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Look, I’m not saying that increased loot rewards hasn’t contributed to the problem at all. Obviously it has. But when people deny that guesting has nothing to do with it, that is just plain wrong.
An overflow will still be created with 0 guests present.
Even if anet disabled guesting for a week, there would still be overflows at the world events… and I hope that they do exactly that to prove my point to all of the people complaining about guesting.
Oh look, more statements with absolutely no proof yet called someone out for not having any proof earlier.
You can undermine what I say all you want, but if/when Anet disables guesting to try and fix this problem, and people still get overflows I’m going to come back to this thread and call you out.
Go right ahead and I will take being called out like a man if we are wrong. But until then you should work on not being such a hypocrite.
Look, I’m not saying that increased loot rewards hasn’t contributed to the problem at all. Obviously it has. But when people deny that guesting has nothing to do with it, that is just plain wrong.
An overflow will still be created with 0 guests present.
Even if anet disabled guesting for a week, there would still be overflows at the world events… and I hope that they do exactly that to prove my point to all of the people complaining about guesting.
Oh look, more statements with absolutely no proof yet called someone out for not having any proof earlier.
giving people free roam to go into any server they want, at any time, to get their world chests totally has no effect what so ever. It’s not like there is this timer website that shows the timers for all servers that people can use to see which server they could get their world chest the quickest on.
This simply isn’t how it works.
Guesting is limited to 2 servers of your choice to which are locked-in for 24 hours. Thus the most impact anyone can have is being present on two servers besides their own in the course of a day. You cannot just keep hopping servers to go to every event you want whenever it is up on any server. It’s self-limiting.
If you use the timers to find the next time an event is up and go guest to it, you can then return to that server, or do the same one more time, then return to either of the two prior servers.
If this were not the case, and you could simply follow the timers to the nearest event on whichever server you saw fit, in an unlimited manner, the premise would have more merit. Additionally, if guesting allowed you to loot the chests with the same character more than once per day, you’d have people continously bouncing back and forth between the same three servers all day long to keep reclaiming the loot. But neither of those scenarios is the actual one.
It’s almost like guesting is a scapegoat in this scenario. The real “problem” is that there are so many freaking people desiring the rewards from these events. Yes, the fact that you can track the timers of other servers and choose 2 of them to guest on is likely exacerbating this problem to some degree. But it’s either way too optimistic or pessimistic, depending on your outlook, to assume it’s the culprit.
I know that is how guesting works. But 2 servers a day is enough to make it a problem. That gives you 3 servers in total to work with to get world event chests. That is more than enough to pretty much hop around to get your chests easily.
Look, I’m not saying that increased loot rewards hasn’t contributed to the problem at all. Obviously it has. But when people deny that guesting has nothing to do with it, that is just plain wrong. I’m not saying you are denying it but some people have in this topic.
Hi everyone,
We are aware of the problems with guesting and overflows and the team is also aware of this. We have forwarded them several threads – which you might join and provide us with info as well – so they can analyze.
In the interest of keeping the forums organised and having all discussion focused in one single thread we are going to close this one.
Thanks for your understanding. Hope we can give you news soon.
Sounds like ANet sees the problems guesting is causing also. Hmmmm
I’m not making a claim with no basis
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They upped the rewards from the chests, as a result more people attend the event.
When you have a lot of people in one place at the same time, you get an overflow server.
Where/when does guesting enter in to this equation?
You have just as much “proof” that better loot is the culprit as people who say guesting is the culprit…yet all the people who say that it’s guesting are inherently wrong for some reason in your eyes.
It also baffles me how you can question where guesting enters this equation…You’re right…giving people free roam to go into any server they want, at any time, to get their world chests totally has no effect what so ever. It’s not like there is this timer website that shows the timers for all servers that people can use to see which server they could get their world chest the quickest on. It’s not like people want an easier time and guest to higher pop servers for world chest events because they know more people will be there. Yeah you’re right, these things don’t fit into the equation at all.
I think the most obvious and best solution to the problem is for people who wish to participate in world events to simply SHOW UP EARLIER. The zones where these events occur are not full 24/7. They only fill up right before or during the big fights. Show up to the zone 15-20 minutes before the window and do some other dynamic events while you wait. If you are just zone hopping around to all the boss fights as they start to farm boss chests yourself, I have little sympathy. If you had gotten in, then some other chest hopper would have ended up in overflow. And until I see evidence from ANet with actual data to the contrary, I am inclined to think that this problem has absolutely nothing to do with guesting and that the maps are filling up with people from your own server.
It’s obvious that you aren’t on a high population server. 15-20 minutes before an event is no longer good enough. Try to get into queensdale for shadow behemoth 15 minutes before the window on JQ…good luck! try to get into shatterer in that time too. This isn’t an amusement park. We shouldn’t have to wait on hour long lines just to go on the ride.
Sorry if I was not as clear as I could be about the diminishing returns thing. It just seems like we aren’t on the same page. When I say diminishing returns, I mean as you increase a certain stat, the benefit you get for each point in the stat starts to diminish.
Let’s say for example toughness worked like this in the game…Let’s say toughness gave you a percentage damage reduction. 500 toughness gives you 10% damage reduction, 1000 toughness gives you 20% damage reduction…but then 1500 toughness gives 25% damage reduction. As you can see at the beginning every 500 points of toughness gave you 10% more damage reduction…but then after 1000 toughness another 500 points only gave you 5% more damage reduction. That is what I mean by diminishing returns.
Easy way to find out. Remove chest rewards for guests on world events. They can get it on their own servers. They can still come over and play 99.9% of the other content with friends. This (I think) would put this to rest if its a guest issue or not.
My experience with this has been horrible. Playing a Jade Quarry a heavy pop server already, BUT we never got overflow for world events, now we are and the lag. So in the past couple days I guested over to some light servers and guess what.. No lag, no overflow. Everyone is just putting 2 and 2 together as this started happening after guesting on every world event (at least on our server).
Anet just needs to fix this. I for one ticket this every time I encounter it. I see it as blocking a PVE event.
What proof do you have that it is players guesting and not just a heavy population of your home world players?
His proof is his experience on his server. He clearly said that he has never had overflow and lag for the big world events on JQ but right after guesting was implemented there was lag and overflow.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation
Cool you can post about logical fallacies just like every other person on the internet. I don’t understand why Miggz can’t come to a conclusion based on personal experience without being called out for not having 100% proof but it’s ok for the other guy to say it’s not guesting that’s the issue without any proof at all.
Easy way to find out. Remove chest rewards for guests on world events. They can get it on their own servers. They can still come over and play 99.9% of the other content with friends. This (I think) would put this to rest if its a guest issue or not.
My experience with this has been horrible. Playing a Jade Quarry a heavy pop server already, BUT we never got overflow for world events, now we are and the lag. So in the past couple days I guested over to some light servers and guess what.. No lag, no overflow. Everyone is just putting 2 and 2 together as this started happening after guesting on every world event (at least on our server).
Anet just needs to fix this. I for one ticket this every time I encounter it. I see it as blocking a PVE event.
What proof do you have that it is players guesting and not just a heavy population of your home world players?
I think a better way to determine if guesting is the cause would be to disable guesting for a while. If the lag at the events continues unabated, then it’s definitely not guesting.
Lag doesn’t seem to be much of an issue now. Apparently yesterday they lowered the number of people allowed in one zone before throwing people into overflow. This lowered the amount of people at each world event and the lag was gone. This was my experience on JQ yesterday. HOWEVER, with lowering the number of people allowed it made the guesting issue even worse to be honest. Yes there is no lag but now people can’t even get to their events easily because they are getting thrown into overflow in every single zone that has an event. I mean Shadow Behemoth(Queensdale) had an overflow like 45 minutes before he even came up. I even had an overflow when going to The Maw, Shatterer, Teq, Jormag and have never had ones for those zones
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Easy way to find out. Remove chest rewards for guests on world events. They can get it on their own servers. They can still come over and play 99.9% of the other content with friends. This (I think) would put this to rest if its a guest issue or not.
My experience with this has been horrible. Playing a Jade Quarry a heavy pop server already, BUT we never got overflow for world events, now we are and the lag. So in the past couple days I guested over to some light servers and guess what.. No lag, no overflow. Everyone is just putting 2 and 2 together as this started happening after guesting on every world event (at least on our server).
Anet just needs to fix this. I for one ticket this every time I encounter it. I see it as blocking a PVE event.
What proof do you have that it is players guesting and not just a heavy population of your home world players?
His proof is his experience on his server. He clearly said that he has never had overflow and lag for the big world events on JQ but right after guesting was implemented there was lag and overflow.
Limit the world chest to 1 per day per character regardless of server. Boom, solved because people won’t go guest to kill a world boss if they get no loot for it. This makes it so people only guest to play with their friends on other servers and not doing it just for the loot.
I’m pretty sure they already did that. It was possible for like a day or two and then they took it out.
Wait, are you saying it’s possible to bypass the once per day per character limit by guesting?
I’m saying it WAS possible to bypass the once per day character limit by guesting but they quickly changed that.
the fact that d/d is just plain fun to play.
Such truth in this statement. I really didn’t have much fun with any other profession and weapon combo but when I tried dual daggers out of curiosity when this game came out it just instantly got me hooked.
Ah so it was mostly about one popular player doing it and then a lot of people followed? Makes sense seeing as how stuff like that happens a lot in all games. I just find it interesting how popular it became seeing as how unpopular it was right off the bat.
I’ve had this game since(before) release day and I remember when I first started playing I tried out every single profession and tried most weapon combinations for the first couple of days. Nothing seemed to click with me until I tried out this “weird” dual dagger elementalist and absolutely loved it. Back then every elementalist you ran into used scepter or staff. I remember never seeing other elementalists with dual daggers.
After playing for a bit I took a long break from this game and just came back a few weeks ago. Now it seems like d/d elementalist is one of the most popular builds in the game. What happened when I was gone?!
Limit the world chest to 1 per day per character regardless of server. Boom, solved because people won’t go guest to kill a world boss if they get no loot for it. This makes it so people only guest to play with their friends on other servers and not doing it just for the loot.
I’m pretty sure they already did that. It was possible for like a day or two and then they took it out.
Yet that seems to be the best solution.
I’m lost now. How can it be the best solution if it’s already implemented and didn’t work?
Limit the world chest to 1 per day per character regardless of server. Boom, solved because people won’t go guest to kill a world boss if they get no loot for it. This makes it so people only guest to play with their friends on other servers and not doing it just for the loot.
I’m pretty sure they already did that. It was possible for like a day or two and then they took it out.
As in is there a sweet spot number you should be shooting for if you are playing a class that is mostly in melee range? I’m not sure if this game has diminishing returns when it comes to the armor attribute so I was wondering if there was a point where you really don’t need any more armor or toughness or whatever.
I often hear people talking about PVT but I also hear about Knight’s armor since it was suggested in that guide posted on this forum. Which do people usually use?
What server are you on? Because I recently joined Jade Quarry and whenever there is massive lag at a dragon everyone and my guild mates complain about it and say it’s never happened like this before. The blame is being put on guesting.
They’ve always been a lagfest for me. Really, did no one have lag at those things before this patch? Ever?
I rarely had lag at huge events events and when I did I would notice choppiness in my framerate and it would actually feel like I was lagging normally. This is just massive spell lag and event lag. By event lag I mean dragons themselves are lagging, getting stuck, disappearing and such. I press a button to activate a spell and it doesn’t happen for 10 seconds.
I can confirm that the Modniir Overlord meta event in Harathi Hinterlands has increased rewards.
How did you confirm this? And can you confirm you can only get the chest 1 per day?
Yeah the lag is terrible on Jade Quarry as well. I lost out on two dragons yesterday because the spell cast lag was so bad it wasn’t registering any of my hits so I didn’t get any credit. I’ve never had this happen before and I’ve been in areas with tons and tons of people. This last patch definitely messed something up. Usually in areas with tons of people you would get some fps issues but this isn’t even that….Events are lagging, dragons are lagging and getting stuck, when I move it doesn’t look like I’m lagging but it takes like 10 seconds for me to cast a spell.
If you are looking for a list of chests that got improved loot with this patch they are as follows:
1. Jormag
2. Shatterer
3. Sunless
4. Maw
5. Shadow Bohemoth
6. Fire Elemental
7. Grenth
8. Lyssa
9. Balth
10. Dwyana
11. Melendu
12. Arah
13. Zho’qafa Catacombsthese are also the ones that can only be done once a day as they are guaranteed to drop at least 1 rare with an average of about 2 rares based on my personal experience.
If anyone knows of any other chest that got improved loot please let me know so I can add it to the list.
Note: Megadestroyer did NOT get improved loot and still only drops a couple blues.Oh man thank you so much for this list! So how exactly did you get this list and how come things like the jungle wurm and harathi overlord isn’t on there? I’m not saying I don’t trust your list because the events you listed seem to be the big ones that obviously got the buff and turned into the once a day thing. but how come not jungle wurm or harathi overlord or even megadestroyer? These chests weren’t buffed? How come?
The reason they aren’t on the list is because i haven’t checked them out yet. These are the ones that I have personally done and can assure people have improved rewards. I know mega wasn’t buffed because I tried it twice and got crap as did everyone else. If someone has tried jungle wurm or overlord since the patch let me know what you got. I’ll try to hit the rest of the “big” events this week at some point.
As to why certain chests weren’t buffed you’ll have to ask Anet.
I see I see…And any chest that didn’t get buffed can be done more than once? So you were able to get megadestroyer chest twice in one day?
If you are looking for a list of chests that got improved loot with this patch they are as follows:
1. Jormag
2. Shatterer
3. Sunless
4. Maw
5. Shadow Bohemoth
6. Fire Elemental
7. Grenth
8. Lyssa
9. Balth
10. Dwyana
11. Melendu
12. Arah
13. Zho’qafa Catacombsthese are also the ones that can only be done once a day as they are guaranteed to drop at least 1 rare with an average of about 2 rares based on my personal experience.
If anyone knows of any other chest that got improved loot please let me know so I can add it to the list.
Note: Megadestroyer did NOT get improved loot and still only drops a couple blues.
Oh man thank you so much for this list! So how exactly did you get this list and how come things like the jungle wurm and harathi overlord isn’t on there? I’m not saying I don’t trust your list because the events you listed seem to be the big ones that obviously got the buff and turned into the once a day thing. but how come not jungle wurm or harathi overlord or even megadestroyer? These chests weren’t buffed? How come?
The jungle wurm is in the sylvari starter zone. The centuar leader guy at Harathi Hinterlands drops a chest (NE corner) but not as large as the dragons/temples. In Straits of Devestation is the catacomb escort that leads to a legendary eye with a chest same size as dragons/temples. http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Zho%27qafa_Catacombs
When you say the chest isn’t as large does that simply mean you don’t get as many items from it?
Also are all these chests part of the “1 chest per day” thing with the new patch? Is it all chests or only ones of a certain size?
Nice! thanks for pointing me to that. I will give that a read
Could someone possibly copy pasta the interview? (unless it’s a video) On a work computer, site is blocked
Aren’t there more than those though? I heard people talk about some jungle wurm…and some Harathi overlord and aren’t there more than 3 temples?
Before the patch all I ever did was the dragons and the maw. I’d like to do what this patch was pushing us to do…go out and do the other events to get chests. However I really don’t know where all of them are.
These are the ones I know of:
3 Dragons
The Maw
Shadow behemoth
megadestroyer
fire elemental
I know there are a lot more out there but I just don’t know where they are. Also I really don’t know how the temple things work in the Orr zones…how do I know they are up? Where exactly are they? How many are there?
I recently hit level 80 on my d/d elementalist and before I started paying lots of gold for items I wanted to get some tips. My d/d elementalist is by far my favorite character to play. The combat style is just so incredibly fun and rewarding. Constantly switching attunements and managing 20 abilities while being a melee range caster is awesome. I’d like to stick with this character but i also don’t want to be useless in dungeons and such.
Normal PvE is easy for me to do but I’ve never done a dungeon and I know they are a bit harder. Do dual dagger elementalists need to spec their traits a certain way or use certain utility abilities or focus certain stats on gear to be able to be successful in dungeons? Or can you really just do what you want?
I’m currently using all signets for my utility skills as I really like the buffs you get from them and having those passive buffs helps me focus on my 20 abilities from the daggers. I know when this game first came out stacking signets as your utilities was kind of seen as a ‘noob’ build since you really didn’t have to do much with them. However, if certain utility abilities MUST be used on a d/d elementalist please let me know and I will learn!
As for armor/stats…Are there certain stats on armor that I should be focusing? Currently I’ve been pretty much focusing power and vitality on my gear since I feel like I need a lot of survivability as I will usually be in melee range during fights. But I feel like maybe my damage is lacking. I’d like to get an idea of which stats I should be focusing more before I start shelling out gold for items.
Now onto trait points. I feel like I have my trait points just where I want them. I have 30 in fire, 20 in water and 20 in arcana. But maybe someone has a much better trait point set up they could suggest.
Hopefully some fellow d/d elementalist can give some input!