What’s your point exactly? That the game, which released just over 3 weeks ago, hasn’t unlimited content? That you don’t have to spend most of your free time grinding dungeons to get gear that doesn’t (why exactly is g-imp censored? This is ridiculous.) you? How about you log out and come back a few days or weeks later? This is the beauty of a subscription-less model.
I don’t understand how people are not grasping the problem or the ramifications that the anti farm script and diminished returns on DEs bring about.
Let me spell it out in the most basic of the english language…..
I play a thief atm as my main.
I often play in the Cursed Shore Orr map.
It a one of only 2 (?) lvl 80 maps.
There are not many DEs to do there.
As a thief, if I personally as an individual participate in any of the DEs in the Cursed Shore, it only takes 2 DEs to get slapped with the anti farm script in regards to loot.
If I decide to kill monsters outside of the DEs to gain loot for crafting or to make money so that I can buy crafting supplies, I am only able to “grind” for approx 30mins before the anti farm script kicks in, and I get no more loot.
The anti farm script and diminishing returns prohibit productive game play on many levels……keep in mind that guild wars 2 is largely based on the premise of “killing monsters,” “taking their stuff,” “using said stuff to make new stuff.”
I had to stop playing because of this. I log in now and try to think of something productive to do and, well, there is nothing, farm for mats for a few hours…nope, farm some events….nope, run some instances…nope, so i find myself standing in one spot trolling the chat window, this isn’t fun at all.
^This
WTH is the point of playing in 30min increments. So much for paying for a game to play. GG ANET….. GG
To the nay sayers: Hit 80, lvl up your crafting, try for a legendary, try to make some gold, and then get back to us.
As the title says, what drops these 2 rare mats?
When Legendary Weapons require 100’s of such items and farming is an absolute necessity (Providing you don’t want to fork out 100’s of gold) I don’t understand how they could throttle drops.
Yes, it does take 100s of them. And that should take a long time to get, not a few days worth of farming. That’s why there’s an anti-farming throttle.
No….no….no
Anti farming script was implemented to combat Bots/Afkers. Yes, legendaries should take a long time to get. No arguement from me on the effort that it takes to obtain a legendary.
However… that being said, stopping ALL loot drops for 30-60mins once the script kicks in, and follows you across maps/mob types, is complete BS. This does not just affect the loot you were farming for, it also affects the limited DEs in Cursed Shore, and prevents you from farming different drops/mobs. It effectively forces a player to either A ) tab out/stop playing or B ) stand pretty much idle, until the script drops off.
I regularly hit this script every 30-45mins, even using a variety of spots/mobs/events. So effectively nearly HALF of my play time I am shut down due to no fault of my own and left looking for something else to do. For the time being I have filled this down time with mining and jumping challenges. What will I do once I no longer need any more ore and have finished the puzzles? As a customer/player, having roughly half of my play time stolen from me by a script intended to prevent Bots/exploits/Afk farmers spamming 1, is a load of BS no matter how you attempt to justify it.
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The patterns for these weapons can be bought in Frost Gorge at a vendor near the dragon event.
That is poor logic. Are you saying that someone who plays a game avidly should be penalized because they have a lot of free time? If I spend 6 hours playing a game while you spend 1 hour playing the game every day, why should I be on the same plane or level as you? That is not how a game should be built so I doubt that was the reason for the increasingly lowered drop rate. Also, a “full time job” doesn’t mean you can’t play for 6-8 hours per day. I know plenty of people ages 35 and up who are friends of mine with full time jobs who play this game for 6-10 hours per day. There are more then 40 hours in a week, what you do with the other time is up to you.
Penalized? No, but discourage farming and botting. So it is not poor logic but one that you seem not to understand or like. And the ones with 6-10 hours and a job surely have no wife or children or any other life (or do not sleep). I think you did not get my point. And yes you will be further ahead nevertheless but with the daily kills progress etc. someone with less time on their hands can still make progress effectively. And the people who have 1-3 hours per day to spend are the majority of players.
If you don’t like this then I suggest you play Diablo 3 instead.
We should talk again once you have a full time job and a family, maybe then you understand that those 20 h spent farming for one item or so is not an option anymore. And the time spent should still give you the sense of progress and it does.
Seriously…….
By this logic Anet should just limit every customer’s play time to say…. oh I dont know, 3 hours. After playing 3 hours during a 24hr period you get booted from the game and cant log back in for 24hrs. You know, just so that people with different priorities or personal situations have a level playing field and can compete with people that have more free time.
Just for the record, I dont believe that anyone here told someone else who bought guild wars 2, to go have kids, or take that higher paying job with more work hours, or to hit up the club or what ever else it is that people with your mentality do with your time. If your personal situation is such that your play time is so limited that you would feel justified that other player’s efforts should be hindered to create a level playing field for your sake…… you probably shouldn’t be playing an MMO or any game for that matter unless its single player with a save function. Pls go get bent.
Conclusion: I can understand Anet is attempting to get a handle on the Bots/exploits/RMT, however that should not come at the expense of legitimate players. Throttling loot drops is wrong…… just wrong. Effort should equal the reward, sadly this is not the case anymore due to throttling, and done so without notice or announcement of such mechanics.
Thanks Karast and Daari.
@Daari, my suggestion for Spark is to take up weapon smith if you havent maxed it already, and craft the exotics to stick into the forge. I dont know about your TP but bones are really cheap, ectos are coming down in price and rest is fairly easy to gather yourself. Or atleast that was my game plan.
Edge your experiences seem to be vastly different from mine and the 200+ folks posting here ( http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/zjxcn/is_the_anti_bot_protection_in_gw2_going_too_far/ )
Are you playing on a lvl 80 toon? Not to give up your farm spots, but what maps are you playing in? How often are you in a given area killing the same mobs? Are you killing said mobs with any kind of speed?
I just keep farming because there is no anti-farm script from what I’ve been able to tell.
There is a script that reduces XP and Karma gained from events if you keep doing the same one over and over in a short time frame.
The original poster is talking about loot drops drying up, not XP and Karma.
Khaldar is correct in his statement, and I did mention only being able to participate in 2-3 DEs (different or same) before getting slapped in face by Anet script for legitimately playing their game.
I just keep farming because there is no anti-farm script from what I’ve been able to tell.
There is a script that reduces XP and Karma gained from events if you keep doing the same one over and over in a short time frame.
Dont know if you have noticed it or not but it also gets activated if you kill the same mob type repeatedly (sigh why is there only one mob type in Orr….)
Seems I can only get 2-3 events done in Cursed shore or 30 mins of Troll grinding in FrostGorge before the Anti-Farm script brings all my loot drops to a near complete halt for the next 30-60 mins. Instead of just spinning my wheels when the loot stops I have just run around the map mining and herbing, or do jumping puzzles.
So what do people do to pass the time while the loot brick wall is up?
Good to know Daari. The only question now is, where do the cores drop?
Can you confirm that you have bought the pattern for 10g to craft Vial of Liquid Flame and the pattern says that it requires 100 of both lodestones? All the info I have seen on Incinerator on the web indicate only 5 of each being needed.