Guild Wars 2

Im going to have to adjust my sleeping schedule to the matchup. Need to be on earlier instead of staying up later… Meh.

Good night,

- Bloodsteel

MarzAttakz.9608:

Have you guys considered how the [IRON] and now [RUIN] Alliance is alienating other WvW players? I was at the first Mumble meeting that took place and I’m glad to see it bearing fruit but to be honest with you guys, you’re starting to sound like elitist pricks.

I’ll give kudos to you for doing a great job and stepping up but you may want to look at reaching out to more of the WvW population on the server in future.

Mumble? Wut? We don’t even use it? Does someome seriously still use Mumble? :-O

Please elaborate on the “elitist pricks”, because I really do not see what you are getting at?

Concerning reaching out to the other WvW population, remember this: We were the ones (this including all the other guilds who did this) fighting everyones battles the last two weeks and NO ONE was there when we reached out to them. This is the problem with Deso WvW population. As soon as we are not first in points everyone disappears into some whining hole and starts flaming about night-capping, orb-hacking, canadians, whatever the kitten else instead of fighting with us. So excuse me, but instead of reaching out to a population like that, I’d much rather rely on my guildies (and other guilds I know I work great with) to have my back when I rush head-first into an enemy zerg. Oh and by the way: We try our best to coordinate things on a dayly basis, and funny enough that works quite well! (Even though often commands are ignored, but we found a way to fix that. People who ignore commands run into the enemy alone, because all others DO listen to commands. They die, and either start whining why no one was there, or realise there may have a point to the command after all. If they start whining they will at some point leave WvW and if they realise commands are actually given for a reason, they will start following them.)

If we only win because of RUIN joining the server, why are we pretty much constantly first in (potential) points all day as well? Me don’t gets it. :-(

As one of the guys of IRON that is pulling all-nighters for 14days straight now, here is my stance on RUIN joining Deso:

I kittening love it. Thank god. I can actually go to sleep at normal times without losing all the money I spent on upgrades for keeps and towers. Yes, I still loose about 5g worth of upgrades each day, but I much prefer that to the 10-15g (each day or rather, night) I lost when playing against Arborstone.

To all the people whining about ques: As said before this is due to the broken mentality of most Deso players. As long as we win, we will have ques. This is in no way RUINs fault. Also: The Borderlands only have about a 10-15min que in the evening, and I LOVE that. Seriously. Here is the reasoning behind me, loving ques:

If there are no ques, anyone can get in, which means you get loads, and loads, and loads of randoms, which is fine, because random players are still better than no players at all.
If there are short ques people whithout any dedication to WvW will give up on getting in very quickly, which is perfect, because I really do not like people in WvW, farming nodes and mobs. Don’t get me wrong, it’s fine if nothing is going on and they are on the way anyways, but if there is a fight somewhere and you are needed there you go there and don’t stop to farm. So short ques keep the PvEers out. (mostly)
The only anoying thing are ques that are hours long, and so far that has not happend for any of the borderlands. So if you want to get into EB, and there is a que, why not jump into one of the Borderlands first, help out there whilst queing for EB? Oh by the way, thats what ANet said you SHOULD do. And it makes perfect sense! :-O Holy kitten!

TL;DR: Glad to have you, RUIN. Short ques are actually good for WvW.

- Bloodsteel

They also had people appearing out of nowhere. Sadly no fraps of that though. :-/

Oh they just woke up. They are trying to take some stuff back, and succeeded at first but are getting pushed hard now. AAAnyways, I’m heading to bed as I live in Europe and at this time my night-shift is over (due to extreme tiredness!).

It was fun fighting those guys though. They have numbers, some tactics, but they die like flies. I mean, seriously, I’m fully tank-specced & geared, and they seem to all be wearing lvl1 armour or something. Well.. Thanks for the 131 badges I got tonight I guess!

- Bloodsteel

I’m not a leader, but on behalf of the IRON night-crew I would like to say “Welcome RUIN”, as you guys give us an opportunity to actually sleep! Thank you!

Looking forward to working with you. Let’s get this party started!

- Bloodsteel

Well that just means from now on I can relax on night-shift-duty. I don’t mind that at all.

Meh. Meh. Meh. Meh. — Just wanted to say that whilst getting ready for the daily nightshift.

Oh and thanks to the guys from SFR who made taking that last tower in EB very hard yesterday. Was a lot of fun!

On behalf of all of us Deso’s, I would like to thank you Seafarers in [Dawns] (in your own Borderlands) that just got wiped for your kind donation of Badges. No really, thank you!

-Bloodsteel

just a hint: ever heard of server-time? yes, you can enable that! :-O HOLY kittenBALLS! :-O

Just by playing a lot of WvW and getting loads of badges you do not neccessarily become a great leader… of course you do not become a great leader by having 100g either, but this is not the right way of fixing the problem…

Oh and, yes, I do have >1000 badges…

-Bloodsteel

Hi guys, this it what it looks like to not be able to place an orb… for 15 minutes… twice…

Hi A-Net. There have been multiple reports of the individual doing this, there have been screeenshots of him, videos of him, and he is still breaking the WvWvW right now.

Go fix it. Now. If you cannot fix it right now at least BAN him RIGHT now, also you should think about a legal suit against him, as he is affecting your playerbase, which-in turn, may turn out to you loosing money… Just sayin…

- Bloodsteel

P.S.: by the way, just to make this clear. I am not blaming Kodash at all! This is one individual who is ruining everyones fun. So don’t hate on servers…

I want a spectator mode for the week of AS vs VS vs ? !

True. But in the long run servers will balance out. So “Keep Calm and Have Fun”.

Lightfall.6982:

Unfortunately i have taken a break from WvW since last tuessday as i was levelling a mesmer to 80 (which i completed last night). That is who i am going to play in WvW, but i do need to gear it. I also need to fins a decent guild for WvW or join/create a Night one. Although i think there are so many small guilds atm, it would be counterproductive to make one.

http://tri-gw2.com … just a hint. ;-)

Zid.4196:

As far as I know, IRON has declared a PvE week for its members, and there isn’t anyone left after recent transfers to stand up late at night for Desolation.

Your information is correct, we are mostly farming our gear at the moment (as in all of the guild should have full exotic gear next week…(yes, we are actively helping each other out there.))

However our core wvw-playerbase (me included) is still in wvw every single day and trying to keep things as organised as possible. We do manage it to a certain point, but we obviously do not have our full power available this week.

(Oh and before somebody says we are afraid of arbor or something, having this “casual-week” was decided long before we even knew who we were up against. ;-) )

We do try to get things organised in the Augury Rock Borderlands.

Our success can be measured by how we kept AH against a continuous attack by Arborstone yesterday evening starting at about 1am (GMT+1). Oh and we still had AH when I left for work today at 6am. That’s right. 5hours straight defending and we managed. I have no idea how things went afterwards, as I had to leave for work, but i would imagine we will have lost the keep eventually. It was an epic battle and great fun!

- Bloodsteel

Exactly what we are trying to do, nidwin. Well except for some people obviously. ;-)

Lightfall.6982:

I wasn’t defending night capper, but there is nothing anyone can do about it. Yes there is an advantage to night capping, a huge one, thats why people need to stop whining and actually work together as a server. Every server will have players that play late at night

THANK you!

Magnus, what you fail to understand is this:

1. We will not win this weeks WvWvW
2. it doesn’t matter a single bit if we win or not as long as it is fun to play and it is, because it is challenging and rewarding at the same time (at least if you play in an organised group, if you are not, well … you are making a mistake…)
3. Stop blaming “nightcapping” – again: it’s a valid tactic, it’s not worth any less than playing during the day — so if arbor can keep this up they deserve to win.
4. we need more organised wvw guilds on deso. so if players leave wvw this week because they are getting their kitten kicked, well let them, the puppy-zerg will come back once it is a different match up and we are winning again – thats the way it works… any devoted wvw player will keep playing wvw no matter if we are loosing or winning. if anything this decline in players just shows how much desolation lacks dedicated wvw players at the moment (except for a few small guilds and IRON as the big guild (there may be more i don’t know about, as i am playing exclusively on augury rock borderlands…)
5. it is not at all macho-man-behavior by me, it is my point of view on these things. i personally enjoy playing organised wvw. if people who do not share that passion leave wvw and clear up more space for guildies to get in without que that is absolutely fine by me as i can communicate with them and trust them to do what is necessary.
6. in all of this let me also say that the people that are not in our wvw guilds and still keep playing wvw really have become a lot better at communicating and working as a team, so props to all of you who are making a real effort.

once again: the zerg will come back once the next matchup starts next week.

- Bloodsteel

Wothan.4673:

AlienMagi.7102:

As we know arborstone is populated by both french from europe and canadian french making the server active 24/7 since they’re constantly at peak hours..

Hum ? it’s no more VS the official “canadian” serv ?

If every time you lose it’s because “omg they have canadian!!” the problem does not come from us….

Don’t worry about the whiners… seriously. Keep doing your thing, you are beating us fair and square and that is absolutely fine.

MagnusLL.8473:

In fact, let me show who is talking b.ll…t here.

AS advantage at 12:00 saturday, after first night-capping (18045 points on Deso):

http://imageshack.us/a/img145/6407/gwscreen2.jpg

AS advantage at 20:49 same day (18592):

http://imageshack.us/a/img17/7239/gwscreen.jpg

AS advantage at 22:13 (19157):

http://imageshack.us/a/img600/3635/gwscreen3.jpg

AS advantage at 2:06 AM Sunday, nightcapping phenomen restarted (20411):

http://imageshack.us/a/img528/5773/gwscreen4.jpg

From that point onward, Desolation number steeply declined and the game snowballed as usual.

Make no mistake, AS would be winning this match even without night capping, but the difference would be very, very small. Certainly nothing like “total domination”.

“Nightcapping” is a valid tactic, they are organised enough to execute it well. They thereby deserve the points they are getting.

Stop your whining after you now grabbed some cheese i will be offering here* or leave the server entirely. We do not need people like you that kitten about everything. It is anoying and childish

• Cheese for you? Here you go! hands out chunks of cheese

- Bloodsteel

Glor.2485:

You couldn’t handle true competition, so you ran away, good for you

Yup, thats EXACTLY what we need the other kittens to do and it will increase the overall performance of desolation drastically! So if you want to whine, just leave Deso. We do not like your whining.

- Bloodsteel

How about everyone who doesn’t have the balls to face a stronger oponent just transfers away from Desolation? The server would gain so much from that… C’mon, do it! It’s still free at the moment!

- Bloodsteel

It’s not only numbers MagnusLL. It’s huge numbers at any time of the day that are actually also organised! And that’s an impressive feat!

I have huge respect for Arborstone right now, really. And I love the challenge of playing (mostly defending) against them. It’s hard. But rewarding!

What Laurs said is exactly what is going to happen. very much looking forward to it, but it’s still fun right now. it’s very demanding and it’s such a huge achievement to actually cap some big points and keep them at the moment. IRON get’s it done though!

- Bloodsteel

Oh yes, Arborstone is making an impression on us right now… They are destroing us beyond repair. It is absolutely insane.

However I don’t mind. I like the challenge even though I know we are (at some point) going to loose our keeps and towers during the night.

Example: We defended AH (Ascalion Hills) on the Augury Rock Borderlands against a massive attack by Arborstone yesterday. The attacks started around 1am and we hadn’t lost AH by the time I went to go to work today (which was 6am this morning, and yes I am currently at work, without having slept a second last night). This means 5 hours straight of defending, tactical play, ambushes, awesome defence on our part and great, great coordinated offense (hats off to Arborstone!) by them…

I currently do not know if we eventually lost the keep, but MY GOD it was entertaining… I planned to go to bed around midnight but just couldn’t. So much adrenaline. So much fun… Loved it.

So here is to all the whiners: Grow some BALLS! “Nightcapping” is a valid tactic. Deal with it. Get organised. And stop kittening caring about the scores THAT much.

Once again, hats off to Arborstone, you guys are an impressive example of coordination and effectiveness. (Even though I havn’t been bested by anyone from your server in a 1v1 yet, but thats not what WvWvW is about… So yeah, impressive stuff, keep it up, looking forward to tonight!)

- Bloodsteel

to all those guys complaining about the survivor monthly being broken:

it isnt. i got it yesterday within 5minutes of the reset… yes, the complete one. no, no crafting involved. yes, i was in wvw, yes i killed loads of people whilst hitting them with various siege weapons… yes, i also got defender exp twice… what’s the problem?

i’m also pretty sure i will get the rest of the monthly done today. i’d actually prefer it to be a weekly, its just far too easy to get all of these. i got the ones for august & september each in about 3 days… :-/

and also: yes, i do have a full-time job and a social life…

My previous post was directed @Snort.

@Raoh:

Well fair enough, still doesn’t explain why GH and AR players were standing next to each other without attacking (I think people have screenshos of it even… not sure, I certainly have not got them here at work… ^^)

Well anyways I’m getting bored of talking about this topic. Just as I am bored of talking about “night-capping”, wvw aparently being boring, “prime-time”, and so on… So much whines on the forums, I guess its normal though…

I’m now actually gonna just go home from work and I will see you in game later. (Maybe, and I won’t greet you there, as you are the ENEMY! ROAR!)

- Bloodsteel

Nice Pun.

However I don’t see how they are complaining about anything? They are merely taunting from how I read it?

Also: I dislike the idea of an alliance to target one server. I am however all for trying to get the ORB of each individual Borderland for your server, as that buffs everyone by so much it is actually worth it. If you can then do it cleverly enough to get the 2 servers fighting while you go and grab it, (either from the reset-point or an enemy keep or wherever it is…), fair enough.

Actually we did this yesterday in the late afternoon, when we took Redbriar and attacked AR in Bay, then fell back. They followed us and then fought with GH at their spawn area. We in the mean time had a small foce watching this from Redbriar, whilst the others took the orb and brought it into our keep. It was a good feeling seeing this plan succeed.

Again, only talking about the AR Borderlands here, as people seem to keep confusing it…

- Bloodsteel

Just to get this straight.

Neither Desolation nor IRON are complaining about an alliance (i’m also getting tired to tell ppl that from our point of view AR and GH were clearly working together that night, if they weren’t – well then they seem to be blind (as they stood right next to each other… but enough of that))

We also never said this “alliance” (i’m just gonna call it that for now, please dont get all “we don’t have an alliance” about it…) was still going. It looked like it was on tuesday evening/night, and that’s it.

I personally really enjoyed tuesday evening, it was very challenging and really brought out the best teamwork we’ve had on desolation in a while. (Even though that has been getting better and better in the past week anyways.)

Also again: Please take any more “agressive” (if you want to call it that) posts I did/do as pure trash-talking, which – I think – should happen. (A reasonable amount, and not with the aim of hurting anyones feelings…) Allrighty, everyone happy? Okay then, let’s get back to smashing our skulls together my hammer and I are ready! (I just need to get home from work…) ;-)

In Europe alone there are 4 differtent Timezones.

Add Oceanic and other players from further away (that are allowed to play on the servers, as they are international!) to this and you will have a big problem defining a common prime-time.

There is a primetime for each and every timezone and if all servers had an evenly matched playerbase this would not be an issue in the first place. However this will not happen.

The way I think about it. Take some cheese, wait for the ranking to balance out and automatically be matched against servers that are (more or less) equally strong.

Cayden.4587:

However i should add that when I was in Iraq we did shifts and ya I slept through the night. There was minimal guards and no large extremist force swept in and killing us and taking over our base because they were asleep too…. They also thankfully didn’t magically teleport from around the world where eit was the middle of the day and attack us at night either.

Right, point taken. (Also: Lucky you for not being attacked!) However if you WOULD have been attacked in the night, be it by a small or big force your guards would have woken you and you would have fought…

… Which is exactly what we in IRON do in this game. (yeah, we call each other if we are being attacked, and people actually get up and defend our keep/tower/whatever…)

Also: No of course you can’t compare it to real war. (As in you are not fighting for your or somebody elses life… THANK GOD!) However the concept of WvW is very, very simmilar.

Let’s look at why there are points in WvW. Why do we even need points?

One reason: To determine who has held strategic points the longest. The longest. Not the longest during the day, or during the night.

Allright so we have established that you can in fact hold points over night, if you are determined enough. If you mind being “nightcapped” you can do something about it. If you are just playing casually and don’t have the time or don’t have the determination to do this, well stop crying.

Concerning bigger servers being stronger than smaller servers. Yeah, obviously they are. Thats why there is a ranking system to even that out…

Oh and by the way: it’s not like the servers in the top tier get given any special bonusses or something. The ranking system should probably be reworked to not show ranks, but only current matchups. People get way to psyched trying to get to the top spot. There’s nothing in it for you… (except for longer cue times during the day…)

Preacher.9018:

hunTShoo.1247:

lol whats this?

what kind of ranking is this?

PvP ranking. In opposite to PvE ranking in official topic.

Your data is inaccurate and you should feel inaccurate…

Seriously dude, you can’t possibly take screenshots and a self-defined “primetime” and say “allright these are the statistics”. They aren’t statistics, they are presumtions. And they are way, way, way, way off…

Gray, you were not there, so how can you even say that? ^^

Anyways it sure looked like an alliance allright, with members of both of your servers standing right next to each other not attacking n stuff. Well anyways, we got challenged and won. Fine by me.

I will elaborate:

If a server has a strong period in the morning or afternoon they may still have a lot of capped points in the beginning of the evening, which aparently is defined as primetime. (Which is utterly stupid anyways, primetime is when there is the most players, so look at the graphs and see when each individual servers prime time is, then combine them and you will see yours is plain wrong…) Right so anyways:

If a server still holds a lot of points in the early evening, at the beginning of your so-called “prime time” it does not mean they still hold them an hour later. Proving stuff with screenshots is therefore pointless, as it does NOT represent the servers performance in primetime AT ALL. You can also not judge it by the potential points at any given time, as those are not the actual points given at the next point tally, but the ones that COULD be given IF the respective points are claimed in time…

So there simply is no way to judge the strength of servers in such a small window of time. (That’s exactly why matches last longer than 4 hours…)

ALSO: STOP kitten DISCRIMINATING AGAINST PLAYERS WHO PLAY AT NIGHT (/rage). There are people that just CANNOT play at any other time during each day (day being the 24h period of time, not time of daylight here). So by saying this is a better representation of each servers strength you are basically excluding those players from counting to the servers strength. Meaning you are saying. “Nah, you guys don’t count.” Thats a kind of discrimination. I am not sure if ANet is going to tolerate it here for discussions sake, but if I WAS them I wouldn’t.

And no, I am not one of the players online at night, as I live in Germany and have to work from 7am-5pm each day. But I still think each and every player should be respected, no matter at what time of the day they can play or want to play…

(Also: I guessyou don’t intend to seem so whiny, but you still come across like a bunch of kindergarten-kids who lost their teddy…. seriously, grow a pair…)

- Bloodsteel

Rebound, go do sPvP. You will have all lvl80s with you with good gear. (I promise!)

Yup. In a real war they don’t just all go to bed and say: “everything from this point on doesnt count!”. Thats just now how it works.

And no, it’s not leeching. Leeching would be getting something (exp, karma, gold) without doing anything. People going around at night capping or defending stuff still do something so they play. Get your facts straigt.

Oh and: No, I am not playing at night, I have work but I can also see there is people that just cannot play in the primetime. Also some people that could play primetime but also can play night times deliberately play at night for no cue-times.

It’s
a) reasonable
b) a part of the game
c) easy to defend your kitten during the night as there arent MASSIVE zergs going around.

My guild defended our keep through 3 nights straight with only 2-5 defenders each night. No problem whatsoever.

They are fine as they are. If you do not see that: Here have some cheese with your whine.

so you want to punish players that can only play at night because they have to work in shifts?

@sooty: go watch ANet’s videos on game design.
Do it

Hammer & Mace/Shield (+ Warhorn for extra swiftness when I’m running supplies or speeding up dolyaks ‘n’ kitten (so for non-fights))

Combine that with a very tanky build (I myself run the tank-build with healing shouts and runes of the soldier) and you will survive pretty much anything whilst CCing the living kitten out of your enemies. And as every PvP (and WvW is still pvp) player knows: CC is everything, especially if you have about 7 seconds stunlock for a single target, including 2 seconds of aoe stun (hammer burst ability).

obviously you won’t be chunking out the amount of damage of a glass-cannon, but you wont die, and can still take pretty much any class in a 1v1. I have won up to a 1v6 playing this build and weapon-choice (however that was against some very bad players). realistic win & survive chance with mediocre-good opponents:

number of opponents —- winnable —- survivable
1 —- yes —- yes
2 —- yes —- yes
3 —- yes —- yes
4 —- meh —- yes
5 —- no —- yes
6 —- no —- yes
…
15 —- no —- meh
16 —- no —- no

this may not be accurate for you, as it still depends somewhat on gear, playstyle and skill. I’d say I’m a reasonably skilled player, but I aint anywhere near as good as some other people I know. My strong points are tactics, knowledge of when to strike and when to get mykitten out of there, and teamwork.

(You will NEED to work in a team for this build to really kick in! You can tank the damage, protect, buff and heal your allies (also remove their conditions) whilst at the same time ccing your enemies.)

In short: its kittening awesome!

Defend your kitten properly and you can get rid of any amount of golems no problem.

Don’t cry “exploit” everytime you get outsmarted or outplayed. Your defense obviously was bad, and you should feel bad.

To clear up my point of view: Why the HELL would that be an exploit. Makes no sense whatsoever.

@OmegaAngel: you can’t compare the two situations. that exploit gave SOME people a personal gain, and it was obvious it was a bug. they abused it and got banned. simple as that. anyone can use mesmer portals with golems. so you can maybe say its imbalanced and needs change, but its definitely not an exploit. (i’m obviously not an ANet employee, but this is the way I see it and it seems to be pretty crystal clear to me…)

They ARE a double edged sword.

They give you a bonus but people tend to attack the keeps they are in more than they normally would. (And sometimes the other 2 servers will team up (on purpose or by accident) to get that keep down.

So I have no Idea what you are talking about. If you DON’T see this on your server, maybe you shouldn’t blame the system, but the players?

Right guys, just to clear up where I was coming from in my previous post:

If I write anything about WvW it’s allways related to the Borderlands my guild is playing on. In this case it’s the Augury Rock Borderlands.

As I am exclusively playing on that map I have no insight whatsoever (except from what I read here, or in some other forums) how things are going in other Borderlands or in the EB.

So if I write I was seeing a working alliance of AR and GH that is ONLY directed at players on that Augury Rock Borderlands.

Right, having cleared that up here’s to the ThUn guys:

We had fun killing you lots this week so far. I do not recall us, as a organised guild, ever loosing a single fight against you, so feel free to brag about a won defense against a puppy zerg.

About Nightcapping: I personally don’t see what should possibly be wrong with it. If people have the determination to stay up that long, or even can only play in that time, they should be allowed to play at that time. What I don’t like is an active recruiting of players only open to night-active players. I think players should be recruited based on their skill, knowledge of what they are doing, behaviour and general will to improve on what they allready know. (However I on my part have not seen anyone exclusively recruit night-players. As stated before I can only speak for IRON here, as I know for a fact we only recruit members on those above principles, the most important one being the willingness to learn and play as a team. The players in our guild that DO play at night times are either determined players, trying to hold our keep(s) & tower(s) or players that just cannot play during the day due to shift-work or other reasons.)

@Alystene: what are you talking about “before the release”? The game is allready released, you know that right?

@everyone: Just to clear this up once and for all. I’m mostly trash-talking here. I like a heated athmosphere when a kittening (i wrote kittening myself, to save the profanity-filter the trouble) war is going on! However if i were to meet any of you on the street I’d still be perfectly nice to you. (Unless you look at me funny, I’d hammer you right down with my number 5 skill, awww yeah! (Obviously a joke. (Or is it? (Yes, it is, really…))))

One more thing concerning the guys that obviously think you go up if you win a tier and go down when you loose a tier: Thats not how it works!

You can jump tiers up and down, you can stay in the same tier and so on. It’s purely determined by the overall points you have. So for example if Riverside was to loose their top-tier match but still get enough points to stay ahead of whoever is going to win our match they would stay in the top-tier regardless.

Right, now I would really like to see the current WvW map (if anyone would be so kind to post a current screenshot here), as I am currently at work and have no way of knowing how things are going.

- Bloodsteel

We from IRON have some very dedicated members who are living in the EU and still stay up all night, mostly defending our keep, but also capping if they are in a situation to do so.

As far as I know there are no guilds in the Augury Rock BL (which we exclusively play on) who are not from the EU. (Or maybe I just have yet to encounter them.)

As stated before, we on hour part just have a group of very dedicated players who decided to take turns at defending our keep.

- Bloodsteel

I personally took out 2 catapults and some other siege yesterday evening, when you guys were trying to cap AH in the Augury Rock borderlands…

numbers aren’t everything. you guys were a group of 30 or more protecting the siege and i managed to kill it on my own. so just a suggestion: l2p first. and then feel free to try again. got it? allrighty!

except for that though I personally am pleased your servers teamed up! (that alliance is still going, right?) because your sheer numbers FINALLY give us some sort of a challenge.

oh and please stop face-rubbing the gates and walls. that “tactic” is just embarassing for your servers, respectively. (and yes, you all do it.)

(to those who don’t know what face-rubbing is: it describes the attempt to break down a gate or wall with sheer numbers, without any coordination or siege equipment.)

one more thing: if, IF, one of your servers were to actually get in the lead we will not be available for any server-server alliances. once you guys break your alliance (or has it allready happened? I’m at work right now and have no intel on the current status of your alliance) Desolation will be making your WvW-“lives” very miserable indeed. And – as you seem to still not have organized your facerubbing zerglings – that might end in you not having much map-controll all day and all night… Just… as BS likes to say… Wait For It…

- Bloodsteel

Chewbiduhwa.9756:

I hope when the French log on and find everything GONE. They realize that we can also night cap everything as it is not hard. I would like to say special thanks to all Desolation players that has helped myself grow as a commander, helped my guild bond, and to SHC,AA,YuM and to those who feel i should have mentioned you and i haven’t thanks to you guys to.

I look forward to taking IRON to the next level and break down more barriers with Desolation. Thanks again and love you all.

CyanideStar.

IRON all the way!

So I take it you made it through the night then! Hows “our” Borderlands doing? I really wish there was an hourly overview available at the website. :-/ I need to know what I’m coming home to tonight!

- Bloodsteel

It’s called a nightzerg…