I thought this was the roaming tier. Somehow I wound up in a place where people still think d/d glass thieves are viable and the average player can’t PvP their way out of a plastic bag. Oh well, I’ll be gone on Tuesday.
Here’s how the average day of roaming goes…
DH has always been awful at PvP, stick around and maybe when they zerg their way out of tier 6 a good server will take their place.
Game Over
As much as I love this content, it should not stay in the game – for the same reason that Wintersday and Halloween content never stayed in the game – it’s event material. The kind of content that gets you into the spirit of the event, but after a while gets stale and boring. This month will be very fun with SAB, but if we kept it in the game any longer it would collect dust and grinders.
Also, if the developers put in work for this, it would destroy the resources they could have used on the game, such as other events or expansions.
Grind?
I got 50 bauble bubbles today and bought the greatsword with them. I also now have the shortbow and scepter from the TP.
Apparently per account, not per character, unless it was my easy mode on the second character today that didn’t give full chest Bauble Bubbles.
It’s per character, I got my greatsword from grinding it – creating characters, completing it, deleting characters, repeating.
Finally! Looks like a light sabre
Will answer any questions about it in here.
Just caught [bank] from BP in AR Hills Lord room with numbers with both gates and walls intact…
Not to complain, its just to notify BP if they want to police their own people. We already sent screenshots and reported to Anet.
who says mesmers inside wasnt hiding?? with thiefs??
You know it is entirely possible (highly improbable) and I’ll leave it up to Anet to decide what happened. We swept the crap out of the keep.
It would mean they had to hide two mesmers, one behind each wall to pull it off legit since everything was intact.
you do know 1 mesmer can portal directly into lords room right?
I didn’t know a mesmer could portal directly into the lords room while everything was intact. This is legit? Forgive my ignorance if that is the case.
Yes, it is possible.
Server A is about to lose hills
Mesmer from Server A hides well inside the keep
Server B takes the keep, and quickly runs to their next objective
Mesmer from Server A notices that everything is clear, calls everybody to rally outside the keep, and ports everybody in.
The problem with upgrades giving wxp is people running into a tower thats under attack, seeing no current upgrade, and deciding to pop the merchant upgrade, while the rest of the team are using the tower supply to make arrow carts. Repairing is the same deal – someone drains all of stonemist’s supplies fixing a wall that is taking constant treb fire, and when the wall eventually dies there is no supply left to siege up the lord room.
Adding WXP to dolyak escorts is a possibility, as the original botting of that was for people to get the money/karma from it (spendable currency which can imbalance game economy – WXP cannot be used outside your character). However, a problem would be people running a program to farm the WXP while they’re sleeping – again, this would be a lesser problem than normal bots, as WXP cannot be traded across characters or accounts, so they have to risk their main char being reported.
THIS.
Upgrading needs rewards, because I’m tired of emptying my pockets just so we could lose everything overnight. However, to avoid the type of noob that James explains above, the rewards need to stay WvW-related.
My idea is that each time you upgrade something in WvW, upgrades cost less the next time you decide to upgrade. For example, somebody who has upgraded to a waypoint for SM over 5 times will have a cost of only 30 silver when they go to upgrade it again, whereas somebody who has never upgraded SM has to pay the full 1.5 gold.
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bots? we bot now do we, huh im pretty sure i have no idea how to use my computer, my internet died once and people told me to restart my router i said " you mean the box with the flashy lights", sekz is organized were often yelling at each other to stay in the ball. also im pretty sure ebay was doing just fine in t4 with out us, also i believe we were drunk when you wrote this so it must of been rather sloppy
Don’t mind the trolls from BP, seems to be loads of them. They only care about winning, and when they lose, everybody else is a cheater.
Perhaps you BP have forgotten the time you openly made a pact with Maguuma to stop Devona’s winning streak? Ah, perhaps you just forgot?
I feel confident saying this is the most awesome thing I’ve read all day. Although the thought of being killed by a 6 year old is discomfiting. Please give them both a high five on my behalf.
Did you read my list of demands- I mean post?
Can you answer why bags are dropped instead of loot just coming to us?
Why is it that my precursor hasn’t dropped yet? Is it because of the time I TPed ArenaNet headquarters for not fixing culling in beta?
Bags are dropped because some people may have full inventories and would like to clear them out before coming back to pick up their bags. Also, one might think that WvW loot is trash anyway and wouldn’t want to pick up the bags at all. The bags are automatically transported to the player because sometimes enemies are killed in inaccessible locations such as inside towers or keeps.
Forgive my off-topicness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LDFHonqUXA
This is a movie with commentary from reset night. Thanks for the great 3way fight at hills to whoever was there. That was a lot of fun.
There is also a great display of the famed DH tactics at the end. Now, every server has zerglings that only know how to solve problems with numbers. DR has them too. Just a lot less of them.
Stop whining about numbers all the time. It’s getting boring that it’s the same excuse and/or reasoning you use. It’s war. Numbers are part of it. Get over it.
Another classic zergling response.
Let me clear something up for you. This is not war, this is a game. Games are meant to be challenging and fun. Coming after 15 people with 50+ is absolutely pathetic behavior.
The funny thing though is that it was still a challenging fight for those 50 as we downed quite a few of them before we were overwhelmed.
Best argument ever: Stop using being outnumbered 4 to 1 as an excuse for losing!
Only a zergling would say something that stupid.
Does this not classify as a simulation of war? You can always go 300 and be proud about it. You earn respect by doing it, not whining every time.
Oh? Wanna see a zerg going after 1 tower? Hypocrites at its finest.
This was an organized WorldXP/Experience train, little one. Couldn’t tell by the masses of upscaled players with Experience banner boosts only? Or did you realize it but decide to lie on the forums to make us look bad?
Pathetic, how far you will go to trash talk us. It’s almost laughable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LDFHonqUXA
This is a movie with commentary from reset night. Thanks for the great 3way fight at hills to whoever was there. That was a lot of fun.
There is also a great display of the famed DH tactics at the end. Now, every server has zerglings that only know how to solve problems with numbers. DR has them too. Just a lot less of them.
Stop whining about numbers all the time. It’s getting boring that it’s the same excuse and/or reasoning you use. It’s war. Numbers are part of it. Get over it.
Personally I don’t mind that you outnumber us enormously (because really what can you do, just stop playing?)
What I DO mind is the fact that most DH I see claim that they don’t win because of numbers. They claim that they win because of skill, which is obviously not true. We have the outmanned buff most of the time in all maps. Yesterday, when we lost the buff in EB, we shot up to +380 potential points, putting us first in potential points. This is a trend that I always find happening: we lose the buff and start winning; we gain the buff and DH destroys us.
I don’t care that you have numbers, but don’t let the scoreboard tell you that your tactics are superior to ours, because that is entirely false.
DH everywhere… 20+ in IoJ border, got a hefty size running around their own border, who knows how many in EB, and they have a presence in DR border as well. So many. Do not enjoy.
And yet time and time again they will tell us that they win because of tactics, not numbers.
HA
If you look at the current scores, you could see that most matches are actually fairly balanced. There is no team completely dominating and no team that is getting steamrolled – point gaps seem to be only around 10,000.
So with that, ladies and gentlemen, I give to you an extreme fairweather player. I’m in DR, and we have the second-largest point gap from the winning team in all NA matches currently. And yet… all I see in my server is people having fun. OP does not care at all about having fun, he simply wants to win. Win, win, win. If his team falls below by a few thousand points, they suck and he needs to join the winning team. WIN!
I can’t understand how people prefer winning over challenge, teamwork, and coordination. While you fairweathers whine about losing (even though you may be in one of the top tiers), I’ll enjoy my server losing in tier 6, because even though we’re losing we all have fun and we work great as a team.
Ugh, I was in favor of free transfers before I saw this thread. I think free transfers would be great because it would allow players to find their perfect homes. I transferred around quite a bit before I found my perfect server, but I knew when I came that this was my place to be because I enjoyed the friendly people around me — Thus, I believe it would be a great way to find a server that meets your social preferences. However, it’s because of fairweathers like OP that ruin it. We can’t allow free transfers because fairweathers would hop around and create imbalance, just because they like to win.
I am a Devonian for life. I will never leave, not even if Grenth himself dragged me through the Mists.
TL;DR free transfers would be an amazing idea if there was no fairweather
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I let my kids – ages 6 and 8 – role up characters on my account. I have a great time watching them huddle around the computer playing GW2, especially when they jump into WvW. “Get the yak!” “Follow the commander!” and other lines are priceless coming from the 6-year old. The best part is when they go to bed and I clean up their inventory (they don’t know what to sell vs merchant) and find several badges collected from their fun.
Using children as slaves for badges?
Reported.
:)
Props to this mesmer from [War]. I had killed him earlier because he was trying to harass me with flame traps.. Then he comes back and kills me while I am AFK and I return to find him still taunting my corpse as if it’s prideful to kill an AFK guy after he STOMPED you earlier. XD
I will ensure that no [War] escapes my sight without being harassed or killed.
Darkhaven is even worse at PvP than Borlis was. Anyone else tired of these numbers games?
Essentially here’s how things have been going: Ebay and DR completely dominate during the day because BP actually has opponents (Equal numbers for BP is too much for them to handle).
Then, BP caps EVERYTHING while Ebay and DR are sleeping (other than Ebay BL, you guys have kept quite a handle on that place).
The sun is rising atm and I see BP rapidly slipping off of the map, but when I logged in they had nearly everything. So tell me again how BP wins over DR because of tactics and not coverage?
ANet does not care about fixing the tier 8 black hole because you’ll be more likely to buy gems to transfer if you’re stuck in tier 8.
uncontested jade quarry
Thank you very much mate
Any US servers open at the moment?? Thanks!
^ I need this too, I’m on Devona’s Rest and no luck here. I just guested to Tarnished and none either. I wan to make sure now before I use my last guest. Please reply soon someone
So every BP PvP player is terrible because of the JP people you met? I don’t know if you realized but a lot of the jumping puzzle people are PvE people.
Also, have you met GOAT or WAR? Instead of complaining how terrible we are at the JP, go out there and find a real challenge in the ACTUAL WvW.
Scrub.
I assume you didn’t read my second post, because I clearly stated that this was aimed at those players and not every BP PvP player.
And I’ve probably seen GOAT on the battlefield but don’t remember anything in particular, WAR is great on the battlefield but from what I’ve seen not very good in PvP (it’s an opinion, QQ more). Btw the only one complaining here is you complaining about my post. Why would I complain about how my enemy is terrible? Lmao
Again it’s obvious you didn’t read my second post because I have found a challenge in the actual WvW with Echo. (very good fights and lots of fun)
Scrub for encouraging my opponent to improve in an area I believe they lack in? Ha, pretentious, pretentious.
Great fun with both bp and eb in drbl last night. Our very small roaming group(3 ppl) had some fun fights with both krewes, got spanked by Echo a lot. Have to contradict Queensdale here. Enjoying our fights with bp so far. Props to you guys for doing so well.
Lion fo the Wind
RgTg/SoCo
Oh Echo is great. And I love Ebay, they’re very good with tactics and it’s obvious they are winning because of skill instead of numbers like our SBI friends. I’d say the same for BP if it weren’t for the failed PvPers I’ve come across, and of course the previously teaming with Maguuma against us doesn’t make them look good at all.
But yeah, the roamers of BP are wonderful. Had some great roaming fights with equal numbers as well as fighting with zergs last night – Especially with Echo, kitten you guys could fight.
I hope I didn’t come across as hostile in my last post, I was really just aiming it toward the bad guilds in BP that can’t PvP and try to camp upscaled players in the JP
Where’s AoD and Sir Morningstar?!
AoD is still around. Sadly, I haven’t seen Morningstar in several weeks now.
We miss you Morningstar, please come back.
Morningstar will be back “soon” as he stated a few weeks ago. He did say he’d be back last match, but I never saw him on. Check out the first page of the last few DR threads and you’ll find his posts.
Back on topic of the thread, I knew BP was bad (you didn’t think we forgot about the whole teaming with Maguuma against us thing did you?), but they are just awful at PvP. I was doing the EB puzzle as I do every day on my warrior when somewhat of a BP zerg (not exactly a zerg, but it had about a dozen people which is a lot for the JP) furiously attacked me. I thought I was screwed for sure, but kitten they were horrible. I hardly even acknowledged them, just skipped around to the well and lost them as I went up. No speed buffs, no heals, and I didn’t even fall below 50% health. A dozen people.
Then, after I finished on my warrior, I came back on my mesmer where 2 KZ attacked me after the well, where I completely ignored them and lost them shortly after the spike traps. 3 THUG (I think that was the guild tag) were trying to camp me towards the end of the puzzle, using the flame trap to try to hit me. They were literally pressing it as soon as they were able to every time. I grab stealth, go through the flame traps (that are still firing hard) in short intervals at a time, finish the puzzle and go back to pull them off
Finally, I returned to do the puzzle on my thief where the same 3 THUG (and this was a while later, so they must have been camping for hours with no success) tried repeatedly to pull me off of the jumps before the dark room. Here’s a tip guys, Scorpion Wire doesn’t work if it’s obstructed
Needless to say, I had a huge /laugh @ fest before continuing on with the puzzle. Please get better at PvP, I need a challenge BP.
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Must suck to show that ANet guild tag and get targeted all the time
Capped Golanta solo, upgraded Golanta solo, built a treb at Golanta solo, started trebbing Klovan solo lol
Defended it pretty well in the beginning, but you know that old saying…
“Kill one SBI and two come back. Kill those two SBI and four come back. Kill those four SBI and an entire zerg of 30+ comes to wipe you and proceed to laugh at you”
Stay classy SBI, taunting after a zerg wipes one person is.. err.. interesting
Got some arrogant grave-dancers?
Nothing a little bit of fireworks can’t fix
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Back-petal? Haha you’re that desperate to argue? I asked a question, you answered it, and I asked another question. I didn’t refine my original question (lmao), I simply asked another.
You must have mistaken my first question as a rhetorical argument, which it was not (it was a serious question, not an argument). If the “I’d really love to know” didn’t point that out, I’ve got some bad news for you, back-petal boy lmao.
I really didn’t care about your quotes of Oozo — My last post was simply responding to your “Oh the irony <3” comment, as it was rude and it obviously didn’t make any sense. You’re so quick to judge a comment (in this case a question) as an argument against you that it makes you blind.
In all serious though, everybody who is whining about forum posts is extremely biased and should definitely check over their facts before spitting nonsense. Who ever said anything about SBI being a zerg server or being unskilled, etc? I’d really love to know.
Try reading the entire thread before replying. From the first page:
SBI is a zerg-mentality server.
And, yes – compared to other servers I’ve fought SBI is a zerg server.
Uhuh…
In all serious though, everybody who is whining about forum posts is extremely biased and should definitely check over their facts before spitting nonsense.
Oh, the irony <3
You mean to tell me that Earendil’s entire rage post about “forum warriors” was really about this one person? I honestly doubt that, because Oozo’s posts (that you took completely out of context) were actually rather friendly — especially compared to Earendil’s hostile response. Tell me, where is the trolling and the endless repetition — in bold letters, don’t forget — of SBI being a zerg server? Where is the forum warriors from DR who are nowhere near as kind as the angels from TC, YB, and CD?
I encourage you to read Earendil’s post again, and tell me that it isn’t full of bias and nonsense. I was actually offended by the way he portrayed the people of DR, and I’m sure many others were. And why? Because he likes to whine about posts that don’t exist. Because when one person claims very lightly and calmly that he believes SBI has zerg-mentality, he makes outrageous claims like that everybody from DR who posts is a forum warrior because they disagree with him.
Nice try…. I would give it a 3 out of 10. Maybe a 4 or 5 even to highlight the effort.
You should try harder, I know you can do better. You did it before, your posts prove it.
Forum Battling 101 – When you lose an argument, claim that your opponent is trolling. That will win you some points!
In all serious though, everybody who is whining about forum posts is extremely biased and should definitely check over their facts before spitting nonsense. Who ever said anything about SBI being a zerg server or being unskilled, etc? I’d really love to know.
And please, nobody call me a troll. Forming a sensible argument and contributing to the discussion is not trolling FYI.
Hope I could throw in another idea.
Perhaps they could create more maps and thus lower the limit of players allowed in a single WvW map. Players would then spread out across the maps to avoid queue, and less people in the map = less zergy.
I do like your idea as well, but just wanted to put this one here as well.
It is not the same WM look at the spelling. The WM from SBI was spelled “War Machine” that one is spelled “Warr Machine”. It is all a psycological play to try to brek our morale on SBI. Either way no worries no matter what is done to us it just makes us stronger which is why we were in T1 for so long against outnumbering odds until we just finally lost to many players to hold in that teir. We where holding in T1 at 3 to 1 odds and when we hit zergs 5-6 times larger than ours we wtill held. Our problem was map coverage compared to their map coverage. It is all tatics and pride and we have both.
So many things wrong with this post.
You do realize there is more than one WM guild? Warr Machine is a strict, Korean guild that transferred from Kaineng to DR yesterday, and they have been around for a long while. If you truly think that we created a fake WM guild to lower your morale.. Well sir, in all due respect, you are a nutcase.
The fact that you’re boasting about how you’re winning because of tactics instead of numbers is actually laughable. When our numbers were equal just a few days ago on Thursday, IoJ took SM and DR took Lowlands, completely wiping SBI out of EB. Was that all part of your “tactics”?
I will be on this week I hope I will give some boost to everybody.
Woo! Can hardly wait to see you back in action.
I saw lots of WarMachine here in DR today, even Munong. I hope WM is moving to Devona
So upon the first day of my returning, we get a golem rush going and take Lowlands while SBI is occupied with IoJ in Stonemist. Look at all of the people who needed the vista in Lowlands! I just had to grab a pic.
And earlier today, another golem rush gets us SM and the entire north section of EB! I’m having loads of fun back in my home-server, even if we are a bit behind in points. Keep it up SBI and IoJ, I look forward to meeting you on the battlefield in the coming week!
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And 20 gold later…
I have returned to you, my dear Devona’s Rest. I will see you on the battlefield.
Going to post a few of my pictures from this match before I go. Hope you enjoy
PICTURE 1: Check out this new ninja spot for Mend I found this match. Blends in with the wall nicely but you need to stop shooting if someone goes into Mend or they will see your giant rocks!
PICTURE 2: In Soviet Sorrow’s Furnace, we ram gates from the inside! If you look closely, you could tell that our ram is set up on the inside of Overlook Keep, and that somebody set a ram up just to allow reinforcements to pass. A strange, yet interesting, way to do things!
PICTURE 3: Positive spawn camping. If they attack your yaks, simply down them but do not kill them. Unless they continue doing it! This way you could be friendly by letting your enemy keep his armor repaired, while also supporting your team
PICTURE 4: Open your eyes ET! One man ninja gets both outer and inner walls down. Time-consuming but fun! It was, of course, another fail, because only about five showed up. It was still fun nonetheless.
Great match thus far ET and FC.
Lol, some SF ordered merchants while FC was @ inner of their keep, wasting 300 supply while we were already scarce. Either we have a case of a spy, or someone who is really bad lol.
We defended it still, but just something to note.
One of Takerukun’s posts in the other thread explains what is going on (emphasis mine)…
Thanks for posting these, very helpful.
So really there’s no way out of Tier 8 without a lot of time, even if all three servers are working to push one of them out. And it will be even worse the next time a server gets sucked into the black hole that is Tier 8. This definitely requires ArenaNet intervention, no doubt about it.
Personally I never started corpse dancing/jumping/laughing/whatever until it started popping up as a problem on the forums. It happens to me all the time lol, really nothing to get upset about. As far as JP camping goes, I don’t do it but really why would we let you have free seige? It’s a war. Could you imagine if the French asked Germany for free weapons during World War II? It would be baffling.
And zerging annoys you? Well tough. I don’t care if it’s honorable or not, if it works and it isn’t against GW2 rules I will use it. Believe it or not, zerging is a tactic. Zerging is available to all servers, not just SF. Connecting back to the WWII reference, imagine if the French also asked Germany to stop fighting in mass because it was dishonorable, or it made them seem like “distasteful” people.
I will stress again that this is a war. No matter what tactic we need to use, red = dead. We are enemies, whether you like it or not. If you want a place where people are always polite, I’m sure you’ll love PvE.
But all of this aside, I’m proud to say that the waypoint at ET keep I ordered has been built, woo transportation. Let’s play a game… find the blue or red.
I knew FC would go for Langor so I seiged the underworld out of it. Needless to say breakout event happened before I finished upgrading everything (trust me, took lots of Dolyak running for this). We handled it accordingly because I had the place LOADED with seige lawl. Then we had bravost breakout to deal with, handled them all as well lawl.
So yeah, I got this awesome mortar. And now we have guild buffs too Gonna need more than a breakout to get this, FC!
Ah, WZ Ferg Zerg tried to cap Rogues. Come on guys, you can do better!
Ahhhh, just another update for everyone. Does this still count as nightcapping?
Actually, I believe it goes under the category of CONQUERING >:)
Well done to all of the comrades who participated. Getting bravost was a bit of a thrill but after that it was cake. Now I’m off for some food, cheers ET and FC and thanks for the keeps ^.^
Is this treaty of yours even necessary? Seriously, when was the last time you saw ET attack FC or vice-versa anyway?
It’s expected that you hit SF when we’re the ones in your borderlands and EB territory. You could impose this treaty all you want, SF has been fighting 2v1 matches ever since we started winning against you two. This treaty means nothing.
For it meaning nothing, you guys are getting pretty kitten over it.
Perhaps some of my comrades feel intimidated by this, but it all blows over when they realize it’s already been going on and we’ve won through it twice.
Yo ET, ill just leave this nightcapping here. UMADBRO?
Ah, this was fun
Props to the SF trebbers who blew through 2 fortified walls.
Is this treaty of yours even necessary? Seriously, when was the last time you saw ET attack FC or vice-versa anyway?
It’s expected that you hit SF when we’re the ones in your borderlands and EB territory. You could impose this treaty all you want, SF has been fighting 2v1 matches ever since we started winning against you two. This treaty means nothing.
I see your nefarious plan, ET.
Specifically you guys, PK.
Get us all drunk so we can’t fight
Seriously though. TY for throwing us this housewarming party at Overlook
Gah, you posted it before I could! Sneaky, sneaky. But thanks for the banner, PK! And thanks for making the cap interesting, took us a while to get it.
I agree that the rating system should be tweaked to ensure fairness. Lots of you believe that SF likes being in tier 8 because we win, but it gets boring without a challenge. 4 straight weeks with the same two servers makes it even worse. I personally don’t have an idea as to how they should go about changing this (other than the far-fetched idea of hiring staff to manually arrange the rankings to ensure no server dominates, but we all know that won’t happen), but I do agree wholeheartedly.
Somebody was ranting about Sorrow’s Furnace in your conversation, I just want to stress that we aren’t choosing to remain in Tier 8 — please don’t put the blame on us. I don’t understand where all of the hatred comes in; SF is probably the friendliest server I’ve been in anyway.
Well, since I posted it in the wrong place…
Greeting from the comrades of Sorrow’s Furnace. My heart beats for my comrades, my legs move for them — so much that I have written a song to my beloved comrades. A song to raise the spirits of all of Sorrow’s Furnace, across the mountains and beyond! Hear it now, in favor of the reset!
Dwayna has smiled upon you on this day,
the fate of a server in your hands!
and blessed be the trebuchets, who tear down walls on the garrison,
until only the green walls stand..
You see the distant golem, it bellows in the night
you fight in all our names, for what we know is right,
and when you all get zerged and cannot carry on,
though you die… Sorrow’s Furnace lives on.
You may get ballista’d hard, by a player from ET,
you may be camped by FC, a shocking sight to see,
But when they finish you, you will not feel the need to rage,
for though you die… Sorrow’s Furnace lives on.
(bonus brownie points if you catch the reference)
For SF!
NEW THREAD: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/2-8-Tier8-FC-ET-hopefully-not-SF/first#post1401787
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