Guild Wars 2

Commander Name: [IRON] Kaargoth Bloodsteel (Yes, Big White Charr.)
Server: Desolation (99% of my time is spent in Borderlands)
Primary Tactics Used: Varies greatly depending on what numbers are available and what the current objective is. I focus on being aware of the map at all times (scouts) and reacting to opportunities when they arise. (macro-focussed)
Works alone or with other Commanders: Work together with all [IRON] commanders & every other commander willing to work with me/us.
Style of Commanding: Military Style (with democratic influences when there is time => you may ask why I am doing something when there is nothing important going on. No discussion tolerated when in combat.)
Way you communicate best: TS3 (open to everyone!), most of the time I will have someone relaying all important information in Team-/Mapchat (or do it myself).

Be sure all of Desolation is rooting for Blacktide to get into T1. We are actively focussing on keeping Arborstone down at the moment, to help you get into T1. We want to be matched up with you and are very much looking forward to it.

- Bloodsteel

Joriel.1530:

Wandred.4583:

I hope Anet saw this thread. And make some decisions about NA guild.

wat does NA guild had to do with this ram army? it was IRON who put it up

I think what he meant was that they should force EU players not to play at night, because obviously that is OP, only NA players should be allowed to play at night.

Wandred, have you maybe gotten a little to many hammers smashed onto your head in WvW lately?

gonna do it with golems tonight.

aww, yeah. i saw that video before, absolutely amazing.

Ivalice.3174:

So this is where all our tax money goes huh?

Actually, no.

I bought those from my own money, any rams placed by other people were placed without anyone asking for it. I placed 45 rams in total during this funny little activity, some of them got destroyed by raptors before they got built. (Also I never ask for donations, ever. I do understand why other commanders do, because it is quite expensive just playing WvW every day. I however do pretty well on the tradingpost, so I (luckily) do not have any gold-related problems right now.)

Thanks for the fun, and salute to the vizuna guys dancing with us on their spawn-stairs/in the ram-field.

Good night, it’s 5:46am here, time to go to bed.

- Bloodsteel

Both of these classes have quickness buffs, where they can finish you within (pretty much) half a second…

it’s really hard to actually proove ur from the server or not. implementing a system like that will take a while. only thing i can think of for now is this: have certain sub-forums only viewable by a certain user-group that has been confirmed by guild-leaders/officers. those in turn would have to send me some sort of ingame confirmation of them playing on deso.

I did think about implementing this straight away, but its just soooo much hassle that I have decided to push it back until we have a bit of a userbase to start with. Something like a deso-player-only area will definitely be implemented though! (its just gonna take time)

Here is the link: http://www.we-will-desolate.net

I know it’s still a little empty right now, I just set it up this morning.

It was time we got something like this.

I thought it was time we got our own community forums for Desolation.

Here you go: http://www.we-will-desolate.net

We took a fortified keep & a fortified tower (both fully upgraded) from VS yesterday. Using 7 alphas and 2 omegas. Nothing they could do to stop it even though there was defenders there. They even saw the golems beforehand because they scouted the road we portaled them over. Still nothing they could do about it. All gates went down in seconds, keep lords died in even fewer seconds, control pad was kept clear with spining golems. Done. Worth the money!

- Bloodsteel

As one of the IRON commanders from Deslation I have to say: It currently works great on our server. All commanders on a map just work with each other, most of us are on comms with each other every day, we know who does what best, we know who we can trust with specific tasks and so on. We coordinate our commanders in the guild to take shifts, we work of each other and everyone in the guild helps out with suggestions on our general strategy when there is some down-time where we just fortify or run supplies.

The best thing of all: People that are not in IRON or one of the allied guilds are now actually joining our v-com quite frequently. We try to relay all information abou what we are doing and also WHY we are doing it (as long as there is time to type this out) to everyone on /map or /team, so people learn tactics and adapt to similar situations more quickly in the future.

It works: We are very successfull in working together with other commanders, working with people not in the guild. The whole server has understood we need commanders and they have figured out that what IRON (and our allies) does works. The guild designates guild-officers, those officers (if they are WvW officers) then buy their commander-title (if they don’t have the gold to do so, they will be crowd funded by guildies). This is how it should be, no one becomes officer because he bought a commander title for himself.

I wouldn’t mind having other requirements for the commander-title as well, but I don’t thing its needed.

- Bloodsteel

I like it. I say bring it on, ANet!

It says WvW is a 24/7 battle. ANet lets any player play on any server. => Result. Done.

Thorvald.5432:

You cannot be realistic an expect language server to recruit US guilds.
This go both ways. Little reason for US to go on non-english server and Little reason for non-english to accept US players.

The solution cannot come players. That is just an unrealistic dream.

I personally fed up with this situation getting worst weeks by weeks.

ANet it is time for you to act and provide us solutions !
Stop letting players do the balance ! You know this cannot work on the long run.
At very least, you should state your point of view on the current situation

They did. You just need to read it.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Night-Capping-and-YOU/first

GreenGrin I really think you are spot on with what you are saying. Props to realizing this and (once again) bringing it to the attention of the community in such an objective way.

Centrix you are right in that people could have predicted this happening. You cannot however expect every player to predict this and in consequence move to an english speaking server straight away. It will take time for them to realize this and untill then servers like mine [Deso] will have the upper hand coverage-wise.

Oh by the way I for my part am German and I did play on Abbadons Mouth before transfering to Desolation about 5-6weeks ago. My main reason for transfering is that I prefer the international community and the experience of coordinating with people from all over the world.

I’m very happy to have made the transfer, but I did have the advantage of having lived in the UK for two years so I am able to speak English properly. Sadly (due to the horrible German school system) not every player from Germany will be able to just transfer to an international server.

For everyone who does however know basic English and wants to transfer: Just do it! People will understand what you want even if your English is not perfect (basically if you are able to understand this post you should be fine!). People are generally welcoming to German players (at least for me this was the case) and most importantly: playing this game with English communications will actually imrpove your English-skills!

Thanks for reading everyone and once again: Great OP GreenGrin!

- Bloodsteel

Whoever thinks these are overpriced needs to learn how to play the TP properly…

You guys crack me up.

jroekke.7210:

2 more points in rating and you’re tier1 next week Deso.

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups

it’s actually 3, if you look at the numbers to the right of the “,” but yeah, didn’t expect this to get THIS close…

its actually going to be exciting to see who we get, i don’t mind either tier, really.

It is definitely possible to get past the legendary defenders. Just activate [Endure Pain] as a warrior (example) at the right time and you can just run past them. Won’t do you any good, but its possible. If even more people did that at once I have no doubt quite a few would get through….. to just die inside. YAY!

Sabiz.2671:

oversees guilds like Ruin or Iron.

Just a quick reminder here… IRON is a european guild, most of our players are from the UK. We do have a few players from overseas but they represent less than 1% in our total numbers… ;-)

Just because quite a few of us like to stay up late and play all night when they can does not mean we’re from a different time-zone.

- Bloodsteel

Same.4687:

500 people per map

Last time I checked there was a limit of 166/map. Just sayin.

If you wait for a BORDERLAND que for longer than 20min, relogg. There seems to still be a flaw in the que system and other people get in much much quicker, so don’t be the guy that waits for 2h and logs off, to whine about long ques on the server.

If you wait for the ETERNAL que to pop, you may have to wait up to an hour on Desolation currently, but I have (at no time during day or night) been waiting over 30min to get into a BL or ETERNAL. (given I did not try it every 5mins, but I did do some testing the last days, just checking how long it took the que to pop every hour or so.)

Good way of checking if you have to relog: Speak to guildies or friends, ask them how long it took them to get in (in case they qued recently) if it’s taking you a much longer, relog.

:)

I play a warrior and have no problems competing with any ranged class.

Please tell me you’re not a glass-cannon?

- Bloodsteel

Vukanigia.5496:

I wish you luck in the future fights and to leave division two this week so we can have some healthy games.

I just ask from you not to spit on FS and our players as you don’t know how hard is to play under this condition. We are giving our best for several weeks now, constantly fighting the servers with 3rd shift. No matter how hard you try to minimize what we done we were always worthy opponents.

You said we whine on the forums, just stop for a second and take a deep breath, think about how do we feel in this situation and try to place in our position. Yes, people are angry and yes, people cry about night shift but we also work to improve our play style, to organize our guilds, to attract more people to join us. We don’t give up, its just not what we do and what we will do in the future.

So don’t make this harder for us then it is, don’t spam our recruiting post with trash talk about our community and language differences. Let us cover the 3rd shift for good of all WvW community in GW2.

Good luck vs French realms if you menage to get to d1.

Oh, but we DO realize! We were being night capped as well before RUIN joined forces with us!

We did night-shifts. I remember staying up all night with about 10-15 of my IRON guildies every night of the week, trying to take towers & keeps back, or to hold them in the first place. We succeeded quite a few times as well. Personally I played about 100h in that week, all of that in WvW. (I was on vacation, so that’s how I had the time to do it…) You would be surprised how much difference a small group of dedicated players (that don’t just give up after wiping a few times) can make at night.

Of course it’s impossible to compete with 24/7 servers if you don’t have 24/7 coverage yourself, but as has been said that issue will balance itself out in time.

Junkpile.7439:

Every server who play against ruin server should keep W3 completely empty at nights. Let’s see how long it takes until they quit or leave.

My god. You, sir, are pathetic.

- Bloodsteel

You guys are truly hilarious. Just learn how to play the tp, make your money there and buy whatever skin you want. Gambling for skins… You gotta be kitten me…

(But thanks for buying my 100stacks of the normal chests for 25c/ea that I bought 2 days before the prices skyrocketed for 2c/ea, happy to do that trade again anytime!)

Houdii.2563:

Because they play for a scoreboard, not for WvW. If you were playing for WvW then a fully enemy coloured map is exactly what you want to come home too, hours worth of action to be had. It’s the 1"why bother we won’t win" attitude that’s killing WvW, using off peak capping as the reason is stupid.

Why would you wanna limit WvW to certain time periods a day really? Wouldn’t having 24/7 action be the greatest thing for any PvP game? Right now the fixation on the scoreboard is what’s hurting things most of all, anyone who doesn’t realise this is a moron.

Orbs are another matter and have nothing to do with this topic, their buff is a stupid mechanic and needs to be changed regardless.

Eeexactly.

very good post Modeus. * clap *

- Bloodsteel

someone close this, quick! it’ll turn into a QQ thread of whiners & trolls.

No. Read my post properly please. I said “a few days back” how the hell would I report someone when I’m at work right now…

So please read before you post. Also if you killed them that would have given you a lot of time to make screenshots and even report them yourself.

I know for a fact RUIN does not condone exploiting at all and they would definitely kick these people straight away, but they will also need proof. So please, next time take screenshots or even fraps it. I think we all hate exploiters & hackers equally, so as soon as you see one, report them and take screenshots so the guilds they are in can kick them and properly shame them. (because we all know it does take Anet a while to ban these people…)

Also, once again: Please ALLWAYS read posts properly before replying to them… It makes a HUGE difference. ;-)

- Bloodsteel

EDIT: It wouldn’t let me quote, but this is related to “Ral.5326”’s post above.

EDIT2: please also note the player I reported a few days back was NOT a RUIN member.

Manta.7962:

I don’t like pointing the finger like this, but I don’t understand how this can happen in any other way.

We’re getting players getting into towers that still have their doors and walls up. “Mesmers” you all say, but this is happening on towers we’ve somehow kept for hours, and towers have no hidey holes like a garrison or a keep would have. I’ve seen this happen in sunnyhill (They just trash all of the defensive stuff) and I’ve heard other players saying it’s not the only time.

If there is some hack or exploit going on here, then suddenly the arguments against nightcappers becomes one against exploiters, and it would explain why Desolation seem to always have all three orbs.

You should be very cautious with accusations like that.

We report exploiters straight away as soon as we see them. I actually saw a Deso player exploit a few days back. He was inside a keep we were taking before we had the gates down. It didn’t even make a difference, because there was no opposition and we took it (breaking both gates down) anyway, but we still reported the player straight away.

If you see such things please try to get screenshots or even better videos of the players, so we can try to find out who they are and report them properly.

Concerning the orbs we have them because they haven’t been taken of us. I’m not sure if we even lost an orb at any point (because I sadly have to work), but I’m pretty sure there would be screenshots and videos if any orb was hacked in the last couple of days… (we will always take any orb at night anyways because we do not have opposition then… thats just how the game works right now)

- Bloodsteel

Hi guys, just passing through here. Wanted to let all of you BT guys know I’m actually looking forward to going up against you again (because that will be the case unless something crazy happens to Elona the next few days). I really liked fighting you guys and even though we caught some Xaoc guys glitching i will not hold it against you as nothing came of it and I know there will allways be some rotten fruit somewhere.

So have a nice (relaxing) rest of the week BT and I will see you on the battlefield next week.

- Bloodsteel

It’s true, I actually saw 2 RUIN guys on thursday and friday the talked-about week. They must have made the difference! Thanks guys.

This is an absolute farce and you (should) know it.

nope it doesn’t.

it helps but superior tactics/numbers/(individual-)skill is still far more important.

Also slightly wrong, CorliCorso. VS has lost most of its night presence. Arborstone is the [FR] server now that has a true 24/7 coverage. But you are right, it will be interesting once it happens. Next week should be Deso, FSP & BT indeed. Could also be pretty interesting IF FSP get their butthurt sorted out beforehand.

- Bloodsteel

Less butthurt more truth would suit you well, dear Syntax.

Oh and by the way here’s how to solve your problem: You can speak English. Join an [EU] server instead of a [DE]. It’s what I did (mainly because I actually prefer the English language to German) and I’m not missing the German servers a bit. It’s so much more fun to play with people from different countries, different cultures and (yes.) different time-zones.

Best regards,

the German who prefers English,

- Bloodsteel

What diplomacy skills? Have you not read the thread?

if you want to level quickly do PvE, period. (that includes doing dungeons, they pretty much give a level instantly the first time you do them…) It just is much quicker.

Did lvl 1-80 in 2 day in pve. wvw gets viable for leveling after lvl 70. before that pve is so so so so so much quicker. (and you get more rewards out of it as well….)

A thieves playstyle (moving around a lot, not moving in straight lines to a target, other stuff…) just do not fill the commander role though, yes they are hard to kill but they need to be confusing the enemy to really stay alive for a long time. As a commander what you want to be able to do is to actually physically lead your squad into the enemy forces and stay alive through that without having to completely withdraw from the fight in between to regen health. You wanna rush in, stay in there and stay alive. I would still rate classes to lead with in this order:

Guardian > Warrior > Ranger (god they can be tanky!) > Necro

Depends on how you play entirely. I don’t die much with my tanky-warrior. Also guardians are hard to kill when they actually try to just stay alive. Necros… mh. Yes they do have a high health-pool but the squishy armor brings them down…

Classic MajorKong right there ladies & gentlemen! That’ll be 1g each, don’t worry it’ll go directly into our very own golem-fund.

- Bloodsteel

pedrst.3127:

Genev.2450

Ask IRON on Desolation

Unfortunately everyone in my guild is employed and i’m not sure if you know but… real life comes before games. That’s how it works broseph.

So are most of my Guildies and myself. But we are a Hardcore-WvW guild and as such we coordinate who does nights. Everyone volunteers for it whenever they have the possibility to do it and we usually are able to field at least 20-30people on weeknights. (Which is more than enough to hold down an entire BL by ourselves at night.)

So please don’t go running around spreading rumors that all of IRON must be unemployed to be able to field a night-shift without having many players from overseas. (oh, yeah, we have a few americans and australians in the guild as well. about 5 in total, i think?)

Oh also: I’m sitting at work right now. I write guides, strategy handbooks and other stuff that can help the guild when I have some spare time at work to do it.

- Bloodsteel

Well thank you to everybody who made me money by buying loads of Chests on the TP!

takes about 30min without any food/xp boosters to get from 11 to 15 anyways? ^^

I don’t think FSP will have any chance against Blacktide in the morning, actually. ^^

But that aside I completely agree with Terrahero. Also I just have to say the fights of last week were a lot better compared to this week. The only “enemy” server I really still have to give credits to is Kodash for showing me how to properly defend a tower/keep. Man these guys are good defenders with small forces.

Other than that. I am not impressed with the “allmighty daytime crew” of FSP at all. Meh.

- Bloodsteel

IComeInPeace.1768:

Desolation server…

I have about 5 thiefs from JQ that are thinking of transfering to your server. Who are we….. Well all those videos you see of thiefs coppying our builds weve been using since day one. Thats us. Anycase, we want to get decent ques so we can all do our thing together and such. We 3 man lords, take on 3 times our sizes and win. Question 1. Is your que times good? Question 2. Even if losing do you guys continue to fight on, like get orbs etc.

BTW – If we come, I will be recruiting thiefs that want to put a hurt on anyone. We will work with you on tower,keep taking, zerg stalling, doing 10v1 s. etc.

Concerning the ques: Assuming you guys are from the US (as JQ is a US server I believe) you will be playing in our night-time mostly. We have RUIN running our nightshift now, meaning there are ques for EB at any given time during our night (your day). These ques are about 20-30minutes in average (so fairly short). There are no ques or only very short ques on any of the borderlands at any given time of the day. (Worst que I had within the last 3 weeks was 30min on a BL, 1h on EB and I did play WvW about 14h/day the last 3 weeks as I was on vacation…)

I have actually seen videos of you guys and would like to see you live. I think you will find Desolation to be a server that is being turned into one of the Tier1 contenders right now. We still have a lot of work to do to get there, but we are working on it and are confident we will succeed.

Concerning the current matchup: I expected the weekend to be exactly this, a hard fight pretty much all day & night. (Except for the morning, beause that is when Desolation lacks players…) We’ve had some good fights today and I can say that the servers in this tier are definitely a lot stronger in terms of coordination and overall player-coverage throughout the day than Blacktide & Augury Rock last week.

It’s going to be interesting to see how the week progresses, as Desolation usually starts playing properly on Mondays. For some weird reason we are weaker on weekends and stronger during the week.

-Bloodsteel

No we dont? ^^ People who only play EB may have, but that’s the same for all serves with high pop. The Borderlands do not have ques at night and the ques are at 10-15min (max) at daytime. The OP is just another whiner.

Oh, Hi Zorlak, you mighty Norn!

Right. Time to get the points back into our favour now!

-Bloodsteel

@Same: Just FYI, IRON is an EU guild and we capped all of FS-BL nontheless. What most surprises me is that every single one of our opponents seem to be either a glasscannon, or lvl1 scaled up or idk. Everything dies whenn I hit it twice, and I’m full-tank specced.

We pushed FS back multiple times having only half their numbers at severel stages and none of us actually died. I especially remember NUG dying very very quickly and then even leaving the BL all together (or staying in the spawn-area) as they realised they could not compete.

So far we had 2 good fights, 1 at Bay and 1 for the orb. The rest was just facerolling through enemy corpses. Thanks for the Badges anyways, I’m now only 3 short of my 500 (was 72 short before the reset).

- Bloodsteel

P.S.: It was also pretty fun actually downing about 5 FS players (&finishing 3) whilst holding the orb. (Even though I eventually was killed and the orb reset…)

Thanks for all the good fights today, Blacktide. I gotta go for now, but I’ll be back on later hoping to finally push you completely back. Didn’t see many french today, no idea where they are at. Mh.

- Bloodsteel