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This is just common sense, nothing more. But still pretty glad about that!

Robert Hrouda.1327:

While it isn’t mentioned in the Ranger info area specifically, we also added owner Agony Resistance to pets.

That is very cool, Robert but in had to be done long time before like the other fixes you made this patch ( revive i.e. ). It must have worked properly from the beginning. So all we have is a relatively decent buff to GS, vitality to HoM pets which almost nobody has and a big nerf to our quickness. 2 sec on swap is not enough considering that 50% reduction.

What about out squishy spirits? Our stupid pets? Will they be ever fixed?

I mean I realy appreciate your involvement but comparing to others our fixes still suck.

Maybe I missed smthing but I cat understand why are you all talking about yout builds if topic is about pets missing their targets?

So here’s my Ranger with his Arachnophobia as a Short Bow and Volcanus as a GS. I tried him to look like a twisted demon, lord of spiders, posion and fire. Think he looks exactly like I wanted. What do you guys think?

Sword rangers are often very mobile and torch benefits overall cond damage from traps. But they won’t live long enough to win agaisnt 2-3 opponents. Its just not the nature of the class )

In my opinion Ranger is not the best class for 1v2 or 1v3. Try Guardian or Warrior. Ofcourse you can go bunker BM build and its varieties but that is not much dps and you will be able only to survive against several opponents, but not win. Consider looking through recent topics – there must be some decent builds for all demands.

Nuff said. Clones just hit you if you don’t dodge. Pets don’t hit even if you don’t dodge. That’s the real problem.

Dojo.1867:

Geshque.1326:

I can disappoint you, but there will be no significant changes to ranger just as always. Though many will be glad about the AR res which I BELIEVE will be implemented at last, but it is so obvious, that such bug should have never even existed.

They already said GS will be buffed. I consider this a significant change.

We ll see )

I can disappoint you, but there will be no significant changes to ranger just as always. Though many will be glad about the AR res which I BELIEVE will be implemented at last, but it is so obvious, that such bug should have never even existed.

Axex are only an option. I use GS and SB and i don’t need any axes. Its a mechanic flaw that stupid pet can’t land a strike – I don’t need to use the weapon i don’t want just to overcome that flaw because other classes are not forced to do so. My pet MUST land his strikes, cause he is responsible for more than a half of my overall class damage. And if I could play without a pet and have full dps I would be very glad, but again Rangers are forced to utilize their pets. So if I have to live with my pet and share my damage with it please – I want it to hit targets which has no dodges but still avoid huge amounts of damage. Without any axes.

Robert Hrouda.1327:

Pretty cool writeup. I’ll have to give this a shot. I’ve made a similar pet focused build with a few variations from what you’ve described, but this sounds like it should be pretty fun.

This is actually a fun. But it could be much MUCH more fun if the pet could land every single strike on running target. 50% of time enemy player even without a dodge can avoid my pet attack. I dont speak about a player who is not aware of your jag and stands in one place, i speak about a 1 v 1 situation for example. Even im my jag is stealthed simply not standing still will help you avoid nearly half of that insane damage. Is this a flaw in the mechanics or it is supposed to be so? Cause i haven’t seen anyone avoiding tons of damage just with running against a mesmer for example. That is not how it should be – we can avoid damage through well-timed dodges but not with running circles. At least that is not fair.

As for the ranged pets – their projectiles are even easier to avoid. I mean that this build is fantastic. It’s the mechanics wich makes it feel bitter.

Chopps, thats realy good that you posted your build here but I can’t see the connection beetween it and the topic. OP complained about poor melee pet ability to land a strike on a running enemy. Ranged pets are not important here – we are talking about melee pets.

I appreciate your implementation of my suggestion about QZ in your guide, but hey – write my nick correctly please )

That’s true. I witnessed millions of times when my stealthed jaguar just can’t land more than half of his deadly crits on the moving target. Even when the enemy does not see my pet he just moves randomly and my pet can do nothing. That is realy frustrating, when you have used all that long CD utilities and your stupid pet just messed it up.

It’s always the easiest way to give up and roll to other professions. And then the game will consist only of Warriors and Guardians. Yes, it may be true if you enjoy the numbers under mobs’ heads. But if you dig deeper into the mechanics and you enjoy something slightly more difficult than clicking one button – just stick with Ranger and resist the temptation to play other classes cause that will just signal your loss.

Well I don’t feel useless at all. Well placed spirits don’t usually die and give huge benefits to the group. Today I were in CoF and my pets didn’t die even ONCE. Not a single time they were dead. Also you can youse moas to buff the party, healing spring, which is the best water field in the game, elite spirit to heal and revive allies as well as Search and Rescue. It is a bit bugged atm but when it will be fixed ( I hope so ) this will greatly contribute to ranger’s importance in the group. Yes we lack dps in terms of numbers but we can provide party with some unique opportunities on the orher hand.
I don’t wont to say that rangers dodn’t need to be fixed at last, but HEY – we are not useless.

Awesome work there bro. This is just fantastic in terms of style, design and information! I’ve just tried your build and though i was quite sceptical about our pets before, this just stunned me. Insane burst, exellent survivalability, mobility and so on.

But I just wonder if I could replace LR or SS for QZ? I ve tried it and just smashed everything on my way with all pet buffs popped up and with 4 sec of quickness! You can also pet-swap just before combat to have up to 6 sec of quickness but that’s optional. Yes LR is the only stunbreaker we have, but nevertheless what would you say about giving QZ a try?

What is State of the game??

I d rather say play Pow prec crit in solo PvE. Because in dungeons and FotM it is useless as well.

Just relax and enjoy perfect ranger design. Seems like ages since this moment people will still find bugs in this class.

Pedra.4381:

Geshque.1326:

Guys better concentrate on something realy important rather than discussing paw colors. I think that is not the main thing devs must do in order to revive our abandoned class.

Color coordination is srs bsns.

What self-respecting Ranger would want to go out with his/her pet clashing with their Quaggan or Charr backpack? This is win-win for ArenaNet. We get our pets “fixed” and they get to take credit for a color buff to Rangers.

I got that mocking intonation and want to say that it is very possible option. Something similar to the hawk icon fix ))

mystbourne.5971:

Geshque.1326:

Galtrix.7369:

Just the general MMORPG advice. For a Ranger, build on Power and Precision as well as Crit Damage and you’ll be great. As for the traits, most people do what they want and decide what works best. If you’re not a person that likes to do that, there are multiple builds on the forums all over the place. Other than the general advice, hoard money like it would save your life one day, because it probably will. Hang out with people that you like and start leveling with them/doing quests. At level 35, start doing dungeons to level up and gain money quickly. Hope this helps

First part of that post in maybe the worst advise to a new ranger ever. Never use power, prec and crt dmg build ( bers ) on ranger, cause you will die in seconds in www and pvp. You may try that in dungeons, however I don’t see reasons behind that as well. Rangers in this game are NOT like rangers in other MMOs. The can’t produce tons of damage even in bers spec and are easily outdpsed by ranged wars. Our class have major issues discussed in a nearby thread named “Robert Hrouda…”.

So, sir, i personally will recommend you speccing in a trap or BM build. Both these builds have detailed explanation on forum pages and in google. Also consider watching some videos on YouTube. You might as well want to visit a thread named “Little Ranger Tips” nearby.
But never use a glass cannon build on Ranger in this game – it pretty much lacks cannon actually.

Best wishes!

I am a Ms.
Thank you for the tips. I will check those posts out here shortly. I have always been a caster class in all other games i have played so i am way outside of my comfort zone here.
I have been looking into the BM build. I think that is the direction i am going to go in for now.

Thank you again!!!

My pleasure, Ms. ) I suggest you try elementalist or mesmer if u have always played “caster” type classes. At the moment they are way better in every single aspect of the game.

Guys better concentrate on something realy important rather than discussing paw colors. I think that is not the main thing devs must do in order to revive our abandoned class.

Galtrix.7369:

Just the general MMORPG advice. For a Ranger, build on Power and Precision as well as Crit Damage and you’ll be great. As for the traits, most people do what they want and decide what works best. If you’re not a person that likes to do that, there are multiple builds on the forums all over the place. Other than the general advice, hoard money like it would save your life one day, because it probably will. Hang out with people that you like and start leveling with them/doing quests. At level 35, start doing dungeons to level up and gain money quickly. Hope this helps

First part of that post in maybe the worst advise to a new ranger ever. Never use power, prec and crt dmg build ( bers ) on ranger, cause you will die in seconds in www and pvp. You may try that in dungeons, however I don’t see reasons behind that as well. Rangers in this game are NOT like rangers in other MMOs. The can’t produce tons of damage even in bers spec and are easily outdpsed by ranged wars. Our class have major issues discussed in a nearby thread named “Robert Hrouda…”.

So, sir, i personally will recommend you speccing in a trap or BM build. Both these builds have detailed explanation on forum pages and in google. Also consider watching some videos on YouTube. You might as well want to visit a thread named “Little Ranger Tips” nearby.
But never use a glass cannon build on Ranger in this game – it pretty much lacks cannon actually.

Best wishes!

Prysin.8542:

Geshque.1326:

Well u will get Pet AR. better then nothing but still crap

sir, hoping for a massive nerf to thiefs and mesmers, in addition to 50% increased ranger damage, permanent pet storage, full DPS to the ranger, fixed utilities and traits, in addition to rebalancing weapons and dungeon stats is almost like being religious.

You may pray all you want, but neither god nor devs tend to give you all at once. They only give you what they deem fit for the moment.

If anything, take it as a sign, if something is set in motion, improvements are bound to happen in the foreseeable future

Sir, its not like I want everything at once. It has been quite a while now and I still dont see any signs for positive changes.

Well u will get Pet AR. better then nothing but still crap

Great post. I applaud. Honestly. I feel exactly the same and i just couldnt express it better. But the date…2 months ago and not a single fix since then. I am realy sorry but it seems like Anet just dont care. Or they cant do anything, or…whatever. I d better quit the game then reroll. Amen.

Frosty and Frosty Law Firm.4981:

I get the feeling that while Hrouda means well and is being as genuine as he can be given how devs for MMOs can’t be totally transparent(for the sake of the game), that this thread is just damage control. If more players are displeased with Anet for ignoring a class in dire need of fixes, that has been in dire need of fixes since launch, that is surrounded by other classes in dire need of fixes… People are going to start quitting.

People who quit generally aren’t around to buy gems to acquire that shiny new dinky insert holiday here has brought along.

Maybe I’m not giving Anet enough credit. Maybe I’m just being paranoid. We’ll find out in due time through what is done(or not done) regarding the issues of Rangers.

I think many of us agree with you. It was Peters, now it is Hrouda, tomorrow ot will be somebody else. We can see the result in patch notes.

People will start quitting anyways if nothing will be fixed in the nearest future. There may be 3 Hroudas on this thread but if it remains only in words then people just wont listen to it anymore.

KensaiZen.3740:

What? lol seriously? I normally main a Guardian and love being godlike but my first run through AC as a ranger was still kitten easy. Now my ranger is lvl 80 with exotic weapons and 2 exotic armour pieces its even easier.

Just learn to manage your pets. I do quite well in WvW as well. Though to be fair I use signets for utilities as it makes it easier to manage the pets

Facepalm post from person with “2 exotic armor pieces”. So that is the gap between you “The One who learned to play” and all other poor rangers who did not manage to do it since launch.

Foreverlostdan.7059:

Geshque.1326:

Just dont wright this kind of thing in this thread. 7 months thousand of players who played thousands of hours on their rangers complain and beg for at least minor fixes. Send bug reports. Struggle with awful pet AI. And after that some pro ranger like you starts a topic like “i ve killed first mob and it was fun”? Just delete it or whatever.

Dude, I am not saying I am some kind of pro. I just did not see the reason for all the negative posts. Are there problems yes. Do they need addressing yes? If you are building a new toon wouldn’t you want to know what Joy / hate is soon to visit you? All I am after is whether or not this is a worthwhile character or am I wasting my time?

If there is so many negative posts then there is a reason for that and nobody needs to consider your opinion. Nothing personal, but for every flamr there is a spark.

Just dont wright this kind of thing in this thread. 7 months thousand of players who played thousands of hours on their rangers complain and beg for at least minor fixes. Send bug reports. Struggle with awful pet AI. And after that some pro ranger like you starts a topic like “i ve killed first mob and it was fun”? Just delete it or whatever.

Guys, i personally have a feeling that max that anet will do is to implement the ar for pets. Mb a dodge or something. But they will never give us 90-10% damage split. They wont redesign our traits and utilities. They will disappear again from ranger thread and live us complaining for ages. That is not going to help. If i am not mistaken there even was a petition signed by lots of players asking fixes for the class, offering solutions. And what? Silence. Silence is the best answer when you have nothing to say.

Pedra.4381:

neverborne.4736:

For a team as talented at yours, who created such a wonderful game, I have to believe that if ranger pet fixes were a top priority, they’d be completed very quickly.

I think it’s been conclusively proven that Rangers are not a priority. Most in need does not equate to interest.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Are-Rangers-a-Priority-No/first#post1571153

And all Mr. Hrouda has promised is that he’ll ensure Ranger pets are discussed in balance meetings, but he has also told us that Ranger pets have been discussed many times before. Therefore, we can conclude that discussion does not equal intent to fix.

The main and major purpose of Mr. Hrouda’s involvement on this forum has been to relieve pressure and provide an outlet for player frustration. Sadly, nothing more.

I dont want to agree with that but i have to. Looks like you’re right. That is even more shame on them to send someone to distract us and then continue to ignore our problems. But it won’t be long – you cant send someone all the time to provide an outlet. It may work once, but after the patch released with nothing again – frustration will grow even bigger. They even don’t imagine how desperate ppl will feel after being given a hope and then losing it. However not for the first time…

While i am pretty sure that Robert will not answer the post above, I wouuld like to say that I complately agree with it. Not tons of words, of proposals and other trash stuff – just raw truth. We re becoming desperate in this aspect Robert. So if u at least read this message please try to forward it to ones who is responsible for all this.

The fix may be difficult as hell, but that is not an excuse anymore – half a year passed and nothing had been done. That is the big problem.

Hey Robert!
I think that all that staff like ravens and spiders is not so important cause your next patch will be again a disapointment like “nerf, unuseful skill improvement and raven health fix”. That IS NOT what we are waiting for after 6 months of struggling with bugs and broken class mechanic. I do appreciate your desire to dialogue with us but honestly rangers have problems in general, not only in dungeons. I wonder why someone like Jon Perers wouldnt talk with us. Mb hes to busy.
But you know, there were lot of thoughts, good and bad, but all im trying to say is “ kitten i dont need a spider health fix – i need fixing awful bugs like lick wounds, i need trait synergy, i need spirits and shouts which CAN WORK and i need drastic change in pet micro”. Sounds like too much for 1 patch but hey – i personally waited and hoped for half a year! Seems that everyone in anet is aware of our problems but for a long time nothing seems to ever change
I d like not to adress my complaitns to you, Robert, cause i share great respect for what you have done to dungeons and for your willing to help, but i just cant adress to anyone else, cause nobody listens.
Thanks!

No, he was like i know it mates, but i cant do anything…

Totally agree with that. The way you treat some classes like ranger and major mechanuc flaws just makes lots of ppl think about quitting the game thus reducing your money income. So it must be your main goal to make the game enjoyable to play do that ppl can have fun and encourage their friends to buy this game thus making money for ya. Strange that such obviuos marketing dogmas dont seem to be utilized!

Cmon guys, they even close threads which they dont like. Shame

Omnio you re not right. Every single ranger want his class to work properly. Just this and nothing more. There might be plenty ppl wanting to play diffetently but all builds must be based on solid foundation which works as intented. While the whole clasd is broken we can only use that 20% of skills that realy work well. That is an issue.

Please do not post here if you are lvl 29 and know completely nothing about chars mechanic

If they dont want to say so they should better do. Atm they do neither

Well guys, so many topics here, so many suggestions and still all we get is an icon change. Just look through the patch notes and you ll see huge gap between say mesmer changes and rangers’. Its a kind of a policy when they are aware of the problems, then promised to fix them, then kittened up and pretend that nothing happened. Disgusting.

Its more reasonable to bluff like “we are working on it, dont worry” rather than be silent. Poor policy, very poor.

Are you so naive to believe someone cares what you re suggesting? Hey i realy appreciate your work but it seems that nobody reads our thread and pats attention to player suggestions. Enjoy the game the way it is or just hope that something will change before you get grandchildren.

Thats not the major problem we have. So dont kittening expect it to we fixed ever.

I tnink that you just dont need to post any suggestions because anet just dont give a kitten about all this stuff. There where tons of suggestions since launch and all we have is another hawk icon.

Hey guys, nice news here! They ve deleted my topic in the mesmer thread or moved somewhere to hell. Thats it – a complete incompetence of the dev team. Its like someone sold you a bad working TV and then moved to Bangladesh, so you cant find them. Kitten shame

Wtf is thos post? Btw other devs also reply there

I am personally dissapointed with attitude more than with a patch. Really we spent 60 $. Thats it, our job is done for them.