That is true. I don’t understand it either.
Robert, please read and answer Xsorus’s post. No one can formulate our ideas better – he mentioned everything and quoted Jon Peters, so there must be some respect to his words. It’s been a long while and you sound like “usual situation after the patch – they will get used to it and stop QQing”. Not we won’t. Cause it’s not about the patch – it’s about everything. First of all not fixing what was promised to be fixed an eternity ago.
You also mention pets, spirits, LB. So….will it take one more eternity to fix it before you buff and fix every other class in the game?
We don’t want to be the pew pew 1 shot Gods of PvP. We wan’t the diversity and perfect work and redesign of our skills and mechanics in order to PROPERLY play this class. Don’t you understand?
Nobody says that Rangers are very bad in PvP. They can kill stuff. But it could have been much more fun if they had worked properly.
Thank you, Robert, anyways. I know that you are not the one to blame. The one to blame will not appear on this forums anymore.
I personally didnt notice any significant changes in spiders
Yes, i’ve also tried it in sPvP and it was fine. Glass cannons die before they even could understand what’s happening.
However, I have problems with quick stomping. No it is nearly useless.
Yes it is. It was not able to hit targets before, and now even if it does – it makes less damage because of the pet f2 time nerf and maul damage nerf.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Little-Ranger-Tips/1404829
Some nice tips in that thread. If more rangers contributed to it, maybe we could get it stickied.
I think tons of rangers contibuted to it but only Hrouda’s topic about his kitten pets deserves to be sticked.
If core mechanics of this particular build are now broken – it won’t work. So the question is not how to make it work, the question is – is it still possible?
So can anyone say is this build still viable after the ptach? I feel like it was hurt a lot, honetsly.
From my experience and discussions with my guildies and friends, we came to the conclusion that rangers are the BEST crowd control profession, sporting (over) 3 aoe CC utilities that stun, chill, cripple and/or damage enemies, along with an an elite skill that can be used whilst mobile that has a mass CC effect (entangle, and if you’re a human and don’t mind sacrificing the mobility, you get a heal, buff and the same CC capabilities with avatar of melandru)
We have also discussed that rangers actually seem to be one of the best, if not the best, at fighting from downed position due to the pet revive and heal.
So in dungeons where you have waves of monsters that require good CC to handle, or to make the dungeon easier, (2 examples are the first 2 paths of exp AC) rangers are ideal.
You mean traps? Yes, traps are quite decent in terms of CC. Don’t forget aslo about our certain pet abilities which also can be considered as CC. But this is realy poor refund for everything other that is completely broken in our class.
Your idea is competent. Its possible but not the only reason of all our disappointment.
To bad to hear that. If so – I am even more disappointed.
Necros and engis were not much worse than we are. But they got not only fixed but buffed. QZ was not a buff. Entire forum explained you why.
You mean that boring live story that nobody cares? Yes, they release new crappy content every month and dont forget to add smthing to the TP. The grave becomes just deeper.
Well Durzlla, here I will agree with you. Well said.
It’s just a game.
Free game? No. Period.
Ok, i am sure devs have any clue in this game after recent patches.
According to Durzlla they are just fine with LB
LR is much better cause it gives you vigor. Obviously stun breaker is needed for crappy situations and you need more endurance rather than loosing the ability to heal for 5 sec.
And the thief one shots you xDDD
Oh realy? And what amazing burts your friends have with GS?
The point is GS buff is fine. But with quickness nerf even less builds are viable now.
Hey guys, Geshque’s here!
I made some obsetvations on the engineers forum after the patch which should have fixed them alot considering the size of the patchnotes. And what do you think?
Situation there is similar to our’s. Many agree that anet should better have ignored them than fixed them that way. One important trait was destroyed.
So what I am trying to say? That its not all about us – its about complete incompetence of responsible people to make it. Everything they touch seems to be doomed. So maybe it is not that bad that they still havent tried to fix us generally? Cause it feels like it may be a massive fail!
It may have helped in PvP. It hurt in PvE.
The days of F4 godly fast takedowns are over.
Nah, quickness still makes it faster then your average bear. It still throws people off. You’re just mortal now.
If you’re a ranger, you still have access to it more then anyone else and the speed takedown is still the sweetest of takedowns.
Also you get it for a second longer, and a new stunbreaker. Add a second or two to the pet swap version and that’ll just be cherry.
I can accept this. I just wish since it’s not so bursty anymore, that we can get more time in it. That extra second is nice. Helps in the non-combat situation (speed-rezzing).
Maybe another or three? Pleeeeaaaase?
OMG, dont ever show on this forums again. The longer you have quickness the longer you cant heal? 7-8 secs without heal? You must be dreaming.
You will not have another gear. Just focus on smthing else. Like never buying gems )
I dont want to shelve. I d better quit this game than reroll cause that is exactly what they want.
I doubt they will notice us not buying gems. We are not that big money income. But I will never buy them just to show my protest.
God, I like those kids playing a class in pve and killing rabbits ( even arah mobs are rabbits cause they re mobs) and trying to convince that everything ’s great cause rabbit dies from his insane DPS.
Examine all the topics on this thread and maybe if you dont have brain cancer you will realize your mistake.
I had no idea that this patch will cause so much negative. Ranger community is obviously tired. Anet, soon you ll see that at last nobody plays the class you want to erase.
You should have never revealed it. Now the whole class will be nerfed again because of this OP damage!
They seems to destroy every possible build of our profession. I wonder when traps will also be nerfed.
Someone created a kittenin build? Cmon guys, lets nerf their cats!
Yes. Enough of this.
Same here. I have an ele but all my gear..ascended infused and volcanus with arachnophobia. That alone is near 600g. No, I won’t reroll. I d better quit.
Durzlla I have always wondered about your incompetence in ranger class but now you surprised me even more. Just het to the topic called “Effect of Quickness Nerf on class DPS” near this thread and just don’t post such crap again.
I will up this post every day. I will write a petition to whoever I can. I ll make Hrouda’s PM full of my lists until he shows this thread to someone in charge. ENOUGH OF THIS. With every single topic my face becomes more and more doomed. I see no perpective here. Maybe one day they will fix us like engis, fixed this patch. But I have no time to wait. I ve waited for seven month.
Awful. I have never seen a single forum which consist only of complaints after the patch. Visit other classes’ forums. Mesmers cried a little about TW and forgot it. I am realy interested in how unqualified the balance team can be in order to mess up such a wonderful game. It’s like a single broken cog in a perfect mechanism. But it can’t work because of that cog and nobody cares that it is perfect.
Same here. I hust can’t believe that they behave this way with their customers. With us. With rangers. I don’t want to play the game which is hostile for my class preference. I don’t want to count days till the next patch to be disappointed…no….embarassed again. I don’t want to play any other class. They’ve already deleted my message where I advised everybody to reroll, so I will repeat again – REROLL. Run from this flawed class.
C’mon, Anet. Delete this message again – I don’t care. That is the only thing you’re good at.
They’d better make them smart enough to properly act in pvp and pve, and after they’re close to perfect – make them bigger, smaller, coloured, with spikes, without spikex etc. I don’t need a picture – I need a working killing machine.
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It is just pointless to argue with you.
Not it is not a buff. It is a fix, because it is intended to be so and we have waited 6 months to get this fix. Buff is something that boosts certain apects of the character. While it gives us a stun break fix it takes avay 50% of attack speed and adds 1 sec of not being healed. Buff? Just wash your glasses.
Hell, I think even if they will change QZ they will say like “u see we buffed you!” It is always like this with us, they take something or just forget to implement it, then we beg for several months to give it back- they give it and take something else.
1) And so what? Our versatility probably makes us the least wanted member of the group. And I can see no versatility – only trapper and bunker builds viable.
2) Evade after evade? Using 1h sword probably. Well, that is just fantastic.
3) I seriously doubt that ranger is one of the best in 1vX. 1v1 maybe.
4) Barrage is good but LB is crap. Entangle is easily avoided and takes only 5 targets.
I just have no desire to write all flaws in ranger mechanics. Hundreds of rangers already expressed all their complaints on forums. No other forum is more full of complaints, believe me.
Rangers are NOT useful in the group. After this patch they are even more unuseful. I just want to break the screen when I see overpowered banners standing near the boss and giving huge buffs, while my squishy poor spirits die in every single corner og the room. That is PATHETIC. I won’t argue with you, cause there are always people who will smile sitting in tons of c r a p.
That is true. They have no clue in what they’re doing. I’m tired of all this tornment. Quitting the game.
QUITTING THE 1000+ HOURS PLAYED RANGER. NUFF SAID.
Ahahahahahahha, thats epic fail definitely.
While it isn’t mentioned in the Ranger info area specifically, we also added owner Agony Resistance to pets.
Robert, talk to us! What the hell happened? What is the rational behind the changes in this patch?
Was ANet not aware of how much this quickness change would affect rangers?
What happened to addressing the longbow and spirits?
I know you’re not in charge of balance, but can you please get SOMEONE from the company who knows what’s behind all this to open some communication? I mean, get Gaile Gray if you have to!
Robert vanished from Ranger thread. I think he has nothing to say and after all he is not to blame for all this crap. He told us that we AR to soften our aggression. I am sure he knew that rangers will be laid down once again. This is pathetic.
Because they have no clue what they are doing, They make something then they need monthes to realize obvious things and fix it. Like AR for pets. Shame.
Guys let’s make something GREAT.
I mean are’t you tired of eternal disappointment with every single patch? Of nerfes? Of hopes being broken?
Lets make a RIOT. I mean the whole Ranger Community must unite in order to show Anet that this won’t go much longer. We are people, who paid 60 bucks for the game which is just lame in terms of balance! Lame in terms of Rangers!
Lets make something significant. Petitions, letters, strikes, game quits, rerolling whatever. I am open to your suggestions if you agree with me. I just don’t wont to be trolled over and over again by the devs.
Well agony is a step in the right direction!
Personally I told you that nothing will change. Robert Hrouda is just a dungeon designer. Nothing more. He can’t make any impact on the balance team. And they’re obviously out of this world. They just severely nerfed berserker ranger build. They severly nerfed our utility with quickness. While that kittening mesmer has tons of other utilities for the group besides TW – we don’t have many. Forget about that speed stomps and resses. That thing which was one of Rangers only advantages is now gone.
What next? Spirits still crap. Pets still crap. LB still crap.
GS buff? Thanks a lot. This will make a difference.
I remember times when engineers where the most bugged class after rangers. Look at patch notes and feel the difference. Amen.
Well QZ is no more an option as well as other quickness skills….huge nerf. Huge. Bravo Anet. Every kittening patch it’s just the same.