Guild Wars 2

Even increased radius isn’t perfect, actually. At the minimum, if you spread the rams, you need to hit at least two, maybe three spots on the door to knock all of them out. With current ram mastery ramming rates, the door will be down before you destroy all the rams.

The two heavy classes (which make up like…80% of drivers) in their usual zerg set ups have moves that are basically built in ram range finders. I imagine some other classes have something similar as well.

No excuse if people don’t care to use ’em, heh.

Scruffy Golem Blueprints.

And I want to ride on top, dang it.

I already do a lot of what the siege disabler does with cheap ballistas and arrow carts. Costs less, and the disabling tends to be permanent. >_>

This one’s just gonna be for the trickier spots to reach. And yeah…Ram Mastery did need something of a counter.

Disabler doesn’t hurt Catapults and Golems so much…especially with the incoming Golem Mastery alongside.

Also, anybody with any sense in ram placement knows exactly how to place them to keep just out of the reach of a door knocker treb. So no, the disabler can’t just be thrown at the inside of a gate to disable, unless your opposition is silly. You’ll have to climb up and expose yourself, all the same.

Knackers.8562:

Well playing for fights doesnt mean youre willing to lose everything, T3 towers are prizes, and we defend them. But if i see a t0 tower getting taken, i really couldnt care less about it unless im close by, rushing to the closes orange swords, looking for enemies, fighting in front of enemy keep, or leaving SM open as farm bait =D Playing on the defensive also gets fights but im not going to look up on the tick timer and time my ticks on buffs

But…sacrificing paper towers for higher objectives IS PPT thinking.

If you actually went and got a havoc crew and sat in there to kitten the people trying to flip it off…and perhaps even farm them…That’s just looking for a fight.

Deli.1302:

Peetee.9406:

I do have to apologize for the huge off hour blobs tho. Trust me, We (GC) are trying to run with small numbers but are having a lot of Rallians attach to us.

You won’t be apologizing for your blob once you see the Xushin mega map blob

Actually, Xushin’s been running around a lot the last few days…and been ordering people to split off onto other tags. For the most part, Maguumans have done so pretty willingly. Haven’t had a mega map blob since us SBI transfers came in, for the most part.

I imagine it’s because there’s actually other tags now.

Honestly…I just want fights, whatever server I end up on for this stuff…

But if those weapon skins actually look any sort of good…I am so bandwagoning to T1 just to get them. =P

I think they’ve already responded at some point before when this was brought up during the Collaborative Dev thread that EU and NA servers playing together wasn’t feasible without way too much tech work…

I mean, there’s gotta be a reason why you can guest to any NA server but not to any EU one…they probably just extended that function for EoTM…

Yeah, your best bet really is to try the lower tiers. People up in T1 and T2 are kinda set in their ways about what they think the ideal guild composition is…lower tiers are more willing to experiment, though…the fights might not be as regular.

It’s kinda disappointing. I don’t know if it’s just people not trusting their engi players on their server or just a general dearth of engi players in the wvw population to actually consider the experiment worth it, but theoretically, a large group of engineers would be the basis of a hard counter to the hammer train meta’s sustainability. Just don’t think a lot of people have considered trying to run them in sizeable groups…especially not since the engineer got AoE stability as an option.

Screw interrupting the stealthed guy.

Hundred Bads over a downed ally’s body you see get put there by a stealthy class usually nets me a downed enemy player like, at least 75% of the time. =P It’s kinda hilarious…it’s like all these roaming thieves are too busy celebrating to cancel out of the stomp.

Say what you will about how awful that skill can be…it does the job on certain things, heh.

I dunno why anyone seeing a warrior with the sword-horn, GS would actually think the person’s a roamer…

I’d let the guy go and tail him back to his zerg, coz he’s either a scout or a zergling that got left behind…especially if they’ve got some ranks on them. The fact that he’s got his run stuff on basically just telegraphs for you that there’s a group they’re with, coz no sane warrior uses that set up alone.

Serenity.8246:

Wait…we queued a map at reset?? Unless you were thinking that when the outnumbered buff went off those few times that meant we queued. lol

It was freaky to have that buff on YBBL during the reset prime time. I don’t think I’ve seen that like…ever.

Mag had the buff too a few times, from what I heard. I think everyone saw the “A new build will be available in 10 minutes” RIGHT as they queued in for reset, and were too kitten ed off at the ridiculous timing of it to come back for a bit after the build went through. We never had the buff, but we didn’t have queues on any maps either for about an hour from the start.

I know one of the guys following Olaf was getting whispers from Angela, but all he said about it was that he was getting annoyed he couldn’t whisper back to tell the person to stop coz he was blocked. _

Winkin.1490:

Speaking of SBI, their north-north camp has been the source of many LOLs the past few days.

Wait…Maguuma also calls it North-North!? I always thought that was just a weird SBI thing when we moved here, heh.

mikerock.6187:

Natronix.9827:

I saw that griefer with the [SoL] tag when I was commanding.

She told me to hit Mag’s garri, because she wasted all you guys supply.

I didn’t. Much later i put my map hopping team there, cap mag hills, and break into garri and took out the worthless trebs for ya.

Sorry for that griefer. We did not use it as an advantage and I hope he leaves you guys alone

thank you, i knew he/she/it, was sending y’all information, it followed our map hops and where it/he/she went, your morning zerg shortly followed.
we made the mistake of leaving ebg keep unattended with he/she/it wasting our supply, and you guys took advantage of that mistake well.
also, you people should represent “[TrZ] Terrorize”, and “[Olaf] Y Die” more.
:P
not sayying you took the spy info with open paws, but someone did.

hope you stay alive over the weekdays
goodluck for the win SBI
love you!

It’s Terrorise. The amount of Aussies and Canucks in the guild require that we use the proper English spelling. =P We kept the Z in the tag to mollify the Yanks and…uh…because Zs are awesome.

Runehand.9368:

Is Mag Pvkitten itself?

BTW Caroline – YB hasn’t queued anything since reset.

I figured as much. I honestly haven’t seen you guys put up the numbers you were putting up before reset. But you’re still better at calling everyone on the map to a position than we are, lol.

sirflamesword.3896:

Caroline.4987:

Oh they do, but for the EXACT SAME REASON that the guy I responded to said. Because they just got run over by a larger Maguuma or YB force and want some blood. Because apparently, Maguuma and YB never run in less than server queues. Or close enough as looks like it.

I can’t believe someone from SBi is talking about qBlobs from Mag and YB. There is a reason some people like to call the SBi zerg the Zombie horde, it’s because you literally have everyone that can be on the map in that one spot(plus they follow the commander around like zombies even if he chases 1 guy).

Believe it! But seriously, what you say is somewhat true. We know our server has plenty of flaws, and we know at some times our server is capable of putting up ridiculous numbers. (And we do intentionally 1 guy chase for a reason sometimes.) But those numbers are very rarely organized. It’s part of our growing pains.

SBI zergs can be very mindless. We want “fights” and “bags”. Only our best militia wranglers can get something effective out of them. We’re awful at all calls to defend threatened locations, and we’re awful at responding to threats. Our real fighting power is stuck in the guilds, and adding militia to them tends to decrease their effectiveness drastically.

YB and Mag Blobs are dangerous because they tend to have some idea what they are doing. You guys basically blob knowing you are blobbing, even if you go ahead and forum warrior about not ever doing so. Our militia blobs because they don’t know any better. =(

Put it another way, SBI blobs best when it’s probably unnecessary while our opponents in this match up blob best when they think it’s necessary. =P

Oh they do, but for the EXACT SAME REASON that the guy I responded to said. Because they just got run over by a larger Maguuma or YB force and want some blood. Because apparently, Maguuma and YB never run in less than server queues. Or close enough as looks like it.

Boonprot.6274:

Runehand.9368:

Maguuma in a nutshell: ‘Y U NO FITE?’ – outnumbers you 3 to 1

Except, the majority of times, Mag guilds won’t interfere with each other’s fights so long as it looks relatively even or the Mag guild is handled being outnumbered well enough. If you get omni-blobbed by 2+ Mag guilds coordinating separately, I promise it’s because they were just run over by the SBI or YB queue and are out for your blood. Neither of you seem to roll with anything less, and it can make things annoying when the only Mag guild that can pull over 30 people is PYRO, and rarely at that.

The only SBI guild that can pull over 20 people regularly is Abyss. >_> So yeah…to basically every SBI guild out there, Maguuma always looks like a blob. =P You guys have done Gold way too much.

You’ll see a few others spike up now and then, like TE, but 15 is a fairly regular number for almost every other SBI guild (maybe it’ll be better after the holidays and the finals, who knows?), with maybe a couple havocs that run in 5s and 10s. If you see a group with more, assume there’s militia with it. And we generally have to keep those guys happy….they’re still the significant majority of our WvW population.

So if a guild’s not on the map, you’re never going to see less than a militia zerg, shrug.

You guys started it! Our commander just decided a random counter golem rush was the best way to draw it off, lol.

Eh, he’s inebriated…so…yeah. =S

Pichichi.1975:

I feel like I’m clubbing kittens after playing in gold league. I have never seen as many half baked builds as I have on SBI roamers. I think my favorite so far is a thief that runs basi and haste and tries to backstab + 2 spam someone down then bail if it doesn’t work.

Wait…you mean there’s thieves that actually don’t do that? I really need to get ganked more often, I swear. =S

Sigh…Every roamer build looks almost the same at lowest settings. _

Maybe if you try the Savage Leap with swiftness on. I think it goes further that way. And Engineers generally have an even bigger leap.

Boonprot.6274:

Caroline.4987:

You know…for not actually trying to PPT…Maguuma’s certainly doing a good job of it. Hmm, they caught up to YB over the SEA time…

I believe our only SEA commander has returned from the dead to farm SBI and YB for bags.

Oh, he was that guy who was protesting your being in Gold League or something, right? Took a seven week break?

You know…for not actually trying to PPT…Maguuma’s certainly doing a good job of it. Hmm, they caught up to YB over the SEA time…

Yeah…someone definitely hasn’t seen SBI in a while. There were no tags on MagBL all reset night long, lol. TBH, BEAST, DR and TE rarely do these days…at least not in NA Prime.

There were tags on each guild in YBBL, but the guilds there had about 15 each, and they were all looking for recruits, hence they wanted to see the pugs.

And…Abyss was on SBIBL.

As for open field siege, eh…some guilds will use it, some guilds mock it. Yeah, you probably look bad if you get wiped when you lay it, but on the other hand, if you keep track of which guilds despise it, it makes perfect bait once in a while. =P

ParaldaWind.4523:

Caroline.4987:

Evalana.5480:

Dieallknow.1387:

they are still kitten we left

One word to describe your guild in question: expendable.

We got shiny new guilds after you left! Out with the quantity over quality guilds and in with the quality over quantity.

Looking forward to fighting you this week!

Even got bigger bags :P

Does that mean you guys are shipping off PYRO and TG at some point? =S Apart from Abyss, I dunno if there’s even another guild on SBI that runs as deep as them.

Last night [PYRO] ran 25 most of the night. At one point around 3 AM last night, we invited all of [TG]’s 25ish to run our tag and ran as a megablob for 10 minutes or so.

Regardless, TOM seemed to be running at least 20, probably more earlier in the night, and DDLG had a good 15. Them triple engaging with KWBH and some pugs more than evened out our numbers.

25? Yep…definitely more than any SBI guild except Abyss, indeed. =P And apparently, WCS, HDA and AoN are chopped liver.

Evalana.5480:

Dieallknow.1387:

they are still kitten we left

One word to describe your guild in question: expendable.

We got shiny new guilds after you left! Out with the quantity over quality guilds and in with the quality over quantity.

Looking forward to fighting you this week!

Even got bigger bags :P

Does that mean you guys are shipping off PYRO and TG at some point? =S Apart from Abyss, I dunno if there’s even another guild on SBI that runs as deep as them.

Furiousbeard.7602:

Mag resorting to ACs!?!

Say it ain’t so!!

He’s talking about NOVA. They’re allowed to use ACs on Mag. Special permissions and such. =P

Depends…YB pulls some crazy hours when they really want something….either that or they have a crapload of Canadians coz there were massive numbers of them out in force during Thanksgiving, eh? Then again, people might fair weather off…

Pretty sure Mag has the scarier NA….but they haven’t had to work on PPT play style in quite a while, so while they’ll get their bags, they could stay stuck in third.

It’s really hard to tell what the coverage will be ultimately until the weekdays though.

And yeah TC, is not the same T1.5 server FA saw when they last fought them. They’ve prolly lost like 5 guilds worth of seasoned WvW players since that last match with y’all. There’ve been new hands coming in, but yeah…

I thought the Ironborn motto was “We do not sow.” =S

And yeah, looking forward to them EU NOVA trains. Hope they still run. They made my summer. =3

Hmm…do I?

Well, I DO know Mag is burnt from 7 weeks of Gold League…and they’ve never really reset hard anyways. SBI is furious at YB for two weeks ago…and YB wasn’t able to sock SBI hard at reset this time around. Personally, from the TS talk I’ve heard, I think SBI might be underestimating YB. And I can see SBI’s leading right now…and Maguuma’s got too much pride to double team with anyone…

But after two weeks ago…I’m not going to assume anything about WvW. I’ve seen SBI disappear from WvW completely, after all. Maybe it’s a one off, but I haven’t been on SBI long enough to know that.

What I do know is that I spent multihour stretches on multiple days of that last SBI-YB-EBay match as the only tag on all four WvW maps, pulling 15-20 ppl behind me, during the EU Prime, trying to flip as many towers as possible and dodge 40-50 man blobs on every map. How that even happens when I’m someone who had zero stake in SBI’s league performance since my league rewards were tied to TC? I have honestly no idea…

Will what I have seen the last time this server faced YB matter this time around? No bloody clue either. I’ve never seen SBI actually fight Mag though, and well, I try to limit my consumption of Maguuma PvFs to a survivable amount, so…

So yeah, I guess I do just mostly flounder about and don’t really know anything, hee! Oh…except that YB is still as bad at pushing the Hills Lords’ Room choke as they’ve always been.

LOL…like anybody’s gonna assume we’re winning just a few hours into the match. That’s just silly!

Besides, until ANet changes its scoring, it’s the OCX, SEA and EU Prime fairweathers that are gonna matter.

Because we actually lost coverage the last two weeks. We got rid of the fairweathers…at least, we think we did. =S

Radioactive.1248:

Dang I wish we could fight Maguuma when they werent coming off gold league burn out. Wasn’t the same maguuma I remember from before. At least you guys got some good fights so I’m sure your guilds are sharp

Naw…Mag just thought they were gonna be Red again this week and put their mythical blobs that do not exist in there. =P

Jaxs.5830:

Caroline.4987:

…It’s 3 hours in? Why no PvF yet? =(

Caroline.4987:

I don’t remember how many seconds this skill takes to fire or whatever conditions that skill lays down. I just remember “push button to live” and “push button to kill”

I’ve farmed 200 more ranks now…and I still don’t remember it! =3

All I know…the buttons still work! #4everpug

…It’s 3 hours in? Why no PvF yet? =(

Cheloss.1453:

Hats off to the guild [RoT] long ago we did not have fights so

Thanks…Fun fights with all y’all. We are certainly appreciative that you and GODS and any other smaller FA guilds on the map never gave up trying to push on our 18-20 fellows by yourselves instead of blobbing multiple guilds together except where you had to work on something that really mattered like Hills or your spawn.

That’s proper guild pride there, not like certain other “guilds” that just hug each other all night long…

Oh yeah…to continue with my posts last night…

GODS GvG us plz!

Yeah…it’s weird. First reset we’ve had in a while where we weren’t behind on the first tick. =S

Neophyte.4985:

Good lord this is refreshing. I haven’t seen FA talk so much trash since our days burning the bandwagon servers (love ya DB <3). I missed that confidence. It went away when we started getting the clusterkitten that was tier 1. Here’s to hoping you come back to where you really belong. TC has missed its wife.

ykyk.2740:

Neophyte.4985:

TC has missed its wife.

oh snap

#MagSwag scare you guys away from your own thread already? =S Seriously, we spent all those gems to poke fun at and trash FA for ourselves alone, y’know! We run tagless, start using separate raid comms, change servers, and you guys are STILL stealing our fights…even if it’s only the Player vs Forum area…geez! Haha! j/k

You’ll have your turn with FA soon enough…and probly a crack at us too.

Seriously though, miss y’all! <3 the Toast.

We don’t have enough people on regularly to do that right now, sorry. =(

Like, we will hit 20+ some nights…but…yeah…it’s never a guarantee. Maybe after the holidays.

Drigan.7382:

HOPE, GvG you plz ?

What weekday? What time?

We’ll do a 15 v 15 in Sanctum, sure.

Addendum:

BOSS, GvG us plz?

You can even try that portal bomb again!

Atreidies.6257:

Abyss GvG us plz?

Although, the way your server mates have been so far …if we’re going to go ahead and be rude that way in that thread anyways…since people are running from half our full guild force…

CL GvG us plz?

CORE GvG us plz?

FTF GvG us plz?

Atreidies.6257:

Abyss GvG us plz?

How about you GvG a guild that does GvGs?

I already asked. =P

Remnants of Terror [RoT] is looking for a GvG in the Obsidian Sanctum of 15v15 with any guilds from FA or DB during the weekdays.

Now’s your chance to beat up on some former Tarnished Coasters at even numbers, all y’all, so come and get some! PM me or Obby Shards for further info. =3

Cinder.2056:

3. If you want to see us (YB) fight good, please go to your garrison, YBBL’s defenders want nothing more but a secure and well sieged borderland, they are not interested in fighting open field.

Wait…is this the garrison where I was spiking people on the inside of a gate from the outside under arrow cart fire?

The one where I got three ranks from an hour and a half last night from just standing outside with a quarter of my guild and repeatedly waving for more meat to come over?

If so, maybe we’ll be back tonight. It was an awesome farm!

Leave it up to Yak’s Bend to mistake a garrison whose outer walls are down as an open field, eh?

Johje Holan.4607:

I was thinking, is this the first actual upset that WvW has ever seen?

Naw, far from it…

SBI remembers its history…it’s got one of the most up and down performances of any server. =P

Oozo.7856:

Furiousbeard.7602:

YB and EB should be thanking FA for all the training we gave them before this match.

If it wasn’t for our constant pressure training, you may not have been able to slap the kitten out of SBI.

You are welcome!

Coming to Silver league has given us the opportunity to bring a taste of the upper tiers to the lower tiers. The result was many tears.

So, do all of the “upper tier” guilds lose to half their number while fighting outside their tower with siege support? Tears of laughter, maybe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0zbbklxCuw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atxCDhDZJSU

That would be Tier 2. Tier 1 guilds lose to a third their number quite regularly. The best ones lose to a fourth. Under siege support. =P

Yeah…it’s normal behavior for Tier 1. Did I ever tell you the time about the Blackgate griefer who dropped 14 of my Omegas off a cliff? =P You gotta run some deep purses if you wanna stay sane playing there.

And if you want to see a total upset to a league…well, there’s still always NA Gold. *cough*SoR*cough*

Zikory.6871:

akanibbles.6237:

T1? It doesn’t exists anymore. Gold, Silver, and Bronze.

Oh yeah? So all servers in gold league are on par with each other and there is no other way to measure a servers ranking system? What happens after week 7? Do tiers exist again?

Random matchups start again until the next season, and the next season won’t be at least until next year.