Guild Wars 2

Great siege on hills just now! IoJ owns all three borderlands keeps! Wooooo! As commanding officer of the group that took it, I commend you DR for your repeated (failed) attacks on our trebs and the noble defense of hills!

Alethia.3870:

JarXLite.6720:

Jaaded.1870:

Crazy night in IOJ!! How many times we all flipped that garrison was crazy! I think we all got to play in the hot tube for a lil bit!

Did you guys flip the garrison again? I left after we took it last

As of 11:12 PM PST, IoJ garrison is currently in your possession after like the 812379th time flipping it

Great fights all around today, especially that three way at Redwater Village supply camp. You guys are absolutely relentless and we love it. It’s good having that happy medium of not being absolutely rolled all the time by 30+ player zergs and still having tough fights. Looking forward to tomorrow!

The bards will sing of the “Battle of Redwater” for ages to come. In which the great commander “Tainir” (me) fought off the hordes of Devona’s Rest and Ehmry Bay invaders until finally giving her life in the line of duty… Twice. The waters ran red with blood my friends.

Jaaded.1870:

Crazy night in IOJ!! How many times we all flipped that garrison was crazy! I think we all got to play in the hot tube for a lil bit!

Did you guys flip the garrison again? I left after we took it last

Sumwun.3846:

JarXLite.6720:

Jaaded.1870:

Excellent three ways in IOJ BL SE supply this afternoon!!!

Thanks for wiping my zerg at that supply… Twice… :P

Amazing Fights out there! There was one point where Ebay were hitting us through the Thatch Choke point while IoJ would alternate with your pushes from the water. After one of the most amazing battles many of us have had in a long time, one of us says, “How the hell did we live?!”

I think most of us wondered that.

Great fights today, looking forward to tonight.

Thanks to all you all!!

Yep! That was me! That was an amazing fight!!!

Jaaded.1870:

Excellent three ways in IOJ BL SE supply this afternoon!!!

Thanks for wiping my zerg at that supply… Twice… :P

Had a blast on IoJ BL last night! I hope our golem rushes are imprinted as terror in the minds of all DR and EB player for the rest of their lives.

Hey guys! I thought I should post about how things on IoJ are getting better! Today is the best wvw day I’ve seen in the last week. We had three commanders on at one time and enough players on to actually form a zerg and compete with those gooma jerks! Also, YB decided to come join the party and we had some great3 way battles as well as individual battles against each server’s zerg. Great day!

Edit: Thanks to the goomas that decided to cheekily hide a Mesmer in our garrison. Hope you had fun with the FA zerg!

GuardianOMS.8067:

Looks like it. Beware of the Maguuma zerg.

One question… if you’re Maguuma, then why do you show two commanders inside of IoJ’s citadel? Maybe I should just go ingame and check it out though…

GuardianOMS.8067:

JarXLite.6720:

Xavi.6591:

Define ‘ahead’ exactly?

We gots more stuffs

Not so fast

Hmmmm… unless Mag just took the garrison, two towers, and three supply camps in the last 30 minutes… smells fishy

Xavi.6591:

Define ‘ahead’ exactly?

We gots more stuffs

We are also ahead of YB atm *cough*

I was just commanding them! I <3 you guys!

Hey look! We took our own IoJ garrison… finally…

Vizier.3164:

Even Crit is leaving :o thats another 500 players gone

Brb gonna go delete the IoJ server page on the wiki.

In all seriousness, though, I think we will be ones laughing once we hit gold in T6 while the guilds that left are waiting in queues.

cesmode.4257:

Jax dude, I was right with you last night man(not sure what your in game name was). But I was there last night, we pushed mag out of the northern part of our borderland! We started dabbling in the south a bit. Right as I logged off a magg zerg was taking Sunny I believe…I log in this morning at 6:25am EST, magg had every single capture point in all maps.

Its just very disappointing to see all the hardwork we did as a dedicated-spirited and devoted server, just crushed by sheer numbers (and I have only been on the server a little over a week).

I was going to write up a very similar post as you, thank you for sparing my fingers pain. We do need some guilds, large or small, or even individual players looking to work as a group, to join the fight. I don’t care if the server sits in the bottom rung of tiers. As long as we have healthy competition, without complete teeth stomping, Im fine!

Also, what did you mean, “due to the PVE nature of IoJ”? I am a heavy PVE player as well…is there a problem on the server with PVE?

Regardless…fight on IoJ. I just hope that guilds and people still find the courage, and money, to transfer over even after paid transfers begin.

Edit: Ahh, Tainir! I remember you now.

Hey! Thanks for replying, I’m sure I would remember you if I knew your name!

When I said that, I meant that most people in IoJ are content with running dungeons all day and never stepping foot in WvW except for map completion. I myself was one of those players, but lately I’ve tried to dedicate myself to helping rebuild in WvW. Hopefully, we can get more of these players into WvW but lately’ I’ve noticed a drop in population in LA and other areas, as well as WvW. It’s very concerning that this would seemingly take away so much of our total server population.

Hey Mag! I see those rams on the roof at the Titanpaw vista on IoJ BL! Get those outta there!!!!

Ever think about moving to IoJ to help rebuild? We could use all the people we can get and you definitely wouldn’t be called a bandwagoner!

Those dang quaggans…

They must be exterminated.

Erasculio.2914:

It’s interesting to see that IoJ will soon go back to fighting our eternal enemies, ET.

I assumed that we learned to hate SoR long ago. I know I do!

GuardianOMS.8067:

JarXLite.6720:

GuardianOMS.8067:

JarXLite.6720:

GuardianOMS.8067:

Toxophile.6215:

I don’t bother logging in at times like this. When one server can field over a hundred on every map, why bother? Yeah, maybe we could have some success on a single map. Maybe a second even. In the end though, I’m left with a huge dent in my cash and a few hours of some higher ticks. Whoopee.

If ANet would remove the stupid penalty for death in WvW I would be on a whole lot more.

Maguuma has been used to this since day one. We are all broke, but despite getting our teeth kicked in, we love to play. Did Yaks/IoJ never face match ups like this?

From an IoJ perspective, no. Only a few weeks ago we were fighting SoR and BG in T3!
The leaving guilds and the sudden destruction of our WvW base has had a big effect on our sever, IMO.

Dudebro, what happened to our duel?!

Seems like a running theme with these servers then. Lose a few times, after winning for so long, and they bail. So sad.

Haha! I’ll be on a little later on so add me or send me a PM/mail and we could set something up! I’m assuming that you’re a… Guardian???? lolololol ignore that awful joke.

It’s a support guardian so can’t do kitten in a 1v1. I’ll most likely be on my mesmer. If you don’t catch me today feel free to PM any time I’m on.

My crithammer guardian might have to lay some beatdown on you!

GuardianOMS.8067:

JarXLite.6720:

GuardianOMS.8067:

Toxophile.6215:

I don’t bother logging in at times like this. When one server can field over a hundred on every map, why bother? Yeah, maybe we could have some success on a single map. Maybe a second even. In the end though, I’m left with a huge dent in my cash and a few hours of some higher ticks. Whoopee.

If ANet would remove the stupid penalty for death in WvW I would be on a whole lot more.

Maguuma has been used to this since day one. We are all broke, but despite getting our teeth kicked in, we love to play. Did Yaks/IoJ never face match ups like this?

From an IoJ perspective, no. Only a few weeks ago we were fighting SoR and BG in T3!
The leaving guilds and the sudden destruction of our WvW base has had a big effect on our sever, IMO.

Dudebro, what happened to our duel?!

Seems like a running theme with these servers then. Lose a few times, after winning for so long, and they bail. So sad.

Haha! I’ll be on a little later on so add me or send me a PM/mail and we could set something up! I’m assuming that you’re a… Guardian???? lolololol ignore that awful joke.

GuardianOMS.8067:

Toxophile.6215:

I don’t bother logging in at times like this. When one server can field over a hundred on every map, why bother? Yeah, maybe we could have some success on a single map. Maybe a second even. In the end though, I’m left with a huge dent in my cash and a few hours of some higher ticks. Whoopee.

If ANet would remove the stupid penalty for death in WvW I would be on a whole lot more.

Maguuma has been used to this since day one. We are all broke, but despite getting our teeth kicked in, we love to play. Did Yaks/IoJ never face match ups like this?

From an IoJ perspective, no. Only a few weeks ago we were fighting SoR and BG in T3!
The leaving guilds and the sudden destruction of our WvW base has had a big effect on our sever, IMO.

Fror.2163:

Hello, I play on Whiteside Ridge. Not a big server, okay, but we have people playing okay.

I have an issue with how to deal with guild moving. We’ve been playing againt Gunnar’s Hold for a few weeks now. And even if they outnumber us, it was still fun. Now a few guilds of our own have joined Gunnar’s Hold. After that, it was still challenging and fun.

But this week, guys, another guild, you probably heard about them, xaoc, joined. And well, there is now no fun at all because we have absolutely no incentive to play. Because if we want to maintain our rank (4th from the bottom), we have to play. So we should enjoy that and play, but if we play too much, Gunnar’s Hold get too few points and will stay one more week with us. And we’ll be in the same situation.

Currently with their stats and the number of guilds that joined that server, Gunnar’s Hold can really get to the point where they move up 2 to 3 tiers. Hence we’re being steamrolled.

So our only option is to not play this week and get downranked and at the same time Gunnar’s Hold is upranked. But not playing WvW is not fun and it’s the option taken by the majority of the people on WSR. We still play, don’t doubt that, but we don’t put as much energy as we should because our only way to win is to lose first.

So Anet, did you foresee that scenario where in order to have fun at the earliest we need to not play? It’s a kitten dilemna. And if yes, do you have anything to counter that?

I feel your pain. Lately on IoJ we went through the process of dropping from T2 to T4, losing 20+ guilds, and are now getting hammered by Maguuma. I’m sure it’s hard for you guys as well, but think about us dropping to potentially T6-T8 from T3 and realize how much worse it could be:). Also, you guys might find that this is a good thing to happen to your server.

Lots of respect,
Tainir

Astaroth.5146:

@JarXLite: I’m really glad to see you kept your spirit high after all the transfers and that you took the role of leading your remaining troops in WvW. Small groups can still do a lot if lead proprely. A lot can be achieved with coesion Although it will most probably not lead you to victory against buffed up servers, it’ll allow your server to still have fun in WvW, it’ll allow you to gain a lot of experience, develop tactics and make you a very competitive server against other server with a larger WvW population. Eventually, you’ll end up in a fitting tier and from that moment, it’s climbing up again as your population regrow/find new interest in WvW/aquire more experience

I always tought unfortunate that Anet decided that commander tag would be bought with gold instead of WvW feats, but if you really like to lead in WvW and your community likes you. Maybe you could call for a “contribution” from your comunity to help you buy the commander tag. Suggestion that might work in your current situation But be carefull on how you use the tag if you ever get it. Player will always be drawn to the commander position so sometime it makes it harder to command multiple objectives while wearing it.

Good luck IoJ

Jezebèl – CD

Thanks man! I’ve been wrestling with the idea of buying a tag for a while as I barely have 100g saved up, although I was planning on using that to eventually buy Dawn and start on my legendary.

About how to use a commander tag, I watched one of our commanders lead about 15 players to their deaths while sieging the garrison all because he wanted to check the wall% and everyone else mindlessly followed him.

Also, sorry for the double post, I’m not sure how to reply to two posts in one post so I had to do this

Accepting donations,
Tainir

The heretic.1052:

Mohmohchan.4120:

The real guilds from ioj, the alliance, and all the stuff will always be cherished. It doesn’t matter which server you go into, it is how the guild wants to move on and do take actions into what they believe would benefit their friends/guild. IOJ will remain a pve server and it will always be. From DRGN, QQ, FIST, ND, AVTR and Hel making a difference to IOJ – I hope everyone will stay to their roots and contribute something to the benefit of their chosen server.

Love lots

Yea i talked to some players in QQ they are moving. not sure about the other guilds

QQ already moved to SBI I think.

Dee Jay.2460:

Over the past weeks I’ve been pretty vocal about why I hate the revive mechanics in this game so much and finally I’ve found a great visual example.

The revive system essentially puts a cap on what even the most skilled player is able to achieve. Take this example of a P/D Thief trolling a small group of 6 players.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYVUpNj2k_c

Now try to ignore the fact that P/D is Op and that you hate Thieves….yadda, yadda, yadda and accept the fact that the player is skilled and knows what he’s doing.

GW2 is the only MMO where you can go up against 6 players, kill 5 and still end up fighting against 6. No mechanic in this game allows a player, no matter how skilled, to overcome the ease of rezzing a dead player. Even after killing 5 players out of a group of 6, all he managed was to occupy 6 players for 7 minutes?

Is that what we have to accept as a success? Is that supposed to feel like a win?

Because it doesn’t to me and the fact that 3 players can resurrect even a defeated player in a matter of seconds has ruined any joy that I could have found in WvW.

Wow great player! I could never hope to do that!

I think what this boils down to is that reviving is a game mechanic. It is unlikely it will chance and even less likely that it will go away. I’m sure that all players want to be able to 1v6, but in the end, what’s the point of it? If you really care that much about it, maybe you should take reviving into account when you make a build. Bring knockbacks, strong AoE, etc. After you do that, I guess you need to go into WvW just to find groups of 6 or more players to kill.

GuardianOMS.8067:

Hubris.7039:

You can’t argue with success, I guess.
I’m not complaining, but this week has just not been any fun at all. I don’t expect anything to be handed to me, but this just feels like it’s too much. I don’t even feel like playing WvW at this point.

Hopefully things will balance out again soon.

Understandable. But also understand that fighting in these conditions is what makes you stronger. You learn more from your defeats than your victories, and each one will help you and your server grow, until those mistakes are in the past. For example, I’m hoping the Yaks that tried to take east keep yesterday learn the importance of contesting a keep when you are attacking it. Mistakes like that rarely matter or happen when you’re on the winning end, so there’s rarely a chance to improve.

But now you’ve got a big opportunity to learn here, take advantage of it. There are many people in Maguuma that are willing to help and teach you guys some defensive strategies. Feel free to send me a PM and I’ll hook you up with someone.

Edit: It’s ironic that the guild you are in called War is Hell.

I agree with you. From an IoJ perspective, a lot of our remaining player base is learning to do things, organize ourselves, and just get better without the help of a million commanders to lead zergs around in circles. We’re learning to play without commanders and more individuals are actually getting better at WvW instead of mindlessly following a zerg around.

GuardianOMS.8067:

JarXLite.6720:

GuardianOMS.8067:

JarXLite.6720:

I think that maybe somebody needs to hand a few towers over to IoJ wink wink

What is IoJ?

Isle of Janthir

I know, it was a joke.

Well in that case… it’s time to d-d-d-duel!

GuardianOMS.8067:

JarXLite.6720:

I think that maybe somebody needs to hand a few towers over to IoJ wink wink

What is IoJ?

Isle of Janthir

I think that maybe somebody needs to hand a few towers over to IoJ *wink wink*

I agree wholeheartedly, I think most of us are just hoping we find some good matchups in T5 or 6!

Thanks for clearing that up! Like I said, I don’t know all the details. Wish you all the best of luck as well.

First off, I would like to say that I am relatively new to posting on these forums, if anything needs to be changed please point it out

Recently, IoJ (Isle of Janthir) has had a number of guilds leave. Approximately 20 of our best (and possibly only) WvW guilds. I won’t go into depth about why this happened as I do not know all the facts, do not want to turn this into a flame thread, and because of the general confusion about what happened. The general consensus is that due to the PvE nature of IoJ and the upcoming Paid Server Transfers that a lot of guilds were forced to make a decision and it led to a “domino effect” of guilds leaving for greener pastures. Most of these guild left for T1 and T2 servers. IoJ is currently sitting in T4 and is getting stomped on by Maguuma and Yak’s Bend to the point of us only having one supply camp across all four maps at one time.

I’m not a heavy WvW player and I only play periodically but get very into it. I loaded into the IoJ Borderlands today to find a disgruntled but dedicated group of players with no commander who had just managed to take back our own Garrison. Trying to be as helpful as possible, I took the role of being a partial leader trying to organize groups of people to take different things (pretty tough without a commander tag) and after about an hour I was practically the “commander who wasn’t a commander” for our forces. In the course of that hour and a half to two hours, we were able to take back almost our entire borderlands save for a keep and maybe a tower or two. What I found over that course of time is that the remaining WvW population on IoJ is very dedicated and very (in my opinion) good at WvW. We had numerous groups of 5 – 10 players taking tower by themselves all while avoiding the single Mag zerg of ~20 people that was circling around the map. We lost and gained our garrison twice in that time span and were able to lay a very heavy siege on it due to a commander (I think his name was Nudibranch or something) that came along for a half hour or so to help out. In addition to these experiences, we were able to wipe the Mag zerg more than a few times with what seemed to be inferior numbers to theirs.

What I’ve seen in these experiences is that the remaining IoJ WvW base is amazing. They’re dedicated and can get things done. Large guilds don’t make a server good, skilled commanders and skilled players make a server good. Our biggest problem is that once we take things, we have no way of holding them. Our numbers are so few and stretched so thin that there is almost no point in even trying to defend things. One zerg can easily take whatever they want because we won’t ever be able to stop them.

About the leaving guilds, I hold no grudges and I hope that fellow IoJ players won’t either. I completely understand their point of view and was thinking about bringing that issue up with the guild I belong to myself. From the chat tonight, I got a feeling that we are glad they’re gone and actually, in some regards, enjoy being the underdogs. It gives us more freedom to learn and figure out what we are actually doing as we adjust to most likely being T5 or T6 for quite a while. What we all need to do is enjoy this new chance to rebuild.

To Maguuma and Yak’s bend, I respect you guys and wish we could put up a better fight (maybe you should cut us some slack, a few towers would do) I especially enjoyed killing stragglers around the map and, of course, wiping your zergs.

Again, big props to those I was running with and I hope to meet you all in glorious combat!

Sorry for the long post,
Tainir

Edit: Not to turn this into a recruitment thread but figured I might as well throw this in there. If any WvW guilds out there want a challenge, come help us rebuild! PM me or send me a mail ingame or go to http://isleofjanthir.net/forum/index.php and make a thread to get in contact with some people! Also, http://templarsguild.com/janthir/ is a website started by one of our remaining WvW guilds and might help you understand the situation a bit better