Guild Wars 2

http://imgur.com/a/MBtyV

Someone uploaded that conversation which mentions Mordremoth’s corruption on Ceara, apparently will only show up if you are Sylvari.

At least that is what the Pale Tree thinks.

Ha if that is the case then Mesmer lost their sweg along the way :p But honestly then they seem want to have a higher social standard than they actually have. Still genuinely intrigued of the establishment of this Mesmer Collective if they have no issue with their power among non-Mesmer.

EDIT: nvm since we don’t know when exactly this group was founded lol

SheiyeSai.6037:

DarcShriek.5829:

Aaron Ansari.1604:

DarcShriek.5829:

zwierz.9012:

As I psoted in other thread, here is my copypasted theory:

“I think Caithe has a plan of getting close to a big bad (Mordie maybe, though I think Faolain) and needs the egg to gain that persons trust, to show she is on their side.
So she needs to steal the egg, to convince that evul person of her intentions, and then assassinate it her.
She did say “there is no time to explain”, after all. How many similar plots hidden behind “there is no time to explain” have you seen in books/movies/tv shows? Lots and lots I bet.”

She doesn’t need the egg to gain Faolain’s trust because they are lovers. She already has her trust. It’s foolish to think that Caithe is going to try to get close enough to Mordy to do a one shot kill. There’s no way a one shot kill could work.

Fair enough, but to turn the scrutiny around, how would the egg possibly be able to help the Pale Tree?

Fair question. I don’t know if I can answer it sufficiently. I believe that my vision in Omadd’s machine hints that the Pale Tree is connected to the elder dragons. I believe this because the light we approached resembled the Pale Tree and when we came out the other side, the light was the center of the sphere representing Tyria. One of the globes flew into the Tyria sphere pretty hard.

Anyways, I believe there is powerful magic in the egg. This powerful magic will somehow be used to heal the pale tree. Maybe even allow the pale tree to fulfill the role of an elder dragon. I suspect the pale tree would somehow absorb the magic in the egg. Of course, I could be way wrong.

Anyways, suddenly I hungrey for a ham, bacon and sausage omelet. Gotta go.

That vision you’re referencing is actually described more accurately here http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/The_All

This is is the most exciting thing about it, don’t you think? That “Map of the All” tome described six spheres of power which orbit “Thyria” with “the push and pull of positive and negative”, and unfortunately “the world will tilt and all beings will fall off it into the void” when these spheres happen to be unstable. We are still not really sure what are these spheres, yes, but I just can’t stop, and relating each of them to elder dragons and by all means, we’ve killed Zhaitan.

Do you think should Zhaitan still alive, the shadow of Mordremoth would have had less chance or probably not be able to attack the pale tree as Zhaitan’s presence would negate Mordremoth domination? I mean, probably there are some other factors beyond the magic that Zhaitan had kept-but-now-released. Then the egg might be used to “absorb” the magic that has been unleashed by Zhaitan or maybe to restore balance in the antykitheria mechanism or something, because it said that the six orbs and the world have “primal symbiosis” which doesn’t sound bad to me? Although I wouldn’t have the confidence to say the dragon that will hatch, and if it will hatch, is going to be an elder dragon.

Either way, Caithe probably knows more. But surely she is incapable to directly restore her Mother’s consciousness with the egg ie. knocking her head with the egg.

Hmmm that is quiet interesting to me actually. First of all, I didn’t play much GW1 so I have a little knowledge about Mesmer role then. However, I would like to know whether Mesmer is as prestigious in GW1 as it is in GW2 among human society? So far I’m just observing the simbol though. In GW1 it seems more like a group of cult but in GW2 they seems like a bunch of fabs that you want to be friend with XD

As for Asura and Sylvary, they are pretty hard to guess for me. First of all, Asura is quiet objective in regards of magic, they probably only see Mesmerism as a normal sorcery. It doesn’t really matter what organization out there and now matter how care the Asurans are, they will most likely hold fast to their own organized society and then making their little snarky experiment in their lab in Rata Sum, far from most civilizations. Second of all, Sylvary is a pretty new race to the Tyria and subject to any change to the world. However they have previous knowledge, even long before a person of that time has. But I doubt that they also know everything that happened. In case of Norn, well, they just love smash things XD

You have a fair point about thieves though, especially what happened recently in LS lol what is the name of the thieves guild?

Ugh they have to put profession personal story into the game that would be very interesting XD

EDIT: MESMERS ARE ILLUMINATI lol jk

The thing that I don’t know is when was this ‘Mesmer Collective’ established. What I’m trying to say is that I’m not sure what has happened to Mesmer in the timeline between GW1 and GW2.

Mesmer in GW1 seems to be different than in GW2 as when you compare them, including the hexes. Moreover, Mesmer symbol/icon has also been changed from that palm icon with eyes on it to a mask with butterfly shape. To me, it seems like they were sort of reshaping their image, I mean I’m not really sure if they really care that much to their publication, but hey, they are Mesmer! But again as we consider their whole profession concept, they’re the least person that can be trusted and probably the main suspect of everything (I think, though). So I think that this organization, Mesmer Collective, tried to fix this up by limiting the spell that is recorded to be learnt for everybody basically (you know, like nerf it :p), including some hexes maybe. But again, that is solely my imagination.

Since I’m not really good at lore, I don’t really know if some strong hexes have ever been mentioned in it. But don’t you thing some utility skills such as Mantra and some Manipulations seemed a bit hex-ish? And don’t forget polymorph skill, turning people into moa has never been that convenient before XD

Wait are we still talking about Hidden Arcana boss in eps 5 right?

I remember that it was Distorted Facet of Light, and it’s not the last boss, like the first one or the second. I tried the episode with 4 characters, Mesmer was the last. I would say that I realised then it was “less” fun to play with mesmer. Unlike other professions I play with (S/WH power ranger, P/P thief, staff elementalist, I used the build without any specification for the instance fyi), I was kind of forced how to do the boss with mesmer, not to use my illusions, either clones and phantasm, since they will instantly destroyed.

I know that illusion is not the only mesmer mechanics (they have mantra and everything else), but I think it would be so much better if you can play the way you want (Because the idea of if you play a certain build then you are a noob is just so stupid). Just put some drawbacks or penalties for every style the player plays, so people still can play every style they want to the fullest but still challenging.

Because, if I have to highlight my experience fighting against Distorted Facet of Light with mesmer, I only use mantra of pain and distraction and that trait to do damage when interrupt (although I wasn’t sure if I interrupted the boss :p) and only rely sword skill 1 and 2. I like the mechanism of the boss, feel challenged at first, but the fight was really long until I realise its repetitiveness and nothing challenging anymore, felt so restrained and not really fun.

EDIT: as for solution, I always think that if summons should also have immunity buff too, but for a shorter duration. idk probably for illusions (clones and phantasms) would last for 3 seconds? That would be a good time limit for a shatter mesmer to shatter the illusions and phantasm mesmer to do damage. That would be more fun and challenging I suppose.

Anyandrell.6238:

I must be doing something wrong then, because I run a phantasms/clones GS mainly mesmer and I didn’t have any issues on either tangled paths or echoes of the past. It did involve quite a bid of dodging and use of sylvari “take root”, but I did just fine, and in the facets fight my friend guardian (pretty darn good guardian otherwise) kept dying and I was rezzing them all the time. Didn’t die at all on any of the steps. Except once when I jumped in the wrong direction and went kaboom in the void under the crystalline path.
Btw, I found it an awesome detail that the minis had their own bubble in Glint’s lair and were happily bubbling along the PC.

When did you run your mesmer? Because just right after the Tangled Paths patch I use my mesmer, and during one boss fight (I didn’t remember the name, but it had a mechanism where the boss was surrounded by a lethal circle for you and you need to kill his lesser to be save inside the circle), my Illusions would instantly destroyed when I summoned it inside the circle. But I think they have fixed this problem, right?

Here http://esprits-dorr.fr/node/261 Angel McCoy confirmed that such manipulation does exist but is kept within the Mesmer community, which I believe is Mesmer Collective.

love his porn star glasses

Oh sorry my bad! I always assume that since Glint’s servant, the Forgotten, was loyal to the Six (or Five?) Gods and the Facets was reflecting the Human Gods power, Glint was also related to the Human Gods. But still, that is according to human perspective.
Anyway, I remember from a dialogue that the Forgtten helped Glint regained her freedom, although not specifically her reproduction ability as far as I remember. But I would assume dragons have peculiar reproduction system.

I don’t know if the answer will be a spoiler for you or not
Glint was brought to Tyria by the Gods to protect it. Not sure if she was already Kralkatorrik's champion or not, but she was freed by her servant, the Forgotten, long time ago. That's why she could betray Kralkatorik as her former master, because her mind was free.

Nicholas S Lin.6187:

The humans are not enslaved not because they are strong or have any strength. Its because the Charr cannot unite as one race and second because they are distracted by both the Flame Legion and the ghosts of human Ascalon. Thus the statement that humans are strong enough is actually false and a complete lie.

Of course Tyrian humanity is weak. Elona and Cantha are different continents to Tyria so must be considered separate. As in both cannot be associated in the terms of reference of this discussion. Also in case if any have missed this detail: both Krytan and Ebonhawke farmland are plagued by bandits and or beasts and renegade factions. This means that human supply lines are weak and unreliable.

Thus none can claim that humanity can hold their own in Tyria. They simply cannot. And this is truth undeniable.

The humans, in Tyria in particular, are strong enough to hold their ground until now. Especially Kryta, it rather remains stable after being united by Queen Salma. They made a more constitutional monarchy and is proven to be a continuous stable system that is valued by the citizen. They made truce with Charr because they know they could not hold on their own feet. And remember, Dougal Keane is a key character who retrieved Claw of Khan-Dur to open negotiation between the Charr and the Human.

Regarding threats, I would briefly say that Charr also got Flame Legion and Ascalonian ghosts inside their territory and Ogre that is expanding their territory. They have struggle to maintain their resources too.

These races could be both devastated if the peace treaty is broken since Mordremoth foreshadows Tyria. No one can hold their own feet in Tyria, but that is not only applied to humans in my opinion.

8.7/10 Love that name, sort of sinister XD

My Human Mesmers are Lavender Gloss and Emmerson Harvard, They are cousins