Guild Wars 2

Don’t underestimate a D/D ele for fast AoE burst. Have a guarding to pop stability on him and he can leave a wake of downed enemies for you to clean up.

Jaaded.1870:

Jhor.4350:

Dred has a lot of outrageous stuff to say. Really good for a laugh.

I temporarily benched my main and rolled a new, lvl 1 necro on reset and took it directly to WvW. I have no real idea how to play it, and frapsed a few fights this week in an effort to improve. These are not full-blown vids with music, etc, but I threw some online anyway so people can see how we run:

Skirmish at Ruins
Outnumbered and extending
Keep defense
Camp defense
Waterfront skirmish

Aside from me not being effective on Necro yet, this is pretty representative. If we can hit you from over a hill or around a corner, we will. If we have to cross ground, we’ll try to cover part of it in group stealth. We typically run 10-12 people, and are usually outnumbered. We aren’t going to do a Charge of the Light Brigade at the zerg. Nobody is abusing anything, and it helps a LOT that many people out there do not seem to pan.

We usually have like 2 thieves and 1-2 mesmers. We are heavy on Elms. Several people have a couple characters they switch between depending on mood and zerginess.

The funniest moment of the week was a PRO thief popping out of stealth, throwing a flame ram on our group, then disappearing again. It was hilarious, props to that guy.

Edit: Added one.

Enjoyed these :o)

xD LilJ that was you in that waterfront video!

Zizanzi.4678:

Creslin.1758:

Balidore.2790:

Jhor.4350:

Balidore.2790:

I understand you guys have 3 times our numbers, so you have a good chance of winning anyway, but we’re still wanting to fight you guys even, 3:1. The fact that you NoQQ guys are still pulling little kitten tactics with that kinda ratio.. Have to say, I’ve honestly lost any form of respect I had for you guys. Man up.

Actually not sure what we did to even piss you off. You guys are almost impossible to kill, and have great timing backdooring us while we’re backdooring Dev.

Anyway…good luck I guess.

Na, I was just drunk and wanted a good fight is all, lol. You guys just would only show up at the exact worst times ever. I don’t even know how many times we were just cleaning up and/or in the middle of a good fight and were like, “kitten, NoQQ,” and had to run for the hills, lol. Well played.

Haha that’s the truth. In retrospect, I really can’t blame you [NoQQ] guys for defending your server-mates. But just like Balidor says, you guys would always seem to just sweep in when we were engaged in a pitched battle, and at that point it was just a frantic race to escape.

The amount of CC you guys lay down, and your chasing ability is ridiculously awesome. My Ele build is really good at escaping CC and getting away, but half the time I just couldn’t get away from you guys.

Anyway, hopefully next time we can fight you guys in a more even battle. Good fights anyway!

I have the utmost respect for really good small mans in open field that are coordinated. I have seen two such groups against Kaineng & Envy is one of them. As others in NoQQ can tell you my respect doesn’t come easy because you have to “earn” it & prove to me you deserve it. See you out there & happy hunting.

Stylii Elementalist
Shoulda Rolled Kaineng (NoQQ) Leader
Kaineng

I’m working on building a small (5-15) man skirmish group that operates in units of 5. Hope to have some good fights with you guys out there.

Shananigans.8412:

It dosn’t matter if you stay or go, Kaineg will control primetime every night with 3 guilds that have less members combind than PRO claimed they had when they came here. I invite the challenge, if it takes another giuld the size one of our 3 to add to PRO, GASM, DR, RED, SOCO and more for you guys to stop us, so be it.

Lol, SoCo fields 15 people from their guild on a GOOD night. The difference is they have a strong network of other guilds assisting and coordinating, a very strong tactical leader, and each of their allied guilds have competent non-egotistical leadership. Stop trying to act like DR is simply winning because of HUUUUGE POP and massive zergs with no coordination and leadership. It’s simply not true.

Antiriad.7160:

If you want to accumulate badges, don’t go elementalist.
If you make him tanky, you don’t dish out enough damage. If you go dps you will just die quickly since it’s got super low base hp and no armor.

Thief or Mesmer or maybe warrior are the way to go for badge farming.

Lol, 600 badges and counting in 3 weeks on my ele. 1500 wvw kill, etc. When I RTL into an enemy group for every attack I see red numbers of 2k+ popping up and my churning earth finisher crits for about 8k. Oh and unlike other high burst/spike classes all my attacks are AoE so I’m doing all this damage to 3-5 people.

Low level eles are shark bait in WvW. Truth be told my ele didnt become dangerous until 80 with all exotics, and a good PvP set up.

WvW
SKY
FWAE

/15charlol

/me emotes allow you to type whatever you wish. Anyone know if the enemy can read these?

There are some of us who still remember when our matchup wasn’t flooded with trashtalk.

Also: LilJ/Nals 2012

Taking note of something amiss =/= QQ. I’m by no means a PvP god, but I have my fair share of hours logged and I’ve never once been critted for 12k, ever. Not even by the ever so popular glass cannon backstab build. Bear in mind, this was one ability for me, not a string of 1k-2k hits. 1 shot in the damage log and I didn’t pay any mind until ktith made me think of it more closely. It seemed odd, but I accepted that it was probably my lack of knowledge of class mechanics.

Yeah, if this is occurring, I’m sure it’s not from the guys who’ve been repping Kain from the beginning.

Anyone know if its possible to hit for 12k damage with ‘Kill Shot’. Saw that happen to me and just assumed it was a glass cannon hitting me with their most powerful attack.

Edit, just looked at some rifle warrior sPvP and the most I saw it hit for is 6k. Seems a bit off, and yes this attack came from Kains side.

I kind of agree, orbs were exciting, stat imbalances were not.

I still think orbs should just give a huge bonus to PvE stats: karma, xp, mf, and gold on DE’s.

ktith.6197:

SO not only does Kaineng have the numbers back this week, but several individuals in different guilds are exploiting and using various hacks….

You’re winning and you have to use hacks too….

Real classy there huh?

Normally I’d call out people who make accusations, but you’re a pretty well respected member of DR. You mind elaborating on what exploits in particular are occuring?

1. All caps is obnoxious
2. Repost
3. It’s actually round 4

Kain won
DR won
DR won
<-Here→

Yo fergs on EB tonight. You guys put up one helluva fight. Ran into a few guys who’s 1v1 and 1v2 skills were just insane. Your zerg was kitten hard to stop, and yeah, that fight in the supply camp with all the ballistas and AoE: THAT was so much fun.

You guys have come out swinging and I like it. Hope to see more, and I’m sure I’ll be donating more silver to your bloodlust (in the form of armor repairs).

KuraKaze.2314:

@Drednyte

We sure did kick some butt that night, I need to get on these forums more and give some props to some servers. First i’d like to say this ranger can tank cannons and players at once as yall saw. That was me laughing like a mad man when we were at the garr xD. I hope you also enjoyed my peoples dancing, Sylvari have the best there is!

We have come along way Dr from our normal being faced rolled, I guess every dog has their day, And now we’re gonna have our months next!!! Props to the following guilds.

PRO: You guys got the numbers and the right type of people to lead to glory!
RED: We are kicking some major asuras! (Yes i used that instead of the swear word) keep it up Red equals dead right? >:D!
SKY: Small manned guild, Big guns to match the best, Yall are seriously one of the back bones of the server, Also Hi Warrior Sama!!
GASM: Gasmic wheres your kitten title! Yall are great man keep up the good work, We work well as a unit and i want more of that!!
RAVE: yall are holding on the Bls for us in the mornings, We really thank ya for that. Keep up the good work your not unoticed at all!
FWAE: i think thats how the guilds spelled, KOTA yall are whoopin that booty man, there’s so many guilds out there but you guys are shining as well!!

Kain

LARP: Live Action Roleplayers…..Naw yalla re live action ninjas xD! Every time i see yalls guild i look for the other 5 that are hiding somewhere waiting to take my innocences T~T Good job bros.

KAIN: Had a good 1 on 1 with one of your commanders i believe, lets fight again some day!!!

SoS: Stop taking your servers Sos already :/ I can’t run around alone in peace when yall come the ground shakes xD!!!

Fergs

I don’t remember any ferg guilds ……Mb xD

All in all, Good figths good battles. I enjoy these wars we have, but lets have some honor/Honour as well. I respect yall and i hope we cross baldes again >:D!!!

I’m going to shout out to [SoCo] as I’ve been funneling more of my guildies into their TS channel. It was a weeknight so we only had like 16ish people, 2 from my guild (the rest were stuck fighting Lupicus). We took Anzi, lost it, ninja’d it back, and swept all the way through to Mendons where we made a meat grinder of that place. Sadly we never got to /bow over the corpses of 100 kains, but we locked it down against the small (15-20) man groups that popped their noses in.

Idk what their plans are but you may see a VERY GOOD commander by the name of Lilj come from that guild. She wipes faces, murders things with red names, and eats raw steaks for giggles. Can’t wait to see where those guys take this.

xD

Had a feeling you were in [SoCo] but alas you have no sig so I couldn’t be sure.

Some of my guild and I were running with [SoCo] last night in EB. Those guys have thier stuff together when it come to defense. We fought off 2 zergs at least twice as big at Durios, and then a huge FC zerg at quentin. It was pretty empowering.

SolarWind.5693:

Fergs cannot win without cheating. Period. Your server is a joke. Our orb was taken by Fergs. It fell on the ground while Fergs had it. One of them picked it up and glitched it. We retook the keep the orb was at but the Fergs still have the orb counted for them. Many Fergs log out to avoid death too. Cowards and little girls is what you are.

Stop blanketing an entire server with stupid accusations. Every server has its share of trash players and cheaters, the only thing dumber than them is your post.

Can someone enighten me as to whether or not siege like ballistas and arrow carts are affected by this cap?

Meh, I miss all 3 of our servers being neck and neck on the tick chart. I feel loke Ferg, long time rival of both DR and Kain, is a bit demoralized with the loss of their manpower due to fair weather players dipping.

Just know guys, that both DR and Kain have been there. It’s not permanent. Get your groups together, run small tactical assaults and defenses. You’ll wipe a lot, it’ll be frustrating, but you guys will create more organization and cooperation on your server. Big guilds aren’t the only way to WvW, I’m currently trying to do the same with my small guild.

So I ran front door of CoE for the first time yesterday with some guildies, wiped once (because I wanted to show off and do the lasers with my armor on).

Did CM butler path and wiped countless times, huge repair bills, tons of high HP trash that plummets your HP in just a few seconds.

Can someone please explain why the hardest path of one of the harder dungeons is significantly easier than an easy path of an easier dungeon?

Nov 2 I believe

No congrats for Devona’s first win? I see how it is :P

In the future if you see someone using questionable methods in WvW don’t call out their server unless you have their description and guild tags. These bad apples don’t reflect on all members of the server and the only point to calling them out is to let the server members attempt to handle it. Too much animosity brewing in these matchups, our competitiveness has gotten the better of us. Regardless of what happens with the score, still be respectful of your other servers. We’re a classy group here in the low tier, lets keep it that way.

Relax, not everyone is puffing up their chest. The obnoxious voices are rising to the top quickly, the same thing happened to Kain last week. But there are many of us on that love both Kain and Ferg. I personally respect both of you, keep fighting.

Yeah, that’s always rough ktith. We usually take ‘Hills spotting detail’ because its boring and no one else wants to do it, yet when defended south gate of hills is virtually impenetrable. It’s a glorious bloodbath for all invaders at the door when people actually defend.

@Dred

Rich Jr and Xandria Wolfkin are in the server TS from time to time. Those guys are grade A, ‘do work son’ types. Glad to see them getting recognition.

Sigh, Dred just when I was defending you in private messages. You’re a cool guy, a great player, a good commander. You point out the flaws many of our commanders have and as a DR native I respect you for that.

But this post was so incredibly self-serving and disingenuous to those who were here before. Would we have done this well this week without you guys, no. I really don’t think so, would we have done this well eventually without you guys, yeah. From you guy’s perspective, you couldn’t have seen all the changes that were taking place before you got here. I don’t want to discredit you or anything, but if anything got us stirred up to fight it was Kainengs come-from-behind win last week.

You know Kaputz yeah? He was reaching out to all WvW’ers on DR for nearly a week before PRO arrived. Many major guilds here have done some serious restructuring and collaboration that has nothing to do with PRO, and again I don’t say that to be a d*ck, it’s just true.

Frankly, I love having you guys here, I don’t like the conflict. I don’t like that the forum trashtalk has become a little less friendly. And while I’d like to win, I don’t like that it has become about ‘winning’.

Just my .02

If we’re leading, then they should ally and attack us. Knock us down a peg and keep things exciting.

“when you guys last won on DR”

Afaik, never xD

No need to bring the fights to the forums. Personally, I understand the source or [PRO]s frustration with Chris. It’s hard to watch a zerg take everything, defend nothing, and watch it get taken right back. I don’t condone the way you guys are handling this, but I understand where it comes from. I’ve had similar issues with the zerg commanders on a DR and I don’t have a nice 100g ego boost to “validate” any of my problems with it.

Scorpio Shirica.1286:

I’m kind of curious. GoM still needs a lot of help, given their recent pleas at an Alliance. Why did PRO move to this tier?

Right now the bottom tier is full of competition, good spirits, no/low queues, community, and an increase in server wide coordination. Who wouldn’t want to be here?

I propose that defense gets better rewards. It’s a boring tedious job watching a keep to see if invaders are coming to take it back, this is further exacerbated by the fact that rewards for defense are narrow and shortsighted. To my knowledge you only get rewarded if you kill an invader during the window where the event is up. That’s all well and good if you are manning an arrow cart, but what about other important things that need to be done?

Killing siege that has done damage to your walls/gates.
Repairs to walls and gates.
Rewards for an ally using your siege to kill invaders etc.

There should be an incentive to contribute your own resources for the betterment of your server.

A lovely defense at Hills today by my group and a few who showed up a bit late. Gotta admit Kain, you guys had us worried when you set up 2 trebs to bomb the gate. Felt kitten good dropping those and proceeding to siege bluelake with my own treb.

You guys have a never say die fight about you. Even when turned away, you regroup and power back through. Good show guys.

Sirenic.4275:

Hello everyone!
Leader of the guild PRO here…(Phizyn)

I just wanted to make clear that PRO has moved from Gates of Madness to Devonas Rest and we are not moving. Moving servers takes awhile for larger guilds and its rather annoying to move them all to be honest…

Anyways, just wanted to say thanks for the warm welcomes and hope we can just give you that extra boost in WvW.

-Phizyn

You guys are MORE than welcome especially with this awesome attitude. I looke forward to more coordination and cross chatter with you.

And @Fubuki:
Regardless of score you guys always put up a strong fight. I hope we stay in the same bracket the matches have been amazing these past weeks.

@Ferg
You guys are awesome too, still a strong powerhouse. Get your guilds together, all on the same page and I’ve no doubt you will continue to stomp some of us the way you have many times this week already.

3 superior carts on the top too, well out of your AoE range

Sigh…tonight wasn’t great for us. Too many zerg commanders running exp trains instead of putting men in strategic locations. Too much deconstructive cross chatter. Not enough focus on defense in important points.

Had we had 7 men at the keep, we’d had stood a chance. But this whole orb>keep thing was deconstructive and I hope that with better coordination, a commander would be able to divert some forces to avoid losing ground.

Oh and FC was blitzing our garrison, that didn’t help much.

I was mad about Etheron. We could have defended it with 4-5 people if our spotter wasnt kittening around until the gate was 75% down. We had all the siege we needed to drop that force, but not enough people or reaction time. Meh.

ktith.6197:

Looks like DR got comfy the last few hours…and the numbers show it. DR is spoiled already and is getting the red headed step child treatment atm.

Lol yeah, we’re getting stomped hard.

You’ve got an odd definition of rudeness, I’m sure it goes along the lines of:
if (agrees.withme){
rude();}
else
notRude();

Oh sure, it’s more valorous to stand and fight 5v20, but when 5 get slaughtered its another 8 silver down the drain. I think we’d prefer that go to another arrow cart so we can murder more Kains. You understand don’t you

@ktith
I agree, and out of a 400+ guild I’m sure there are those touting their superiority, and yes a member’s actions will always reflect on a guild. However, in my experience there have been far more constructive, supportive messages from PRO in /t and /m. I think it’s unfair to write off the whole guild as a nuisance until the whole guild proves otherwise. We’ve needed the help for a while, and while non [PRO] has been getting much more organized as of late, they’ve been working hard to give us some breathing room. A welcome addition in my book.

If we have conflicting opinions and personalities, which we do, it’s important to resolve them quickly and civilly, not to drag them out and kitten people off.

ktith.6197:

Presence and how you deal with the battle makes or breaks your commander status. 100g for the icon DOES NOT make you an instant commander. The problem with a lot of these ‘commanders’ is just that…“I paid my dues, now I’m a commander”. Try again.

There are many good commanders out on the maps nightly from DR that don’t have the icon, but again the problem remains that people would rather zerg for karma and xp than defend what they have or even build anything up to try to defend. You probably get as much XP/Karma from those huge epic battles we’ve had lately in EB defending Stonemist than you do on those XP trains…and best of all, you get more instant gratification for it. You also get a nice load of karma/xp/coin for taking over towers/keeps/SM etc. I’ve heard many guys talking about how they’ve gained over 12 levels the last couple of days from just the EB siege’s alone.

PRO did add numbers, but it also added headaches. That saying of “too many cooks in the kitchen” leads to bearing here. While they were in Kain’s lands most of the night, the few that were not were butting heads with the many of players that have been on DR since day one. You don’t come into someone’s home and pee in their cheerios just because you are a large guild. If anything, you guys at PRO, should have found out who the major WvW players are (guilds) and should have had a conversation with them to break the ice….not pull some (not everyone was doing it) of that Elitist craptasticness that some of your people were (PRO Members in EB). We don’t care what server you have come from (well we might depending)…but you’re on our server and disrespecting people here does not earn you any respect.

I’ve seen nothing but a “get kitten done” attitude from them since they got here. I’ve seen no attempts from them to belittle any of our server. The one argument I saw was because another commander, leading a zerg wouldn’t stop to defend anything, lost all momentum and wiped while Kain took everything back. He was called out on it by one of [PRO]s commanders and rightly so.

Zergs have their uses if they’re in coordination with structured groups, but just running around with a shiny emblem getting half the manpower on the map to follow you inevitable to their deaths just for a couple camps and a tower only to have it taken back? That’s stupid, and it needs to stop, and frankly I’ll defend anyone in /m who calls the offending commander out.

5 golems or 10, if they come for us and we’re unprepared, we’re toast. We need to make a collective and stockpile upgraded siege.

Oh man, I couldn’t agree more. I noticed an ego trip between one of our commanders and one from PRO. Everyone was talking kitten like “Oh you guys just got here, you don’t know what you’re doing” etc. But the guys from PRO was giving solid solid advice that our commander should have been listening to.

That kinda crap has to stop, but sadly I don’t see a solution to stop bad commanders from doing dumb things.

Sirenic.4275:

@Mighteous.9281

I don’t recall PRO going into EB at all yesterday, considering we just moved yesterday and we were in Kaing land the entire time. o.o

You also talk too much… don’t get ahead of yourself too quick.

He does it all the time, you’ll come to ignore it.

Come to think of it he was showering you guys with praises for your organization. I think he came from a bigger server, dropped into Kain for like a day, an then came to DR, but I may be wrong.

I think we only had one transfer, albeit a very very big one. It seems [PRO] is capable of locking down any borderlands they choose, but far be it to say that’s the only reason we’re doing so much better. I know we’ve had a few people really step up to the plate when it comes to organization. Kaputz of [GASM] for example has been relentless in getting people into teamspeak, and encouraging cross chatter amongst the various commanders.

Right now the biggest problem we have is commander ego. People are stubborn when it comes to working together and the guilds are no exception. Not to mention we have SEVERAL commanders leading zergs, taking towers, and just leaving them undefended to run headlong into the next objective until eventually the momentum is gone, supply is dry, and they are wiped or routed.

Apparently 100g makes you a tactical genius.

Jsyk, D/D eles dont have perma swiftness, and though they can trait into speed with a dagger, and speed in air, its a waste.

Yeah, and I’m a D/D ele too, but even when exhausting all my tricks (RTL, Mist, Lighting flash) I get away for all of 2 seconds. Cleanse with water to remove cripple, get hit with a dagger, cleanse again, get hit again, swap back to lightning RTL still die.

Oh and immobilize counters every escape a ele has, and somehow a thief manages to drop a 5 second immobilize on me whenever he want.

Oh and they get steal and shadowstep too, just for the additional ability to murder your face.

Basically, the smaller your group, the higher each member’s level needs to be. I ran a 5-10 man tactical group 3 in the party were less than level 55, BUT we did really well. We chose our battles, assisted one another, communicated over voip with ourselves and a map commander and stopped a few big pushes from gaining momentum.

Number 2; SIEGE.

It’s the great equalizer. Learn where and when to deploy siege and how long it takes to build it. 20-30 people fell to 4 of our arrow carts at hills south gate. They never got a ram off the ground.