Guild Wars 2

This list is riddled with inaccuracies

Found this earlier. Don’t think it was possible to get to before gliders

Last night I d/ced from a pvp game for the first time in well over a month. It resulted in a 16 minute time ouand now the next time it happens it will be 45 minutes. Will it ever go back down?

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

maybe celestial could be revised a bit?
as mentioned by Caine.

Celestial (current)
+560 Power
+560 Precision
+560 Toughness
+560 Vitality

+560 Ferocity
+560 Healing Power
+560 Condition Damage
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say if 10% boon & condition duration
we remove 30 from each, we get 30 × 70=210 surplus, say we buff it to 300 surplus, then give 150 (10%) to both concentration and expertise

Celestial (+10%)
+530 Power
+530 Precision
+530 Toughness
+530 Vitality

+530 Ferocity
+530 Healing Power
+530 Condition Damage

+150 concentration (10% boon duration)
+150 expertise (10% condition duration)

a small shave (-30) to overall stats, and a 10% increase in both boon duration and condition duration)

or introduce new celestial amulet?

maybe call it

Astral Amulet
+530 Power
+530 Precision
+530 Toughness
+530 Vitality

+530 Ferocity
+530 Healing Power
+530 Condition Damage

+150 concentration
+150 expertise

this is such a stupid idea and such an obvious buff to celestial amulet. Anet just might hire you

I actually think this is an excellent idea. It’s very likely that that will be the lineup for the weeks coming

Celestial still way over represented. Will this ever change?

+1 I would also add that the thief elite stomp has an unintended behavior where if it lands the third hit right as the target goes into the down state it just says “invulnerable” and does not finish the player and puts the skill on full cool down. example: enemy is at 25% health first 2 hits of elite take it to 2% health, random skill kills target, 3rd hit of elite hits a millisecond later and does nothing

Well the instant cast trap being blockable is the problem…

They already have 2 forms of unlockable cc in f1 and bow 3. Could we please just make the traps not interrupt blocks?

yeah cause having 2 minstrel druids just afking on 2 points and winning is SO fun

glaph i’ve read you say this everywhere and you’re so wrong it’s unreal. the 5.5k health lets them sustain the burst that other wise would have 1 shot them. THEN the sustain kicks in. sure it would still be very tanky on a clerics, no one is arguing that

That’s your opinion cause you’re a stupid kitten warrior

if you think quickness affecting movement speed did anything but help warrior you are very wrong. just because you’re bad and push rush to run away and you don’t realize you have quickness and wait till it’s gone to use it doesn’t mean everyone everywhere should be punished for it. Whirlwind attack got a HUGE nerf because of this

Why would quickness and slow not affect how fast a movement animation went? This change hurt warriors so hard, and was very unnecessary

Chill (and maybe cripple) greatly reduce the range your eviscerate goes. I think this is one of the few moment skills to still do this

Robert Gee.9246:

Jzaku.9765:

I feel that you’ve missed the point a little, it’s ok for some mechanics to have both a cost and cooldown, but this is the defining mechanic of the specialization.

The fact that its the defining mechanic of the specialization didn’t really have any bearing on the decision to make this skill have the costs it does. The adrenaline cost is there to require a build up and the recharge is there to provide some downtime.

Mooncow.6847:

Second, can a dev please expand on gun flame? Can you elaborate on the absolute best case scenario? If everything goes right what is the maximum targets I can hit?

The explosion hits 5 targets. If you don’t have the piercing trait you get 5 maximum targets. If you do have the trait it will hit 5 targets from the initial explosion plus 4 more from the piercing bullet.

Awesome! I’m so glad to hear this, thought it could only hit 5 people even with piercing. Thank you for the info and for making it still able to hit lots of targets. Thought it had been nerfed to the ground

First, lots of warriors don’t take cleansing ire, the adrenaline build up is made up for with adrenaline on weapon swap. FH is much more needed than that trait.

Second, can a dev please expand on gun flame? Can you elaborate on the absolute best case scenario? If everything goes right what is the maximum targets I can hit?

Is there a stipulation for being able to talk?

I 100% agree with this post. This was my first thought on the matter too

this thread is stupid. i particularly thought Impact’s post was dumb, especially “3. Warrior may finally take its place as a viable bruiser instead of being supporty as it is now.” because hambow was soooo long ago

Celtus.8456:

I think it has now been 4 months and 25 days since this change was put in. Little sign of dev compromise, despite much of the PvP community speaking out against this (especially seen in PvP streams now being much less entertaining for the viewer and the streamer). So frustrating.

Edit for Tarcis:

One image from February 3rd, queue popped at 20 minutes and the game was 4v5.

Second image from December 7th, 40 mins and 2 seconds. I can’t remember if the queue popped or if I just gave up.

These are older screenshots but they still support the point here. And this is all part of the reason I become more and more bitter to this game’s pvp and developers (my apologies to anyone I have been negative to).

I like the average queue time of 17 minutes on that second picture

the amount of work put into this is rather impressive. but i don’t think there is too much of a correlation. in fact two of the biggest win margins were on two of the closest matched rank points. and two of the closer games (500-300s) were some of the larger margins. to have that many outliers on so small a sample would make me think something is incorrect. also personal experience would make me think no too

Acandis.3250:

If I was PvP game director, I probably would know how to conjugate.

lmao

worst part of the game right now if you ask me. please change Anet

ArrDee.2573:

You guys are still talking about silly maths! Crazy guys! Just crazy! This can be resolved so easily! Either it’s bugged and who cares because it’s strong enough as is! Anet has a huge list of bugs that turn into features! Or it’s not bugged in which case why the frickfrack are you guys typing in this thread!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

+1

Exedore.6320:

For all the people that don’t want to believe this, here’s a simple scientific setup:

Hypothesis: Sigil of Air has a 5sec ICD

Test Setup: Engineer with as high a crit chance as possible (rampager or assassin amulet, 6 into precision line, precision runes). Equip Sigil of Air and flamethrower. Auto-attack indestructible dummy (~4 attacks/second and you can let it keep doing).

If Sigil of Air procs once within less than 5 seconds, the hypothesis is disproven. Let’s say we have a 50% crit chance and a 50% proc rate. On average, one of those 4 attacks within a second should proc the sigil if it’s off ICD. Let it go for 10-15 minutes and see if the interval between any proc was less than 5 seconds.

It’s not rocket surgery.

thank the lord. why did I have to wait so long to see someone say this? this was literally my first thought on the matter

Grouch,
I literally came in my pants when I read this. Thank you

you are not supposed to be able to rally off of guards, and you can’t. unless you are a warrior and you vengeance and kill a guard, you have a chance to rally off them. This is by no means game breaking but it should be fixed and I imagine it wouldn’t be too hard to do so

Ehecatl.9172:

Mooncow.6847:

iKeostuKen.2738:

Mooncow.6847:

Many of you are confusing ineffective builds with hard builds, staff zerker ele is exceptionally easy, do not think otherwise simply because it dies fast. Also true of many other builds

How is it exceptionally easy?

because as a zerker staff ele your damage comes from a few set of skill (lava font, metor shower, ice spike, earth 2) and all it requires is you putting your mouse on the opponent and being as far away as possible. Not much more to it than that

Is that all you do as a zerker staff ele? Because if so you’re vastly under-utilizing your skills.

Rotation is important as you can be providing might to your team while dishing out that damage. Another huge part of the playstyle is AoE crowd control with Frozen Ground and Static Field to trap enemies in the kill zone and mess up their rotations with chill. Even Unsteady Ground can be useful for stacking cripple if you drop it in the center of the point as the enemies will have to run across it multiple times if they want to avoid leaving the point and remaining mobile. Then there’s tactical placement of your water fields to help deal with enemy condition pressure on your allies and letting your allies blast said water fields for more heals.

This is all ignoring when the enemy eventually notices you. At that point the skill requirement exponentially increases. You have to vastly out play your opponent to win a 1v1, and you have to be very good at timing your cantrips, dodges, crowd controls, and Burning Retreat to survive pressure long enough for your team to peel.

Aside from the raw mechanical requirements you also have to be really good at placement and map rotation to be effective. Where you are when you begin casting is extremely important, as well as what fights you choose to jump in on.

Ok well clearly you haven’t played the game in a year, thinking unsteady ground still cripples. And yes I’ve played it recently, and no this build is not about stacking might and supporting allies, it’s about aoe damage on point

This thread is horribly titled

someone.7485:

GoogleBrandon.5073:

someone.7485:

Seriously people! Actually communicate before a match.

This is like saying “Hey, if you ready up, the match will start quicker” – which might be desirable, but how many times does it happen?

In the time I have been playing, the odds that you got people communicating at the start, telling roles and builds can be count on one hand…
Sad? Maybe, but it is the truth…

Also, as much as I like try to stay unbiased on the forums, the numerous amounts of “Daily Engineer” and the obvious growing popularity of the build are starting to get to me more and more…

The poor communication is my point. I use turret engi to get peoples attention because turret engi thrives on a lack of communication. It seems like most people are just reading the thread title and are actually missing my point. I find you stand a better chance of winning if everyone communicates before the game starts. It is difficult to communicate during the game, but you can use the mini-map for some fast communication.

You use turret engi because you want to win. Don’t pretend otherwise

someone.7485:

jportell.2197:

someone.7485:

Good players that communicate still beat multiple turret engis every time. It is about communication and proper rations.

http://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2/b/647594592

Watch the first match. Watch how often apex was chasing their tails. This is APeX Prime a team that won the very first ToL and placed 2nd in the second ToL. Are you gonna tell me that this team HMan, Morf, Happy Kid, Night, and Anastarcis are bad? Are you seriously going to try and tell me that those players are so bad because they lost to that comp. You honestly believe this spec isn’t broken one bit?

At least neither turret engi are running the metabuild. They made sure to reduce that pesky mobility issue. But, they only had 2 turret engis and still lost. A significant part of pvp is communication and rotations. You can do rather well with sub par builds if you are really good at communicating and rotations. In the end APEX just out rotated them, which is what always happens to turret engis against good players. My main point that the lack of communication is the issue in pvp still stands.

Of course there is a lack of communication, we’re not on come. If you think typing out instructions is the answer than you’re a kitten fool. The fact remains however that two turret engis took a game off APEX prime, probably the second best team on NA and a team that I guarantee you is communicating well. And the other two games were very close also

iKeostuKen.2738:

Mooncow.6847:

Many of you are confusing ineffective builds with hard builds, staff zerker ele is exceptionally easy, do not think otherwise simply because it dies fast. Also true of many other builds

How is it exceptionally easy?

because as a zerker staff ele your damage comes from a few set of skill (lava font, metor shower, ice spike, earth 2) and all it requires is you putting your mouse on the opponent and being as far away as possible. Not much more to it than that

Many of you are confusing ineffective builds with hard builds, staff zerker ele is exceptionally easy, do not think otherwise simply because it dies fast. Also true of many other builds

you can shoot them yes, but aoe dmg is very difficult to land on them and melee is impossible

If you’re set on not nerfing turret engis as literally everyone in this game wants, then could you please at least fix them so they can’t place the turret in mid air and make it all but invulnerable? I know this is not working as intended. Please fix this

shout-outs to me for creating KPD

This is the biggest problem with pvp right now IMO and I know I’m not alone on this. The only thing you can do while queuing is to do something else on your computer. Furthermore if you have to pee or get a bite to eat there’s a good chance you could miss the que that you have been waiting 10 minutes for!

Acandis.3250:

I guess really, the biggest issue is that there’s nothing to play for but hordes of PvE chests that don’t even stack.

This cannot be stressed enough. It would be such a simple solution to make these able to stack. Just look at wvw champion loot chests

full dire is so much better and cheaper

DanzelOPP.5068:

Salvage kits are free on the rewards vendor in the mists.

wow, I wish I’d noticed this so long ago

Anyone who knows about kaineng obviously knows who I am, the incredible Mooncow. I left this server for one simple reason wvw isnt fun there anymore. Out would take 10 + minutes to find any kind of a decent fight or in the case of borderlands any fight at all. I had huge server pride too having been on kaineng wvw since the day the game came out, but when it came down to it server pride didn’t mean anything if I wasn’t getting to enjoy wvw especially with, and I think this is what really put me over the line, the deleting of the wvw match up forum. What is the point of server pride if I can’t talk kitten and make fun of how bad other servers are? So I left. And it’s great.
TLDR: the hero of Kaineng is gone because it wasn’t fun.

edited because I guess I was being mean to Kaineng

Zero.1468:

<3 all the AR zergilings. I think I recall kiting 8 bronzies in a circle out SW camp for a good 3 minutes earlier today.

Next time kill them, or it’s Robin status for you

SniffyCube.6107:

I should probably stop feeding the trolls now. Make sure you wave if you see me…I’m the big norn everyone is apparently “aiming for.”

You know nothing about being the big norn everyone is aiming for

Detharos.3157:

Oh, the bitter sweet irony…

personally I prefer quick repeated /cry over /laugh

that Yarr ele is awful

YOU DON’T MESS WITH YARR IN OS YO

Devon.9061:

~Devon aka The Banned One

Boy you’re really proud of breaking the rules aren’t you?
That’s so tight!!!!

Ynot.8397:

So can someone explain why blackwater is so bad? IDK why anyone cares…

Because how dare someone use a strong build! It means you’re a bad player

6-7 people stacking might to fight 3…

Don’t worry MU I and KPD will be back tomorrow