of fighting at any time outside NA Prime. We have zero non-NA organized coverage at the moment, and it doesn’t look likely to change for the foreseeable future.

Now, there are PvX guilds that will run from time to time, but they only play certain days, and hence, you will get experiences of us fighting like madmen at a certain time of day one day, and being completely deserted of any active players the next. You might even see NA guilds doing training at a time outside of NA, especially CERN.

But don’t ever expect regular fights from us outside the NA Prime. Total crapshoot, as far as we’re concerned. We don’t have any real coverage at any other hour. Our WvW maps are militia country the rest of the day. You guys just got lucky you actually ran into TC forces that might have resembled organized groups yesterday.

Demannu.2805:

Oh cmon, we are just a small casual Russian guild raiding few hours during our primetime, we will hardly impact anything. The current score is purely the result of BG players dedication to win the week. At best our small group will be able to flip a couple of camps – at best a tower.

Your size doesn’t matter so much when you’re Russian. That time slot is just…so valuable. You guys are already good players on top of having Prime playing hours in an off-Prime window where there’s that gap between the SEA Prime and the EU Prime times.

It’s sort of why we miss KH. They probably hurt TC leaving more than EP or ZN did, those guys. They were a small 20-25 man crew, but they basically played Hawaii hours. (They’re not Hawaiians, they just started super late because their commander got off work late, but that was basically their nightly raid time). Great players who will hold our third of multiple maps almost alone when everyone else in NA is in bed, while waiting for the Aussies and the Asians to get off work or get home from school.

omniomi.7351:

Caroline.4987:

It’s not that we’re not trying to 2v1. >_> We’re usually just not organized enough to do it, and especially to do it consistently. =P

Last night BG was hitting bay relentlessly on TCBL I think (maybe it was SoRBL, I don’t remember) which was owned by SoR and T3 with a waypoint. A TC zerg was standing around on the cliffs watching and killing BG players as they ran back and doing nothing else. When a server has a waypoint in the middle of the map it is in the best interest of both of the other servers to get rid of it. It doesn’t matter who takes the keep or even if they hold it, it’s about getting rid of the waypoint.

The “not organised enough to do it” wouldn’t have mattered much in that example… stop killing the BG players who are trying to get rid of the waypoint and kill the SoR players who are running back instead if you don’t want to come down to inner and directly 2v1 them… at one point TC even trebbed BGs siege at inner helping SoR and hurting yourselves by helping them keep their WP.

There are a few videos from last week floating around where JQ was working to get rid of an SoR waypoint and BG was sitting on the waypoint to make sure SoR couldn’t get back in during the fight… does it feel dirty working with the enemy? Absolutely, but it’s necessary sometimes. There’s no actual cross-server communication or planning in these instances it’s simply understood by all parties that at all costs the waypoint needs to go. It’s map politics.

You’ve just proved my point. TCBL is our WORST organized map. If you wanna have a decent chance of us 2v1ing a server, your best bet is to put it out there on SoRBL or BGBL. The percentage of seasoned guildie to militia zergling on those maps is much better. I was listening in on the comms for that one last night, and I think the commander spent at least fifteen minutes repeatedly reiterating that we were NOT to kill BG. And asking it to be typed in mapchat over and over. Thing is, half the zerg is full of roamers and sentries on break and all sorts of mavericks who are gonna do what they do. Red = dead.

Think he finally just gave up trying to control them. =S Our leaders and guilds understand waypoints need to go. But the militia dominate our server, and…well, the zerg’s gonna zerg.

Cuddlepie.8109:

I guess people go to T1 for the competitive and fun fights, and not easy wins right…. right?

The WvWers who are long term on all three T1 servers play for the fights and to win. If the matchup involves a server with less coverage then it’s going to hurt. That server does, however, have the opportunity to play kingmaker. But to do so, you’ve got to be prepared to get your hands dirty in the meta. TC is renowned for not doing so (ie. 2v1ing) ~ and I don’t mean this as a criticism.

Anyways, for BG (first 2 days) and SoR (last 18 hours) there has been nothing ‘easy’ about this matchup. When TC has had decent numbers on the maps – particularly when anchored on one of your solid guilds – it’s always a good fight. I appear to think more highly of your server mates than you do? Regardless, if you want to talk easy wins in Season 1, you may wish to glance in JQ’s direction.

It’s not that we’re not trying to 2v1. >_> We’re usually just not organized enough to do it, and especially to do it consistently. =P

celeron.3469:

Figures IRON would have this whole running excuse all thought out.

Anyway, you missed the part where I said some of us build so that you cannot escape. The only time people get away from me is if they have 3 vs me alone, or if they are standing within 1200 range of a tower and they are running all condi cleanse (like a guardian). I am built specifically to prevent this.

So given this information, IRON running guy, you have two choices:
1) die with your back to me, never even trying to attack (this one is pretty much a guarantee)
or
2) fight me, have a chance of killing me and escaping

I guess I’m one of those lucky ones who’s been given a guild build focused on getting the hell away when I’m not dropping damage. On top of being a silly ol’ warrior and having more speed than anyone long term. =P

Of course, I do make sure to always travel near cliffs ever since they introduce PPT from spiking. All zerglings should learn to do the same.

That said, roamers can be awesome to meet, coz you get some funny experiences. Just yesterday, I ran into two BG roamers from…I think it was NRK? They chased me up to a cliff where I was preparing to suicide to deny a spike over in NE camp, towards Hills in TCBL. The thief was doing a darn good job…until the mesmer moa’d me and I proceeded to survive a fall I shouldn’t have by doing the moa flee thingie right over the cliff. And…I got away coz’ neither was fall traited.

Technically, zerging the ruins is a good tactic to get rid of the PvE achievement hunters in their squishy gear following you…

So there’s always an excuse to do it, lol.

They’re definitely situational, but I’m actually liking ballistas more than arrow carts. The only reason people love the ACs more is because there’s still so many militia out there who don’t watch their health bar, and they get kills that way. The ACs success is predicated on poor play by the option, but the ballista, on the other hand, doesn’t even give squishier folks the option of paying attention. That stopping power can be so good when used right.

Really, I think the two should be used in tandem. Maybe even set up to help defend an offensive siege position where you’ve built a wall adjacent cata with that knock down or a flame ram with that fiery fear.

tokila.5324:

Gaining a good bit of respect for TS. Despite BG trying to get them to double team SoR they have been neutral for the most part. Each time we try to take BG garrison (Blue BL of coarse) they make an attempt to take our east keep each time BG moves south they snipe a northern tower or at least a northern camp. TS seems to have zero interest in joining a DT for either side.

Well…we actually tried to set up the DT on Garri for you guys on reset last night…at least, that was our marching orders from our map mates PINK. PLX can probably testify to that much. But we eventually got sick of Choo taking forever to get the job done.

So when the SoR guys on that BL proved far less efficient at actually capping the place than we’d hoped (especially compared to BGs efforts on SoR BL that night)…I’m not surprised if our guys there tonight didn’t bother trying.

BTW, to uh, rephrase the boss’ inebriated post from earlier more politely (in hopes people will accept), RoT is looking for GvGs from anyone, purely as practice. We’re asking for 15s or 20s only because we can’t guarantee a night where we even have 25 members on, and if we do, some of them are gonna be new recruits, though we have had some nights before with 30+ folks online. We’ve had less than 25 the last two though.

Also, we can’t do Wednesday since we’ve already scheduled one with ONE.

Finally, we’d prefer to experience a variety of opponents, and do fights we haven’t had before, so TW and Choo rematches, if those guilds happen to want them, will have to wait on any offers from other guilds we haven’t met by the windmill yet.

Kalla.4290:

I am in a few guilds but for the purposes of that previous post I was in [HoL] Harbingers of Light, and please don’t associate anything I say as coming from them, they let me in once to help them earn guild influence and I just started squatting.

Don’t get me wrong I love reading the posts of your guild leader Gully, but you drew my ire with one forum brag to many, maybe it was because I was reading the JQ/SoS/Mag thread but I have been getting a bit sick of the roamer elitists posts for a while. Roaming is essentially a selfish act in WvW and bragging about a selfish act when there are loads of people who scout and never post about that yet they help their server more is getting a wee bit ridiculous. It is like winning isn’t enough for roamers but they have to gloat as well.

“I did something to such and such guild, they are all lame”. Take your latest belittlement of FEAR, a guild that I have seen trounce more than their own number of many a server (including BG), you call them lame in a public forum and expect not to be heckled? oPP can’t do what FEAR does, should oPP be belittled because of that? Stop bragging about your own accomplishments so much and brag about the accomplishments of others, you will have a better rep.

You’re wasting your time. You’re basically asking roamers not to be roamers. If they were purely in it for the fights, there’s plenty of 1v1 fighter games out there. If they were in it for small group action, there’s always those shooters.

There’s a reason they’re doing it in an MMORPG, after all. These players probably HATE the fact that you can’t see their username. They wanna show off their skill by fighting alone, but people can’t see…precisely because they’re alone. So they gotta point it out now and then.

And it’s their right and it’s their fun. If a roamer wants to chase me and gank me and celebrate it while I’m trying to get to the objective I wanna scout or get back to my guild, they’ve earned it. If they wanna mock my guild tag as well on the forums to draw attention to that fact, they’ve earned it too…although whatever video they post up with it will probably be kitten poor coz all it’ll show is me running until I die and their sheer awesomeness as a chaser (which is probably why they wouldn’t bother much). =P

Some of us little zerglings are quite aware our builds aren’t particularly useful alone. But I digress…Just…roamers gonna roam. Gotta live with it.

Yeah…have fun with the guild banquet. =3 Beaver says hi!

Whee…SoR and BG are living up to their word for once and actually not double teaming us! Gotta love that T1 hatred. #T1 #togetherforever

Fomby.4295:

kraftie.4765:

Comprissent.3856:

At least we now know SoS can’t beat mag when they can’t put up +695 on us all week long OCX

Pretty sure we’re against TC also, not just Mag.

Try again.

At least we know that SoS can’t beat Mag when they can’t put up a +695 ppt durning oceanic times due to TC also having a night presence.

Did I fix it?

Eh, I think you won’t need us to be there from here on out. As long as [KH] stays in Maguuma, SoS will never +695 Oceanic on you again anyways. Nor will any other server, really. =P

Take care of them. =3 We’ll miss those buttkickers dearly.

If ANet made defending keeps and defending towers as part of the meta achievement, TC would probably have some of the best defended ones in WvW. It’s how it is. We just live with it. Capping camps is one of the grindiest ones of the lot, after all. Not as bad as yaks or sentries or merc camps, but eh.

Thor.1756:

Just not true. I’ve been on JQ, been in tier 1 since day one. I’ve had full queues against two other servers who also had full queues constantly. There’s certainly been a lot of lag over time fighting in t1 wvw.

But this lag almost always occurred in 3-way fights, almost always in keeps where npcs and siege were adding to the calculations, and almost always involved 120+ players. I never complained about this lag, I accepted it as a natural result of such massive fights, and, frankly, our own kitten fault for running such large zergs and for forcing 3-way fights.

Since the launch of season 1, every server on every tier is reporting massive, unplayable lag, resulting from minor zerg fights of 30v30. Something DID magically change. I don’t know if its the achievements, or some kitten spilt coffee on the wrong computer. Whatever it is, Anet kittened up. Bad.

Hmm…I dunno if this helps or not, but I honestly have rarely noticed this issue except in the former three way situation, just liked it used to be. However, I run an AMD card.

My fellow players who talk to me about their lag experiences said that just around the same time as the season’s start, NVidia popped in a new update for its drivers, if you happen to use that graphics card supplier. I’d suggest anybody who’s using them for their graphics look into that and maybe see if the issue is on that end. I’m completely useless on computer tech, so I don’t think I can really elaborate further on what the issue was, exactly. Only that stuff don’t quite work right.

Maguuma, come back to your BL! I promise not to lay ballistas behind the Briar choke next time I sit at the ninja cata spot. =(

(Really should bind that Spread Shot to the “kill button”)

Player Character.9467:

You also put the word AND before achievement hunting.

And actually, you’re killing somebody who was on the borderland long enough to walk to the camp near their spawn. And that’s on top of the camps being impossible to get if you can’t manage 450 WvW kills especially when you’re top ppting.

Hey, it only takes one person not paying attention out of fifteen to screw it up for everyone else.

Somebody starts slapping you while you’re already stinging from trying to camp cap, even other people who would rather let the camp flip are forced to just try and get their tags in and hope for WXP, especially if people are unresponsive to their typing out stuff. TBH, that’s usually why roamers end up getting ganged up on. “Ooh, an enemy’s getting damaged and CC’d. Tag for WXP!”

You’re acting like all fifteen of them are running on voice comms and everything and are going to work in perfect harmony.

That’s why I put boredom BEFORE achievement hunting.

And actually, it usually does gives you WXP…unless you’d gotten killed very recently. And that’s on top of some people finding 450 WvW kills being a steep hill to climb.

Rance.4570:

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

Rance.4570:

I was asking a question not whiny. If you were so good wouldn’t it be better to split into smaller groups of skilled players to attack multiple things instead of one giant blob of karma zombies?

I hate to break it to you, but we’ve been doing that all week. Smaller guild groups roam around taking smaller objectives while the commander tag herds the cats around the map. Obviously we’re going to have more “militia” than usual in the leagues, so that group is going to be MOST of the maps forces in one place. Do we have hills on SoS BL? Is there a larger zerg attacking other objectives? Chances are that WAR or NOPE is working on sieging it up and keeping supply lines open.

By smaller you mean another zerg right?

I think what you’re seeing is that we do this less on our highest coverage period, because the percentage of players on comms vs players who aren’t on the map during NA is usually pretty bad. At best, you’ll see two separate groups…a guild and a militia group, IF you’re lucky.

At worst, there’s just the blob.

But like, yesterday, rolling around early EU prime, I had a zerg that varied from 15-30 people, there was a small voice comm’d group with 10-15, and there was CERN guild running with 25-30 on MagBL. That’s how the Bay and Hills waypoints got cracked, really.

We know not moving as one blob works best…just, with the current queues, we can’t really implement it well during the time a lot of you guys play.

Niim.9260:

Caroline.4987:

I don’t remember how many seconds this skill takes to fire or whatever conditions that skill lays down. I just remember “push button to live” and “push button to kill”

I think it is good that blobbers are taking things to the next level. Instead of all your abilities mapped to one button, you have mapped them to two. Congrats!

My mouse only has two buttons! What else am I going to map them to? (Seriously…I haven’t actually changed the button mapping from the default, and I know most “skilled”/“pro” players do that) =P It’s so cheap and old, it doesn’t even have the wheel. Regardless…I kill you in a small group, you oughta be ashamed. I’ll keyboard turn on your corpse, just so you know!

D Best: RoT was originally a CERN splinter off that was…somewhat unhappy with the heavier PvE focus of the guild that occurred during Nightlight’s forced break away from the game. I think it might almost be safe to use the past tense there, btw. The server certainly misses the battle rooster. =3

We only have kitten person full guild roster at the moment, so part of me is pretty happy we’re almost at the point where we field 25-30 regularly despite how small that list is. I dunno if I quite want it much bigger than that. If the queues hadn’t malfunctioned on reset night for the season, we were looking at our first 40 person group run, which is personally a bit much for me.

Our current membership has a fair number of new recruits over the last few weeks, and yes, unlike other people groaning about PvErs entering our game mode…we’re picking up people and giving them try outs instead. =3

We picked up people from some old TC guilds though. There are some of ZN’s people who didn’t want to move and an increasingly sizable number of ex-TSL. The second part is a little funny, because we basically have our roster steadily increasing from all these TSL guys who have taken four or five month hiatuses and find themselves coming back to a game with no guild, and getting references from our current ex-TSL members.

dreztina.4820:

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

Found a roaming thief on Mag tonight in SoS BL. I stood there as he tried his opening attack on me and I just shrugged off his damage with two healing shouts. Not usually one to call names but asudem came along and gave him a real 1v1 and he bailed as fast as he could after taking 60% of his health in a single hit.
Am I allowed to generalize an entire server based on this thief’s trash build?

I’m not generalizing a server off one player. I’m generalizing it off quite a few hours of roaming and many, many players. Like Caffynated said, when it comes to TC, if you even see someone who looks like they’re alone and wants to fight, they’ll bail/call guildies to help. I’ve run into a handful of guilds that looked like roaming guilds, but as soon as I got one of them alone and they started to get spanked, the cavalry came flying in.

I dunno if I ever ran into you, but I definitely and intentionally do this for my guild…I imagine others do so too. It’s how I troll. The point is to frustrate you guys, just like you annoy us when you pick somebody distracted off when we’re doing our group thing and proceed to emote all over the corpse. =P

I scout. I don’t roam. And I don’t honestly mind if people wanna try and gank me while I do it. They should be, to help their server and keep me from finding targets. But just expect that sometimes, you’re gonna pay the price for it. I usually won’t even attempt to fight, just run. shrug Call me a skilless hack then, if you want, but I got my lootbag. Maybe it was me you caught once, but I must’ve been on a victory high from winning a zerg fight if I actually, seriously, looked like I wanted to fight….either that or I knew the train was due any second. My usual roamer reaction is avoid like hell, but sometimes, I do break discipline (and usually regret it).

Honestly, some of us play WvW because yes, we just aren’t the sort of player who has solid reactions, uses overlays and fancy crap, dual boxes and has multi button mouses. I like the strategy aspect of it and breaking down the siege of a keep when I’m tagged, and I like getting to kill lots of people when I’m guild running. I came into this MMO because of some friends, but my gaming history is RTS and turn based strat heavy, as opposed to shooter and fighting gamers out there. I don’t remember how many seconds this skill takes to fire or whatever conditions that skill lays down. I just remember “push button to live” and “push button to kill”

Mag definitely has good roamers though…at least as far as I can tell, since I find more Maggies can have a great go at bursting me down solo than there are T1 sorts, which usually need fully parties to get me down. It’s very interesting to fight the Mag groups because there’s all this counter periphery, some of which are just roamers filtering in from nearby and trying to pick off anybody floating about the fringes like me that makes it almost a cat and mouse game.

But I honestly always expect to die if a roamer catches me straight up out in the open alone and I celebrate when I don’t. I’m not speccd to roam at all, after all, on top of my finding no delight in it and it happens now and then when I scout…I don’t mind. Part of the game for me, really. Maybe it looked like I wanted to fight…but no, it’s rarely ever the sort of thing I will do without back up.

Anyways, that’s just a personal view on what you might be experiencing when looking for “solo” roamers and finding poor quality ones. Some of us just happened to be alone at whatever moment you see us…but we’re not actually roaming. in fact, sometimes, I’m intentionally baiting.

Canguro.5768:

Went to TC BL with 2 other guys, killed 1 dolyak, 10 TC showed up, went to a camp, 15 TC showed up, killed 5 TC and 20 showed up, casually passed by a tower, AC and cannon manned… that desperate on PPT even when is obvious that you are going to win the week?

It’s not PPT play. It’s sheer boredom and achievement hunting play. All four maps had queues for us again tonight…and until PYRO showed up, there was nothing for them to do in the motherland for anybody begging for WXP. Doing anything on our BL as a small group like that is like dropping a steak in a tank full of piranhas.

Anyways, fun fights on Mag BL tonight, though I was afk half the time doing work and watching hockey. Good to see INC and co working hard to clean up the mess my zerg and CERNs guild run made during the day hours. Sorry the NA time golem rush on Bay proved abortive. You had the misfortune of starting to building those things at wurm gate the very moment a second guild group finally got all its people through the MagBL queue and they rushed in to help us out.

Uh…and to the guys that got portal bombed by my Omega Golem in North Camp…I simply thought the emotes I was getting suggested you needed to see more silly things.

TC probably just has so many people that our roamers end up running into each other loads, lol. What’s a roamer going to do? Tell the other guy to leave?

Odinzu.9645:

Caroline.4987:

[ART] is an NA guild? =S But I kept running them over with 20 militia this morning…=S

Nope! ART I think is SEA. They run 10-20 normally. We had a fun gvg with them last time vs SoS. Interesting playstyles.

but anyway, for fights come to EB if you are mag/SoS!

Ah…I guess it was getting late for them. No guild group fully revved up and comped should be getting trampled by 20 militia with no voice comms and zero stacking for any buffs!

[ART] is an NA guild? =S But I kept running them over with 20 militia this morning…=S

Werat.7063:

I got no idea who is frustrated here. I only pointing out number you see when you awake. So if you are an oceanic defender maybe we should meet up and have a nice chat some time in the future. I`d throw in some coffee and cake or a meat pie for dinner. There`s a big difference between being in bed when you loose to a big blob vs. being actually there trying to defend it….for several months now, some a lot longer.
Been doing it for a long time so no probs on my side. Was only amused because in the past we used to loose this to mags. Guess tc just gets up earlier.

Well, it’s really just…I logged on after breakfast and EBG was queued…so I was like…ah well, let’s tag up on SoSBL. I was gonna leave after the tower coz my queue popped, but they told me to stay.

So there went SoS Bay, SoS Hills, (My queue popped again…I stayed once more), SoS Garri (Which I thought was going to take multiple pushes but didn’t)…SoS Bay again.

Then, went and took Mag Bay, had lunch. Had a few goes on draining up Mag Hills before CERN finally flipped it. Took a few swipes at Garri after, but eh, that was a long shot.

Anyways, if you’re curious as to why I tend to be rather silly and happened to run from you if you tried to hit me in the field…ah, I don’t have a mic, and almost everyone with me had no voice comms when we did all that. We did have a guild group on our flanks for the field stuff, which was quite nice, but a fair bit of the siege work was my beloved militia. There’s only so much you can ask of militia, and I find no shame in working within those limits when I’m not running with my guild. =3

Laugh about siege creeps and overkill all you like. I’ve got a big handicap managing all my people purely through text, and asking my toon to stand in the clutch and live through the bombs while I type. When I’m tagged up…fact of the matter is, I don’t care. Just ask JQ about those 33 Omega Golems on Bay last Wednesday.

Sigh…I never did get into EBG. ;-;

Anyways, good on Maguuma for holding on to that NW Tower and Garrison. I won’t be around tomorrow morning, but I’m hoping one of our more usual EU commanders is going to be online and actually running voice and stuff. Maybe they’ll have more luck. =P

Achievement Farming, or they decided to double team you coz they figured you had three easy weeks in gold league vs their one…which means they had to beat you down this week?

That said, grats on finishing the achieve quickly enough. =3 Although, I doubt pure PvE players will be as successful, since you at least have 30 min-1 hr daily experience in WvW.

Tough luck for those people.

They should have done what Mag did back when and told all the wannabe transfers to kitten off…and it would definitely help to NOT pay them gold to do it, at that.

What…it’s not like my server is free of queues. We’re getting the queues T1s used to get during NA prime. There’s no PvDooring happening anywhere at NA prime, at this point, except maybe like, some of the lowest bronze league servers. The Silver leaguers are all like…omg, we actually have queues!?

What I didn’t do is bandwagon over to another server, since this was my home server from since when I started playing.

You guys should be like Agg. They saw what was up the first day of the leagues, and hopped right away. =P

You knew what queues WERE like. There’s your problem. You’re telling me y’all assumed queues are going to be the same forever. A little forward thinking would have told you that WvW Season 1 was going to ratchet up the queues.

Oh c’mon. You guys up in T1 country were even WARNED. Devon himself posted it, and you guys were like “Oh, queues aren’t like that. Don’t overstate it. You don’t know your own game. Your numbers are wrong. Come, keep stacking our server! The queues are a myth!” And it’s not like us lower servers didn’t try to point this out to you either. This is your own fault, not anyone else’s.

Did nobody up there actually stop to calculate that for the few hundred, to maybe couple thousand WvW players a server has, even the most WvW loaded server in NA like SoR, would have four to six times as many PvErs, probably more, and realized the T1 queue times would be made four to six times worse because of that? Game has a few million players, right? And WvW only caps out at 400+ ish per server.

Maybe next time a dev says something on the forums, actually listen instead of just bashing him.

Yeah…I usually run heavy zerker myself, and I’m also a hammer warrior who’s all melee and generally run in a 20-30 guild zerg, so it’s not just for small group havocs like deathTouch described. I rarely have any issues, unless I’m just having an off day playing every once in a while, heh.

The only situation where it really hurts you is skill-lag mode, in which case you’re gonna get shredded once you use up you’re two or three dodges, haha, coz none of your mobility is gonna fire.

With the current increase in random skill-lag that’s almost SMC level since the patch though, I’ve had to mix in a bit more Knight’s and Soldier’s to buy a bit of time for extra dodges, heh.

To Ark&INC: Need to apologize for Jereme being silly. He’s just going off the numbers our guild leader got from INC’s field commander from an exchange of whispers. If you’re saying he lied to mess with our heads…well, all’s fair in love and war. Personally, I was glad for the fight (I only got one with y’all before we map hopped. >_<).

We haven’t fought the real Maguuma as a guild together yet and I see it as a learning opportunity. Everyone knows you roll a different meta than the melee trains which is all we’ve had to fight for most of the time we’ve played…learning to fight it is a different story though and its an interesting experience. I say the “real Maguuma” because…well, the last couple times we played y’all, Agg was masking all that with their T1 style combat.

You could just do a jumping puzzle. You only have to do 15 out of the 18 achievements to complete the meta achieve.

Oh dear…someone doesn’t realize this is going to be the new normal…

You think they’re gonna stop with a single season? =P

Jared: Umm…you wanna give Tarnished Coast four first place finishes? =S That’s almost guaranteed to screw one of the T1 servers out of third place…

Uh…only our league has ten unique matchups. Every other league has more….and lol, every other league is probably more competitive. sigh

Well, here’s hoping enough people stop showing up to make them challenging again.

Short of forced destacking of servers, what else can you do?

EDIT: Problem with a schedule like that is…I think everyone wants the three way T1 fight more than once in seven weeks.

It’s actually in the images, just as a separate one for some reason.

ANd yeah, it probably does make sense, but is it actually mathematically possible for all three T1s to get two easy weeks each?

I mean…If JQ got three, and SoR and BG each only got one…that’s only five weeks to spread out amongst three servers.

Slushey.8236:

Caroline.4987:

One week?

Wait…so we’re supposed to lose to SoS and Mag the second time we meet them?

There is no second time. This week is your only match up with SoS and Mag. Every week after this you will be at least with JQ, SoR or BG.

Someone needs to work on their reading comprehension…

“Round 7 11/29 thru 12/5
League Red Blue Green
Gold Blackgate Sanctum of Rall Jade Quarry
Gold Maguuma Sea of Sorrows Tarnished Coast”

Personally…I dunno if you’ll see anyone from TC complain about THAT schedule.

Unless Blackgate breaks out of being the third wheel of the T1 servers as it’s recently been…we’ve got third place. =P

One week?

Wait…so we’re supposed to lose to SoS and Mag the second time we meet them?

Fun times in TCBL tonight! Wiped a few, and we wiped a few. Haven’t seen you guys try to deblob in a long while. =3 It was interesting.

Thank you OnS, PLX, REV, Work, ZN, Agg, Leet, NS, RATS, S…was it SF/SG? I forgot…for all the fights. If I missed a guild that was running organized in either the JQblob or the BGblob…uh…sorry!

Now…we just gotta work on you guys coming at us one at a time. We need to empty our bags and all…=S

Uh…Blackgate…valiant effort at TCBL Hills…but what part of “we still have 30 omega golems on the map” and we’re only gonna bother to use half on y’all made you figure you were actually going to hold the place…=S

Well…every time your roamers got themselves killed, there was obviously a long delay before they managed to walk their way back north to peek again, while I had interior lines to work with, haha.

Oh…well, if your roamers didn’t tell you…considering how many of them saw me at work…

That’s my little secret then. =P

It was only 28 of them. =S

Well, 33, but like, five of them were busted up from hitting hills and were down to like…10-20k health each.

I wanted to tell them to wait until I got to 40, but they wouldn’t listen! ;-;

Yeah…I’m trying a melee dps zerger…

Trying to decide whether I like the extra dps of Reckless Dodge spam vs Leg Specialist near perma immob, heh.

I know a friend who’s going back to a shout warrior in cleric’s with the heal buffs.

Personally, I was actually excited by the swap, mostly coz Lung Capacity to Adept was a PvP godsend…=S

Why would it go down?

The AoE nerf makes hammer training even easier. =( Plus between Leg Specialist stealth buff and Staggering Blow, Hammer’s actually gotten buffed for us.

Thanks [Agg] for indulging the boss on that impromptu GvG, even though I ain’t personally a fan of ‘em. Can’t do ‘em much myself since I don’t have a mic. =3

Guys definitely need a bit more work if they’re gonna do that again. We hadn’t done one in like…a month now, I think.

Omegas are so cheap now due to the duping…the market still has far from recovered, so just buy another.

Really…I’ve lost at least 50 Omega Golems so far to trolls and multiaccount spies dropping them off cliffs and stuff, especially free trial weekenders…over the four months or so I’ve been playing WvW. I’m surprised people are more outraged by this can’t cancel business. shrug

For me, the drop in price for duping was, as far as I’m concerned, ANet giving me a break for their lack of a “Can be claimed by Owner” function on the kitten things.

They need to get it in while they have all the Bloodlust buffs. Otherwise, it wouldn’t be fair.