I never thought of this during Beta to test but perhaps someone could answer.
Currently, when you activate any Facet, there is an upkeep energy cost on an ongoing basis.
Facets upkeep cost can only be stopped by:
1. Running out of energy (Facets are still immediately able to be used again but no energy to do so)
2. Activating the Facet and placing it on a 15s+ cooldown
3. Changing Legendary Stance (except Facet of Nature)
What I am trying to figure out is there any way mechanically to stop a Facet while remaining in Herald/Glint and not running out of energy? i.e. Stow weapon or cancel buff mechanic. This then allows the Facet energy cost to be micro-managed without it being put on cooldown.
(Example, I want to change using Facet of Elements to Facet of Light mid-combat for the Regeneration boon; also thinking how twisting (ex-DAoC term for Paladins or I believe Bard for EQ, too old to remember ) might be able to work as I used to enjoy that playstyle and mechanic.)
Endu-Switching…. My first char once
I wish there were a way but i don’t find any way yet
how many are with me on rerolling to the Revenant, This is prolly pointless and hold 0 feedback just wanted to share my excitment to finally swap to a Rev as a Main c: the proffession is Awesome.
Palawa Joko
Turai Ossa
King Doric/Adelburn/(prince) Rurik
Undead Lich(Vizier Khilbron)
Master Togo
These are the ones I think they will choose from. Not necessarily all of them.
Nooo… Lady Althea could be fun
She would be fun but the reason why I wouldn’t think she would be a legend is because she wasn’t really… A legend. All the legends so far are people who had a big impact on the world and sadly lady Althea didn’t make a big impact
Whaaaaaat? She teached me to be a mesmer after my first footsteps in Ascalon centuries ago… And I promise I am not the only one! She is a Legend
I’m not saying you should only use Greatsword ever in very situation, but the other weapons should not eclipse Greatsword. Do you want a speed increase? Switch to Warhorn. Do you need to remove a boon? Switch to Focus. Do you need an Immobalize and some hp back? Switch to Dagger. Those are few examples, but Greatsword should be the main weapon for Reaper, not Dagger.
I have to agree with this.
Unfortunately I had the same impression playing in the BWEs, the situation where the GS was good is only to spam gravedigger under 50% HP, a DPS buff would be great.
I played this way: pullt mobs by GS5, then GS3 for LF, might and invul, GS4, RS5, RS4, AA
After using LF the most mobs will be under 50%, otherwise repeat
It doesn’t really mean anything, especially with raids coming, where you have to dps a single target for 6/7 minutes straight if not more.
You can use RS in raids too… especially with overflooting boons from everywhere LF will be incredible fast full
Sure, but nobody didn’t say you shouldn’t use RS and this has anything to do with the discussion Dagger vs Greatsword debate.
Ok, you want it… Prepare for the hardest argument you can’t beat!
I’m not saying you should only use Greatsword ever in very situation, but the other weapons should not eclipse Greatsword. Do you want a speed increase? Switch to Warhorn. Do you need to remove a boon? Switch to Focus. Do you need an Immobalize and some hp back? Switch to Dagger. Those are few examples, but Greatsword should be the main weapon for Reaper, not Dagger.
I have to agree with this.
Unfortunately I had the same impression playing in the BWEs, the situation where the GS was good is only to spam gravedigger under 50% HP, a DPS buff would be great.
I played this way: pullt mobs by GS5, then GS3 for LF, might and invul, GS4, RS5, RS4, AA
After using LF the most mobs will be under 50%, otherwise repeat
It doesn’t really mean anything, especially with raids coming, where you have to dps a single target for 6/7 minutes straight if not more.
You can use RS in raids too… especially with overflooting boons from everywhere LF will be incredible fast full
I’m not saying you should only use Greatsword ever in very situation, but the other weapons should not eclipse Greatsword. Do you want a speed increase? Switch to Warhorn. Do you need to remove a boon? Switch to Focus. Do you need an Immobalize and some hp back? Switch to Dagger. Those are few examples, but Greatsword should be the main weapon for Reaper, not Dagger.
I have to agree with this.
Unfortunately I had the same impression playing in the BWEs, the situation where the GS was good is only to spam gravedigger under 50% HP, a DPS buff would be great.
I played this way: pullt mobs by GS5, then GS3 for LF, might and invul, GS4, RS5, RS4, AA
After using LF the most mobs will be under 50%, otherwise repeat
I did enjoy the Gwand channel along the betas, He has some nice builds and skill to take advantage from them, so you can form your own opinion about the revenat after taking a look at:
You can find for every class that kind of OP videos… There are similar thing they connected: they all play against noobish players they can’t play their classes
Herald shiro is god-tier OP and I haven’t seen any notes for its nerfs prior to release. it will either get smacked down in the new patch notes, or we’ll see it in the top tier meta comps along with the chrono for the first pvp season.
Posting the same thing in multiple threads doesn’t make it any more true. Herald/Shiro is going to get wrecked by Reaper and others. The game isn’t balanced around 1v1s.
I did not lose to a single Reaper on my Herald/Shiro and I’m not even THAT good at it haha. I do think it will be top meta along with Chrono though. Even if it does get knocked down a bit. Still, it’s cool that a class I play will finally be considered top tier especially with the set I prefer to use on it. My S/D Thief has not seen much success against skilled premades.
This means it depends on the player not on the class. Nothing else. There are good ones and there are bad ones (like me )
But i don’t spread tears to nerf good players because of their OPness….
Good Reaper vs. worse Rev: Reaper wins and vice versa
haha I am trying to see it from your perspective as much as possible as I don’t think you are being a troll just misunderstanding.
It doesn’t work, simple as that. It shows the viewers time zone without changing whatever time creator has it set for, which will obviously make it wrong, i.e. not global.
In other words, depending where you open the link the total time of the count down changes depending on time zone.
Time until Friday, October 23, 2015 at 9:01:00 AM ([redacted] time)
I’m guessing it simply takes an end time and counts down to it, using basic geolocation to assume your location, but doesn’t autoshift for time zone changes.
Thus why I see it as 9:01am here when it should be ending at 3:01 here.
….. the geolocation is MY location, including MY timezone… the timer ends when HoT will release (9.01 am CEST or 12.01 am PST and yes unexspected-> 3.01 am easy coast)
What’s the problem?
its showing 9 am regardless of time zone. Says 9 am here too…and I’m in the US. So obviously doesn’t work for everyone lol.
Jesus… A timer for a global event works for everyone! Doesn’t matter where you are… HoT will released at the same time. A timer is a timer…
I can set a timer für 3.01 am east coast if you want… but both timers show the same remaining time – believe it or not O.o
Time until Friday, October 23, 2015 at 9:01:00 AM ([redacted] time)
I’m guessing it simply takes an end time and counts down to it, using basic geolocation to assume your location, but doesn’t autoshift for time zone changes.
Thus why I see it as 9:01am here when it should be ending at 3:01 here.
….. the geolocation is MY location, including MY timezone… the timer ends when HoT will release (9.01 am CEST or 12.01 am PST and yes unexspected-> 3.01 am easy coast)
What’s the problem?
its showing 9 am regardless of time zone. Says 9 am here too…and I’m in the US. So obviously doesn’t work for everyone lol.
Jesus… A timer for a global event works for everyone! Doesn’t matter where you are… HoT will released at the same time. A timer is a timer…
I can set a timer für 3.01 am east coast if you want… but both timers show the same remaining time – believe it or not O.o
Time until Friday, October 23, 2015 at 9:01:00 AM ([redacted] time)
I’m guessing it simply takes an end time and counts down to it, using basic geolocation to assume your location, but doesn’t autoshift for time zone changes.
Thus why I see it as 9:01am here when it should be ending at 3:01 here.
….. the geolocation is MY location, including MY timezone… the timer ends when HoT will release (9.01 am CEST or 12.01 am PST and yes unexspected→ 3.01 am easy coast)
I expect most people to complain about might stacking bruiser builds with loads of sustain that can sit at 25 might with a faster might ramp uptime than ever before. Some people will beg and scream for blighters boom to get an IcD.
Then i want to have ICD on Phalanx Strength too – but i heard no screaming about that
I don’t have the power infusions but have the rest. You can change some of the invocation traits if the boss does not negate attacks etc but on the whole, I will probably be running a very similar build to maximise my dps.
Seaweed salad makes a noticeable difference to dps. The 10% boon duration from the stone (combined with 15% from glint) should help keep up quickness. The only reason for staff on second set in PvE/ raids is for break bars. Once that’s nerfed, can bring a hammer for projectile blocks instead.
Reaper will deal nearly the dmg of other classes did the last 3 years… So why nerf?
maybe because it feels so strong? You know how felt the other classes until yet.
Enjoy it and participate with all the other necros out there who comes outside and want to have fun at last!
My only trouble with it is the persistant blue background circle.
it should just be the glint symbol beneath you, there is no need for this permanent blue circle that just looks like a 2001-game-icon
Yep. It could be enough to remove the background and just leave the symbol
I don’t like it when people say stuff like: “Nobody knows what to do, these professions are new” or: “You probably do too little PvP to understand”.
This is very pretentious. The game is not that complex. It’s very, very easy to learn well enough by PvP level 21 even if you’re not that smart. Veterans on this game and other similar games like to pretend that they know much more than people who’ve played less but I have to reiterate: the game is not that complex. There’s only so much to know and learn and actually I think most of us have a pretty good idea already of how to play the rev and other elite specs.
Like Ilharn said, there is counter-play. I personally promise you that counter-play exists. Stop whining and start thinking.
I’m not the one who started this argument anyway lol.
It is you guys who brought up the “95% people are clueless” theory.
Chances the people who brought up those could most likely be that 95% too, yet they always think they’re that 5%.
Also if you really do pvp “ON A NORMAL RATE” (doesn’t even need to be hardcore, just a little bit everyday), you should be rank 80 ages ago.
The ranking is SO EASY now that if you really do not need to play much to get to rank 80. Since the game is out for a very long now, If you still stay in low rank by now, it is evident enough you’re VERY NEW TO PVP, and are most likely less experience and less knowledgeable about each and every classes.
Using extremely rare out-liars of low matches skillful players as an excuse for your own inactivity, and falsely thought you’re very successful/ experience despite playing so few pvp matches is just a false assumption.
And that’s it… I am NOT that experienced in PvP… I am NOT that kind of player Who know all the tactics and classes as you do (as you said) but the noobish average player knows how to counterplay and you don’t?
You should think about why you don’t know but me. I learned it very fast and I know you can learn it too. I believe in you…
convert all damage and condition with heal skill from Glint.
Stop dmg, so there will be no heal
Lots of CC, high duration boon uptime, on demand quickness, etc.
I guess you’ve never played against classes with real lots of CC
1st: learn to fight against them, then you’ll see… they’re not OP
2nd: play rev against a player who knows how to conterplay rev… then you’ll see.. they’re not OP
I fought against classes they much more OP as you mean the rev is… Srsly!
Don’t forget: ~95% of all players don’t know how to fight against this NEW class… So ~95% thought the rev is OP… including you.
I find it funny that some people here are using this 95% people theory of people are clueless against new specializations , while they’re always that 5% elitists who know all the clues to fight new classes, and thinking their opinion is always more accurate than others.
The online funny thing is that I am PvP Level 21 and know how to counterplay rev… I am not elitist but you said you know all the classes… Think about it…
How about fight my Ranger /Guardian then?
Well, I know you have great success against new Revenant players who’re equally as clueless as you about Revenants too. The ground is equal because no-one can call themselves veterans yet when it comes to Revenant and specialization.
Also, your theory is flawed. Just because you beat x classes, who their player may probably be new too, doesn’t mean x classes is weak. This is a very weak argument since there’s no argument to begin with.
You probably do too little PVP to understand this. Everyone should be ranked 80 for a long time by now since the game is out for so long and nothing much to do anymore.
That’s nearly the point but i match up with other 80s – and the matchmaking Wirkung well we know all.
A skill can’t be OP if you can negate it that easy. UA is not inevitable, so it can’t be OP
convert all damage and condition with heal skill from Glint.
Stop dmg, so there will be no heal
Lots of CC, high duration boon uptime, on demand quickness, etc.
I guess you’ve never played against classes with real lots of CC
1st: learn to fight against them, then you’ll see… they’re not OP
2nd: play rev against a player who knows how to conterplay rev… then you’ll see.. they’re not OP
I fought against classes they much more OP as you mean the rev is… Srsly!
Don’t forget: ~95% of all players don’t know how to fight against this NEW class… So ~95% thought the rev is OP… including you.
I find it funny that some people here are using this 95% people theory of people are clueless against new specializations , while they’re always that 5% elitists who know all the clues to fight new classes, and thinking their opinion is always more accurate than others.
The only funny thing is that I am PvP Level 21 and know how to counterplay rev… I am not elitist but you said you know all the classes… Think about it…
+ Reaper is comming in next week. 20k+~ dps necro inc
20k lol
Yeah 20k. Below 50% hp necro gravedigger spam is doing around 30k dps (each Gravedigger hits for 29-40k on raids). So even if necro is doing 10k dps before that, we still have 20k dps overall
convert all damage and condition with heal skill from Glint.
Stop dmg, so there will be no heal
Lots of CC, high duration boon uptime, on demand quickness, etc.
I guess you’ve never played against classes with real lots of CC
1st: learn to fight against them, then you’ll see… they’re not OP
2nd: play rev against a player who knows how to conterplay rev… then you’ll see.. they’re not OP
I fought against classes they much more OP as you mean the rev is… Srsly!
Don’t forget: ~95% of all players don’t know how to fight against this NEW class… So ~95% thought the rev is OP… including you.
gotta hand it to the necro community calling for more nerfs on our class when nothing really changed. Its a QoL change for the better. We already have the functionality to place marks on out targets so nothing actually changed. If anything it will make it harder to zone someone by placing the mark in front of them. or even placing the mark so it will hit the most targets. I dont see how this makes us suddenly overpowering that a nerf is needed so the weak attacks of the staff
EVERY class can cast their aoe on target… Necro was just an example because there are 4 on the staff…
i tried to open one during beta weekend. i didnt see a revenant chest option. i guess wait till hot is released and hope for the best. it might be an oversight for the first few weeks.
Oh god. Well, it would be nice if someone of ANet could answer this
Overall, after the last BWE, we felt like revenant was in a solid spot. For launch we mainly focused on bug fixing and a few outliers such as changing the second hit of the sword auto-attack as well as speeding up the tablet move speed.
That’s not to say that there aren’t more things we are thinking about how to improve or tweak, but we want the profession to get in more playtime and thus more feedback before we make any more larger changes. I’m definitely reading all the feedback and taking under consideration for future changes so keep up the awesome work.
So your happy with how good it is/plays, how about how balanced it is compared to others? (core classes) for now revenant counters every other power class. and when they spec condi they also counters every condi class.
This issnt only for Rev but also for allot more new Elite specs you/Anet brought into this game. some core classes have NO place or chance anymore against new (combined) stuff you/Anet put on this class and other elites.
We need to have players get more time with them in general to see how things play out. We’ve made a lot of changes in beta weekends, but once they are live and people really spend a lot of time playing with them it will give us better data. We want non-elite spec builds to be viable as well. There will be balance patches to address and adjust things.
Yeah, feel like we can enjoy this OP class for at least a month before the nerf-hammer coming :P
Though it’s obvious some of the skills are too strong in PVP, if you guys are ok with it, then we’re ok with abusing it.
Let’s hope we don’t see a 5~20 Revs team in most contents post HoT
) might be able to work as I used to enjoy that playstyle and mechanic.)
, This is prolly pointless and hold 0 feedback just wanted to share my excitment to finally swap to a Rev as a Main c: the proffession is Awesome.
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