Guild Wars 2

Rhyse.8176:

No character should ever build as a glass cannon, ele or otherwise. It doesn’t work well in gw2 because each player must have a certain level of indepence. The question is the proportion of DPS/Tank, not the presence or absence of them.

Are you crazy? My glass cannon build wrecks people. I can 2v1/3v1 and drop them all before I drop.

I spec for glass cannon and use D/D. Lightening whip and the fire tree can burn those crowds down fast. You just need to be on your A game for dodging

@Selo
30/30/0/0/10 + berserker gear + jewelry w/ ruby orbs + fire signet + sup sigil of accuracy.
The game doesn’t add the +5% crit chance from the sigil. I have no idea how he managed the 103% crit damage though.

@Krabpeople
curry butternut squash soup is +100 percision 10% crit damage. It costs about 2.5 silver each.

pfft, I just use sigil of accuracy and sigil of fire

Karl McLain.5604:

We do have some improvements in mind for the elementalist’s main-hand dagger, along with reworking the downed state a bit. Keep in mind that you might not see this for a bit, but it is in the works.

ETA?

Punny.9210:

I feel bad for Twin and all night crew in Db.

they fought hard no matter what happens unlike those Na Db.

all they do is just whining on all the forums …..

First off, I don’t whine…I troll.
Second, I fought my kitten off in garrison thursday night. We had FA on the north east door and BG on the north west door the entire time. Both sides pushed into the inner keep 4+ times and each time we beat them back. I don’t know about the rest of the nancy boys on DB but my guildies and I fought hard until 10pm PST. The only reason we stopped was because sleep for work > game.

~Some DB guy

how about a timer longer than 15 seconds:?

Dev team lead “ kitten it men and woman! (sense we all work in unisex enviroments). We made elementalists squishy and weak! It looks like they have found an exploit where they can last longer than 8 seconds in pvp! We must nerf this! Also, we will be talking about adding addition slots for thieves to have the ability to switch armor in combat. Two sets of armor can be equipt and they will pull the bonuses from both sets at once. That will teach those elementalists to lay down and take it like a roofie filled prom date….”

This is like playing my shaman in warhammer all over again. QQ

You can always tell what classes are OP after launch because more and more of them pop up.

I rarely use fire 2, Fire 5 pisses me off with how much it misses. I only use ice2 to heal myself.

Keripo.6842:

Kaine.3501:

guilds run WvW on BG like it is a dictatorship.

we all know Choco lead hundreds to their deaths….we also know that as soon as all those people died Choco logged off.

When Blackgate called in for Europe’s support and Europe sent in forces to Blackgate that we havent seen since WW2

when the largest FA guild jumped ship and spit in my face by joining the evil empire Blackgate

I did it so that I could type a post about my experiences on Kaineng and hopefully convince some people to transfer there.

I love stories! Here’s mine:

I went home one day and made a peanut butter sandwich with jelly on top. It was delicious. It was so delicious that I want to make a thread about it and share my personal experience with everyone such that all the other servers would find out how great a peanut butter and jelly sandwich Blackgate can make. Turned out that others disagreed and made fun of my peanut butter and jelly sandwich, so I went back into the kitchen to cut some onions. The end.

~Valkyrja Flame [RQ]

I loved the part about the jelly!

Looria.8019:

Meet Looria the Evasive
My little killing machine

what set is that?

Oh it’s not that at all. I just think you’re simple

I just wish earth 3 wouldn’t miss so often.

^I have 12.5k and my combat thought is “kill them before they can kill me.”

When did you have a good name?

+5% more damage if target is burning, +5% damage on his staff. +fury/might stacks.

sure it does, if he uses runes that add more crit damage. I run runes of scholar, he could be running runes of divinity. 6-8k more damage for my build is just a rune runestone swaps away.

I 100% agree. I ran into this as a healer in warhammer.

30 fire, 20 lightning, 20 arcana.
Fire traits- 10% fire damage, 30% chance to burn on crit., 15% faster recharge of weapon skills
Lightning traits- 20% more damage to foes less that 25% – 10% more damage from lightning
Arcana- Attunment you get X buffs, at 25% health you gain arcane shield

cantrips- Mist form, arcana blast, lightening teleport/fire signet for more % to crit.

Stack power, percision, crit damage. Eat crit damage/perc food.

I have 3400ish attack and 61% to crit. I also have a sigil that has a 30% chance to proc and AOE on crit.

Were you upscaled? I smash level 80s for 4kish non crit and 5-6k crit. Upscales I do a crap load more to.

Kam.8109:

Eicherjw.3926:

Just let this dumb thread die in peace.

Yes we need to make room for more important threads like….

Lemme look at the other thread titles….

Hmm…. still looking for a better one….

This may take a while

Gotcha, so basically what you’re saying is that you’re 12. Ok. Thanks for clearing that up.

Can a Mod please close this thread?

30 fire, 20 lightning, 20 arcana.
Fire traits- 10% fire damage, 30% chance to burn on crit., 15% faster recharge of weapon skills
Lightning traits- 20% more damage to foes less that 25% – 10% more damage from lightning
Arcana- Attunment you get X buffs, at 25% health you gain arcane shield

cantrips- Mist form, arcana blast, lightening teleport/fire signet for more % to crit.

Stack power, percision, crit damage. Eat crit damage/perc food.

Be D/D. RTL→ lightning 2 → updraft → Switch to fire attunment → burning speed → ring of fire → fire grab → Arcana wave → switch to earth attunment → earth 2 → earth 4 →earth 5. Rinse, repeat.

I usally don’t pop arcana wave unless I’m in myst form waiting for my heal button to come back.

For Staff I keep the same build but switch cantrips to mist form, cleansing fire, fire signet.

^seconded (stupid 15 character posting)

Rooen.5317:

I still don’t understand why people believe Ele’s are so underpowered. For once the mage class isn’t over OP and people go nuts over it. They are a little bugged yes but so are other classes. It for chain and stack right you’ll be just fine. Let’s not forget there is a dodge in this game too don’t just stand and try and smack things….dodge spells for a reason! They are great team/party players with pretty nifty heals. Just play around with different spells and find what works best for you. Try and unlock all the spells for all the sets and you’ll have a good time.

Eicherjw.3926:

Tip- Reroll thief

Why…would you come into a class forum just to tell someone to re-roll a different class?

Because….I have an 80 elementalist?

Kam.8109:

They’re bashing back. Yeah. He made a mistake. Now he’s paying for it.

Idiots will be idiots and trolls will be trolls. Who gives a flying kitten what this guy said? Just let this dumb thread die in peace.

I use burning speed then RoF

I also dont understand the kittens that post stuff 10silver under the lowest price. That really annoys me

Remember, Zerg mob events + AOE damage = faster leveling.

Elementalists are hard to master, most consider them broken. They don’t do a ton of burst for how squishy they are. Thiefs on the other hand do a crap load of burst for their squishyness.

Tip- Reroll thief

kripp keeper.1247:

Eicherjw.3926:

kripp keeper.1247:

Luterin.9876:

kripp keeper.1247:

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The problem is trying to get people to stand still in a meteor shower or churning earth.

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Currently all of our damage means nothing when our big damage skills are so easily avoided.

It’s you that let the players avoid the spell. Think outside of the box…

First off, stop double posting.

Second, you have no idea if its my fault or not. I believe you made a comment about another poster “making a fool of himself”, how about you don’t do that.

I didn’t say our attacks never hit. I said they are easy to avoid. Even if we root a player they can break out of it and just walk away. I have to cast for 5 seconds to get churning earth off. As an elementalist that is a long time to stand still and stay alive.

Third, if you have nothing productive to say, and your only response is “L2P”, then I’m not sure why you are posting on this thread. We are trying to answer a question asked about why ele’s whine. Regardless of if its a joke question or not, we felt it was a good chance to explain why.

Lastly, screen shots of WvWvW dagger damage(against level 80s).

I call BS on the 10k hit. The person was either upscaled or in the down state.

I consistently hit 10k with churning. It’s not hard with full crit gear.

I use combos, and understand how they work. That does not stop people from moving out of the skill, or just using a KB on you. You also factor in that in WvWvW not all fights are 1on1 so others can come up and stop you as well. I do agree that most the time I see ele’s they are just standing there casting one spell not even moving, but that doesn’t negate the fact that we cant take any damage, and our big skills are easily avoided.

As far as Spvp it really is a waste of time as a ele unless you have a good group, and even then you are going to be more support then the real fighting force.

I stack power, crit, and crit damage. All exotics + crit food/crit damage food. I also use combos and understand how they work. I still only break 9K damage with CE on upscaled players or 80s in the downed state. Now fire grab I can crit an 80 player for 10-15k. I suppose if you’re fire/lightning/earth specced a 10k hit with CE on an 80 not in the downed state might happen.

I used SPVP to fine tune my rotation. I gank groups of 2-4ppl in SPVP the same way I do in WvW.

^Lulz…………..

It’s cool, I made my riches off runes of undead, runes of the pirate, runes of the scholar, and runes of the mesmer before the market crash. I’m curious is arena net is going to give us a stimulus package….

But a crystal lodestone sells for 1g 30ish silver. Rune of the mesmer’s have been flooded on the trading post and now sell for 1G 15silver. Goss + lodestone = 1g 37ish silver to make, then you resell it at 1G 15silver – auction house fees? That just confuses the crap out of me.

What I don’t understand is how rune of the mesmer and rune of the scholar are now worth less than the mats used to create them?

If a target is low I’ll RTL to them, cast lightning 2, then finish them off with LW. That’s about the only time outside of PVE when I use it.

But wouldn’t it be cool if we could run at 60% run speed without swiftness?

kripp keeper.1247:

Luterin.9876:

kripp keeper.1247:

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The problem is trying to get people to stand still in a meteor shower or churning earth.

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Currently all of our damage means nothing when our big damage skills are so easily avoided.

It’s you that let the players avoid the spell. Think outside of the box…

First off, stop double posting.

Second, you have no idea if its my fault or not. I believe you made a comment about another poster “making a fool of himself”, how about you don’t do that.

I didn’t say our attacks never hit. I said they are easy to avoid. Even if we root a player they can break out of it and just walk away. I have to cast for 5 seconds to get churning earth off. As an elementalist that is a long time to stand still and stay alive.

Third, if you have nothing productive to say, and your only response is “L2P”, then I’m not sure why you are posting on this thread. We are trying to answer a question asked about why ele’s whine. Regardless of if its a joke question or not, we felt it was a good chance to explain why.

Lastly, screen shots of WvWvW dagger damage(against level 80s).

I call BS on the 10k hit. The person was either upscaled or in the down state.

Dumbo.8167:

But you can only hit for 6k on one target…

Yea but if it’s more than one targe tI’m not going to sit there and just spam LW. I’m going to switch to fire, burning speed, ring of fire, flame burst, drakes breath, switch to earth and continue the rain down of pain.

I also noticed it misses a lot when stationary

LW double hits for 2k a pop on a target, so 4k total. Dragon’s claw, each “slice” hits for 2k, so 6k total. Fire 1 is not obsolete.

Oh, I love LW, i hits for 1500 and 2500 crit

The idea is to kill them before you need to dodge.

Roziel.5720:

@ Eicherjw:

Well that is ok if you don’t like that suggestion. Personally I find bleeds/burns with the scepter to be especially deadly especially in pve, but also in pvp. What do you prefer with your elementalist?

D/D with lots of power/per/crit dmg
I found waiting for S/D 2/3 to hit takes forever in pvp.

I have full berserkers with only 12k hp. I can kill DOT elementalists with just fire and lightning. RTL hits for 2k non crit, 4k crit. burning speed hits for 2kish non crit, 5k crit. Ring of fire is 2k non crit, 4k crit, fire grab is 4k non crit, 8k-15k crit. I can push that out in about 5 seconds.
I have 61% chance to crit with 89% crit damage.

Unless it’s completely flat terrain, i always get hung up. Weird thing is, if i just RTL to travel faster, i never get hung up. It’s always when I have someone targeted and RTL to them.

I enjoy D/D more than staff or scepter. However, while it looked like you could take a beating, you weren’t hitting those upscales for very much. I choose the glass cannon D/D build and I have yet to go 1v1 with another Ele and lose.

Anlyon.8375:

I laughed when people said D/D has the worse AoE.

It actually has the best, since its far more instant and deals more damage (total).
Lets look;
Drakes Breath – decent damage + burning AoE… amazing.
Burning Speed – AoE blast + short wall of Fire – amazing
Ring of Fire – AoE blast + wall of burning – amazing
Fire Grab – Small cone of high damage vs burning (see Drakes breath) – amazing.

What does S/ bring? long animations for slightly less damage.

Yes the ele needs a bit, but just a few bug fixes and a few traits re-worked and we’ll be fine.

Burning speed also causes burning. My rotation is RTL->Lightning skill 2->updraft->switch to fire->burning speed->ring of fire->fire grab->arcana wave if they are still alive after that I follow up with switch to earth->earth 4->earth2->earth 3->earth 5. If they are STILL alive after that then I reroll thief and delete my elementalist.

FYI, updraft throws you back the perfect distance from your target so when you hit burning speed, they are right in the damage sweet spot of it.