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It’s Manvil Rock!
Yeah a little before that. I was having fun messing around on my baby engi before you got on.
The afro makes that engie.
Perhaps teaching your server how to play would be a greater benefit to everyone instead of showing us you have a 2nd account somewhere… or are you shunned by the WvW community there?
what would you know about our server or what i or anyone else does on it?
What I know is that you are refusing to give us a fight when you clearly have the numbers. That makes it pretty obvious that no one went to AR to help them get better.
We don’t have the numbers. That’s been fairly obvious this week. Hell, you spawn camp us with outnumbering forces. As you’ll know by seeing a crazy human engineer General with the [KAOS] tag, I’ll gladly run into a zerg to stomp someone even if I die in the process (Elixir S ftw, I generally get the stomp off). However, our WvW core is <20 people, and the rest don’t have the stamina for a protracted or outnumbered match. I’m sorry you’re not getting the fights you want, but this is due to the stomping our militia has gotten all week. They just don’t show up anymore.
That’s not true. Yesterday at roughly 7pm server, 10pm eastern, you had at least 45 or so in EBG and couldnt counter a group of 27. Thanks for the full bags though, I guess. But seriously, how could you guys even lose? Someone isn’t doing their job, especially if some of you are from a so-called “better” server. I’ve yet to see us outplayed every single time, which is what I expect from “better” than us, I mean, losing must be a pre-req. right? When we go 10 v 30, we lose, so that must be your definition of better… numbers.
Are referring to when we had around 35ish players out there(and I’m being generous considering mesmer clones and pets show up as green dots on radar)? Your math may be slightly off with the 27 however…yes I take screen shots on occasion.
Oh, it was a spawncamp incident, militia also. That’s harsh.
This must have been right before I got home and joined party Dov.
Perhaps teaching your server how to play would be a greater benefit to everyone instead of showing us you have a 2nd account somewhere… or are you shunned by the WvW community there?
what would you know about our server or what i or anyone else does on it?
What I know is that you are refusing to give us a fight when you clearly have the numbers. That makes it pretty obvious that no one went to AR to help them get better.
We don’t have the numbers. That’s been fairly obvious this week. Hell, you spawn camp us with outnumbering forces. As you’ll know by seeing a crazy human engineer General with the [KAOS] tag, I’ll gladly run into a zerg to stomp someone even if I die in the process (Elixir S ftw, I generally get the stomp off). However, our WvW core is <20 people, and the rest don’t have the stamina for a protracted or outnumbered match. I’m sorry you’re not getting the fights you want, but this is due to the stomping our militia has gotten all week. They just don’t show up anymore.
That’s not true. Yesterday at roughly 7pm server, 10pm eastern, you had at least 45 or so in EBG and couldnt counter a group of 27. Thanks for the full bags though, I guess. But seriously, how could you guys even lose? Someone isn’t doing their job, especially if some of you are from a so-called “better” server. I’ve yet to see us outplayed every single time, which is what I expect from “better” than us, I mean, losing must be a pre-req. right? When we go 10 v 30, we lose, so that must be your definition of better… numbers.
We never said we were better. We’re in last place. However, I am sorry to hear that one, we had such a large group and I wasn’t there, and two, that they lost. This was open field combat I presume? No towers, no siege? If so, then we will try to do better at training. We have some new commanders too learning the ropes, and to learn you must lose, so hopefully we learn!
Therefore, I appreciate the opportunity that SF is giving us by bringing obviously skilled groups against us. If we constantly fought while outnumbering and outskilling opponents we wouldn’t learn. I assure you that in the future we will do our best to improve.
Perhaps teaching your server how to play would be a greater benefit to everyone instead of showing us you have a 2nd account somewhere… or are you shunned by the WvW community there?
what would you know about our server or what i or anyone else does on it?
What I know is that you are refusing to give us a fight when you clearly have the numbers. That makes it pretty obvious that no one went to AR to help them get better.
We don’t have the numbers. That’s been fairly obvious this week. Hell, you spawn camp us with outnumbering forces. As you’ll know by seeing a crazy human engineer General with the [KAOS] tag, I’ll gladly run into a zerg to stomp someone even if I die in the process (Elixir S ftw, I generally get the stomp off). However, our WvW core is <20 people, and the rest don’t have the stamina for a protracted or outnumbered match. I’m sorry you’re not getting the fights you want, but this is due to the stomping our militia has gotten all week. They just don’t show up anymore.
EDIT: We have done well in training our militia the best we can. We even climbed out of last place for a week! However, it is hard, since we get stomped on a regular basis due to population differences. Most of them leave for greener pastures, perhaps even to you. We have a dedicated WvW training crew, we have a website, VoiP, and all the tools. However, we lack the people. It is frustrating, but we will never give up.
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Come to fight night tonight at SF BL 8:00 EST!
I will stomp the dirty SF players if kaineng has bloodlustI wish I could go but I work at that time.
I’m sure it will last longer, and tell your friends to go
I’ll mention it. However, I don’t get home from work until 11pm EST, do if you’re still going I’ll swing by.
Don’t bother, we’ll organize a group to police that to make sure it doesn’t take place in any BL. If you guys wont give us a fight, you wont have fun either.
Fair enough, you guys have been very good at ruining the fun so far, why stop now?
Come to fight night tonight at SF BL 8:00 EST!
I will stomp the dirty SF players if kaineng has bloodlustI wish I could go but I work at that time.
I’m sure it will last longer, and tell your friends to go
I’ll mention it. However, I don’t get home from work until 11pm EST, do if you’re still going I’ll swing by.
Welcome to the AR crew that just transferred to SF.
We’ll get you set up later tonight before our usual WvW run starts!
Oh? Who did you get? I hope they have fun at their new home. It’s so expensive to transfer.
Come to fight night tonight at SF BL 8:00 EST!
I will stomp the dirty SF players if kaineng has bloodlust
I wish I could go but I work at that time.
Let me tell you a story of a waterpark I have built and how you have helped me.
Years ago I, with the help of two business partners began work on an amazing water park. There were some oversights that happened during the construction, cuz you know kitten happens. Near the end of construction my two partners came up to me and asked
“Where are we gonna get the water to fill this park?”.I thought “Oh my gawd I never thought about where the water would come from”.
So I told them I would indeed find a way like always. I told them like everything else, the internet will always have the answer. So fast forward to today, my extensive search for a source of water has lead me to the vast amount of tears you and others keep splashing on threads such as these. With advances in todays technology i will be able to extract the seemingly infinite amount of tears and use it to power my waterpark.
Thanks again buds, your friend Clinton.
Tl;Dr Your tears power me.
I have a question. I know betting stomped sucks, and I know being the stomper can be fun. Also, rubbing it in can be fun for some people. However, do you make posts like this when you aren’t the team on top? It’s just bad form.
I actually have a question for you. Are you actively ignoring all the inflammatory/trolling/insulting posts your servermates and KN is making towards us?
If you will take the time to reread this thread, or even just this page you will see i dont start making posts like i did unless provoked. So maybe you should direct your attention to the other posters from your server first, thanks.
Why respond in kind? I have not trolled, are you are doing is feeding those who do. You sink to their level and reflect badly upon your server by doing so. Keep the people trolling as a minority. Show others that the general population is above such behaviour.
So you should be directing your attention to those on your server that are in your own words " reflect badly upon your server". You have individuals that are confused in this thread putting down bronze servers while playing on bronze servers. I dont represent my server, I represent me on these forums. I dont think there is a single person on SF outside of my legion of fans that think I represent SF in any capacity.
Yes I know how it feels to be stomped in match ups, its part of the reason why we are stuck being Blue for 6 out of the 7 weeks of these leagues. .
If you represent yourself then I feel sorry for you that you feel you need to troll like that. We are last place, I know, we speak from experience about bronze life. We do not say we are better. However, at least we don’t troll. If you feel the need to, the best thing to do is not post at all. An outside observer you see this thread and think all 3 servers were full of trash talkers. It’s sad that this is our public face. Lets just play the game as designed.
Let me tell you a story of a waterpark I have built and how you have helped me.
Years ago I, with the help of two business partners began work on an amazing water park. There were some oversights that happened during the construction, cuz you know kitten happens. Near the end of construction my two partners came up to me and asked
“Where are we gonna get the water to fill this park?”.I thought “Oh my gawd I never thought about where the water would come from”.
So I told them I would indeed find a way like always. I told them like everything else, the internet will always have the answer. So fast forward to today, my extensive search for a source of water has lead me to the vast amount of tears you and others keep splashing on threads such as these. With advances in todays technology i will be able to extract the seemingly infinite amount of tears and use it to power my waterpark.
Thanks again buds, your friend Clinton.
Tl;Dr Your tears power me.
I have a question. I know betting stomped sucks, and I know being the stomper can be fun. Also, rubbing it in can be fun for some people. However, do you make posts like this when you aren’t the team on top? It’s just bad form.
I actually have a question for you. Are you actively ignoring all the inflammatory/trolling/insulting posts your servermates and KN is making towards us?
If you will take the time to reread this thread, or even just this page you will see i dont start making posts like i did unless provoked. So maybe you should direct your attention to the other posters from your server first, thanks.
Why respond in kind? I have not trolled, are you are doing is feeding those who do. You sink to their level and reflect badly upon your server by doing so. Keep the people trolling as a minority. Show others that the general population is above such behaviour.
EDIT: Remember, this is a game. Lets all have fun no matter the WvW situation!
It took a well organized force to rip the fully fortified Hills from GOM BL last night. BRL RED ZERG COC and all who followed and participated. Well done. Our majority force worked hard to recover DR BL Garrison and GOM had to choose. Hold garrison or loose hills. At the end of the night they had lost both and I would wager everyone enjoyed the good fights. Well done Dark Jean on your persistence in recovering DR BL garrison. GOM well fought. AR? did you play last night?
Both servers use us for karma trains, since we are the least powerful of the three. Therefore, 99% of our time is spent trying to take stuff back or defend from 10:1 odds. Just one look at the stats shows where the main fighting has been, and that’s on AR’s turf.
Warriors use them like rifles. What we need is more skins that look like shotguns!
I guess we should take it as a compliment that both servers gang up on us.
I run perplexity runes on my engie but out of 8 level 80 toons he is essentially my only condition toon (still working on my necro’s build). As an engie he pumps out over 2,200 watts of condition damage. It works well on those ET/AR zergs and dropping a kit on a flame ram while defending a tower works wonders. I can just hear them screaming “I’m melting….I’m melting!” Music to my ears. It helped when I picked up that Ascended Dire pistol a couple of nights back. Just need one more for the pair so if either ET or AR would oblige?
AR zerg? Wow, that’s mythical! I hope to see one someday.
no GoM or AR anywhere. no roamers or anything, what the actual F?
When you get rolled by 30+ when you have a group of 1-3 it becomes not fun and we find something else to do. In addition, spawn camping us with more than 5x our number does not induce more people to come WvW. You literally zerged your opponents away, so your complaints are your own servers doing. Sorry.
To be fair, I have seen this from every server in the match up, and every match up I have ever been in. I have seen 30+ zergs from every server here, though I would say that DH has more presence and coverage (an opinion derived from the score).
I have seen this happen against every server and from every server. And as someone who frequently solo roams, I tend to be outnumbered most of the time.
Its just wvw, I really dont think it is specific to any server. I am still finding plenty of solo roamers, but most from AR tend to be opportunistic in a negative fashion. I like a good fight, where everyone knows whats going on before it happens. I cant tell you the number of times I have downed an AR player and didnt stomp them (I consider it respectful) only to have them and some buddies immediately hunt me down.
Same goes for every server I have ever played against. If I have a good fight, I just wont stomp/stake my opponent. To most, I guess that is a green light to gang up and spam /laugh.
Dems da breaks. Its just how it goes in a large and competitive social environment. I dont think you can blame it on any server, but in the system which we all reside.
Perhaps the system is to blame. However, I have been playing GW2 for about 4 months now, and I can’t remember a time where AR had a zerg or numbers advantage. (EDIT: I chose the server randomly, I regret not doing research as I bought this game for the WvW combat system). This must predate me. All I know is, my playstyle of small group play is currently impossible in this matchup environment because the one time I have been able to significantly play WvW, AR has been outmanned everywhere, the whole map was green, and anytime I tried to do anything, including taking a camp, I was hit by more than 20.
I know it happens, and you guys are a much higher tier. It is also something we are going to have to get used to when leagues come. Perhaps I will just have to find something else to do during these times. I’ll play it by ear.
Meh. Kind of wish this week was over already. No slight against HoD, but this match up – as unbalanced as it seems – is rapidly approaching the “no fun” limits for AR and GoM. At this point, logging in and flipping camps and spanking HoD’s small roaming groups is the only entertainment we have left to us – in the face of the ever hungering HoD zergballofdeathanddoom. We get it. HoD has superior numbers and can take most anything they want on any map. I think we can safely declare HoD the winner for the week. No bad feelings, and no smack talk.
Honestly, if I see an AR person, which I haven’t yet, I’ll make sure to wave and cheer as I continue on past them looking for another HoD adversary to beat up. We probably won’t win ppt this week…so, as AR and GoM, let’s just focus on murdering as many as we possibly can – a new game called body count! And, of course I mean murder with love…and cookies…and flowers…and long walks on the beach, because we abhore violence here at GoM.
Rofl, I think I’ve only seen a couple of AR here and there maybe… two or three times in this entire matchup. Everything else I’ve seen was HoD zergballs, but there’s been some roamers too, which in fighting them probably was the more enjoyable part of this matchup. Defending the BLs against the holy zergballofdoom with like 10 to 50 odds almost constantly isnt fun.
We have to really be careful. I run in a group of 3-5, and we are getting used to fighting very outnumbered. However, as a member of AR, we kind of have to ignore the PPT and just fight for what fun we can have. Of which I am having a lot. Also, for reference, that human female with the white hair in that picture is a hammer wielding Guardian, not a Warrior.
It’s not even about winning anymore, or even being competitive, it’s just about having fun now. Farm some mats, fight some roamers, take some camps. Either way I have enjoyed it more than the LS
True, I’m still having fun. However, I want more people to have fun. Right now, the main problem is that most of the new people see the Outnumbered buff and bail. We just need to get them to understand Outnumbered = NO REPAIR BILLS CHARGE!
No one is crying about numbers or PvDoor, don’t understand why you think it’s e-tears, you have more people in WvW, enjoy it. I’m just here to kill folks and have fun. It’s nice not having to stress about PPT, or “winning” whatever that means in WvW. If your server is dominating the battlefield though, it’s got to be awfully dull when you can’t get any karma or WxP or anything, that’s the biggest positive on AR, it’s a constant flow of WxP, karma, and XP. There is always something to do when I log on.
I agree. I’ll forge out there solo to take some camps, yaks, sentries, and have general fun! I’m still having a blast. I just want to see if I can make a difference getting AR to be a true contender again.
There are two possible outcomes to being an SF player:
1. Have 2 servers constantly e-tear about “SF’s superior numbers”
2. Have SF complain about people that cap things whilst North America is sleeping or at work.
Sidebar: I popped my head in for a second on this thread to see how AR was doing, and I still read the constant whining/finger-pointing/insults/accusations, etc…
And the irony when people claim that “it is not AR that is making people leave, its those people’s problem”
#irony
It is not my purpose to degrade any server. I specifically noted the fact that those people who do so are a minority.
However, I am open to any advice from those who have experienced it before how to raise morale in the situation AR is currently in. I want to help my server rebound, and by doing so, give all three members of the WvW matchup a good fight. I can’t imagine having a enemy as small as AR is any fun for you guys either.
Maybe. I was worried that an area damage reduction with no negative effect on the guardian would be a bit too over the top. Also, with multiple guardians area effect damage reduction could get insane. By making it single target I was hoping to limit the advantage of stacking. I’m not a dev though.
EDIT: Perhaps changing the skill to work like Merciful Intervention would work? That would keep it single target and would require more timing to make it work?
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