It’s also not balanced at all. Rangers can stomp block 1 person while guardians get an AOE stomp block. Mesmers are just OP with thier down skills while elementalists get a 3 second fog and a garbage attack spell.
Just give it a couple months, then we’ll be complaining about a new class being OP. Anet said they were going to change class builds to keep the game fresh so just give it time.
It’s not perma stealth, it’s stealthing with CnD then waiting for stealth to drop and re-stealthing with CnD. It could also be stealthing, hitting, shadow stepping, re-stealthing, repeat. The real problem is rendering which is what makes them appear to be insta stealthing.
If thiefs could unlock black lion chests then everyone would roll a thief and anet wouldn’t have a way to make money off those stuipd things. If they changed to a monthly subscription fee I’d agree with your arguement.
30/30/0/0/10 full zerkers + sharpening stones + food + bloodlust stacked to 25 (from my shortbow) + 5% damage and 5% crit chance on my daggers = 3,742 ATK, 71% chance to crit + 104% crit damage.
awesome! but if some one so much as releases a smelly one your way, you are dead.
I do not need to insta kill /insta die kind of specs, I like to outlast them, i have moderate dmg but high survivability
I actually have high survivability based off of play style. I don’t aerg dive unless it’s to dagger storm. I usally dodge a lot, C/D , blinding power, ect.
WvW is pve… its kitten… its not even up for discussion or balancing.
Anyone that played Ele for 300+ tournys will facewreck with optimized equip atleast 10+ exotic geared scrubs like they were geared in starter set.
90% of the players in WvW dont have a kitten clue how to play their class in a pvp setting.
Erm…fighting someone in an open field or fighting them in a battleground…pretty much the same thing. I don’t do sPvP much, but when I do, I drink Dos Equis…I mean, I do just as well as I do in WvW.
In fact…in a WvW skirmish, you are ONLY interested in killing, you are not interested in keeping people out of a circle, or staying in a circle. So in a way it is more pure.
You do realize that, unless you have some serious Vit/Toughness gear, you have no points traited into survivability, right? Of course you’re going to be squishy if you don’t trait/gear into survivability. I run Fire/Earth, with some points in water, and I do just fine. Elementalist is a lightly armored class, so you can’t expect them to have as much defense as say, a thief, because light armor gives less defense than medium armor. Elementalist also has a lot more available utility than thieves, such as vulnerability stacking in Water attunement with Daggers, so they probably aren’t going to dish out as high of a DPS as other classes.
that’s my arguement, Elementalists don’t do the damage for how squishy they are.
Every thief I have fought in WvW has been like paper mache…they go down REAL fast if you can hit them. Most thieves depend on stealth to be their defense.
I, on the other hand, can survive 1v3 for a good amount of time…I don’t really think that is squishy. I mean, I’m not a Guardian, but I am far from squishy. It’s all in how you spec. And remember, dead Elementalists do no damage, so I think it’s very advisable to put at least a respectable amount of points/gear in defense.
I’ve only ran into 1 elementalist that handed my thief his kitten The guy had full vit/tough pvp gear and was 0/0/30/10/30. Other than that guy, every ele since has been badge food. Thieves though, can spec glass cannon with great DPS results. elementalists cant.
You do realize that, unless you have some serious Vit/Toughness gear, you have no points traited into survivability, right? Of course you’re going to be squishy if you don’t trait/gear into survivability. I run Fire/Earth, with some points in water, and I do just fine. Elementalist is a lightly armored class, so you can’t expect them to have as much defense as say, a thief, because light armor gives less defense than medium armor. Elementalist also has a lot more available utility than thieves, such as vulnerability stacking in Water attunement with Daggers, so they probably aren’t going to dish out as high of a DPS as other classes.
that’s my arguement, Elementalists don’t do the damage for how squishy they are.
Yes, with the right build you can kick butt. However, out lasting your enemy and out damaging your enemy are two different things. IMO eles should be top of the damage tree and not forced to outlast the other classes by pecking away at their health until they die.
Also, thiefs have a trait that allows them to heal while stealthed. It’s pretty OP if you’re specced into shadow arts.
So they fixed a few things, the fact of the matter is that we still do sub par damage for how squishy we are. I took my elementalist off the shelf lastnight for WvW. His build is 10/30/0/0/30 with full exotics and 114% crit damage. I also stack might with combos why I do my rotation. Anyway, I RTL into a zerg, updraft, burning speed, dodge, ring of fire, earth quake, dodge, churning earth, earth spike, and then mist form out. I goto review my combat log to see damages…. My 80 thief with a similiar might stacking build does more AOE damage by spamming cluster bomb….
Hey, I spent 50 bucks on keys and got the scythe and some lame shoulders. I disagree with how anet changed the return rate on chest keys so you have to buy more. The gem to gold / gold to gem chart and exchange rates are also BS. However, i understand this is how anet makes their money.
I think previous MMOs, like WoW, have given players a false sense of entitlement. Just because you play the game and spend 20 bucks on gems doesn’t mean you deserve an epic or rare skin. Let me rewind time back to EQ1, it took people 6months to a year to get their epic weapons. This was because the week long spawn camping on monsters, rare item drops, and randomly spawning merchants. Just because blizzard use to hold you tight, whisper sweet things in your ear, and tell you “You’re right, have this epic gear to dry up those tears”, doesn’t mean every game producer is going to cater to your over nurtured needs.
I think previous MMOs, like WoW, have given players a false sense of entitlement. Just because you play the game and spend 20 bucks on gems doesn’t mean you deserve an epic or rare skin. Let me rewind time back to EQ1, it took people 6months to a year to get their epic weapons. This was because the week long spawn camping on monsters, rare item drops, and randomly spawning merchants. Just because blizzard use to hold you tight, whisper sweet things in your ear, and tell you “You’re right, have this epic gear to dry up those tears”, doesn’t mean every game producer is going to cater to your over nurtured needs.
So you lost an escape that really never should have been possible in the first place. Find a new one. I’ve been escaping zergs just fine without it.
It’s not that big of a deal.
Just because you never used something doesn’t mean it didn’t change game play for someone else when it was removed. I was trying to widen your view past yourself. Seems I failed.
I opened 57 of my 63 chests, it cost me 50 bucks in keys. I got the sycthe skin for staff (Goes great with my eles arah set) and some medium armor shoulders with bull skulls.
^ I disagree. I use RTL to escape enemy zergs near garrison all the time. I’d run to the cliffs, jump down to the mid cliffs then RTL across the gap to the plateau thus saving my bacon.
Well, if it’s my thief gank squad that consists of 3 thiefs,a guardian, and a necro I do the following. Have the necro AOE poison, guardian walls behind the zerg so they’re smushed between the gate and wall. 3 thiefs pop dagger storm the zerg in the poison cloud so you get wirlwind with poison bolts combo. If you start to drop, run back into keep. After the dagger storm, pop quickness for fast pegging. If that doesn’t work, hold them off with cluster bomb and wait for help.
Two WvWers walk into a bar. One is from Maguuma, and one is from SoS. The Bartender asks them what they want to drink.
The Maguuma man says “Give me a beer. Today has been hard. We fight endless battle against endless enemies. We know not fear, we shall not falter, and we don’t know when to quit. It wears us down, but not out. Tomorrow we pick up our swords again to fight the endless fight, and leave our mark on this world. Real victory is in the legacy you leave behind, not the land that soaks up that blood.”
The SoS man says “Give me a wine cooler. Strawberry.”
Need more be said? Come have a beer with Maguuma, and enjoy victory and legend being built. Don’t be the guy holding the wine cooler.
Beta weekends I would stack condition damage and was able to literally burn people down, fast. I can tell they nerfed the crap out of eles since beta. Burn condition build no longer has the power it use to along with burst damage build. In Spvp, during beta, I was a face stomping squshy ball of doom. Now I’m just a marshmellow that hits for sad damage.
PS: I also played a thief in beta and they were badly underpowered. It seems like eles and thiefs got thier damage swapped after release.
If you have 1-2 friends with you it’s not a 1v3. If they’re already trying to kill something else it’s not a 1v3.
If they’ve slotted movespeed utilities, blown cooldowns or otherwise altered their build in order to reach the zerg faster then it’s a 1v3 with the odds heavily stacked in your favour, since you’re ambushing them in a sub-optimal setting with them at a disadvantage before the fight even begins.
On top of that, which I forgot to mention in my initial response, you have the benefit of vastly increased Power or Precision or Crit damage stats via PvE gear compared to an sPvP environment.
So I can believe you might be able to rofl through that combo unharmed and get kills, but that’s not how actual pvp works in a balanced environment, since you don’t get to stack the situation to your advantage in that way, and good players don’t just eat an 11-part combo without dodging, healing, stunbreaking, or otherwise making a mess of your carefully laid plans.
If it’s working for you, it’s because you’re playing against people who have no clue what they’re doing, or who are outmatched before the combat is even initiated.
Well, I’d SPvP more if SWTOR didn’t ruin that kind of pvp for me. Also, the fact most elementalists have to run support in SPvP proves that our class has major flaws.
Congrats on being able to 1v3 people who are undergeared/levelbuffed and/or who might not even be able to see you on their screen due to culling.
You could run any build you felt like in WvW and find reasonable success with it. It’s a numbers game, and the class you play has very little bearing on the outcome of engagements that involve more than 15 people on each side.
Congrats on assuming I roll with a zerg. I usally run alone or with 1-2 other people. I gank small groups of people trying to take supply camps or reform with their zerg. Also, undergeared/levelbuffed people are becoming less and less with time. So, once again, thanks for assuming I am using people’s disadvantage to my advantage.
No character should ever build as a glass cannon, ele or otherwise. It doesn’t work well in gw2 because each player must have a certain level of indepence. The question is the proportion of DPS/Tank, not the presence or absence of them.
Are you crazy? My glass cannon build wrecks people. I can 2v1/3v1 and drop them all before I drop.
Wrecks people or npc mobs? If you’re talking spvp I don’t believe you can 1 v 2 anyone unless they are afk or horrendous. It takes my thief about 3-5 seconds to kill a glass cannon ele and I’m not great with him. Eles are weak especially in glass cannon mode.
I’m talking WvW. I don’t SPvP. I spot a group, RTL in, updraft, burning speed, ring of fire, fire grab, arcana burst, earth attune, run away, start churning earth, teleport in, cast churning earth, earth 4, earth 2. Rinse, repeat. I have my all my attunements bount to the D-pad of my nostromo and 1-5 on my mouse. Mist form and the trait for arcana shield are your friend.
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Could upgrade to a rare backpiece from the story one, but I don’t feel 5 gold is worth it for 2 power and 1 precision.
I totally thought it was 67% crit, but it’s 65%. Guess I might have had a buff or something. It doesn’t account for the sigil of accuracy so it shows only 60%.
The 103% crit damage is working. So far my highest auto attack has been 8k fireball. With meteor shower critting for 12k. Ice spike hit for 11k (it’s a lot stronger than I ever thought).
