Guild Wars 2

I just hear a collective moan whenever cliffside pops up on 30+. Its not that its so hard but simply obnoxious long. Buggy where people just fall trough the floor and your group has to suicide. Or even more buggy and you can’t progress because of it.

For those of us that are hit with permanent DR skipping makes sense because all we would get are darkened claws and porous bones anyways. Why waste time?

Guardians running around with GS only using no utility skills for Support, never using their F1-F3, no reflects. It simply makes me rage sometimes.

I agree, it would be nice if we could buy the Fractal skins with like 1k Fractel Relics. As of now they are simply clogging up a full bank area and im getting more and more each day without any use for them.

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Guardians Spirit Shield anyone?

I think I have seen so far 2 Guardians that use this skill.

But its like a half minute shield against pretty much anything with a 60 sec cooldown afterwards. Perfect for absorbing most bad attacks from mobs.

Also hardly anyone utilizies Staff correct. Line of Warding is very strong to keep those trash groups in ascalon from insta gibbing everyone.

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I hope they add a way for us to view others true fractal level as well as gear, especially agony resist.

Why? Whats the point of this change then? You’ll then be encouraging the current player gated content methodology which is terrible for fractals right now. Bad idea. If they allow people to view gear, fractal level, agony resist…might as well not change a kitten thing in the way levels are handled.

Because then you’d be forced to try to do level 30 fractals with people who haven’t gotten past level 4, have rare MF armor, no agony resist, and are trying to get carried.

I don’t want to have to deal with someone who doesn’t have the necessary gear, experience and player skill required for higher level fractals.

Still…If agony doesnt hit low level players, what changes? Youre not becoming a better player as your fractal level increases.

1. But it will hit low level players.

2. Yes you are. You learn more about fractals and difficult encounters. A pug whose highest level is 30 is going to be better in fractals than a pug whose highest level is 6, 9 times out of 10. The higher levels weed out lesser skilled players.

They said nothing about whether or not it will hit low level players. We have to wait and see.

And after a few fractal levels, its all the same BS. Honestly, Im no better at fractals now than when I was at lvl 5. Its the same. Youre not growing as a player. Thats just a load.

You guys seem to assume that a high fractal level = skill. It just means that you’ve had more time to run fractals than the next guy.

My experience is the total opposite. Since doing fractals and going to higher levels. I have improved my gameplayer by alot and have gotten better as a player. The harder difficulty on level 30+ makes you think about new ways to play your char to adapt to the encounter at hand.

I think the change is great, now I can play with my guildmates on whatever level we can reasonable do. Because your level 2 player wont survive 16+.

In pugs, I am sure to ask everyone to link his ar gear before they join in. If its not apropriate for the level area the group is going hes not coming. You need 25 AR at least on level 26+ to not be a strong burden to your group.

However this change will also be awesome for my ALTS. I have 8 chars fully equipped and ready to roll. Nearly every one of those has the rings that I farm on my main. So I can jump straight into level 20+ with my alts instead of having to grind from level 1 again. Makes it easier to provide the group with the class it needs.

Interesting because I read no timetable on that article.

But thanks for the link. Cant wait for that to go live.

Sorry but where do you read those changes for the fractals in january?

My issue is not with no drops, but I think that the DR Flagging is bugged and DR is not reset properly. After an update I usually get 5-8 Yellows per level 28+ Fractal run together with a good amount of t6 materials and other assortet blues and greens. Then the next day after 24 hours passed I do the next level 28+ Fractal run and all I would get is max 1-2 yellows and a lot of porous bones and maybe 1-2 t6 materials.

The same pattern repeats until a new build is there when I get alot of yellows again the first run and then nothing again the next day.

I will note down my Fractal chests so I can provide some better data. But usually a run of level 30 will net me 1-2 gold which I feel for the difficulty and 1-2 hours it takes to run it feels very bad in terms of rewards.

Mobs in the toy apocalypse drop nothing,

For me dungeons and fractals seem to be totally non rewarding, dragons havent dropped anything yellow forever for me only green and blue crap. Open world the same.

Do high level Fractals, there is no “run in to the mobs and face and skill stuff” anymore. Anyone who does that simply drops dead in a heartbeat

And yeah the harder content gets the better it is to have a diverse group and every class has some unique abilities that make things easier on the group.

Sure if you run COF you can faceroll it with 5 Warriors easily. Try that at Fractal 30+ and you will want to gouge your eyes out.

Its just too bad that there are only Fractals currently that offer that kind of challenge in the game.

Bad luck is 3 days in a row when you do the level 30 fractal that you get exactly 2 green 1 blue out of every boss chest and 2 green 1 blue + 1 core out of the fractal maw?

Luck has nothing to do with those abysmal loot chances

When the rest of my teammates get 5+ yellows and sometimes exotics on level 30.

Did another run of Fractals level 30.

Exactly 1 yellow which was a magma core from the boss chest, the other drops were in every single chest 2 green 1 blue.

For 2 hours time invested to get trough this its simply stupid and disheartening to only receive 1 small core and nothing else. Of course no ring or fractal skin. That would be something nice too which I cant seem to get.

I have seriously enough with this crappy Random crap. Its not random, its simply only bad loot for me every run, every time. It doesnt matter if I run with MF or without, its always the same bad stuff, 2 green 1 blue and either a putrid essence or some core from maw out of every kitten chest in fractals for the last 3 days on level 30 and 26.

A proper support Guardian will give your whole group most of the time 12-15 Stacks of Might which is a darn good damage up for everybody.

A long time -33% damage with protection and can stop spikes with Aegis.
Permanent speedboost and very long regeneration.
Regeneration on top of alot of heals.

Also tons of crowd controle abilities. The Staff has this amazing line which makes mass pulls alot easier.

Endless reflects and long stability which is essential in a good amount of encounters.
Condition Remove for the whole group.

So far Staff/Hammer or Staff/Scepter/Torch are great for me. Gives alot of utility, controle and endless buffs for my team.

Also a 4 sec combo blast finnisher on the hammer. People don’t utilize combo fields all that well most of the time. Area might (3 might) for the whole team every 4 seconds, 1.5k heals in water fields make a big difference in fights.

Usually its for me “not another warrior” wish I had a necro or ele

Seriously, its not about the class but the ability of the player to play well.

Best example, Dungeon group where 3 couldnt dodge for kitten, ran around like headless chicken and had absolutely 0 situational awareness. Quit at the 3rd fractal before the boss which was easy swamp (because they simply couldnt survive mossmann)

Next was a group of 5 players that were very skilled and 1 disconnected. We finnished 2 fractals and the boss with just 4 players and it was much better than the run with the 5 players where 3 were idiots.

So choose a class that you like visually and think you want to play and learn it well. There are so many different abilities and things you can do with a class you will be surprised. Those elitist players think they are better but usually only know their class and only their preferred dps spec.

Why guardians are awesome? You probably have encountered the 90% of guardians that are terrible and mostly use 2h GS exclusively and dont know what weapon swamp or support abilities are, or better yet use spirit weapons offensively.

You will have a moment of “oh god thats awesome” when you encounter one of those few Guardians that know what they are doing (same for pretty much every class tough, bad players that have no clue about other classes)

Did the level 30 daily after the patch now 3 times as well as level 26 daily.
Day 1: Total yellows: 10, 1 exotic, 1 ring
Day 2: Total yellows: 2 + assortet total crap
Day 3: Total yellows 1 + crap

I hate this stupid bugged DR

Loot would be not so bad if I didnt constantly get hit by DR for no good reason.

2 more fractal runs, level 26 and level 30. Total yellows: 2 (1 each in the maw chest) + 2 putrid essences (please remove those from the loot table, PLEASE)

Also a kitten ton of darkened claws and other assorted grey crap

This was after at least a 12 hour break from the game for sleep and food and work.

I hate feeling like I am under complete and unending diminishing returns without any light at the end of the road that I wll ever get any decent loot for my time.

I think I am hit by permanent DR too sometimes, or at least something really strange is going on with loot tables in general. My group did level 30 Fractal. Everyone at least got 1 exo and 5+ yellows and some of the Mist Shards.

All I got was 1 yellow from a mob drop and 1 putrid essence (the strange level 400 yellow crafting mat for god knows what)

In every boss chest I got 2-3 greens even on the maw chest.

This happened today and yesterday the same. Just total craploot. I went out with approximately 1 gold for the whole dungeon run. It feels really lacking in reward currently doing the higher levels for me. I see all other players getting tons of yellows and exos and they startet to joke abit about my really strange bad luck.

I tried using mf food + banner and none at all. Same crap.

I did level 30, 2 times after the buff. I got 2 green 1 blue out of every chest in the 3 mini dungeons and the boss chest gave me 3 greens and a bile essence.

The mobs dropped 1 yellow troughout the whole run. Everyone else in my group reportet something like 1 exo and 5+ yellows.

Also I got a Flask of Mist Congulated Mist essence on level 30 that isnt supposed to drop anymore after level 14.

Either I am hit by permanent DR for everything or it simply drops the same crap as level 10.

BTW i got the same crap both times

Please can we get a shop added that sells the Fractal Weapon Skins in FOTM for either Daily Fractal Relics or the Normal fractal Relics. I dont care if its a huge amount like 40 daily marks or 4k relics. But this RNG is killing me.

There is no alternative way to getting those weapon skins other than having luck in a daily chest drop. They can not be traded (account bound) and not aquired anywhere else.

I do think they should be rare but not only based off of RNG.

I would love to see the Fractal Weapon skins added to a token vendor. Make it something like 2 or 3k tokens or 20 of the daily tokens. But seriously my luck is really bad last night i got all greens in 3 runs over 20. The boss chest dropped 2 greens and 1 putrid essence…

I know I will never ever get one of the Skins I really want (Sword for my Mesmer and Hammer for the guard) Even if i run the instance 1000 times I probably wont get the skin. So we cannot trade them, at least give us the option to earn them instead of kitten RNG.

Its just stupidity on the players part. They just want the FOTM (yeah nice word play FOTM dungeon, FOTM classes….) classes because they think it will make things easier.

I tell you any class in a dungeon is great the important part is good players. You see this with lower level fractals. Below 26 or so, there are a ton of really bad players that make you want to ripp their heads off. Thats every class. Once you go over 26 the game gets so unforgiving that you rarely find those bad players.

Suddenly it doesnt really matter which class you have since you have good players. Everyone that discriminates against a certain class is just elitist and has a narrow field of view. Those are mostly players that have only their Warrior and never think outside their small little box or try other classes.

I for my part love eles in any group the variety of fields a good ele can provide give alot to the group. There are people that say “yeah but your warrior can do support even better and do better dps”. Its getting stupid. Really really stupid lately.

On the 1 shot part. I run 20+ with my full zerker Mesmer, never die 90% of damage can be mitigated by dodge and reflects/aegis.

All you really need in higher level fractals is good group players.

And the thing about weapons the poster above me said is so true. It makes me sad every time I see people never switching from their favourite weapon to something else.

We get 2 weapon sets, players that can weave between the 2 are so much better than your warrior that wont switch out of his 2h GS. Same for Guardians that never use anything except their 2h GS.

I play Guardian alot and have come to really appreciate Scepter/Torch + Staff. I would love to use hammer all the time but its simply not good on alot of the encounters in fractals.

There are tons of those as drops in the Fractals of the Mist but all you can do is sell them to the next vendor for 2 silver for the yellow ones. Can we please be able to salvage those too?

Just found the recipe and tought it would be totally awesome for my guardian since he heals all the time with so many abilities that I would be able to supply my party pretty decently with might. However after testing it looks like that the only heal this rune is proccing from is the n6 skill.

The F2 of the guardian which is a heal, nor the 4 on staff, nor any support abilities trigger this rune. Is that intended or just a quit bad design for the rune?

I would love the new stats for my guardian. however my main Issue is that 1% more boon duration is way not enough to give up the tertiary stat. If chest had 5%, legs 3% and the rest each 2% it would be fine. However just 6% more boon duration from my whole armor, giving up a ton of other stats for is not enough in my opinion.

This happened to me too. Was in a Fractal run, had to endure this group for 2 hours because they just died all the time. I tried to help them honestly, telling them how they can avoid dieing 10x on the Asura Fractal against the harpyes.

Then at the boss Fractal when the boss had 10% hp I got kicked out.

This is absolute disgusting behaviour. In 15 years of mmo’s this is the first time I have seen this behaviour. I don’t know if communities in general simply are getting worse and worse or if its just this new generation that seems to lack social behaviour by a big part.

So now my group encountered a new bug on cliffside fractal that makes it impossible to do.

We start just normal, get the boss to drop the hammer and then attack the seal. Then we are all stunned for several seconds. However his adds around 8 elite kantors are not and just kill us while we are stunned. Nothing we can do about it.

I mentally cringe every time I see a 2h Sword Guardian with Signets ^^

Seriously, there are alot of bad Warrior players, but there is an equal amount of really really abysmal Berserker 2h Sword Guardians that think they are warriors.

And of course faceplant as often as the 2h Signet Warriors with the exception that their damage compared to warriors is pitifull.

Id welcome if they simply sent one of those goodie bags to every account that was created before the karka event ended. Sure some would get an additional one. But all the Oceanics who didnt get to participate would get a goodie bag too. Not just those that had the time to be there.

Would be a nice gesture from A-Net.

I would love to see more Underwater Fractals. Really underwater combat is so rare while we have a weaponset just for that.

Also can we please craft exotic breather masks?

As for GW1 stuff redone. How about defending Glint? I loved the Brotherhood Challenge.
Maybe something around the Hall of Monuments. Id really like to know how it got beaten up, that would make an awesome fractal.

In general many of the Nightfall locations and dungeons.

Also please more Boss Levels. Jade Sea is fine, but the Maw is getting boring.

I think A-Net is doing a really bad job with Monetizing their gem shop.

On one hand, you see all those slight changes which lead me to think that they want us to buy gems to convert to gold so we can buy ingame equipment (which is a really bad thing)

On the other hand there are the contents of the gem shop itself which are very bland and boring in my opinion.

I do not care for boosts or the random chests (I despise random so I would never support random casino style chests and the likes in any game)

There are some costumes but not really a good choice and nothing that really strikes me as “I want that”

Why does A-Net not work more on the gemstore side and implement more Costumes? I couldnt care less for the next iteration of the Black Lion Chest, but I would love to see some really nice Weapon Skins, Armor Skins and Town clothes. especially Town Clothes.

Here is my countersample
Tier 2

Guardian:
0/13 0%

Mesmer
1/11 9

Total 24 daily chests 1 ring

will update today once I run another round.

My advice. Keep your ranger, play other classes too.

I startet as a Ranger, went over to a Neco, played Guardian and now Mesmer. Some Engineer, Warrior, Ele and Thieve too.

I just play what is fun. Rangers unfortunately have lost alot of that, they feel stale, forced into 1 spec and are not really that great with it either. Ill wait for A-Net to fix it.

Bots were banned and now the ascended items take a bloody kitten at us with 250 of T6 materials for everything.

Want to craft a back? 250 T6 mats and 50 Ektos. Want to upgrade that? 250 ektos, want an infusion with stats? 100 T6 mats.

Its simply crazy how many materials you need for everything. Why always full stacks? Why not a sensibale mount of 25 or 50 and 10 Ektos?

Why does A-Net need to inflate prices like mad with this?
its not fun grinding 100 gold simply for an infused back piece if you cant exploit the market or some other thing ingame or find a precursor daily.

Getting maybe 3 gold per hour would be really good so it takes like 30 hours just to get the back piece, infuse? another 30 hours, you can upgrade that again for another 30 hours spent farming mind numbingly.

I WANT TO ENJOY THIS GAME, not farm my kitten off. If I wanted that kind of grid I could play Aion

ok got an update. I played another character up to lvl 10, my mesmer and did the daily now 2 times guess what?

Guardian:
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no

Mesmer:
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yes

so my guardian did not get a ring on his first and has never so far seen one in this whole week of doing dailies.

my meser got on the first run one, second run another one.

Will post more tomorrow.

But yeah, coincidence? I doubt it highly.

He is not that hard, simply use proper tactics. I hate the stupid ice elemental, that is annoying. The Suit is fine

If that should be done, remove the 5% fee you pay out of your pocket for listing something on the TP and only pay the 15% (which is insanely high imho) on successfull sale.

Day 8…

NO ring again

I really wonder if that is really RNG.

Please A-Net look into it. It might just be some stupid bug. Because I see the same people get rings and the same people not get one quit often.

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another day without a ring drop. Its getting stupid

I tried now every day for a full week and had no drop running the 10-20 bracket daily.
THIS IS NOT FUN; NOT FUN; NOT FUN.

Someone in my guild who does it daily got 8 rings so far…

There has to be a code error somewhere.

This stupidity is draining my will to login and do it again, because deep down I know it will be another try in vain.
Already had some of my guild quit because of that dungeon.

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on an additional note. It does seem somehow that the lootformula is totally bugged (at least to me) Because the last 30 fractals. EVERY chest except the boss chest contained exactly 2 green 1 blue items. No variation. Simply 2 green 1 blue every chest from the fractals. Boss chest is exactly 2 yellow 1 green (havent done as many of those maybe 6)

Its quit easy.

If you can do an encounter Melee and not once go into downed mode and support your team. They are wrong.

If you go melee and die all the time or go downed all the time and not support your team, you are wrong.

I have seen many guardians and the most horrible ones have been those that used GS only and refused to do anything else. I do not kick them from a group but I make sure to never play with them ever again when I encounter stupid players that refuse to adapt to the situation.

Day 6 another Day no ring dropped. Someone in my group just got his 4th….

Im hereon 5 dailies no ring. I have been doing 3 of those with the same guy who has now 3 rings. A pattern? Could this be a bug where some players simply never receive the ring and other have it as a fix drop?

day 4, no ring again. I HATE RANDOM.

Not really able to continue because I can not get that stupid ring to drop. Stuck at the same level 18 because agony gets too hard without more agony resist. Now my guild is split in people by levels and those that got lucky with the ring lottery….

I really liket he design and the difficulty of those fractals. But some decicions (like levels dictatet by lowers and the ring lottery) are simply horrible.

The jelly fish boss is easy yes, but just obnoxiously long. Make him more difficult but cut his hp in half?

I really love how most boss fights are hard, strategic, but dont take hours to finnish because so far bosses had reasonable HP with exception of the jelly fish

On the other hand, having 2 people dc in the middle of a bossfight on 12 is not fun…

New dungeon doesnt drop anything good anymore except for the boss chests every 2 levels. Loot was abysmall after this " nothing was changed just maintenance" update.

Before that my group got tons of yellows out of chests even from level 2 in the fractals. Now every chest I have opened in the last 30 fractals (up to level 12) was 2 green 1 blue, no variety. Always 2 green 1 blue.

If there was a luck factor, in over 30 chests there could have been 1 yellow no? I don’t believe in endless streaks of the same loot constellation.

This was not only on my char, my whole group noticed that the loot was totally crap today. We joked that when we did fractals they were nice and even rewarded us properly and now A-Net nerfed the next thing that was enjoyable and made us good money.

Seems like a trend to nerf all the good stuff.

We did another 7 levels, we had 1 yellow drop across our group from the normal chests and the usual 2 yellows on the boss chest.

Looks like the routine maintenance just nerfed the loot of fractals into nothingness.

Our group ran from level 4 up to level 10, each boss chest only contained 2 greens 1 blue + some silver and the boss drop chests contained only 1 max 2 yellows usually.

Loot was totally kitteny, even random loot was bad.

Yesterday everyone in my group usually had 1 yellow in a chest and 3 yellows in a boss chest. Some random yellow drops.