Kind of hit on it already, Wurm, Marionette, and LA all require some divide in conquer. Problem is when you have zergers not knowing what to do it completely ruins it for everyone else actually trying. This is why my guild prefers to wait for overflow (Mainly for marionette) because people are more willing to listen and try things out it seems like in overflow. DO not know why. maybe cause they consider it a loss not making normal one or they think they might have to actually try cause it is overflow.
I am moving off this forum and focusing on each of these as separate issues. Thanks for feedback everyone. I have deducted that more people WANT GvG and Guild Halls by a large margin than that of those who do not care or do not want.
Based on what though? Have you been collecting this data for a long time now? Because there are only a handfull of posts on this thread… its not even to page 2 yet lol.
I will still keep this forum going but there are a lot of things on here it is hard to focus up one thing not many people are going to be yes yes yes to everything on here. Mainly I am talking about “Lobbying” for GvG and Guild Halls on separate forums, I really feel those two things almost everyone wants, based on this forum i guess (like you said not much feedback) and reddit, in game chatter, and passed forums from every website on gw2.
Proposal Overview
Guild Battles
Goal of Proposal
Having Large Guild battles to get more people active in PVP, increase guild cohesion, and add a new and hopefully equally fun PVP style as conquest PVP.
Proposal Functionality
Guild Battle
- Last Man standing, can revive but not respawn
- 10-20 people per team (Must all be in same Guild)
- Battle system that is not based on control points, but incentive to strike first (Middle of map Buff, etc.)
- A Ladder for guilds (For server and game wide)
- Reward system focused on players as well as the guild. (smaller reward than normal Tournaments but additional guild influence bonus to Guild) Also Guild rewards such as unlockable skins for guild tabard.
Associated Risks
1.) Temporary decline in player participation in WvWvW and in sPVP (but should return to normal levels over time.)
2.) Angry Forum Post (isn’t this a risk with ANY change in GW2?
With the lack of respectful constructive criticism in this thread, I believe it should be locked/deleted.
I am sorry that was posted right after my post? was that meant for me? SO confused
Proposal Overview
Bringing back templates for PVP
Goal of Proposal
Saving minutes (I know only minutes) it takes to switch between builds. For example time it takes to go from zerker warrior to tanky warrior, reset traits, repick traits, switch skills, switch armor, switch weapons.
Proposal Functionality
This is from Guild Wars, you used to be able to save your skills that you had set. To build on that save how you have your traits set as well. I noticed when I was trying out condition Mesmer I wanted to go back to my GS Mesmer I could not remember how I had it EXACTLY as I did before and it was frustrating. It would be nice to have saved templates of builds you like with Either Traits or Skills or BOTH. If you wanted to take it as far as armor and how you have them set up that would be really cool to. (PVP ONLY)
Associated Risks
1.). Easier to copy paste powerful builds from the internet and easily switch between them now but that is still possible now.
2.) Mass confusion and sadness when abilities are taken out or profession traits are changed. (You would have to redo all of your templates)
What type of structure would you find interesting for leagues and ladders?
sPvP is still the best and hardest play style and should remain standard for Leagues and Ladders. However I would like to see Guilds intertwined into PVP, if the idea of Guild Battles makes ANet sick fine, but maybe a way to track guilds (all their teams of 5) on ladders would be cool.
How long should a season last?
I like 4 months, year is 12 months with 4 seasons. 4 Months just feels right.
What would motivate you to play in one?
Well simply having it will make ME want to play in it. I think season skin rewards for armor and weapons, or limited rewards always seem to bring people out. If you wanted to take that further you could give Skins for armor and weapons for top team in tournys during the season. I think pvp Skins will be more and more treasured now that PVE and PVP gear are merging just make sure we can sue the skin both places.
What types of rewards would you like to see?
Armor and Weapon skins, but more importantly ones that are ONLY pvp. So when I run around in PVE people think “oh man that guy is PVP legend.”
How would a player earn these rewards?
I think now that glory is out the window, from winning tourney seem to be best way. Also for other gear or items random boxes for the losing team.
How would you encourage players of all skill levels to participate?
I think new Types of PVP systems. sPvP is amazing, but it requires a lot of skill at a lot of things. Not just your ability to kill a person 1v1. Maybe bring back some modes from GW1 as a fun alternative to get people back into the spirit of things. Training AI, dummies are fun to practice on but an AI that fought back to help out new PVPers would be nice. Rewards as mentioned before. More influence for guilds when you WIN a tournament as a guild team.
World Bosses. I remember the first time I organically stumbled into “The Maw”. Players galore jumped in to help me (low level at time) take on a world boss and it was such a unique and amazing feeling.
I am moving off this forum and focusing on each of these as separate issues. Thanks for feedback everyone. I have deducted that more people WANT GvG and Guild Halls by a large margin than that of those who do not care or do not want.
Haha Epic. Some good Research on that. This whole time I just thought Short Chars were better at PVP
Use the mystic forge to create salvage kite. It is the three salvage kits plus mystic forge piece you get a 250 salvage kit, best in game i believe. MIND BLOWN
If living story and the love of just playing now enough to hold you over than you are not wrong for leaving. Player wanted content is not as big as you would expect GW2 to be. They give you what they want, which is a love/hate. Love what they give hate what they don’t.
Jski I agree the combat is beast. You do not have to grind 400 hours to do some pvp with friends either (like in WOW), only to realize , oh man I should of done a caster…. hmm… grind 400 more hours….
NO thoughts? Alright I am done pushing for it on the forums, I will drop it. :’(
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Used to think same thing about Iron, then BAM! last living story prices freaking soared sky high. Also use to mast all crafting classes, other than that stock it to play the market, or hand it off to guildies who will be eternally thankful
sPVP is tough. I mean that as a really good thing. It is challenging, you need to be good at many things. 1v1 ability, survival 1v2+, tactics, teamwork etc. I was not all that excited about it at launch, but now it is may favorite aspect of GW2. The pvp is great, and I know lots of talk of some classes being unbalanced, but I feel that it is super balanced, and only MMO PVP i really feel like when I die it was because of something I DID wrong, not because I was outgeared by noob. Very rewarding especially for casual gamers.
Ha ha no I do not think we will gather community manager posts. This is started from a post of negative things about GW2.
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The new event in Lions Arch is pretty cool, I have been taking lots of Screen Shots of my character in there. I wonder what the rebuild will look like? Also side note I think the people in sewer will not have to rebuild.
This discussion is only for positive things with in GW2, helpful tips cool things to do or see etc. No negative talking about GW2
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. I love loot, and as it was stated your can break down gear to crafting material also you can often sell material, also luck found from breaking down gear. Maybe just increase cool skins for loot would be nice.
I know I know, stop living in the past. It seems the two biggest arguments to this are “sPVP is GB” and the infamous “WvW is for that…” Now for the first Argument, SPVP for tourney is random and not always vs guilds as much as teams of 5. Although some pride can be taken, you’re not repping a guild or building points for your guild on a ladder of some sort, or playing top teams of top guilds, so I do not accept the SPVP is GvG, as far as challenging a guild you could go to a custom arena but we all know it is not the same, although that is still possible a conquest map is not a guild BATTLE. I hardly feel like I even need to mention the second argument but since it has come up a lot, WvWvW is mass zergs fighting not a set up fight between guilds, also obviously it is guilds from other servers. I love WvWvW for what it is and would never take it out but it is not GvG. Now two quotes that upset most people…
“The question was asked about the lack of GvG. Jon Peters said, “ if players wanted GvG they should go play the original Guildwars, as Guildwars2 is meant to be a new game.” [and yea Jon, on the off chance you read this I still have the screen shot saved if you try to deny these assertions].”
-Iniquity.5290
I believe there is Guild Battles but you are looking in the wrong area. I said it before there old GvG is what the WvWvW is. No it is not the same but is similar in many aspects.
-TeaDoa.5968
To add to my list of request forum go to Lankybirds List.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Player-Request-Lankybird-s-List/first#post3695374
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I want Guild Wars, I am sorry I want Guild Battles. PvP is currently being revamped, so maybe this is to little to late. I hear very little argument that GVG (Guild vs Guild) would be a bad thing, and hear many people ask for it. So why do we not have it?
Proposal
Guild verse Guild Battles – two guilds fight, across all servers or within server (ladder for both please) in teams of 20, on large scale maps that go until no one left standing, no respawn but you may be revived. No capture points, but maps that give certain advantages within maps that give incentive to make first move. (Such as buff in middle, weapon, etc.). Guilds with a ‘home field advantage’ will select the map (perhaps one guild is good at or practiced on bringing back the feeling you got from having guild hall map to practice on in GW1, not going to get into guild halls whole other topic.) . For winning said Guild Battle guild will not only move up ladder ranks, but be rewarded with Guild Influence and or Money to guild hall. Lastly I wanted to touch on gear, since this is not sPVP I would not mind if it was not using the PVP gear (Which will be outdated soon anyways) in fact having unbalanced hard earned gear may give guilds a lot more pride and work harder at recruiting good fighters, then again since it is laddered using the “fair” gear as some call it would be totally understandable and more ANets style which I support both.
Benefit
Player Happiness, Guild Cohesion (Building stronger guild communities for PVP players that will cross over positively with PVE players) , more PVP options without changing or taking away from sPVP.
Cons
Possibly take away from WvWvW and sPvP, now I know I said it would not take anything from spvp, it would not change it or force anything different from it, but if GvG is as big as a hit as most people assume it would be less people would play sPvP and WvWvW for a while. I think it would balance back out eventually though.
Possibly force PVE – PVP guilds – Although on some levels this already exist, yes have Guild Battles would have many guilds only recruiting people for guild battles.
Request
Answer to why we do not have GvG and what can we do to show this is something the players really want?
I will agree that I too sometimes think I just miss GW1. I respect and love gw2 for all it has done but I want almost all the things gw1 had. The story I remember well from gw1, I cant even really tell you the plot of gw2, dragon messing things up and must be stopped. Defense at Lions arch was fun and interesting part I remember but thats about it, to much of the talking with random background like a comic book not as much ingame actions and cut scenes. Do not give up though, push for change and work with community for it to happen. At the end of the day Dev want to make us happy too.
Linnea, the post was great, however that focus on big changes to the game, IE New Races (which would need entire story lines) New Classes (completely change PVP) , New weapons (again game changer) and of course new worlds and bosses. Now I love any new content so yes I would be excited about all of that, but I know that those would be HUGE changes to the game that can really effect how it is played. This is just little changes that would not change much about it or how it plays just quality of life within game. Thank you for the post though.
Well I think if GW2 WANTED mounts, they would make them. I like and prefer way points, and like NOT having a mounts. This is more of an idea NOT to change what is in place but also make people who beg for mounts happy. I would suggest you are out of armor and they are purely for riding around town showing off, I say out of armor so it would be impractical to use out of cities. Just my PERSONAL idea. However overall I really agree with Harper on this, I would be happier with lots of new weapons and armor, more the better can never have enough. Mounts on list for the many people that have asked for them.
I do think this game is not made for everyone and that is ok.
That said I freaking love this game. It is my all time fave MMO. Sure the game is not perfect but what mmo is?
Star Wars Galaxies was RIP. This game is bold though, and I respect them a lot for it. Not enough credit to guild wars two, I know that people look at WOW for the end all be all of END GAME content, and I know this released around same time as SWTOR the best ingame story line possibly of all time. People kinda brush off what GW2 has done. They have broken TONS of barriers, and sure there have been some problems along the way but it has done great at fixing them and keeps working at making the game fun. Standard MMO? Nope. Standard MMO fun? Nope. This is a new and fun game I am happy to play, with more content updates than games people are paying $15.00 a month for! I have bounced back between this and WOW and SWTOR, I keep coming back to GW2. WOWs end game is just annoying to me, and I really love the communities with in GW2. SWTOR great game, but in the end PVP better on GW2, playing with skill in PVE AND PVP and not grinding for gear ownage is an adjustment but once your hooked you are hooked.
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Why do people insist on posting these topics still? Anet has already begun to address the issue with ascended/ vertical progression directly with a CDI. Regardless of what your views on it are, its not providing constructive criticism.
Why all the criticism on peoples criticisms ?
Great Idea I am putting it on the Player Choice Add ons list. I know it is a sad faced player when you are DCed at a bad time. I do not know how they could make it work in PVP but it would be nice to have player join late. late better than never.
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I liked the Guild Capes from GW1 a lot more. I DISLIKE having to pick between my amazing chest piece or a guild tabard. I want both. Anyways it would be nice to have the OPTION for a cape, if was kinda silly when EVERYONE had one in GW1. Course you could always not show it but i wore mine with pride. This is going on the list!
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Player-Wanted-Add-Ons-Lankybird-s-List/first#post3692112
I hate adding tabs for everything but if there was an activity tab (like a PVP Tab) I would probably look at it more and do them more. Most of em are pretty fun. I love that they added little mini games to do even though I often do not do them because as you said I do not like looking around for things. And by that I mean I am lazy haha.
Just quick comment this is not meant to bash ANET or GW2 staff, love this game and will keep playing with or without this content added I just wanted to bring up some stuff to kind of talk about and for GW2 staff to consider. Maybe one day the list will be brought up in a meeting and they can say yeah or no and move on but getting it to that point is more than accomplishment enough for me. These are just things I would like to be considered and if the effort is to much for ANET to justify or if it moves the game in a direction they do not want I get that, again just want these things to be discussed.
Thanks for feedback ARWEN and Elothar. To ARWEN- great ideas, the list I have hear is mostly focused on not changing the game but adding on to it, your list was pretty big to CHANGES in the game, and although I agree with some it I think ANET gonna do what ANET gonna do and a lot of thought goes into their changes on things that I am no where near caught up on enough to comment. However Number 12.) Build Editor in game I took big notice in. I agree GW1 had a template for builds and I was reading about people wanting that back in diff forum. I put it on the list I love the idea of bringing back templates for builds.
Elothar – Lot of comments on mounts haha, I personally feel the same way, if they had em cool if not cool. But I put it on the list because my friend whines about it to me every day (HeroicPanda). The list as you said is a lot of content I do not think would CHANGE the game but would be fun add on content. With the exception of 4 and 5 which are pretty radical to WvW. Thanks for input everyone keep it coming!
GW2 team making real life food using only ingredients in GW2
I think it was mentioned before but GROUP missions should not be done solo, in fact the whole idea behind Guildwars 2 was not to have questing but living events, and as such bring groups of people together continuously to fight along side each other (But still have a challenge no matter how big or small the group.). I love this, but yes as I went back to level my alt I did notice a whole lot of nobody around as I leveled (Starting areas were okay so I leveled all starting areas and was about 70 when I was done.). When you are in areas with little to no people it is frustrating because you have lots of group missions around you and no group, people may tell you just find a guild to help, but it will be hard to find a guild that continually runs around helping you mid game level your char. Another option would be to go level with them, go run world bosses and events with your guilds, your level will adjust for them and you will still be weak but its okay cause you’ll have group. But yes as you stated, if you just want to solo level 1-80 in the suggested level zones 40-70 will be boring, and you will have fast respawn areas, which will quickly humble you if you have not updated your armor to the appropriate level.
Right Wolvenra kinda hit the point I wanted to make, and as I said above, it is purely for looks and bragging rights not for any kind of speed use or even practical use. As I said before I personally do not crave or need mounts in any way but I have been told by many others they wanted them and I look at this as a community list more than anything. Thank you both for input.
Dragon Ball > Spvp… and I love SPVP. Honestly it reminded me of a game I used to play called Phantom Dust, and I loved that game a ton. Miss you Dragon Ball mini game… See you soon.
8.) Gotta spend money to make money :P. This can make the Poor rich and the rich poor. Once you buy all your gear, have all your stuff, and your alt sets…. and max matts and then some….. and oh hell just a couple 100 gold to carry around, you dunno what to do with it. I would like to gamble it all away, takes awhile at 50 silver a race. I think the Phantasy Star Universe had a cool casino feature, everyone could collect 1 casino coin a day, then try to earn enough money (Casino Money) to buy cool plush unlocks. Loved doing it and I think it could be a fun add on, again an add on that would add to the game but not change any systems in place.
I think that they may actually be doing this right now. We will see in the update launch March 18, but from what I read there is no longer going to be PVE gear and PVP gear, just gear. Now in mist the gear will just be looks etc etc still I think it would be impossible to jump around from pve to pvp all the time with your gear if it DIDNT have templates. Again we will see though. This is a very Good point though I am going to Add this to my list of player wanted add-ons for GW2.
I never try to bash anyone’s opinions, and as you said, I want always start my post with how much I love this game, and all directions it is heading. I think the “QQ” that may come up a lot is about people wanting change, ANet has said many things they do will be based off what the people want, sadly people will not always agree and a bit a trolling will happen. In the end it is worth the struggle though, because ANet is listening and will give clarification and will even make changes based of characters. For example they were going to take out player rank in the upcoming PVP expansion but players took to the forums and expressed anger about the situation, ANet is now keeping Rank. I think people show a little more QQ because they know Anet gives a crap compared to WOW.
Yes there is, took me hours to figure it out…. some in game… some online researching. This may get taken down for posting it because it is suppose to be a secret. Go to Yaks Bend way point, purchase “Shot of Justice”, it is a drink from the vendor there. Drink it. You will get “The Yak Bends Gulible Drinker” award, counts towards Daily but only on days that there are 11 instead of 12. Good hunting, and lets keep this our little secret.
In good news I think this problem will be solved within 24 hours.
I mean yeah it would be amazing. I am a slave to new armor, want new armor liek every day haha. But no really I would like to see all the Gods get armor sets released, the class specific is a good idea. As a mesmer I love mask, and hate that other people have/use them. Want more and only for me haha.
Honestly I should bring the list down to 2 things almost everyone agrees on and wants, that would not take away from Guild Wars 2 “staff philosophy” on what the game should be or direction it is heading. Guild Fights (NOT SPVP, don’t like auto finding anyone and certainly do not count a custom arena fight enough to suffice) and Guild Halls. As I said both are guild oriented (As you expect in a game called Guild Wars) and push to enhance game not change it. The player support for this is insane, and yet I do not really see much being done for it.
Yalora – Yeah that does clarify. I dabble into everything and but wouldn’t consider myself a master at anything. I think the addition of Guild PVP would be beneficial on almost every level.
1.) Unit Cohesion, hear it all the time in the Army, and Guild PvP would bring guilds closer together therefor increasing the game experience as a whole.
2.) Something New, yep something new always brings interest, but I think this would really give pvp a second chance, people would be interested in trying out something new and maybe give Spvp a second chance.
3.) More for vets- if you love SPVP then this shouldn’t make you angry, it is something extra for you, and more a good thing.
4.) Most importantly I want it, isnt that best reason ever? Seriously though Looking through even this post people either A.) Support the idea or B.) Do not do PVP so wont comment.
Yalora Thank your for input. by 1 do you mean you just do not like pvp in general? It is a push for more pvp and also a pvp system that is not about capture points. More of a fun way to battle it out with other guilds and I wouldn’t care if it was a balanced or unbalanced combat system. Personally since it would be so different I would like unbalanced to help show off guild strength. On number two thanks for the link post, it is exciting to see it in the works, I guess what I am am commenting on is the old guild zones etc. I am happy they are committing to actual guild areas though it is great to hear. I am excited to see what all features they add to guilds. 6-7 I am eager to see as well but regardless need more mini
Thanks for input Draycon, and Gele I guess Heroic Pandas not alone on mounts most people have hated the idea.
That does happen, if you are somewhat close to event (normally within 1/4th the map) it will appear. Or do you mean the entire world map shows live events? I think GW2 wants events to feel organic and random, but if you would like a map like that I use GW2Stuff.com it has a live map for each server with all the events. IF you dont mind “ALT-TAB” between game and screen, honestly it is less annoying than getting in and out of map in game haha.
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ShinningSquirrel Thank you for feed back, I tweaked number 6 for you. All of these have been suggested many times to me personally that’s why I am making a list for GW2 staff to address some of this. 1 and 2 especially. I am 100% with you on no mounts but it is something that I hear a lot of comments on that’s why I presented it.