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There are bosses where I feel that any trick you can do that makes it easier is 100% justified; but really mossman isn’t like that.
What bosses are those that you feel it’s justified?
Vahid.
kitten Vahid.
>.< yeah he’s a pain, though if all else fails just afk at range
That’s actually not an exploit according to Chris’s guideline, it’s just poor design.
what i saw standing around lions arch today
Love it, funny thing i use the same outfit minus the hat/mustache for my “running” set for my norn mesmer
BUT the terrible exploit that hindered their precious gem store sales has been fixed. You happy?
agreed
which is why my Necro is a soldier vampire build xD
its amusing to be in a dungeon and solo the boss cause berserkers died in 1 hit. while i just go “that didn’t hurt >=D”
i’m currently experimenting mixing some knight gear in with the soldier to give me a bit of critical. but as it is i’m out damaging berserkers by a MASSIVE margin due to my durability, power, and vamperic dmg.
Please tell me he’s trollingggggggggg
No idea lol. GW2 community is hardest to read. Amount of ignorance is too kitten high.
They have to tell themselves things like that.
“Oh Those zerkers all died. But I stepped up and Solo’ed it. I sure as Heck-fire did! That’s why my way of playing is better, cause I soled it. Sure they did 90% of the damage and heck might have not all died if I had been wearing zerker gear and they hadn’t ran out of dodges! But that don’t matter a lick. I snuck into that evil zerker only group and lied though my tooth about the gear I was wearing cause they were trusting souls those evil zerkers. That will show em how my way is better. Bunch of elitist try-hards an all wanting to play efficiently”
Liars suck, and I agree with ya there.
But, the excuse that you died because you lacked dps is simply a silly one.
Outside pressure plate type gimmicks everything is soloable, with no other DPS, really no reason people should be dying if they properly prepare themselves. One of the few places I could see lack of DPS getting you killed is maybe on Lupi if you don’t bring your extra blocks/dodges/vigor and bet it all on a timewarp slowed kill or OS nonsense. There you can easily run out of dodges, but there really aren’t many places like that.
As for the quoted, I wasn’t even going to go there when I saw it, but it’s my experience doing a lot of PUGing that it’s often the zerkers finishing things off solo/duo while the clerics staff guard bites it as he eats the first half dozen attacks strait to the face.
P.S. Of course I mean no offense Talyn, I’m sure you’re a fine player (probably better than me ). I just hate that excuse.
Yeah for PVE never a bad idea to hop to Nike, Dekeyz, Obal, and really any of the DnT youtuber’s channels to check it out as well as DnT’s forums. Then there’s Brazil while no longer in DnT and possibly no longer optimized builds they’re a great start too.
Of course best to use these as a “baseline” and as you become familiar with the profession and build you’ll know where to tweak what when something is either of more use or something isn’t being used and you could maybe get a little quality of life bonus by slotting something different.
But yeah, much love for what those guys (and gal(s?)!) do (though thanks for the gw2skills link, I always liked that better as I’m more of a text guy than wanting to watch a video )
Underwater safespotting and this are not mutually exclusive fixes. Both should be done.
Why? It juts makes you certain classes that have a lot of AoE potential to solo him now. That’s the only thing that changes with this change. Why is that good?
You shouldn’t be soloing group content to begin with. It’s a fun challenge and all, but it’s testament to how inferior the PvE in this game is when you don’t require a coordinated group doing multiple tasks to defeat “top end content”.
That’s pretty common in quite every mmo, that people start to solo “group content”. But yeah, just because something is stated to do with 5 ppl doesn’t mean that you cant or shouldnt do it with less ppl.
^^ This.
Honestly we don’t really have high end content in GW2, we have group content. I made a killing selling these same types of instances in EQ back in like 2010-12
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Few simple changes I’d make.
- Tagging and moving on shouldn’t produce better rewards
- The break times are a pain to anyone who simply plays at the wrong time
- Too big of daily reward too small of regular rewards
To elaborate, first the tagging and moving on. Do not put so much of the reward on simply getting base credit for events. Either have the rewards level scale (need a gold for full blooms, silver for half, bronze gets ya nothing or smallest possible), or have the rewards given out at the spot through a chest that despawns quickly so you have to be there at the end. I’m sure more options could be thought of but you should be rewarded for going and actually contributing to finishing an event, not for simply killing one enemy and waypointing across the map. I’m sure this has been repeated endlessly though.
Break times… I logged in to the game at 8:20 this morning thinking I’d go work on this event a little. See it’s in Diessa go, and have time to catch a few events and get my 5 blooms having already done daily (which I’ll hit on next). So next up… ohh an hour break. Cool, so my goal for my playtime this morning has me waiting 1hour. What happened to the “we don’t want you to be waiting to have fun”? I realize this is not the context that quote was aiming at, but it fits none the less. If I had slept in another hour and logged in I’d have 3 hours of stuff to do without any break. It simply feels wrong.
Now, Dailies, They’re good they promote playing some every day. But now you’re asking I play 3 hours a day to get 60 blooms which would take waypointing and tagging as many events as I possibly could to match from the non daily ones. This is a weekend event, people get busy, having such a focus on getting them in each day and not letting them binge one day and go and have a life the others without seriously missing out just doesn’t feel right. Miss a day and you have to seriously work your kitten off to make up for it if you’re after one of the higher rewards. Feels a bit punishing.
Overall the event just feels terribly designed from a reward standpoint. The events are actually pretty neat, I really like the one where you kill husks to throw the bombs at the vine in the poison death field. That’s neat. But, playing that all the way through leaves me with less reward. Logging in at the wrong time has me sitting on my bum. And because I was busy I missed some dailies and now have a huge upward climb. There’s just nothing positive to say in regards to the reward system, it’s almost to the point that I feel I should just give up because I don’t think I’ll be able to get the only rewards I actually want. (thoughtless potion which I could have gotten back when it was out originally but it wasn’t usable where I’d want it, which changed right at the end of the event past the time I could have earned enough to buy one
silly me for not seeing that coming).
The event has left me very salty, and I know that’s not the feeling you want your players having.
The more I PUG the more I agree witih laokoko on this. Relying on a random person leads to disappointment no matter the profession. Best to bring everything you need for yourself. Been dead too many times because I assumed the guard/mesmer/thief/ele would do what they’re “supposed to.”
But don’t we talk about why we bring guard to a “zerker meta” group in the first place? For max deepz? Oh the irony.
:D
It’s funny, in PUGs I see a demand for meta compositions, then they’re played poorly. Yesterday’s Arah runs were an excellent example of what I was talking about though. Thief is a second too slow on SR after Ooze, no biggy, we keep going with the elites, thief gets us stealthed before the elites catch up before the run, we’re good, we make it… or well 4/5 of us. The Ele bites it, all while he’s complaining about the thief. So he’s close enough and we stealth rez, he eats it again, at this point I’m laughing. But anyways we get through tar, to Lupi, and mesmer goes in to push, but he ends up pushing him tot he center of the room so I assume as he hadn’t said he was going to push that he’s meaning to do in the open, we go in everyone dies instantly in phase 2 but me, and I suck at Lupi so I do right before phase 3 >.<. Go again, this time tells us he wants to wall, we do it, mesmer screws up, ohh well, we’re about phase 3 and we keep going. At this point Ele dies again, and begins to tell people how Lupi works and not to push him around and all that jazz… while he’s on his back. Granted Lupi can be a pain when people do him “wrong” but lessons from your back just seems odd to me, I’m used to learning from guys who solo things after I die, not that die before me
. Anyways me and I think the warrior end up finishing lupi and rest of the path went smooth. But it was funny, and a great example of “before you talk, defend yourself”
But, then the p2 run… wowza, what a doozy, we go from alphard to that safe corner by the boat, and we’re sitting there waiting for thief to catch up… and he runs up the boat! a thief… the boat… thief… boat, umm… what? I had gone warrior to fill that role and I NEVER play warrior so I screwed up skip, luckily mesmer got it and portalled us, but what an unexpected twist. Never know what a PUG will bring even if they are “meta” (and I should probably practice warrior :*( though I thought I had it but got a long range shot from a deadeye I thought I was safe from :/)
Anyways, just fun examples of why my belief is that in PUGs be prepared to solo.
Neither is completing one or all the dungeons
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Continually toss CC’s on him, and drift up slightly towards the ceiling. These things can cause him to freak out and teleport back to his spawn. After a few times of that happening the group will almost always say “screw it lets fight on land” then you get to see a bunch of people who are completely out of practice doing it correctly eat axes to their faces while you laugh and cry
I promise reading isn’t hard as well, you should try it. Where in hell did I suggest making the movement speed default on greatsword?
Really, point where. You have to pay by choosing relentless pursuit or Quickening Thirst. There’s no free run speed bonus talked about here.
And considering I’m not doing a careful boss pull before combat, I’m actually exploring and running through Dynamic Events, utility switch before combat is limited.
I would also caution to speak about “no one cares” when the thread itself has a few echoing viewpoints. If we’re trading the amounts of kittens we give about things, your approval or sympathy for my posts ranks pretty high in that huge pile of stinking kittens I don’t give.
I was gonna suggest a 25% base run for wielding greatsword,
25% base run speed on GS as gavyne suggested won’t ever happen.
Before you jump on someone for not reading, try re-reading their post ya’ll need to calm down. He clearly was referring to gavyne’s post and he even clarified that.
the 66% condi duration effect in RS is just kinda of silly strong, or at least has the capability to be. I mean in WvW you would owe them some cripple/chill if you used food/hoelbrak. I agree with those saying it’s a bit much for one traitline, and it’s a ton of overlapping options. I just don’t think it’s the best idea if the goal is to get something of value in the adept line.
Did rev get on demand Aegis in different forms? If not I think we’re good
For PVE and WvW I doubt we’ll ever be considered a bad option, not optimal in PVE maybe but we’re already sitting there, but surely nice to have.
For tPVP /shrug, as far as I understood we already weren’t an optimal selection.
Either way we’re a solid profession with many strengths, it won’t ever be an issue IMO.
Aegis is overrated. 1 block on 50+ sec cd is bad.
Guards are slowly replaced by Revenants which are straight upgrade to us.
that is true because renewd focus, retreat, courgous return, communal defense, fragements of faith and pure of voice which converts burn to aegis were magically removed from the game to support this argument.
Renewed focus is not aegis nor block.
It regen your F3 block. And that’s not the point. Aegis is way more than 1 every 50sec.
And it’s more than just A block, it’s the group block functionality that makes it so nice for guardian. One well played guardian can save a group that doesn’t know what they’re doing. That’s power right there. But, then personally it’s an integral part of our block rotation which allows us to facetank things keeping them in one spot and letting everyone focus on damage. Really Aegis is amazing, nothing to complain about with it.
Rev does seem great, somewhere between guard/war/thief, plenty of evades, offensive buffs, speed, teleports, and reflect/projectile defense. But will it replace guard? naw, it can fill some of the same niches but not really any more than a Mesmer does, and we already know that there’s a reason guards are loved in fractals, Aegis being a big reason. Condi clears and reflects again, mesmer already overlaps with us on that side, why is it an issue if Rev does now as well? Seems like we have more options but we’re still defensive kings being guards.
All this for PVE at least.
Totally, and I will admit most of the time if there’s a weird knockback, it was me forgetting turret detonate now has it or trying to swap and hit a freeze grenade but i lag and it ends up an overcharged shot, or just my fingers failing and accidently dropping a BoB then… doh… hell even doing it on purpose thinking “there’s defiance, I can get a blast and strip a stack yay” only to have someone else strip it between my activation and the explosion…. so many ways to screw it up on engi
The funny thing is the condi build actually outdoes this build in many situations
Rangers have been solid for over a year now, people have known this, still not part of the meta group comp because they lack the strong niche that the meta comp is comprised of (Stealth – THief, Offensive Support – War, Damage/blinds/awesomness – Ele, optional defensive support – Guard/Mez, side mention of portal tricks for mez).
Anyways, metabattle is pretty far behind on things and generally not the best way to get your information other than for new players just looking for a starting point.
Care to elaborate? In my experience to ask for.this party composition is the safest bet… by far. Sure, experience is the most important thing, and I had amazing runs with wierd parties… is just a mattrr of probabilities
In fact, safest bet is still good old 5 hammer guardians party. 20-25min per 50 fractal and almost complete invulnerability in most cases. Pugs dropped them after symbol bug nerf, but composition still working.
That was pretty fun XD. I’d like to try a 5 ele composition tho.
Did 5 Necro not long ago with half the group not really knowing how to play their necro (bunch of people who got the chars but never really played) Finished in !45 mins with a nice smoothish run ( I summoned them all to their deaths at Mai Trin :b)
Surprising how easy it was.
I am also up for a 5 engi run ^^… get an EU account !
:D was thinking about building one up with the f2p, but one of those things that I want to do but never have time for and all that.
Sarahfull and I have been wanting to do this for a while, but again, want to, never have time >.<
Couple of my friends have been keeping me busy for the time I can actually play which is always good, but also a little troublesome not that I’m complaining.
Did rev get on demand Aegis in different forms? If not I think we’re good
For PVE and WvW I doubt we’ll ever be considered a bad option, not optimal in PVE maybe but we’re already sitting there, but surely nice to have.
For tPVP /shrug, as far as I understood we already weren’t an optimal selection.
Either way we’re a solid profession with many strengths, it won’t ever be an issue IMO.
To me it’s the gear’s problem (by extension the stats themselves) not the content.
To me it seems more like scaling (like the OP also mentioned) and/or damage issue, I seemed to be taking less damage still in soldier’s gear but it would still kill me. Hence when they tone it down like they’ve done before the problem might be resolved, but I guess only Anet has the figures on that
Upping the effectiveness of defensive stats on gear or tweaking the scaling might have a simillar result except that fixing the gear/stats would also affect other parts of the game unless there’s something in the boss mechanics that totally nullifies gear and/or certain stats against them.
It is game-wide, that’s why the Zerker meta exists. Defensive gear doesn’t protect you enough to warrant using, so you might as well get as much damage as possible since you’re going to die either way if you get hit.
It’s not supposed to make it brainless but it certainly does make things easier. I have some defensive gear namely clerics (full ascended ) guard, and I can nearly afk in open world content. Dungeon/Fractal it still requires attention, but it does make it less stressful both on me and my team as that healing power actually helps. You don’t just slap the gear on though, you do have to put in thought to your build, grab certain traits and use the right weapon and utilities. But once you do you have some power, often overlooked and often unneeded power but power none the less.