Devious(DVS)
Maybe people should stick to posting on the forums when they actually accomplish something of note. Your WvW fields a random number of pugs/guilds from your server which is hardly your full population. Your never playing in WvW without some type of advantages of some sort. It’s hardly a real competitive game mode. It will never be a “E sport” no matter how many forum posts people make. In fact if your seeking respect from your gaming peers your never even going to earn it when you get beat the entire weekend when you actually have people on the same playing field as you. I mean if you can’t win when the servers are actually all queued up and full of people in WvW then your not any good to begin with. Besides any half decent gamer doesn’t need a WvW point score to tell them who is good or bad. They already know they are far superior to you after owning you the entire weekend they played. Now they go back to their jobs Mon-Friday without giving a dam what you do during the week online. Grat’s on winning a game mode focused on casuals and having fun when a large percent of the player base is no longer playing it. Sorry you lost when it actually got competitive over the weekend. Better luck next time.
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I am replying to the fool who related WvW to a real spot when it has 0 in common. An I never said this was a sport to begin with but nice of you to chime in with irrelevant comments that has zero reference to what anyone has said.
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So when dominance is shown in Basketball or Football, we can all assume its exploits or the sport is broken?
Talent shows.
LOL! Hahahaha, this kid is comparing a competitive game with equal teams at all times. To a lop sided video game mode that favors having more players on a team at all times. Putting it nicely…You have never played a sport in your life. Football players don’t win the super bowl to forfeits. You get penalized for having more players on the field. You are very ignorant to have said this statement. Nothing is a real competition without skill being the only deciding factor. Till then your all arguing about whose the best in a game mode that clearly has none at all.
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I think he using my spec but not sure why a bow. I couldn’t hear the sound I am at work. So I guess I missed the whole trolling part.
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I was just confused an skipping around the video trying to find what the title was talking about in 37min of footage I was disappointed lol
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Did i miss something? What time in video is he soloing 20 people?
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Go Mesmer, its not even a question. Thief is one of the worst in WvW due to the HP pool and limited functions. in sieges/defence all you can really do is runnign around trying to find a place where your slow moving cluster bomb can hit.
Who would do that instead of getting 20 stacks of might running out stealing a warrior with f1 and doing a 30+k aoe dmg attack with F1. Then once they have switched targets to you cause in WvW at sieges everyone and his brother is using ranged weapons you do your whirlwind AoE and do another 30k+ dmg while reflecting all attacks back at people.. and if you get CC’ed you can just instant stealth and return to keep to repeat.. or use sword and pistol and frenzy and one shot people behind the door… so many more options then just using a bow lol. Not to mention you can pretty much instant kill one person every time you come out of the keep. Basically… Short bow is far from our only option that’s my point
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It’s not broken it’s just people being fail and grouping up and rangers walking around with their pet up, already videos made.
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Thieves make any defend event very easy.. just bring aoe stealth its cake.
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Well then you’re a little mistaken about that being off peak. Two days ago was Sunday which is not off peak.
He’s just full of it bro. He is just a baddie who brought up some old pic with slapped it on a forum with a lie to try and prove a point. Which backfired. HoD is just like every other server with nothing special about it at all. Bottom line server play times currently win matches and yours has the highest population Monday-Thursday at 10pm-7am. You think your so pro 664(166 per map) Monkeys could take the map during those days/time periods.
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Does not matter if its my peak hours or not. Bottom line is Friday-Sunday people can stay up all night (LARGE MAJORITY) Americans included and pvp. An when that happens you got steamrolled and your population advantage with a huge showing from 10pm-7am was meaningless cause your not allowed that handicap when people stay up. So you want to brag and showboat then maybe you should accomplish something of value instead of get beat down for the entire weekend when majority of the entire population of the people who purchased the game can play.
Last I checked WvW matches last a full week not just Friday-Sunday.
No one gives a kitten how long a WvW match is. My life is not changing over some stupid 7day newb fest. When I know 95% of the people playing suck. MMO’s have the largest player base. An also the largest BAD player base of all games. You think I am suppose to be impressed how well people do when I am offline? Maybe I am old but in order to get respect from my generation you actually have to play me. But maybe the kids these days would rather win by forfeit then actually having some skill.
Devious(DVS)
tell me how we are rolling nobody.
Really, now you’re just lying.
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/66611-hod-vs-sbi-vs-et-tier-of-tears/page__st__420#entry1960354
You posted that picture 2 days ago.
LOL @ Insignia ROFL!
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Does not matter if its my peak hours or not. Bottom line is Friday-Sunday people can stay up all night (LARGE MAJORITY) Americans included and pvp. An when that happens you got steamrolled and your population advantage with a huge showing from 10pm-7am was meaningless cause your not allowed that handicap when people stay up. So you want to brag and showboat then maybe you should accomplish something of value instead of get beat down for the entire weekend when majority of the entire population of the people who purchased the game can play. If you lose when most people are playing then your bad. If you win when most people are offline then your bad. No self respecting good player …hell even “Average” player would ever claim to be good when they cannot even win when competition is at it’s highest peak. That’s just for people who need a reality check it that most likely has something to do with the hours they are playing. (Bad job, Very few Responsibility’s, Unemployed, etc)
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Yep and in WvW you get Pugs filling majority of your ranks, Gear advantages , lag , “Skill capping while people offline” all of which are on a even playing field and require the most skill possible to perform to win. /end sarcasm. On the other hand everyone gets the same gear/items in the mists and you can form non pug games.. HMmm Which one requires skill again?
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Trik, all the above baddies who brag that they are sooo good cause they play on HoD would disagree with you.
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wow. you are ignorant. you dont even know where the timestamp is and when this was taken?
lol i rest my case.
oh, let me help you out.
www.guildwars2guru.com forums or check the gw2junkies podcast.
So 3:47pm on a picture of you runnning from Ruin most likely back to a keep that was upgraded during the night capping proves what exactly to those of us who are currently in a 12:57pm timezone and at work? That you suck an only win when we are not online?
Devious(DVS)
HoD is a joke. My gamer tag is on the left try to prove me wrong we can go anytime in the mists. But when you get stomped your NAME will be showing in a fraps video posted on these forums.
Devious(DVS)
tell me how we are rolling nobody.
A picture with 0 reference to the time period its taken means absolutely nothing. Where is your chat bubble replying to this forum topic? Where is the clock showing the time and date? Use your brain bro.
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Your the troll son. Pretend your good. If your not 10pm-7am you make no difference on HoD. An if you are well your playing vs no one. GJ. Add me so I can steamroll you kids in the mists.
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HoD is far from #1 we can prove it in the mists daily.
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HoD got stomped while everyone was online over the weekend. Now that the adults are back to working they are making points back. Sounds like you have a lot of children/nighttime crew or jobless people on HoD. Friday – Sunday is the real match everything else is just for the teenagers and jobless to catch up. Either way not really something to be proud of. Considering that WvW is not a show of skill and individually most players are terrible.
you know how easy it would be for me to replace your “adults” with “children” and “working” with “school”
But I won’t because it’s stupid, but maybe pointing it out will show you how stupid it sounds when you say it.
It was a nice way of putting it without calling the monday-thursday crew no lifers
i think theres another description for that…. non-americans, maybe?
It also carries a lot of assumptions such as that there is only 1 shift for work during the day. people work all different shifts, 1st shift, 2nd shift, third shift. Honestly when it comes down to it, the adults are the ones that are more able to play at off hours, because they have more diversity in when they work as opposed to children who are in school. So it’s not even just non-americans either.
It’s just ignorant on many different levels. Didn’t even bring up the fact that the maps have player caps so even when “prime time” is on, not all of them can get in anyways.
Exactly an HoD is carried by 10pm-7am thank them. I am not the ignorant one. Queue size data from 9-14 to 9-18 (NA) Check it. Grats on winning vs 30-40% of the playerbase. Haha.
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Bottom line is your only as good as the people you are playing. Winning when people are on low peak times gives you no respect. Winning vs low population servers gives you no respect. An well when people were on over the weekend you lost. So sorry if I had to put a end to your “Fantasy” even though its a fantasy game… your not pro when you can’t win Friday-Sun. So you can post all you want pretend all you want. Feel free to role-play as a champion all you want. In the end your only as good as the people you play and looks like most people are playing Friday-Sun and you came in last GG.
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HoD got stomped while everyone was online over the weekend. Now that the adults are back to working they are making points back. Sounds like you have a lot of children/nighttime crew or jobless people on HoD. Friday – Sunday is the real match everything else is just for the teenagers and jobless to catch up. Either way not really something to be proud of. Considering that WvW is not a show of skill and individually most players are terrible.
you know how easy it would be for me to replace your “adults” with “children” and “working” with “school”
But I won’t because it’s stupid, but maybe pointing it out will show you how stupid it sounds when you say it.
It was a nice way of putting it without calling the monday-thursday crew no lifers
Devious(DVS)
Exactly what garillo said. Weekends Friday – Sunday True Rankings. Monday-Thurs No Life Commitments paradise AKA carried by server population.
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LOL @ Skill from WvW comment.
95% of WvW players are terrible/average. The other 5% get overlooked cause they do not count for enough people to make a difference. But those 5% are the ones who make you cry in tourneys in the mists.
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I find it hilarious how angry you guys are at the fact that HoD is night capping if we have such a strong night presence that we just instacap everything at night how does that explain that we weren’t able to take anything during friday saturday and sunday? we have a strong night presence but I find it funny how this thread was made on the day we start winning.
Cause majority of adults have weekends off an you got beat while people could play. Next question?
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HoD got stomped while everyone was online over the weekend. Now that the adults are back to working they are making points back. Sounds like you have a lot of children/nighttime crew or jobless people on HoD. Friday – Sunday is the real match everything else is just for the teenagers and jobless to catch up. Either way not really something to be proud of. Considering that WvW is not a show of skill and individually most players are terrible.
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Nice to see an admission of the double teaming against HoD and the friendly pact SBI had between it and ET server.
You’ll probably get woeful abuse because of it now as it implicates many on SBI server for potentially exploitative abuse of the WvW mechanics in order to secure a win. Not many apart from myself and one or two others, have spoken out against this behavior by most on SBI server.
They already made a lot of Korean players quit the game because of the abuse they received for not following orders shouted at them by random people – not once even realizing they couldn’t speak/understand English very well, especially when SPAM SHOUTED at. I comforted a few and we continued our attack on Anzalia but for the most part I felt very sorry for them and what they had to endure.I’m glad though that another person from SBI has openly admitted to double teaming against HoD. I would just like ArenaNet now to investigate and ban all these people who participated in same exploitative/cheating behavior.
I don’t think you realize it’s a three way to ENSURE that there’s double teaming. Weaker servers are meant to double team stronger servers till it’s no longer in their interest to do so. This mechanic is in place so that when one server starts controlling everything, the weaker servers still have a fighting chance. The unfortunate thing is people don’t realize this and instead just choose to moan and groan about server imbalances when one server takes over the entirety of all four maps.
Does it suck to get double teamed? Yes, it does, but at a certain point armistice is no longer the best course of action for the two servers and when they start fighting again, the third can retake their holdings.
When 1 server control at least 70 percent of the map on all front, then double teaming is a good move. But when the double teamed server hold less than 30 percent of the map on all front, oh well, tough luck. What if this bracket is the highest bracket and the ‘top 2’ always double teamed on the new comer?
I don’t see any wrong in double teaming the winning team, i just think its pathetic to double team the losing team. thats all.
QQ Moar, I think I remember people saying making sure the weak stay weak is a strategy. HoD is just crying cause all the smack talk got them stomped. HoD is just a another server just like everyone else. Population carried you.
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Love how everyone always toots their horn as if individual skill plays a huge factor in WvW. I run around solo and it does not matter what server or what guild your in a vast majority of players are just average. It’s a MMO. You honestly think every single one of you can be the undisputed champion of the world? Get real, WvW are won from populations not skill. I am from Dragonbrand and even I know this.
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Dragonbrand talking smack about individual skill? You guys stink without the zerg. When we skirmish you don’t impress.
Generalizing is always a bad thing bro.
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I do feel bad for maguuma though, looks like the server quit cause of the points gap(can’t blame them for that). I myself being on Dragonbrand a thief who likes to roam and solo capture supply bases and cut off reinforcements noticed that maguuma actually had to form up a group on a commander just to take the northern supply bases back on maguuma borderlands… so ya they are clearly outnumbered and the orb buff only increases snowballing.
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It’s the same exact situation that occured with fury warriors at the start of cata. They could pop all CDs are pretty much one shot people. It was soooo incredibly easy to counter. Just CC them or kite them or remove enraged. But the point is… it does not fit in the pvp environment we are trying to create. Why would anyone want to be discredited for using a kitten utility? If it was reworked at least we would have another utility at our disposal for our builds.
Quickness utility skills are designed to temporarily increase burst damage output while decreasing the user’s defensive capabilities. All four of the quickness skills do this quite well. It’s working as intended. You may not like it, but it fits fine into ARENANET’s plan.
Glad you can speak on behalf of arena.net what position do you currently hold within the company? Opinions are never wrong everyone is allowed one. So I will be promoting the quickness change till my 5yr old little girl is unable to pvp on a game rated Teen 13 and up. But thanks for your input.
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Assuming everyone uses same pc equipment as you? I don’t use a keyboard bro. Heh.
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New video coming out today. Mist pvp+ large scale WvW pvp with thief.
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You get to swap weapons every 6seconds or so why would anyone limit themselves to one set for full duration? If i want to use the cheesy pistol whip build I generally use my daggers mainly but put 100% crit chance when I swap to my sword/pistol and 3 stacks of might. Then while I am fighting if I swap weapons I can put out a huge burst from sword/pistol and make it worse with Haste but I truly hate using these zerg builds. If you really want to see sword/pistol I can post a video I already have 2 up on the thieves forum.
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It’s the same exact situation that occured with fury warriors at the start of cata. They could pop all CDs are pretty much one shot people. It was soooo incredibly easy to counter. Just CC them or kite them or remove enraged. But the point is… it does not fit in the pvp environment we are trying to create. Why would anyone want to be discredited for using a kitten utility? If it was reworked at least we would have another utility at our disposal for our builds.
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It’s not hard to counter. At the same time it does not fit in GW2. Most players are proactive in creating a better pvp environment. Looking at the overall picture people do not need Quickness utilities to score points. It’s actually looked down upon for taking those abilities because they are for amateurs. So why even keep them as is if they are a joke? Rework them and allow them to be added to more skillful builds. If my 5year old little girl can sit on my lap and pull off a frenzy pistol whip kill it does not belong in a game for adults and should be reworked to something with more thought put into it.
Devious(DVS)
Thieves have teleports , mobility , blinds ,stealth and evades built into attacks to prevent damage how many more do you need? O_O
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Regardless of why hes posting about it. I am a thief and I think frenzy and all ability’s like it should be reworked. They don’t really feel like they fit in the type of pvp GW2 is trying to create. If they want epic 1v1’s and epic 5v5 team fights these utilities are complete garbage and just fuel zerging. The goal is to increase the skill cap of playing gw2 not reduce it. Also OP there is nothing wrong with the #3 attack. The only thing they need to change is how the Quickness utilities work.
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It’s a novice ability being exploited by zerging. Just bring some peeps with you and have them immobilize spam. An run around and spam #3 with sword/pistol. An this method is endless kills but requires people to set it up for you. It’s just a very novice set up. Easy kills but you will never be considered a good player using this method. Me personally being a thief won’t touch this set up until they actually make it require effort or I will get bored and fall asleep.
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There is no skill in using sword/pistol haste #2 combo. My little 5year old girl can pull this combo off while sitting on my lap. Fact is these attacks are being used cause they require no skill to pull off. I’m a thief. I don’t use this novice gimmick to score kills.
Devious(DVS)
I love how people try to use “Skill” as the reason they have been winning WvW when this chart clearly shows that population and when you play is greater then everything else.
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Dragobrand vs. Maguuma vs. Tarnished Coast was a fair and competitive match-up in Dragobrand’s favour when the match first began, we (Maguuma) and TC each holding our own against Dragonbrand.
…which all changed at the start of the week. With no night presence and the weekend crowd gone we started getting completely demolished, which lowered the morale of our players which meant that a lot of people stopped playing WvW, which fed back into the numbers issue and we get steam-rolled some more. Even during prime-time our maps aren’t full any more or have very short ques, so anything we do capture is lost overnight.
Sorry, but that’s not what happened. Our night presence blows we get stomped by like 10+ servers during nighttime hours. Anyways. The match was pretty close to even the first two days and Maguuma and Tarnished Coast spent a lot of time fighting each other. Dragonbrand got a slight lead I think we were up by like 15k points by the 2nd day. At this point due to free transfers people started transferring off tarnished coast and maguuma. Which just made the gap worse untill people just stopped wanting to play all together. Countless times I have see people in /map or /team saying hi I am new here transfered from TC or whatever. Wanted to play on a real WvW server. Bad news for you new transfers Dragonbrand is like 8th or 9th so if your coming here cause we are winning jokes on you we will most likely get stomped next week.
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It’s okay humorless, everyone always has a very narrow opinion and believe that what they experience is universal and no one else has any different experiences, But i know exactly what you mean about those engineers they are smart to stay in “safe zone” and wait.
Devious(DVS)
Yes I was currently referring to the skill haste. As well as all the other ones that do same exact thing for multiple classes all feel very gimmicky and out of place. Kinda supporting the whole “Zerg” feel/trend currently going on. It would increase the dynamic of pvp greatly to adjust these ability’s to something better then the current state.
Devious(DVS)
That’s what 0 Cd’s on your ability’s is for. Haste is just a gimmick.
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No class currently depends on quickness bursts. They will be toned down.
Devious(DVS)
Which imbalance would that be? Stacking all power and using Haste to burst people down in 2 clicks of sword/pistol? Or using gimmick burst specs that can kill people once per 45seconds like the backstab + 150% dmg spec? I don’t even spec power or use these. In fact the only flaw GW2 currently has is these gimmick burst specs that allow people to die instantly to players who do not know how to counter it. Which is just exploiting the new factor of this game and taking advantage of new players that get attracted to this genre of video games. Eventually those gimmick spec’s will get toned down and people will figure out what is going on so people like me are not even remotely worried about them. That an the fact we rarely die cause of it. But mostly because I don’t rely on it to get kills.
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My honest opinion is that it’s great already. I use a stealth spec on this game, it’s very powerful tool an allows you to do insane stuff. You should check out my thread WvW Solo Thief + New Video w/ Commentary. It’s under the same category as yours.
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